Thread 519090201

Why did he invade Russia?

Was he fucking crazy?

>>519090201 (OP)
Zionist infiltrator. The loss was intentional so Israel could be created. Order out of chaos.

Russia was about to attack, simple as.

>>519090201 (OP)

necessary to make britain come to negotiation table
as long as there existed a chance that russia would join the allies britain would not surrender

>>519090201 (OP)
Russia and Finland are big no nos

Lebensraum

>>519090315
no they weren't

>>519089126
>>519089126
>>519089126

>>519090201 (OP)
Amphetamines make you overestimate your abilities, make bad decisions seem like great decisions, and once you get your mind set on a goal it makes you never abandon it no matter how bad your position becomes.

>>519090201 (OP)
Because by conquering France and being held to a stalemate by Britain he was running short on resources. Russia was seen as a weak country that would fall quickly. According to Nazi logic communism was inferior to monarchism, and they had defeated the Russians when it was a monarchy, in WW1.

>>519090315
>Russia was about to attack, simple as.
This, they never teach the truth about WWII.
The Bolshevik Revolution was funded by (((western financiers)), failing on taking control of Germany due to the National Socialist a scheme was hatched by the UK to destroy Germany through war. Germany responded to Jewish violence upon ethnic Germans living on territory ceded to Poland in the Treaty Of Versalles. This strife was coordinated between the UK and the Antifa Bolsheviks kicked out to Poland. Also,cPoland was guaranteed more German land in the aftermath of what the allies believed was going to be a quick victory and how convenient that Russia signing the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact set the table.

Fast forward to the Ukraine - Russia troubles and the crisis on the streets on America.
Same financiers, same street players, same political players, same playbook.

>>519090315
proof?

>>519090201 (OP)
Look what happened to Finland. The Russians can't be trusted on their word. They were setting up for attack.

>>519091213
cont

Following Dunkirk with London on the verge of strangling under U-Boat pressure Stalin was encouraged to move his forces from a defense in depth to forward deployment for a surprise invasion. Hitler got wind of it.

>>519090391
Yes they were. Lebensraum is an excuse used by slavs even though they are largely post-war exaggerated accusations.

>>519090201 (OP)
stalin was going to invade europe, hitler knew this.

>>519090201 (OP)
he wanted oil and white people do NOT like market prices so he chimped out

>>519091282
Soviet trains all being converted to the European standard

>>519090201 (OP)
>Why did he invade Russia?
>Was he fucking crazy?
He turned against the Jews who helped him get started.

So he had to get oil from somewhere.

>>519090391
Lebensraum has been debunked
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX8USPwWi1Q&t=1s

Neither Germany nor Russia wanted to sign the peace agreement with each other, Germany had its eyes on the vast industrial resources in Belarus and the Ukraine - useful when you're at war with the whole world. I forget why Germany had to settle for war with England first.
>CAPTCHA: 0SMPN
That's right, no simpin'.

Yes.

>>519091666
Why did Stalin sign it then?
Nice digits you kike

>>519091213
>violence upon ethnic Germans living on territory ceded to Poland in the Treaty Of Versalles.
The German false flag is still fooling people 86 years later. I know it has - very suddenly and ~completely organically~ within the last few weeks - become popular to hate on Poland again, but let's do use our brains, yes?

>>519090201 (OP)
because he had giant balls of steel

>>519091827
>Why did Stalin sign it then?
Preptime
>Nice digits you kike
I disavow my own devil's trips

>>519091909
>muh Gleiwitz false flag
Fuck off

>>519090315
Then why not build defenses and let them attack instead of choosing to appear as the aggressor and breaking the treaty first?

>>519090315
ah yes, the source? it came to me in a dream hypothesis

>>519090201 (OP)
because they were communist scum

now why didn't america attack the communists?

>>519092235
Soviet Army massively numbered available German forces, the only path with a possibility of victory was a pre-emptive Blitzkrieg attack.

>>519092360
Because the Roosevelt and UK governments were infiltrated by Jews and Communist

in hitler's own mind, he had no choice. from a strategic point of view, hitler knew in order to defeat the soviet union and create his national socialist ethnostate, he needed to capture the land and resources of the east, which was always a goal of national socialism to begin with.

he didn't succeed, and for multiple reasons,
>grave miscalculation of the soviet union's will to fight until the bitter end
>the conservative german army leadership actively thwarted his initial invasion plans by focusing on moscow rather than the resource-rich ukraine and oil fields of the caucuses
>he fought to acquire resources he needed to win the war, so if he couldn't take them and hold them in a year or two max, it was a lost cause.

hitler wasn't crazy, he was motivated by belief that he was saving civilization from certain destruction. people do all kinds of shit when they believe they are the good guys, it should not come as a surprise to anyone that hitler wasn't any different

>>519090201 (OP)
he should have met Trump, and just build a wall 40ft high

>>519090315
Pretty much. How anybody can look at what the Soviets did after the war and fiegn ignorance on why Germany attacked first? This is simply being disingenuous on purpose.

