Thread 518973173

Norway has just ordered 6 Type 212CD submarines from Germany and 5 or 6 Type 26 anti sub frigates from the UK.

(Also 5 P8-Poseidon with torpedoes)

The things in pic will be a COMPLETE joke for us.

Nice.

>>518973173 (OP)
For what ?

>>518973307
For ULTIMATE DEFENSE

NO ONE WILL FUG WITH NORWAY EVER AGAIN


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IyngX5mojc

AND EVERYONE IN THE WORLD WILL KNOW THAT NORWAY IS A POWERFUL NATION

>>518973173 (OP)
Are they kraut bootlegs of our subs or their own designs? They've sank a lot of money and effort into cloning our uboats.

>>518974647
I respect the Swedes. But the Germans knows how to build subs without stealing.

>>518973173 (OP)
>The things in pic will be a COMPLETE joke for us.
were you asleep these past few weeks?

>In the last week of August, NATO forces in Norway went into a huddle, as the US Navy’s biggest aircraft carrier was exposed and vulnerable. Within hours, the US Navy, the Royal Air Force (RAF), and the Royal Norwegian Air Force (RNoAF) launched one of the largest submarine hunts off the coast of Norway, apparently the most extensive hunt since the end of the Cold War.

>Their target, according to the Barents Observer, was one of the three Russian Yasen-class nuclear-powered submarines, one of Russia’s most advanced submarines, which was operating dangerously close to the US Navy’s largest aircraft carrier, the 100,000-ton nuclear-powered USS Gerald R. Ford.

>According to multiple media reports, to hunt down the Russian submarine, the RAF launched least eight P-8A Poseidon flights from its Lossiemouth air base in Scotland, the RNoAF carried out sorties from its Evenes Air Base near Narvik within the Arctic Circle, and the US Navy also launched patrols from Iceland, while two additional anti-submarine warfare (ASW) P-8 aircraft were redeployed from Sicily, Italy.

>Despite this extensive mobilization of resources, NATO forces were unable to locate the Russian submarine, according to The National Interest.

>>518975108
Trust me. Russian submarines are obsolete. We have the entire seabed covered in sensors and we will have the ABSOLUTE best attack submarines in the world (without contest).

>>518975252
>We have the entire seabed covered in sensors
Fart and we will know.

>>518975252
>Trust me
why? you are some clueless shitposter that clearly knows nothing?
>Russian submarines are obsolete.
then why Norway and USA couldnt detect it? post some copes.

but let me answer it for you: its simple, USA and Norway lost the technology race and their technology is not fit enough to find the newest generation of Russian Submarines.

>>518975330
>cant even detect a 13000 ton submarine
but please feel free to spend more of your money in Germany.
we have lots of crap to sell to you.

>>518975431
The new Type 212CD submarines are undetectable even for the US navy (or even for the massive Norwegian fishing fleet).
Even 1 of these subs could sink the ENTIRE russian northern fleet (or a US carrier fleet).

Norwegian NASAMS destroyed by Russian Iskander-M ballistic missile (with missile cook-off)

>>518975496
Russia is obsolete. Either Russia joins with the west or it over for good for Russia.

China is the danger. If Russia allies with China then Russia will DIE. Wake up.

>>518975108
>Operated dangerously close
>Couldn't locate it
So they knew it was dangerously close.. but didnt know where

Is this russian submarine in the room with us right now?

>>518975592
>The new
you are buying foreign monkey model designs, they arent even nuclear powered lmao.

>>518975822
>, they arent even nuclear powered lmao
Luckily. Nuclear subs are noisy as FUG

>>518975708
>bunch of copes
>NATO is still a papertiger that doesnt dare to do shit
okay

>>518975799
gotta ask the US navy bro
maybe the DEI mutt went full schizo in the sonar room.
russians are laughing their asses off anyway.

>>518975887
so noisy they drive around in your waters and you cant even find them despite massive help from the mutts lmao

>>518975708
The spirit of Olaf Tryggvason lives on.

>>518975905
>NATO is still a papertiger that doesnt dare to do shit
Let's continue to hope so. OR ELSE (we don't want to know)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vg0Tmydj29M

>>518973173 (OP)
why bother when a couple of drones with nukes can take out all your cities?

>>518976018
But I would say that NATO is about 20 times as strong as Russia. It would be a cakewalk.

>>518973173 (OP)
212 is a coastal sub, that's why it has X shaped rudders, so it can seat on seabed; Norway doesn't strike me a country with much if any shallow seabed...

>>518976162
more like NATO is 20x weaker than Russia.
and clearly Putin and his Generals are not impressed, otherwise they wouldnt bother and would have already surrendered.

>>518976215
The 212CD can be underwater without surfacing for almost 2 months. It's a sub for everything you could imagine..

>>518975252
>Le seabed sensoors, saars
Funny, so has Russia... In fact, they're upgrading their network.

>>518976162
>NATO is about 20 times as strong as Russia
>32 countries are stronger than 1
nafo coping is strong. lets chekc the scales when the chinks, the muslim streetshitters, iran, and the norks join in

>>518973173 (OP)
Erm thanks for the money and expanding our fleet? It’ll save us patrolling around the Baltic’s I guess.

>>518976376
You mean the Channel...
But we will always help.

>>518976323
>cant even launch hypersonic missiles
garbage from yesteryear.

>>518976323
Retard, we have the 214, disguised as 209 and it's 3 months, so ..
212 was literally specifically made for the needs of germ navy in shallow waters such as the baltic, which why that specific rudder config and non magnetic hull.
Now leave the chat and go hire some more femoid only crews...

