Thread 518988339

(or any religion, for that matter)

first of all, the muh golden rule, selfish altruism and things like sense of justice emerge natually in groups, even monkeys have that (literal monkeys), you don't need to teach that. you can say it's evolutionary

secondly, and most importantly, the only thing that really matters is the thing that is enforced. and things like "don't kill that taxpayer" or "don't steal from that merchant" were enforced by guards with spears long before any-fucking-religion, christianity included. guards with spears are necessary and sufficient for any society to behave "morally" - a religion doesn't have anything to do with it

>>518988339 (OP)
enjoy your monkey-based morality determined by violence then? if religious power is dominant then by all definitions they won the power game and are thus valid arbiters of morality

>>518988339 (OP)
MF is literally looking at monkeys for moral guidance

>>518988621
>if religious power is dominant then by all definitions they won the power game and are thus valid arbiters of morality
yes, but because they have literal power, not because of magical rabbies or flying donkeys.

power never comes from morals, theoretical morals come evolutionary, practical morals always come from power. no place for holy books here

People who want to leave a society should be able to leave it. People who break the rules should have to fistfight a guard. If he's breaking the rules for legitimate reasons, it's worth fistfighting someone.

>>518988339 (OP)
I'm sorry. I'm atheist. Christians are midwit and below.

>>518988339 (OP)
>>518988921
Find Jesus.

>>518989167
Find Bob.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=o0x9ymMQUg8

>>518989311
I am smarter and more morally just than Jesus was, soo

>>518988621
Morality is self evident
Bad things have negative effects on the world
Good things have positive effects on the world.

For example homosexuality is obviously wrong and being straight is morally correct as gay = disease, and death not just individually either but societally, gays actively invite their own oppression in the form of refugees welcome bs. Gay is death.
Meanwhile straight is life.

Slavery is obviously wrong because while it may benefit you individually it inherently creates a sense of resentment and pupetuates a cycle of revenge.

Killing in self defence is obviously good
Whereas murder is obviously wrong.
Stealing produces negative effects

Good things result in good
And bad things result in bad.
You should take this from a collective view more than an individual one but if someone insists on individualism then the golden rule is do unto others as you want done to you.
If you are bad to everyone they will be bad to you

>>518988339 (OP)
Damn, still lives rent free in your added brain, huh? What is this phenomena called?

>>518990003
Just how brown are you? By that logic, since you responded, atheism lives freely in your head

>>518988339 (OP)
All their claims of morality were stolen from Plato anyway and then distorted. Anyone following one of the Abrahamic desert death cults is as far from God as one can be. Spiritually castrated/lazy.

>>518990308
Don't forget Egypt as well. They lifted many parables and good behavior lessons from their cultural works.