>>519092606
Sad thing is Hitler did try to patch up relationships with the US and UK through sports and cultural outreach. Auto Union won the Vanderbilt Cup auto race in the US, the Isle Of Man TT, Grand Prix races across Europe, and chartered ocean liners of vacationing German worker families were sent to New Jersey but were barred from docking. Also picrel was sabotaged with a bomb.

>>519092863
((they)) do not want to see you happy and succesful
((they)) need disorder and chaos, ((they)) thrive in such environments.

Just like a parasite trying to hide for as long as possible

The eastern front was under-supplied and outgunned. Hitler's generals begged him to pull back but he refused and went to sleep, ignoring calls. This was in Irving's "Hitler's War".
Eva Braun was jewish and he escaped with her, the bolsheviks collaborating with their escape and "burning the body" before anybody found it.
WW2 was a massive White genocide that resulted in creating Israel and the UN.

>>519092606
>>the conservative german army leadership actively thwarted his initial invasion plans by focusing on moscow rather than the resource-rich ukraine and oil fields of the caucuses
No, retard, the German generals wanted to take the caucuses. Hitler insisted on making useless Stalingrad his target for a propaganda victory. The grave miscalculation was his own.

>>519093171
never forget Dresden

>>519093171
>Hitler's generals begged him to pull back but he refused and went to sleep, ignoring calls
Kek, he is literally me. He also reportedly went to sleep at like 4am and didn't wake up sooner than 1pm. What a legend.

>>519090201 (OP)
Satanic Sacrifice of White Goyim

>>519093417
>umm this war of aggression is totally le same as this war of defense
Kys bloody benchod

>>519090201 (OP)
stalin took lithuania against the MR pact and this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bavarian_Soviet_Republic

>Having received the blessings of Lenin – who at the annual May Day celebration in Red Square said: "The liberated working class is celebrating its anniversary not only in Soviet Russia but in ... Soviet Bavaria"[25][14][18] – Leviné began to enact more communist reforms, which included forming a "Red Army" from factory workers, seizing cash, food supplies, and privately owned guns, expropriating luxurious apartments and giving them to the homeless, and placing factories under the ownership and control of their workers. One of Munich's main churches was taken over and made into a revolutionary temple which would be presided over by "Goddess Reason". Bavaria was to be in the vanguard of the Bolshevization of central Europe, with all workers to receive military training.[18]

>Leviné also had plans to abolish paper money and reform the education system, but he did not have time to implement them. There was time, however, for Max Levien, following Lenin's orders, to arrest aristocrats and members of the middle class as hostages.[18]

>>519093171
What a retarded comment, lol

>>519090489
Yeah a lot of people forget how amped up the NASDAP were. Lots of meth. Lots of it.

>>519090315
This, only pidorized dedovschina victims disagree.

>>519090201 (OP)
Are you fucking retarded you don't even know your own fucking flags history. Russia was poised to invade Deutschland. They were poised to invade Poland. Adolf beat them to it you moron.

>>519092863
Correction: BMW at the Isle of Man, not Auto Union (Audi)

>>519093646
Germans are fed fake history from birth. Be understanding.

>>519090391
>no they weren't
Yes they were. The reason Wehrmacht smashed the Soviet lines and took so many prisoners first months was because there was a massive Soviet troop build up on the border - and none of them were entrenched for defensive purposes.

Why did he invade Russia?

Was he fucking crazy?

>>519093232
You're confusing Barbarossa with Case Blue.

Also, Stalingrad was anything but useless. It was an major railway junction linking the Caucasus with the rest of the Soviet Union. The capture of Stalingrad was crucial for the conquest of the Caucasus, and Hitler was well aware of this.

>>519090201 (OP)
fkn meth dood

>>519093232
Stalingrad was a major city on the Volga river, which was being used to ship oil north to refineries for distribution. taking Stalingrad would be a step to halting this entirely, and redirecting oil shipping to the west to axis-occupied europe.

the idea that Hitler was invested in Stalingrad solely to take hold of "Stalin's city" for propaganda is dated.

>>519093232
Hitler literally wanted to go to the caucuses for the oil.

>>519093731
Russia isn't some unbeatable entity like dummies online like to say. They have lost multiple wars, regardless of Napoleon's failure.