>>518976542
...if 'ghosts' are from yesterday

>>518976688
212CD is a cooperation between Germany and Norway. It's much bigger than the regular 212

>>518975799
I honestly embrace the retard life but I thought modern torpedoes had a range on them of like 50-100km these days excluding the meme Poseidon nuclear powered ones. That's a lot of ocean to cover.

>>518976802
>Muh bigger willy
Our 214 also has two pressure chambers, instead of the regular single; still just a 214....

>>518973173 (OP)
so this will stop putler now.. right?

>>518973173 (OP)
>>518974303
Will take at least 15 years to deliver. You dont build those things overnight.

>>518977183
The 212CD is a completely different BEAST. (sry to tell you)

>>518973173 (OP)
>The things in pic will be a COMPLETE joke for us.
this is no laughing matter sir

>>518977286
>Lmao
Thought COPEnhagen was in Denmark; guess I've been wrong the whole time....

>>518977270
We already have good shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87FhahQmWn4

>>518973173 (OP)
>P8-Poseidon
based norway. who exactly will you be using these on?

>>518976235
>more like NATO is 20x weaker than Russia.
lmao russia can’t even prevent order incursions from the ukies what are you smoking hans

>>518975108
>>518975799
Those Russian submarines aren’t called black hole for nothing.

>>518973173 (OP)
>Norway a COMPLETE joke

cut out the dross and left only the truth

>>518977434
>Thought COPEnhagen was in Denmark
It will be.

>>518977466
We just ordered a buckload of extra torpedoes for these.

>>518975799
They're trying so hard to drag Europe into the war with these false flag scare tactics.

>>518975887
In wartime your capacity as a submarine to stay hidden in the depth of the ocean for the longest time matters the most. Your diesel/hydrogen hybrids wouldn’t cut in a real hot war with Russia. They would sink all Nato navy and then wait for your brand new subs to come out for diesel/hydrogen fill ups.

>>518977504
>Adding delusion to cope
Hello, mr. Putin saar, please do not redeem Donemark, saars.

>>518975708
>Either Russia joins with the west or it over for good for Russia.
therein lies the issue, wtf is the 'west' today? because im sitting in ground zero of the 'west' and it's not great, good, okay, or even tolerable at this point
'western values' just means who won't say anything and fork over cuck tax to israel as they blackmail everyone's corrupt political class
fuck you and your globohomo fake west, kys

>>518977704
He was making a funny, newfaggot.

>>518977602
Make your own torpedos or be relayed in a wait list for a decade before delivery, thanks for the money. Ooowoo those evil Russians, more money thanks.

>>518973173 (OP)
>lets start a conflict
>oh no goyim, we need to print money for arms business
>totally forgets green carbon faggotry in this case

globalist and kikes need to be genocided

>>518977709
The 'west' can become like Norway. GREAT.
Or do you want to be like Russia instead?

>>518975108
a russian submarine floated past my window, followed by a drone

>>518977765
>I was in making le funning saar; please to not redeem, the funning making, dear saar.

>>518975708
only thing that will be obsolete is you traitor goyim that suck globalist cock

>>518977443
>good shit
>pushing 40

>>518977776
Yes, but we already have enough torpedoes to sink all the navies in the world.

>>518977943
They are still deadly as fug.

>>518977809
Eussr literally declared weapons as carbon neutral (not even joking).

>>518973173 (OP)
Are they building them in the sky?

>>518977837
>to be like Russia
Where can I sign up ? To be in the country where LGBTQ are treated as terrorists. The country with more nukes than the entire world, having the capability to destroy everyone if they fuck with you. The country with more resources in its ground than the entire US debt. The country where women are the most beautiful. The country where men still drink milk from the cow’s titties and no government would ban them for doing so.
Russians and Russia are the good guys. Western faggots are the cancer than needs to be nuked 10000 times over.

>>518977952
Torpedos are useless if you dont have enough carriers to launch them.

ah, yes.. Germany... the naval superpower!

Norway should annex sweden, western finland, and denmark... full support sarr

>>518978178
Germoids have good small subs, but they aren’t subs to destroy the bigger subs like the Russians have. More like subs to bully smaller nations that have no subs.

>>518976235
This is just weird football talk
>>518977472
>>518976162
Imagine if instead of submarines we spent the collective money of the human race sterilizing freemasons

>>518973173 (OP)

I remember an old episode of Grand Tour where the three stumbled into a Norwegian submarine base tunneled deep into a mountain. It was very impressive.

>>518978027
To their crews maybe.
At this age most subs are decommissioned.

>>518978027
>Deadly
Yeah, a fucking miracle no one died lol

>>518978267
it is pointless to discuss the state of german military post-ww2, their entire country has been purposely sabotaged and castrated into irrelevancy

i would actually say it's embarrassing to even see them as your peers in any field given their current (islamic) condition

>>518978324
Best post. Not only freemasons, the entire judeo-masonic bloc, not just sterilization but global hunt and public lynching, then feeding them to some cannibalist African tribe and live stream their punishment. Just make sure they are still alive when delivered to the african tribes to be devoured.

>>518978430
The Norwegian air force could defeat the Russian air force ALONE

>>518973307
northen mexicans guided by donald trump el floridiano.

>>518978267
You clearly have NO IDEA WHATSOEVER. The new German subs ARE THE BEST IN THE WORLD BY SEVERAL LIGHTYEARS. These are AIP subs that are hundreds of times more silent than any nuclear sub can ever become. They are the most dangerous weapon in the world by far.

>>518978523
With your 48 lemon F35 ? You realize Russian air force park is over 2000 planes all modernized and up to date ? Plus they would just Khinzal your air bases and Oreshnik your command center the fight would end in less than 2 hours.