>>519093879
Meth is one hell of a drug. And for a moment it literally looked like he was succeeding. Imagine what kind of feeling that was.

>>519093417
>please hate hiter

no.

heil hitler o/ It's Fuhrer Friday

The retarded paranoid wrongly thought Russia was about to attack, simple as.

>>519090201 (OP)
the short answer is:
>Oil
Germany was projected to run out of oil soon, so the best shot was to invade the USSR and take the oil fields in the Caucuses.

As for why they had generally planned to invade the USSR for years, it’s mainly because of the shrinking markets theory. Basically:
>USSR grows all the food
>Germany trades them industrial goods for food
>USSR eventually uses said industrial goods to become a fully industrialized nation themselves.
>USSR doesn’t need to trade food anymore.
>Germany is either starved or cucked.
You can apply the theory to any other nations, but this is what Hitler believed would happen. So they decided that instead, they would conquer the USSR and basically use it as farmland to feed the rest of the empire.

>>519090315
This. Hitler had no choice but to pre-emptivly attack or he would have been crushed by the Soviet Hoard

>>519094630
This. It would have been Genghis Khan 2.0. Thank God Germany saved the West from this apocalypse.

I see a lot of anti-Russian and anti-Soviet propaganda in 4chan, reddit and twitter.
Looks like western countries preparing for round three.
Stay safe, friends.

>>519093955
Romania was a German ally and had plenty of oil for peacetime needs.

Nigga heil Hitler
Nigga heil Hitler
They don't understand the things I say on Twitter
Nigga heil Hitler

>>519090201 (OP)
because that's where the jew hive was

>>519094086
>t. country that has lost every war since ww2

>>519094894
You have to look at it not as WWII countries but blocs under the control of Jews and those resisting. In reality after Stalin kicked out the Jews in government and business, particularly Ukrine, they left for the UK and US to become NeoCon influencers. The Bandera neo-Nazis in Ukraine are useful idiots not a representation of national political ideology.

>>519094999
Saved that

>>519093471
They are both wars of defense

>>519094630
You think it actually would’ve went worse if the Soviets invaded first? The Wehrmacht killed 1.7 Americans for every 1 of their soldiers and the US had by far the best logistics, air force, and some of the best small arms weaponry; they also did it while fighting a much larger war in the East.

A Germany that had actually prepared defenses against the Soviets and hadn’t been weakened by their own failed invasion could’ve absolutely decimated the Soviets. They also would’ve likely had more support from the occupied countries, and the West would be less hungry to intervene.

>>519094999
So you're telling me all conspiracy theorists are nazis?

Thanks for telling us what we already knew.

>>519095218
You completely forgot that Europe has good infrastructure, which is a death sentence for any longer war. If Soviets gained a foothold, they would never be able to be kicked out. Compare that to the endless frozen wastelands of Russia. Europe was completely helpless if it was invaded first.

>>519090201 (OP)
Because he wasn't a chicken.

>>519090201 (OP)
I have won on HOI4 so he wasn’t too crazy

>>519095218
Lies. You are jewish

>>519092235
>He doesn't into war
>Remember the Maginot line?

Come on noob.

>>519090201 (OP)
Very simple. You don't have to be a genius to understand.

Stalin planned to attack and conquer Europe. We have ridiculous amounts of hard evidence supporting this theory.

>>519090286
Very dumb. You have to be a special kind of stupid to think that. Alex Jones-tier stupid.
Here's some other disinfo nuggets you crave or spread in order to not talk about jews:
>flat earth
>crisis actor
>demonic elites
>christ i king

Hitler Germany was the one that didn't cuck. Jews have power precisely because they are in both camps, cultivate great racial agency and can react to any happenings. We don't (thank judeo-christianity for that).

>>519090315
Korrekt! White power to you, fren.

>>519090201 (OP)
evil shit going on there that will never be in a history book

Daily methamphetimine injections give you a false sense of grandeur and superiority. Sorry your dear leader was a delusional speed freak. I’d re-examine my values if I was you desu

>>519095876
>Very simple. You don't have to be a genius to understand.
>Stalin planned to attack and conquer Europe. We have ridiculous amounts of hard evidence supporting this theory.

Why wouldn't he? He was the modern day Genghis Khan. Just because people were emotionally attached to WW2 as living history doesn't mean it wasn't history. The only thing that upsets me is why in the hell did the west side against Germany with the mongol hoards? It makes no sense. No logical sense at all. Unless you realize western people were subverted, controlled and brainwashed by the jew.

Never in the history of mankind has the west sided with the east against the Germanics. Hitler even preached peace to the west. Why is it the British empire backstabbed Germany? It again makes no logical rational sense whatsoever.

>>519090201 (OP)
Krup and Henry Ford ordered him to. They wanted to stop labor unions.

>>519096080
>>519093598
>>519093598
>>519093879
Oy vey yes see him coming down after a meth binge lol these kikes

>>519096080
>desu
Stopped reading. Don't you have chinese cartoons to fap to, weeb?

>>519096080
It's pointless, this is what lack of sex does to them.

A woman has never touched them and it's turned them into radicalised cult members that circlejerk each other on this incel board.

>>519091464
this book says his reason was lebensraum

>>519096590
No it does not.

>>519096723
>Hitler stated once again that Danzig was not his ultimate objective – that would be to secure Lebensraum in the east to feed Germany's eighty million inhabitants.

>>519090201 (OP)
Mommy issues. Hitler's mother died when he was 18.
Funny how hitler's whole life proved freud right. Freud wrote about mommy issues around 1900. Hitler sperged about not having a mom soon after.

>>519095629
The maginot line worked, what didn’t was sending most of the army to Belgium when the war began

It we had one massive maginot through Belgium with defense in depth it would have held

>>519096198
No, he wasn't. Khan, if it is to be believed, grew up in harsh conditions as a steppe raider and later horse warrior.
Stalin was just a bandit whose rise was thanks to jewish chaos and some jewish patronage.
>but he was antisemitic!
lol, sure, just like Putin today. This would actually be a far better, more fitting comparison.

I mean if you're making a case for the Russian horde simply getting the itch to plunder and rape from time to time, sure. But Genghis Khan wasn't a great man (if he existed at all, he might be a pastiche of several mostly-forgotten people with a dash of fantastic nonsense, just like Cesar, rabbi Jesus or Charlemagne). And no scion of Europe should see him in this light

>The only thing that upsets me is why in the hell did the west side against Germany with the mongol hoards? It makes no sense. No logical sense at all. Unless you realize western people were subverted, controlled and brainwashed by the jew.
Yes, this is what anti National Socialist brainwashing is supposed to do.
>At least he wasn't a NAZI!

>>519096519
according to good sources, Hitler did fuck around some. But he kept it very private, which is commendable.

>>519096590
>muh Lebensraum
low IQ interjection. It's just a concept uncucked White men used to talk about. What should they say instead?
>It's mighty fine we have so many healthy, stout Germans in the Reich. What a pity we can't ever get more living space. Whelp, I guess we just invent feminism to reduce our numbers, then. Jews unironically write about Lebensraum in their newspapers TODAY.

For uncucked, smart men it was clear Russia would always attack at some point. Seeing how Slavs are historically bad at managing their spaces and how they have been enslaved by bolshevik jews, why not save them, defend Europe from Stalin and gain Lebensraum for the Aryan race in one move? It's Sieg-Sieg-Sieg, as long as you do sieg, of course.

>>519090201 (OP)
>Germany's only oil was coming from Romania
>Soviets were being courted by Allies to fight both Germany and Japan, with increasing amounts of 'aid' being supplied
>Soviets annexed Bessarabia and Bukovina from Romania in 1940 (notice nobody talks about Soviet aggression during WW2)
>Germany realized Soviets were opportunists and just waiting for the right moment to switch sides and roll into the Romanian oil fields
>Germans pre-emptively invade, aiming to secure the oil-fields in the caucuses, invasion is a spectacular failure and Germany now fights on two fronts

Access to oil was also a major factor in the Japanese loss.

>>519093731
>Why did he invade Russia?
The English assassinated tsar Paul the first and put Alexander I on the throne
Alexander I was of course a pro anglo (NATO) shill and he broke all treaties and became the only supply Britain
Napoleon had to stop evil England at all cost to stop this horrible timeline from happening so he declared war on Alexander and tried to capture him but failed

>Was he fucking crazy?
Yes he lost his mind and became obsessed with capturing him
He also thought he wouldn’t burn down Moscow even though Alexander had been burning every city without a care so far

Napoleon should 100% have done a proper campaign occupying the Baltic Russia, taking Saint Petersburg and liberating the Russians from serfdom instead of just trying to run after Alexander Iin a straight line like a schizo

>>519094999
>>519095231
What does the word conspiracy theorist even mean?

It’s always used by the average karen as a slur, do you believe conspiracies don’t happen? They’re literally the most frequent way politics move forward

>>519090201 (OP)
He loved the Anglos so much he decided to go for the big dumb war rather than do Britbongcide.

Swift victories over France and Poland gave Hitler the idea he was actually commanding some super soldiers and was a military genius. So he though he could conquer just about anything. Well, he was wrong and it cost him his country and ultimately his life.