>>518978756
Nuclear subs can stay longer hidden in the shadows, when you leave for refueling they would just destroy you.

>>518978523
>It's real in my head
And doubt with the backung of the almighty Norwegian Strategic Missiles Forces......

>>518978756
Norway is also developing torpedo launched versions of the NSM missile (and other missiles)

>>518978924
Russia already have those missile/torpedos deployed on their subs.

>>518978872
The actual difference is that a nuclear sub can do some 30 knots submerged, against barely 3 for a diesel-electric...

>>518975708
I'm inclined to agree but unless the West starts liquidating our shitskin inventory and stops being ruled over by inbred old money we're doomed in short order.

>>518978993
It only matters of Russian ships enters Norwegian waters.
Then... good luck living in hell.

>>518978894
>*No* doubt...

>>518978894
>And doubt with the backung of the almighty Norwegian Strategic Missiles Forces
LOL
You would never know.

>>518973173 (OP)
no way

Nonwhite enemies are crawling all over Scandinavia.
We can use these subs to launch rockets into their ghettos when push comes to shove.
We have already been invaded, politicans are ranting and raving about the russians to move away attention from this fact.

>>518979092
>Also spracht Addis, from Abeba.

>>518978809

The Russian airforce is about 600 fixed wing aircraft and around 250ish helicopters. And of those 600 fixed wing aircraft, most of them are rust buckets made back in the 80s. Russia only has a very small number of modern, advanced aircraft. They have 5 SU-57s for example.

>>518979173
Sorry about having to leave the Horn of Africa, for the coldness of the artic, my refugee seeker tard...

ENTER OUR WATERS
ENTER OUR AIR SPACE
I REALLY want to see what happens
I TRULY DO
I WANT IT TO HAPPEN

>>518979550
MAKE IT HAPPEN!!!!!!!!!!

>>518979550
>>518979628
>Hello sar, gibs me dat
Olle: Ehh okej just colonize our country we're not racist.

>>518973173 (OP)
Holy fuck I can't wait until we blockade Russia.

NIGGERS

>>518979927
You mean Kola-nize

>>518973173 (OP)
Money well spent. Your country will be full of immigrants soon. It has started already and you are helping.

>>518973173 (OP)
KEK I build better subs in from the depths. Fuck outta here with your gay dildo looking fag shit, you'll never have a navy

>>518979936
Thousands of shitskins are coming into the UK on a daily basis.
They're being stationed in 5 star hotels around the country where they learn martial arts.
The Russians are behind this, or what is your explanation for this sort of warfare?

>>518979936
You and the pajeets, muslims and niggers? You will do it? XD

>>518980233
We have ordered ships from you and THEY BETTER BE FUCKING PERFECT.

>>518980355
it's an insult you would even consider for 1 second that our seafaring vessels would be anything but

>>518980250
>Based "Russians"
Eat shit, Somalia (boy, did those eugenic polices worked out well for you, Swedone...)

>>518980355
>We have
Lel

>>518980442
Kiss my boot nigger lover.

>>518977837
neither, just america without a kosher label

>>518973173 (OP)
Type 212CD makes sense, logistically and because it's specifically designed for operating in the shallow waters of the east sea. Glad to see Norway arming up.

>>518980444
"we" as Norwegians. I am a Norwegian therefore 'I'.

>>518973173 (OP)
Hmm, not a bad package for general "fuck the Russian patrols, sink some shipping" deterrence.

>>518980545
It can operate in any waters. Even mid Atlantic.

>>518973173 (OP)
good goy, fight and die for making Russia part of ZOG too

>>518980480
Who's your boot nigger lover, faggot nigger kike?

>>518977270
We've actually got a couple in the oven just in case so it's ok

>>518980691
Well yeah but a nuclear powered sub would obviously be better to operate in the middle of the ocean near another continent. The type 212CD is perfect for the current situation in and around europe tho especially due to the zigger threat especially near your cities and in the east sea.

>>518980480
btw, unit 8200, how's site 81 going?...

>>518973173 (OP)
didn't realize germany didn't have any nuclear subs.

>>518981206
they need nyucular subs so they can bring the calvary

>>518973173 (OP)
Germany produces the most silent submarines on planet earth. That's a fact. Maybe that's why.

>>518981296
retard

>>518981025
Adding to this, the only range and performance limiter on a type 212 is food. Everything else, including oxygen, power is a non issue. It doesn't matter that it can stay submerged for only 4 weeks or so because you will be starving after 3. Multiple reports and documentaries with german crews confirm that.

>>518981441
>>518981025
What's its speed submerged?

>>518973173 (OP)
>Type 212CD submarines
wait germs have subs?
how come i never heard about them

>>518980584
Define Norwegian, sounds like racism to my ears.
>>518981077
>>518980882
Are you ok buddy?

>>518981543
Around 20 knots or so?

>>518981614
They're not only subs but considered the best non nuclear subs in the world.

>>518981206
Only six countries have them, and all are nuclear powers. They are, frankly, unnecessarily expensive for coastal defense, but ideal for long-range attack subs and missile subs lurking in wait for doomsday. You know, world-power shit. We're actually oddballs for operating a fully nuclear submarine fleet.

>>518981357
>the most silent
probably because they never do anything and just rust away in port. I doubt in a real war any of this trash would even last a week.

Norwegian globohomo vassals buys directly for the inferior producers in the UKgay instead of buying from Saab.