>>519096952
Both his parents died idiot. First his father then his mother. He was forced to become an orphan. Hitler wanted to be a comfy artist living in his mother's house but then she passed and he was a homeless begger. He didn't have the money to go into vocational school to get the proper education to be an architect. So he lived in hostiles and on the street doing grunt work and painting water colors on the side. This is when he came into contact with the communists and began to understand the forces that were forming to regime change Germany. Life was hard, hard back then.

It has nothing to do with having mommy issues but being born into a shitty life by circumstance. He just wanted to paint but the art school rejected him. He didn't want to be a government leech or deskjockey.

>>519097319
An imbecile that believes everything ppl say on a nazi board.

>>519090315
Well, not about. Original plan for Red Army rearmament with modern equipment was aimed at around 1950. So Hitler didn't attack because USSR was about to strike, but because it was a in a precarious position where a lot of older vehicles and arms were obsolete or just old and new stuff were just in the process of being minted.

To be fair without knowing about future nuclear bombs an attack by USSR on Eastern Europe in 1950-1952 was an almost sure thing.

>>519097187
Genghis Khan was a warlord and so was Stalin. An unchained ball of energy. The soviets mass wave attacks was a symbol of this energy. Just like Russia today. Attack and attack, loot, rape and pillage. Russia isn't stopping and remember these Mongols have nothing to live for at home so they are invading abroad.

>>519097746
>The soviets mass wave attacks
Never happened.

>>519097746
Genghis Khan was a fucking shepherd before fucktards stole his wife (twice) and almost made a slave out of him. He just fucking had enough and decided to make it everyone's problem.

>>519090315
This, listen to the Hitler-Mannerheim conversation.

https://youtu.be/oET1WaG5sFk

Also it was well known that USSR wanted to expand, and they did. They took over half of Europe during their invasion of Nazi Germany and then just kept and ruled over it. They were only stopped at the Iron Curtain because the US also invaded, otherwise all of Europe would've been USSR but instead only Eastern Europe was.

>>519097816
Of course they did. The concept of revolutionary guerilla warfare was born of communism. Mass human wave attacks. It defeated conventional warfare by surrounding and smothering the enemy.

>>519097958
>Mass human wave attacks.
Pure German propaganda. Repeating this lie will not make it true.

>>519097864
You'll get no sympathy from me about Genghis Khan. His stepp warriors burned, raped and slaughtered all in their path until Rome and Goths united to stop the Mongol empire.
>>519098040
It's true because we know it's true. The communists defeated the white army this way.

>>519098112
>It's true because we know it's true
Do you have any evidence of that?

>>519091213
This.
The Bolshevik revolution was planed to succeed in Russia and Germany.
The national socialist gained power to prevent the communist overtaking of Germany.
In the time after ww1 there were numerous Jewish Bolshevik revolution attempts in Germany.
The clash of both ideologies were inevitable.
And Stalin planed to attack Germany.
He build train tracks on the border in the size of German tracks…he was planing an offensive. Hitler just hit first.

Imagine the mass frontal wave attacks with a 2:1 troop disadvantage

>>519097447
He wasn't a begger, he received a decent orphans pension

>>519097711
>dismantling the secret, expensive, recently build defensive line
>building the biggest army of all time, consisting mostly of offensive units, in secret
>moving all troops to the front
>building insane amounts of special vehicles for an invasion operation (wheeled IFVs, ambhibious tanks)
>certifying hundreds of thousands (!) of infantrists for service as paratroopers...
>and hording one way gliders which won't even make it through the next winter - again, near the border
>increasing the army's size to a ludicrous amount which would have been only sustainable for 1-2 years
>handing out translation booklets with phrases like
>"where is the Bürgermeister? the Red Army will come soon"
I could go on but the evidence is incredible

>"lots of older vehicles"
The SU's equipment was top notch for the most part. It was an absence of training, the disregard of using or outfitting them correctly and the positioning (in a staging ground) that got them.

Russian never cease to amaze me with their demoralisation.

Rusbro:
Stalin was a bad man. He raped your ancestors, by proxy even physically, in a literal sense. The German army wanted to save you. Stalin made you into an Untermensch.

>>519098140
Yes it's called history and the reds even remained the Christian population center of Russia. Leningrad>Petrograd>St Petersberg.
>>519098243
It wasn't enough to live on and he had to sleep in hostiles.

>>519097447
>This is when he came into contact with the communists
He actually came into contact with the army. The army needed someone to run a right-wing government against the will of the people. Most germans were socialists back then.

>>519097958
>>519098040
the truth is somewhere in the middle.
"Mass attacks" or "human wave" attacks really happened rarely. But many standard strategies DID involve human wave attacks because there is nothing wrong with leveraging numbers, if done correctly.
This was a normal strategy in ww1 until the Germans developed stormtropper tactics.
(jewish)Isis routinely conducted Toyota wave attacks in the Levant.

A badly planned and conducted assault can absolutely look like a mass attack. Russians oftentimes had only numbers and were ill-trained which is tradition for a jew-led country. This can lead to something eerily similar to banzai charges.
Sieg Heil, friends.

>>519098476
No. This was before WW1.

>>519098187
nonsense

>>519094900
Romania was a hop skip and a jump away fron being invaded by the Soviets. A soviet invasion of Romania would have ended Germany faster than anything.

>>519098554
Nicholas deserved to go. He was a massive fuck-up. And the Japs defeated him in Korea. Took over his Trans-Siberian railway.

Why did he accept the banished jews from the Netherlands? Very little to be found out about that arrangement. He was a military fuck up. He wasnt this beacon of the russian aesthetic movement. He was weak and the jews sniffed it out. Because they catalogue their historic takeovers and have a playbook.

>>519098609
it gets even worse when you count all the foreign ss divisions and axis support on the east

>>519098311
>>519098554
Join him in hell, vermin

nazi germany was facing famine.
its economy rested on plundering other countries.
there's your germanoid miracle.

>>519099046
Hitler was practically a nigger running a gang instead of a country

not being able to take Moscow in 41 and Stalingrad in 42 when soviets were at a disadvantage both in troops and equipment sealed the deal already. Blitzkrieg failed because it needed a 3:1 advantage and carpet bombing of towns, Germans however gad only a 2:1 advantage and miscalculated their aviation impact

"Ruusian winter, meatwaves, lendlease" - those are all german rivisionist copes

>>519090201 (OP)
Wagner-esque hubris.
(If not using too many words)

>>519090201 (OP)
fascists are morons and never created anything great or lasting. Just nonstop embarrassment and failure.

>>519099244
Evil can never create, only corrupt

>>519098867
I agree, but it is interesting how his plea for help was squashed. By whom, actually? I guess the king would have agreed so it had to be some parlamentarinist bs.

>>519099029
Don'tcha wanna serve your (((country)))? Why not become a non-mass attack participant in the (((Jewkraine)))? C'mon, fight for (((Putin)))!

>>519091213
Nazis were equivalent of mujahideen in first half of XXth century and it bit west in the ass just as hard.
>>519090201 (OP)
>Was he fucking crazy?
Meth, not even once.

>>519099369
Don't you want to bite a bullet like your mustached chud leader did?

>>519099207
The winter came in early and severe and nobody could have predicted this. Seizing Moscow could have ended Stalin.
But the biggest factor was certainly the enormity of the Soviet (invasion) army, which was far bigger than anybody could have anticipated.
Who knows.

>>519097455
To be honest you learn more about the rise of the national socialists here then in school.
I remember I was taught that Hitler was an antisemit because a Jewish professor rejected him from art school or he got an std from a Jewish hooker…
Nobody mentioned that Germany was plagued by Jewish bolschevik revolutions.

>>519099490
>Nobody mentioned that Germany was plagued by Jewish bolschevik revolutions.
Because it wasn't. There was one revolution in 1918 and it was crushed and never resurged since. What did Hitler's rise to power 15 years later have to do with it exactly?

praise for other territory gains went to his head + he was just generally a wannabe warlord
it's a shame that an otherwise decent ideology got headed by such a moron

>>519090315
spbp
zigger troons will seethe

>>519090315
spbp

>>519099489
but up untill 43 or 44 or so the red army fought at a numerical disadvantage. It was just not enough to take strategic positions for the wehrmacht

>>519099371
>mujahideen
This is what Russians learn in school these days.
I sure hope that when you enlist, it makes the asshazing by Kyrgyzstani (patriot) orcs more pleasant.
>"it could"
>*THRUST*
>"have been"
>*THRUST*
>"worse"

>times his lament in-between thrusts

>*THRUST* "WecouldallbespeakingGerman!" *THRUST*

>>519090201 (OP)
hitler was literally injecting meth every single day for 2 years by that point and heroin on and off

>>519099606
WW2 was the continuation of WW1. And by the way the USSR was invading countries long before germany did to polen.

>>519090201 (OP)
the whole purpose of ww1/treaty of versailles was to carefully set the stage (political - social - economic) for the bavarian-soviet member, special agent hitler, to become the leader of germany and into destruction. all of it culminating im an effort to destroy the german people.
>bankers destroy economy and morals
>allow widespread dissemination of communist / jewish thought
>tptb allow chaos , then give people the option to voooote for a candidate that claims to be anti-chaos
>when the people need a leader, we will provide him

>>519100000
Piss off, chud

>>519099104
pretty much.
everywhere they went they palmed food, furniture, raw materials, gold, art.