>>518979443
>They have 5 SU-57s for example.
Maybe 10 years ago. They don't normally reveal the amount of jets produced in each batch but they're set to produce 57 Sukhoi jets (that includes anything from Su-30 to Su-57 so we don't know how many of each) in 2025 alone.
They've recently produced a bunch (idk, like 5-10?) of 34 and 35s for Algeria and assume these are included in this number.
Probably safe to say they're banking in on what's the most useful now i.e. 34s as they've more than enough fighters for now. Despite all of this, some as few months ago planespotters photographed two 57s with numbers not seen before so the production continues.

>>518981985
Did you know that the UK(gay) rent their nuclear arsenal from the US?

>>518982042
seethe more swedetwink

>>518981716
>I'm goncerned
A Russian sub just flew over my house

>>518981989
Who hurt you, zigger?

>>518982113
>Batch
It's 4

>>518982120
Yes, it's a bit silly. Especially since they have much larger problems in tests than we do for whatever fuckin' reason.

>>518982263
I'm just stating facts, sorry they hurt your feelings.

>>518982231
We Swedes are used to this psyop by now.
Whenever the big nose men warn of Russian submarine sightings it's american or british subs.
The swedish coastal defenses are ordered to stand down as the jew submarine escapes.
And then they report it as Russian submarines in the news.

>>518975108
>Lossiemouth
they do top fish n chips on the quay there

>>518982307
It proves that they are insignificant and a useless ally.
Sweden is a better ally to the US than that putrid island nation.

Repent, change your life.
This is your last moment.

>>518982465
if you were a better ally, you'd be buying our bombs.

-shadow wizard money gang

>>518982313
I'm sorry your 50 years out of date soviet designs don't quite match modern NATO hardware.

>>518976688
>>518976802
norwayanon is right on this.
this new boat is lithium powered.
it is as silent as they come.
it does not have the endurance of 214, yes, but it is beyond silent. nothing comes close to that man.
214 has the endurance but needs to surface regularly during that time.
this new version can stay submerged for far longer and be much more silent in the process.
it has its benefits.

>>518982465
Your military-industrial complex is conveniently well put together, you do have that much going for you.

>>518982675
see >>518975108
next time at least try and read the thread before posting your butthurt cope.

>>518982113

No, we know exactly how many they ordered, it was like 76, and 5 ever got produced.
Russia has 5 5th gen fighter jets. That is it.

To put this into comparison, the US makes about as many f-35s in a month as Russia makes all aircraft in a year. (In 2022, Russia made 19 aircraft, America makes about 15 F-35s a month)

Kinda cancels out we ordered the British frigates which are worse than our current ones. With only short range AD missiles they can get overwhelmed by a two ship ashm equiped fighters/bombers pretty much guaranteed

I thought norwegian cucks had their own shipbuilding industry. Pathetic that you need to buy ships

history of swedetwink military
>b but buy muh grippen
lol no
>b buy muh saab boat
lol no
>reEeeEeee

>>518982688
>has low range
>doesnt have hypersonic cruise missiles
>probably cant detect the Yasen Class sub (if the more modern US Navy cant do it, why would they be able with this trash?)

so lets be realistic, its a monkey model submarine, untested and unproven.
judging by the performance of the previous models of this Sub we can also see that they are mostly garbage.

>>518982736
Very strong russia strong

>>518982921
>Nach einem Unfall am 22. Oktober 2017 in Norwegen, bei dem das X-Ruder von U 35 beschädigt worden war, war keines der sechs Boote mehr einsatzfähig. Bereits im Juli 2017 wurde das U 32 von einer Ausbildungsfahrt nach Norwegen vorzeitig nach Kiel zurückgeholt, da an Bord ein Schaden an den Batterien aufgetreten war.

keep coping buddy

>>518982793
they have 22. 32 including the 10 prototypes but they dont count. so 22 it is. that is neither here nor there.
you are right. nobody has the airforce that USA has.

>>518982903
what the fuck are you talking about man.
we are getting our subs from the same country and company. our most modern sub is a german 214 model.
wtf?

>>518983002
You are the only one coping here, buddy.

>>518982906
Its like you get a black doll for christmas (Uk garbage) when you wrote santa that you wanted a barbie doll (saab)
No wonder our seafaring ancestors conquered you Brits and discovered, and laid the foundation of the US.

>>518983075
I accept your concession, better luck next time :)

>>518982903
also double pathetic to buy ships from UK. It's telling your country is absolutely miserable and cannot be helped with

>>518983033
Turkey is going to be excluded from NATO pretty soon.
You can count on that after you humiliated our PM.

>>518983122
How mad are you right now

>>518983087
try it now swedetwink :)
bring your rusty saab nobody wants along
lol
>fyfan reeeee
lol

>>518982793
>we know
Who's we, jew?

Here's news of 3 different deliveries in 2024 alone, published directly by the manufacturer
September 12
https://t.me/uac_ru/2638
November 11
https://t.me/uac_ru/2747
December 23
https://t.me/uac_ru/2893

>>518973173 (OP)
I can't remember, was it you or the swedes that set up neon gay porn underwater as a deterant to Russian subs?

>>518983175
not at all but I do enjoy seeing your butthurt :)
so keep coping. wanna write another wall of cope for me about how the loser german navy isnt garbage?

>>518983177
We could embargo the british isles just like Mr Hitler did.
Then you'll run out of tea and crumpets real fast.
Stuck on your island, sewers and the streets filled with shit and shitskins.
I doubt anyone would lift a finger to save the UK even if the Russians invaded you.

>>518983298
>:)

>>518983033
Our subs are built in Gölcük with locally made stuff.

>>518983272
That was the swedish navy, and the navy is gay that is universal.
Its a universal thing.