Same in Kursk, at best the soviet army had a 2:1 artillery advantage. Hardly "meatwaves"

Stalingrad and Kursk were the two decisive soviet victories over the wehrmacht

>>519099840
Im glad we fought w u frens, too bad my country didn't get to kill as many gypsies as intended:/

>>519097455
Talk about a pliable and compliant definition
Really answering by not answering so you can fit a loosely defined label to any situation you want aren’t ya

>>519099606
Alone in Bavaria, where Hitler lived at that times, where several Bolshevik revolution attempts. 1918 by ((Kurt Eisner)),
Followed by ((Eugen Levine)) and as both failed a long underground resistance of communist subversion.
As welll as the Spartakusrevolution in Berlin 1919 and many others in other parts of Germany.
And most of the instigators where Jews and planed to integrate Germany into the Soviet Union.
The freicorps and later the nsdap stoped it.

>>519100053
Nope. And America fought the wrong enemy in WW2. The greatest evil during that time was communism. The USA and Germany prior to war breaking out in Europe were trading partners. American resources and German production. GM. Ford, Standard oil were all in buisness in Germany.

It was only political decisions in Washington that stopped buisness with Germany. Even during WW2 the US airforce bombed some American factories who refused to stop doing business with Germany kek.

>>519100334
How did failed revolutions in 1918 and 1919 justify Hitler's rise to power 15 years later?

>>519100199
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vienna_Award
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Craiova
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_Pact

>>519100471
We couldve negotiated those territories back "if" we won the war, we got most back even if we lost anyways

>>519099490
School is all lies, propaganda. They never taught us anything in American school about the evils of communism. It was just a footnote. The main teachings in school were about demonizing Germany, the holocaust, American victories, atomic bomb and so on. The mantra during that time was, "The end justifies the means". I never actually believed the right side won the war but i did understand the stronger one did. This isn't about "might makes right" but right makes right. Right thinking, right being, right doing. It doesn't take a genius to realize the brunt of the world attacked Germany. That doesn't make this world a good place to live in, it just means the jewish masses won.

>>519100538
the fucking germans took those territories away.
thank stalin for giving you transylvania.
roflmao romoids thinking germans were their friends.
baka

>>519090201 (OP)
Even NATO is not that crazy and uses stupid hohols to fuck with Russia.

>>519090201 (OP)
Less crazy than EU today since back then ruskies didn't have nukes.

>>519100592
shouldn't you be at the petrol line?

>>519093822
>It was an major railway junction linking the Caucasus with the rest of the Soviet Union
More than that it was the river that was crucial for bringing the oil up.

>>519090201 (OP)
He wanted to go for the oil and no uk

>>519100584
the commies weren't neither, i suggest u like at some pics/vids of Bucharest in the inter-war period n how the commies destroyed everything.

>>519100672
look*

>>519100431
He tried to gain power by his own failed Putsch in 1923.
The Bolshevik attemp to gain power over gemany didn’t stoped there it was a fight between both ideologies until Hitler gained absolute power and used it to imprison, deport or kill the Bolsheviks.

>side with unhinged total slav death moustachio
>lose war
>suffer consequences
>oy vey muffigin commies evil n shieeet
What causes this profound mental retardation?

>>519091213
literally JD Vance +20 years

>>519100875
Bolsheviks did not exist in Germany. Stop using words the meaning of which you do not know.

>>519100584
I'll take national socialism over bolshevism any day of the month. Actually I would give away half of romania to natsoc germans as part of a deal just to take over this embarrasing group of humans we call romanians. commies get the rope.

>>519100334
The soviet union used the working class people's of nations to overthrow their various governments in a revolutionary manner. They had agents with money who organized the voting disgruntled working class masses into voting out the local government and replacing them with puppets of Moscow using threat of violence or worse. This is why when taking power Hitler dissolved democracy in Germany.

This is also something they never taught us in school about why and how Hitler came to power. They never talk about the prelude to Hitler coming to power. Only the war years.

>>519090201 (OP)
>NatSoc stops communist takeover of Germany
>Russia falls to said takeover
>"Why did he attack the communists?"
The rape of history has been devastating to the world's ability to understand thing.

>>519100953
>Nationalbolschewismus ist die Bezeichnung einer politischen Strömung, die zur Zeit der Weimarer Republik eine Anlehnung des Deutschen Reiches an Sowjetrussland bzw. die Sowjetunion anstrebte und eine nationale Revolution, jedoch keine weltweite kommunistische Revolution forderte.

So Germany communists who want to unite Russian and Germany.