>>518983392
>turkish submarines
lmao

>>518983318
>We could embargo the british isles just like Mr Hitler did.
lol
lmao no you couldn't. you couldn't stop luxembourg.
>b b bbrown people
pipe down muhammad from malmo
you're not important. at all.

>>518982913
dude it is one of the very few submarines in the world(including concept models) that uses lithium batteries.
the diesel engine inside this model is only for redundancy.
the diesel engine barely works so it is beyond fucking silent.
it can get the oxygen from the water itself and can stay submerged more than any other diesel sub out there.
since it always runs on batteries it is more silent and stealthy than any other boat out there.
russian subs are great but they can never be as silent as a boat that is running on batteries all the time.
>>518983154
you are talking out of your ass. retarded pol jargon.
you would wish for that. many people do.
but your wishes are asinine.
we can be out of nato, it is possible, but it will never be because you wanted it to be.

>>518983392
and they are still a 214 model designed by Howaldtswerke-Deutsche Werft.
we are making our own but the design and the model is german. to a tee.

>>518983512
>pipe down muhammad from malmo
>you're not important. at all.
Reported to the british cyber safety police for violent racist attack.
Officers will be with you soon.
Better pucker your anus because you will be sharing a cell with Mohammidton.

>>518983647
oh no swedetwink, im scared
please don't tell on me
you're brown and from Malmo
and you're seething because your gay penis shaped country isn't important

>>518983523
We know that Turkey is a rogue muslim state that is not on the same page as western civilization.
You're just riding coattails on us.

>>518983523
>that uses lithium batteries.
which easily break.
>it can get the oxygen from the water itself and can stay submerged more than any other diesel sub out there.
cant compete with nuclear submarines.
>it always runs on batteries
they still have to go to periscope depth and snorkel for a couple hours once in a while. the snorkel is detectable.
>but they can never be as silent
apparently they are very silent when the US Navy cant detect them anymore.
they lost track of them. Mutts have been freaking out about this for years.

>>518983712
Bobbies are on their way.
You can't be spreading such hateful racism on the internet.
Abdullington will be pleased with his new cellmate.

>>518983474
your country is turkish made.

>>518983832
ok, that's nice dear. you can go back to your mudslime boyfriend and tell him all about it now

>>518983784
>nuclear submarines.
Are ancient relics from the cold war, they are easily detected and destroyed.

>>518983861
turks are useless subhumans

>>518983899
maybe in the videogames you play, in the real world they are superior.
see >>518975108

>>518983721
>bla bla bla.
it is pol after all.
enjoy those meatballs man.
and the coffee too.

>>518983784
dude i am telling you stealth is the most powerful aspect of a submarine.
and this gives these lithium boats an edge over most other propulsion systems.
nuclear propulsion is notoriously loud.
it is known. even diesel subs are more silent than nuclear subs.

>>518983895
>ok, that's nice dear. you can go back to your mudslime boyfriend and tell him all about it now
He moved into a 5 star hotel in your neighborhood actually.

>>518973173 (OP)
Good goy. Go die in the meat grinder

>>518983899
>t. can't figure out how nukes work, so seethes instead

>>518983928
Nah mate, they're inferior and dangerous.

>>518983941
>nuclear propulsion is notoriously loud.
maybe in the 1970s, not anymore.
now the Nuclear Subs like the Yasen Class are so silent the US Navy + NATO with all its ASW resources cant detect it while it drives around their carrier.

if the US Navy struggles with that then your shithole has about zero chance of detecting them.

>>518983899
You're an insufferable moron who cannot comprehend of their usefulness to an actual world power.

>>518983955
Don't need submarines to launch nukes, Mohammidton.
But we now that you rent and service your nuclear arsenal in the US, because your country is to incompetent to manage it on its own.

>>518984120
we rent the missile. the nuke is built in the uk.
and we do it because it's cheaper. you just can't afford them and don't know how nuclear weapons work lol

>>518984103
Russia have nuclear torpedoes with 300 megaton payload.
What does the US have, nuclear submarines from the 70's.
With the browning of americas demographic who is going to operate your submarines?
Shaniqua, sanchez and tyrone?

>>518984177
>we rent the missile
And service them in the US.
Its certainly not cheap.
We built nukes in the 50's and could easily built them again.

I thought Russia was fighting with spades, shovels, picks and washing machines.

>>518973307
For another Crusade to liberate Sidon

>>518984331
>And service them in the US.
>Its certainly not cheap.
yes. and we make the nuclear warhead in the UK and swervice it in the UK
and it is cheaper, thats why we do it numbnuts. we already built a launcher decades before and worked out it was cheaper to rent them.
>reeee you buy other peoples military hardware reeee
yes ? seethe moar because you can't figure out how nukes work lol

>>518984433
They don't have to fight at all, only kick their feet up as the western leaders destroy our civilization from within.

>>518984512
Outsourcing your nuclear arsenal and capabilities to another country.
You can't see the problem with this?
Brownoid shill.

>>518982378
>Psyop
You're the ones psyoping yourselves, retards

>>518984082
nuclear boats can be heard and tracked.
you are literally talking out of your ass.
you are boiling fucking water with a nuclear reaction and pushing that superheated steam through turbines to get power.
you cannot make that silent. there is no fucking way.
this is wunderwaffen talk. it is total bullshit.
again, diesel subs are more silent than nuclear subs by a wide margin.
nuclear subs have their benefits of unmatched speed and endurance but in terms of stealth they dont have it.

i bet you know the story of the swedish sub called gotland. it is mostly made out of plastic and it is diesel powered.
it was so fucking silent that it was able to sink american aircraft carriers in war games each and every time.
it was so efficient that american had the boat ordered for review.
again.
you cannot track diesel subs to begin with and you are comparing them with nuclear subs which are loud as fuck. and then you are comparing them with lithium propulsion to boot.
retard.
you are ignorant and talking out of your ass.
wunderwaffe bullshit.

>>518973173 (OP)
>and 5 or 6 Type 26 anti sub frigates from the UK.
Bad choice, please buy more german products.

>>518975252
What is the vision of Norway on the future? What does it mean.. to be Norwegian . Is it to be multicultural?

>>518981989
Naaah in a training (RIMPAC) a German submarine was the only one that couldn't be destroyed because they didn't know where it is. In the end the german submarine "destroyed" the carrier. All a simulation, of course, but without that, and fully armed, the carrier would have been send to the fish'.thats not a myth but a noted fact like you can Re read other rimpac or other training weeks like with tanks (not in the US).

>>518984616
Hurrpa durrrpa psyop this n dat.

why the fuck would you buy subs from Germany

>>518984606
>renting a few missiles is "outsourcing your nuclear arsenal"
you seething cos you don't have any lol

>>518984228
Why the fuck do we need nuclear torpedoes when we can sling hundreds of MIRV'd ICBM warheads in one launch?

>>518984627
Abdull knows what hes talking about.
Nuclear submarines are only good for launching nukes, not particularly good at hunting other submarines.

>>518982313
You state nothing nigger. How's you work yourself in to the rimpac and how German submarines out maneuvered a carrier plus it's fleet and won the game. Nigger.

>>518984228
oh, and the Columbia-class is replacing the older subs from the 80s. You're just an ignorant fucking piece of Eurotrash who doesn't understand what nukes are for.

>>518973173 (OP)
>6 subs
and
>6 anti subs
Seems kinda counter productive, no?

>>518984786
Well creating an irradiated tsunami is pretty fuckin bad ass what do you think.

>>518984512
>and it is cheaper
How's that working out for ya, chap?

>>518973173 (OP)
Do you even have naval experience?

>>518984786
the reasoning for that is there have been many attempts to intercept ICBMs/SLBMs.
midcourse ballistic missile defense is something many nations worked on for decades by now.

but none of that RnD was there for torpedoes.

>>518984854
What are they for mister burger?
Please enlighten us professor burger.

>>518984930
Waste of resources when you can use the same amount of nuclear material to fling dozens of missiles instead. Nuclear torpedoes are a meme, or for carrier-killing in full-blown WW3 operation where the missiles are flying already. There is no other practical purpose, 300 megatons is fuckhuge but not enough for a tsunami.

>>518982688
>Newer
>Evolved
Shocked...
>>518982378
>>518984732
Sorry I hurt your feels... Too many retards here lol

>>518984627
>you cannot make that silent. there is no fucking way.
and yet here it is you dumb nigger and mutts have lost track of where the Russian nuclear subs are.

>>518985114
But you can intercept the missiles yes?
What about a nuclear torpedo that you can't defend against like the Turk poster said.
Imagine such a thing detonating at the bottom of the sea outside New York.

>>518984730
>in a training
worthless and has nothing to do with real world combat conditions.
>All a simulation
in other words, fully made up.

>>518985000
>Asking Norway if we have naval experience when we built your Alaskan fishing industry.
>Asking Norway after Nortraship
Nigger, please.

>>518975108
kek globohomo in panic, can't find a single russian sub. Did they think jose martinez and shanequa jackson would make good sonar techs or commanders? HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA

>>518985161
>it is so tiresome.
where did they lost track of them man? in the baltic?
when they left kaliningrad?
fucking lol.

or did they lose track of them in the fucking arctic.
you are ignorant.
i am sorry.
but this is tiresome.

>>518980250
>>518980255
>P..P..Please don't blockade us!
That's all i hear slavshitters.

>>518985340
>Sonar makes a loud BEEP from detecting a nearby sub
>Dequan Jackson with his headphones on "I dont hear shit nigga"

thats the issue, niggas cant hear ceiling birds and are also useless as sonar operators. lmao

>>518985114
>Waste of resources when you can use the same amount of nuclear material to fling dozens of missiles instead.
All icbm are detected by satellites these days.
But there can be a nuclear torpedo loitering right next to LA and you won't know it.

>>518985055
Lurking, patrolling at long range, and waiting for long enough that a diesel boat with AIP would have to fuck off to refuel and resupply half a dozen times. Nuclear boats are an incredible pain in the ass to trace. Ours are quieter than the Russians, whose are quieter than the Chinese.
We can have them pop up wherever, launch their missile spread or sink a ship, then fuck off again without having to worry about critical supply problems constantly. They're still a thing, just far less urgent.
>>518985018
>>518985263
And the US approach so far has been to minimize those attempts with SLBM doctrine - low-angle, high-velocity mass launch with MIRVs and penetration aids.
Yes, one might still be able to nuke a carrier group with a torp, but that's going to start WW3 if it wasn't started already. US would completely lose its shit, as a whole.

>>518985419
see >>518975108
also not the first time it happened that they couldnt detect it.

>>518985477
It is not all about detection, it is what, precisely, the fuck you can do when the warning time is under 10 minutes and how one completes the kill chain on the nukes (plural, many) and not the decoys in that time frame. That is SLBM doctrine in a nutshell.

>>518973173 (OP)
Submarines are BASED.


Nothing can sense more than a few dozen meters away through water. It is the ultimate stealth system and protection system since water stops virtually all types of weapons except a propelled craft such as the torpedo or submersible attack drone.

>>518985501
Wouldn't it be a great way to start ww3 by detonating a couple of those torpedoes on the east and west coast of the US without warning.

>>518985716
That would be much less useful than just blowing up the same device on the surface.

>>518985748
I guess you're right, just drive it straight into the harbor and detonate it.
But wouldn't a radioactive tsunami cause more damage?

>>518985868
nukes don't do the same fallout they did in the 50's.

>>518985586
>the fuck you can do when the warning time is under 10 minutes
You can intercept some.
If you still can't (understandable because US is lagging behind Russian in icbm tech), eventually you may. If that happens, existing missiles would become obsolete until a workaround is found. A nuclear torpedo is the fallback for that scenario.

>>518986105
frankly, a nuclear torpedo hitting continental US would be a death sentence for whomever used it.

>>518975108
>it was real in my head
Let me guess, Indian Times

>>518986231
Yes, and? It's a deterrent.

>>518986067
Sure but water would cause more damage to infrastructure.

>>518986260
let me guess, you are butthurt

>>518986231
And besides, you'd first have to figure out whose nuke it was. Could've been the jews.
Bit more clear-cut with icbms innit.

>>518985501
i mean.
ballistic missile attack is easier by orders of magnitude compared to ballictic missile defense.
the nuclear torpedo the russkis were tinkering about will be a blip if at all if nuclear exchanges start taking place.
it can demolish coastlines and ports for sure but there will be over a 1000 nuclear warheads to worry about too.

>>518985523
my man. you are not making sense.
this is the fucking article.
https://www.eurasiantimes.com/edited-worlds-biggest-aircraft-carrier-vs-worlds/
it is posted by eurasian times and this is the only source for this.
the baltic is basically a lake like the med and there are chokepoints in both of them.

a yasen class sub has been sent to cuba. but it is not certain if it entered the atlantic from the baltic or the arctic. most people suspect the arctic since the baltic chokepoints are guarded hard.

>>518986358
Things like that aren't a surprise. Despite how the news and movies portray it.

>>518986231
except if it's Israel's

>>518986383
it makes perfect sense, mutts couldnt detect it and launched a huge search which failed to locate the sub.
now they are memoryholing this asap.

>>518985269
>>in a training
>worthless and has nothing to do with real world combat conditions.
You are so fucking stupid.. It's a military training where the US navy tries, with ALL they have, including Satellites,radar, sonar, etc etc etc to find and "destroy" the enemy. They try their best, and the "enemy" does the same. The ONLY difference is that there's no real ammo. Are you retarded or what? The ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THAT THE "SHOT" IS SIMULATED. Nato members like in this case Germany can see if it was a major hit or not, which part was destroyed, which partly, or not. The US as part of this training can see if they got hit "hard" or not. If it would lead to the ship sinking or not, if weapon systems got destroyed or not etc etc. Everything, from weapon systems, to power supply, casualties, is simulated but due to math and physics (which you nigger know shit about) that calculated by computers. The operations, maneuvers, the tactics and recon, everything is, AND THATS THE WHOLE POINT OF THESE RIMPAC GAMES, NIGGER, absolute real.
>>All a simulation
>in other words, fully made up.
It's the fucking biggest, most expensive, most real and most tactical training in the world you dumb fucking Mohamed.

>>518986383
also you are a dumb low IQ turk shitskin thats too retarded to use google.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2100594/nato-scrambles-warplanes-putin-submarine

>>518986420
A nuke blows up somewhere in NY harbor in 2 minutes.
Whose doing is it?

>>518986637
>bunch of copes like "They try their best"
kek no they dont

>>518986487
>making statements based on public information

>>518986707
the failed search was so big they couldnt cover it up and had to make a statement.
nigger.

>>518986651
You don't want to live in a world where a nuke blows up in a major metropolitan area in the states and no one knows where it came from. Publically.

>>518986819
That doesn't answer the question.

>>518986762
>>518986637
>us wargames are about destroying the enemy by any means necessary
You have no idea what you're talking about. You some fucking grunt stationed in germany talking about shit he wishes he was involved in?

>>518986640
Shut the fuck up VPN Vlad nigger. I don't care about your shit and lying. You are just a fat turd, payed with some cheap Rubel to be destructive. All the incest that made you the sondaughter of your brotheruncledad made you a cheap little troll whore. Kill yourself nigger.

>>518986897
>who did hypothetical thing!?
Why would I entertain something so stupid? I do know how we'd react to the thing happening regardless of the culprit.

>>518986936
nice copes mutt.
any more?
>>518986977
>butthurt jew shill seething and projecting
LOL look how mad he is :)

>>518986936
And you know, right? Sitting in front of your pc, rapping to anime and writing in 4chan, you nigger know.

>>518986358
That's what the nuke sniffers are for, they can tell the isotope composition of whatever goes off. This then leads to where the nuclear material came from, every country gets and processes its shit a little differently.

>>518987108
>you know, right?
Better than you.

>>518975887
>Nuclear subs are noisy as FUG
You have not kept up with modern sub design.

>>518975592
>Type 212CD submarines are undetectable even for the US navy
>>518975592
>could sink
>a US carrier fleet)
Passively listening is not the only way to detect a submarine. Blue-green laser, MAD (magnetic anomaly), and good-old fashioned active SONAR are much better in certain circumstances. Once the non-Nuke boat is detected, it's ability to evade is sharply limited and it goes deaf as it speeds up.
One engagement scenario: Active ping, ASROC torpedo on it's location, helo drops another on its evasion path once it's too fast to hear it.

A non-Nuke boat is essentially a manned CAPTOR mine.

>>518973173 (OP)
why is it flying wtf is this stealth blimp shit?

>>518987101
Now I know that you are a payed troll haha. :) everytime the cheapest meme.
>>if caught play the jew card
Yeah you are propably the kike and it's your 30 shekels you get.

>>518987064
If you can't entertain hypothetical scenarios you must be one of those melanin Americans.
>I do know
Doubtful.

>>518987141
Yes, and by then time will have passed.

>>518987101
This should be your theme song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYlJH81dSiw

>>518987269
>butthurt jew shill trys the "no u"
lmao pathetic what else you got Judenboy :)

>>518986640
dude.
you are a fucking moron.
look at google again and search for recent articles.
a russian submarine was detected just 10 hours ago in the baltic sea.
the so called "invisible" submarines you are talking about.
there are many articles about it.
you are retarded and no amount of baseless pol jargon ad hominem will save you.

it is all wunderwaffen talk to make the point that nuclear submarines are more silent than diesel and lithium ones.
this is where you are at.

>>518987295
Can't and won't aren't the same thing, saar.

>>518974303
>>518974540
Why didn't you buy stealth subs from your neighbor?

>>518987339
said the obese mutt guy with the "i'm a retarded circumcised nigger" themesong kek

>>518978523
>The Norwegian air force could defeat the Russian air force ALONE
I agree with this. The F-35 sensors make all the difference.

>>518987386
source: pravda.ua
top kek good one

>>518987454
what's a not-stealth sub?

>>518987623
take your fucking pick dude but dont strawman the source.
there are dozens of them.
fucking lol.
take your fucking pick.

>>518986640
>>518986936
RIMPAC:
2001
Training operation: JTFEX
Research the rest yourself you niggers.

>>518987700
Swedish subs use liquid o2 systems to operate sterling engines. They don't have to recharge batteries with diesel for weeks. Virtually the same advantage as nuclear subs but much quieter.
This is germany abusing its eu position to force sales.

>>518987830
these new boats they are getting are a new breed.
they use lithium batteries.

>>518974540
powerful nations build their own warships

>>518987830
Wasn't my question. All subs are stealth subs, except the rescue ones. I'm aware of how they achieve their quiet.

>>518987801
I know what RIMPAC is. You're not clever. To help you out, what the public goal and what the classified goals are for joint exercises are literally never the same thing.

>>518973173 (OP)
>Norway has just ordered 6 Type 212CD submarines from Germany and 5 or 6 Type 26 anti sub frigates from the UK.
why?
for what purpose?

>>518976115
i love that pic.

>>518987913
That isn't new; japan has being doing that for years. So has china.
I still think the point of a sub is to stay quiet and submerged for as long as possible. The british using dampening materials and increasing recharge speed is not the point.

>>518973173 (OP)
>non nuclear submarines
Whats the point? I'm sure you could get the UK or France to get some for you

>>518988414
yes other nations have been doing that but nobody but germany has that in europe.
regardless, it is still a new breed.
it does not have the endurance of a diesel sub but can stay submerged for longer during its mission.

a diesel sub or a sterling sub will still need to resurface many times during operation.
again, lithium propulsion has its benefits.
and it is very silent since there are no generators to charge the batteries. the diesel engine on this new sub is only for redundancy.
the diesel sub needs to surface many times to run its engines and to charge their batteris.
lithium subs dont need to do that.

>>518973173 (OP)
wouldn't it be cool if people knew the submarine was invented by an Irishman? this post will infuriate kikes and brownoids

>>518973173 (OP)

I wonder what a distributed, acoustic, time reversal mirror would do to a sub like that?

>>518988494
France have nukes and the country is going to collapse economically and socially before 2040.

>>518978809
>over 2000 planes all modernized and up to date
The modernized and stealthy AN-2 biplane

>>518975108
Z

>>518982860
Norwegian Navy is basically designed to integrate into the Royal Navy in a war with Russia

>>518987723
keep coping turk

>>518989583
Works the same with radar...a type of energy weapon. Similar math applies to both electromagnetic and acoustic weapons.

Let's say you get a Sonar (or radar in the case of aircraft) ping off of a sub. Several (or more) adversary subs receive the reflected ping.

What they can do is, send a return 'pulse' to the origin point of the initially reflected sonar ping...in the same way it was received...as though the energy is being sent in reverse...but then can amplify it when sending it back. And with a distributed platform, each sub times the puse to create a coherent superposition at the originating source.

Basically creating a isentropic pressure wave.

>>518977837
At least Russia is sovereign, you rich motherfucker...

And I believe there's more billionaires in Russia too, so...

>>518990138
Obviously, technology such as this makes a lot of your guy's "war gaming" obsolete.

You need to factor in technology like this, changes the entire strategic equation.

>>518975108
>which was operating dangerously close to the US Navy’s largest aircraft carrier
how did they know this?

>>518973173 (OP)
>6 Type 212CD submarines from Germany
Non-nuclear subs? Lmao, good luck.

>>518974303
You can protect those refugee boats now properly

Bump. NIGGER

>>518975431
>34 posts about Russian greatness
Why not just go back to Russia you Ossie zigger shill? Asking seriously here.
>>518975496
>but please feel free to spend more of your money in Germany.
>we have lots of crap to sell to you.
"we"
unbelievable

>>518988737
Normal diesel subs yes. The swedes system allows the sub to stay submerged for four times longer. It's almost like you didn't read my post.

>>518992368
clean my toilet pooplack

>>518992368
It really is funny how none of the ziggers going on about how amazing russia is actually live in russia, isn't it?

>>518992970
>he came back for a pooplack support post at the end of the thread
LOL totally buckbroke this loser :)

>>518993173
>:)
lol