>>519100995
>we have to dissolve the parliament (we just have to ok?!)
>just right after the parliament voted Hitler into power

legit mental retardation

>>519100953
Moscows thugs did exist in Germany. Agents were sent to Germany to take control of the country for Moscow. The communist working class vs the brownshirts or ex paramilitary forces. In the beginning the communists had the advantage, especially in Berlin. The home of national socialism was Bavaria or rather Munich.

>>519100995
Or thought is about all the other communist revolutions all over Europe.
Italy, Spain, France and many more.

>>519100672
motherfucker, germany literally took away ardeal, south dobrogea and basarabia.
they took our oil.
and antonescu sent hundreds of thousands of romanians to fucking russia to die because he wanted the territory back.
the territory that germany took away.

fucking romoids

>>519100977
>I'll take national socialism over bolshevism any day of the month
it's the same shit

>>519101147
Hitler's party used the burning of the Reichstag to create a dictatorship. Before the burning of the government building Hitler's national socialist party did not hold a majority in government. Hitler despised his coalition partners and quickly outmaneuvered them to create a dictatorship.

>>519090315
>>519092841
>Russia was about to attack, simple as.
So he decided to handicap himself by attacking first instead of having a defensive advantage? Maybe the Jews are right, and he really was a brainlet who got lucky for a time.

>>519094630
so he preemptively attacked to be certain that he woould be crushed by the soviet hoard.

>>519090201 (OP)
>The USSR was about to invade
Literally not a shred of evidence for this
>Lebensraum
Could have stopped at Ukraine
>Resources
Hitler personally stalled the Caucasus advance to the Baku oil fields (Directive 45)
Hitler also denied support to Rommel when he could easily have advanced up to Iraq

The actual answer is that Hitler was a zionist puppet whose party and inner circle were completely infiltrated and captured by its declared enemies (and former supporters), zionist jews and judeo-bolsheviks
So the drugged up puppet Hitler intervened with the most retarded Directives in military history, whenever Germany threatened to gain a decisive advantage (Dunkirk, Egypt, Moscow, Caucasus)

>>519101348
>>519101326
>Another 90 iq romanian

ALL of Romania should be depopulated and colonized with Germans. Ideally prussians,people from Baden-Wurttemberg and saxons

>>519100408
Do you have any replies that aren’t logical fallacies?

I’m not even a Nazi I’m just making fun of the way you use made up words but can’t even give a definition for them
Because to you words are a vibe not proper well defined concepts with precise meaning

>>519101352
>Hitler's national socialist party did not hold a majority in government.

their coalition did

>>519101414
>ALL of Romania should be depopulated and colonized with retards who brings millions of arabs ,blacks, close their nuclear power plants and put solar panels where there is no sun

ftfy

>>519101348
No. National socialism never took away the people's right's to private property. In fact the draconian policies such as forcing women into the workforce to free men up for the armed forces were not implemented in Germany up until 1943 when the allies did so immediately at the start of WW2. Germany was defacto geared to peace until Goebbels's total war speech around 1943.

So when you say national socialism and Stalinsm are the same. You would be wrong, dead wrong. The collectivization of the soviet union was never implemented into Germany. That's why the reds are inhumane devils who starve, exterminate people who refuse to become bitch slaves to the state.

>>519090201 (OP)
He wanted the oil fields and also he was ideologically obligated to oppose communism plus it was a classic "hit or be hit scenario" -- it was inevitable that these two forces would inevitably collide. Finally, the war in Europe was well under control by this point.
The real inexplicable strategic decision of Hitler was to declare war on America, which almost certainly lost him the war. There was absolutely no way Germany could take on the USSR and the USA at the same time. The USA wasn't in a rush to go to war with Germany again...it would have made more sense to focus all energies on defeating the USSR and then clean up elsewhere. The only reason the Soviets won on the eastern front is because the US diverted Germany on two other fronts (France and Italy)

>>519101414
Be honest, what are you?

>>519101493
Yes but with a coalition government which Hitler despised. I worded that wrong. The NSDAP wanted total control of the government themselves.

He should've built a wall. Europe would be Rome II by now.

>>519101561
How many kids died in the Hospital in Iasi? Then theres pic related and the dozens of cases of embezzlement,the fact that only 40% of Romania has sewers and a decent sewage system,the grocery prices and the 41% of gen Z who are functionally illiterate,maybe also the 15-20% of gen Z (and slightly older) girls who dont have a fucking job past 20 and somehow they manage to survive like that until 30 while doing NOTHING. Fuck them and whoever gives them free accommodation,money,internet etc.

Bonus: most people (including older generations) look like gypsies and shitskins already and talk like them so theres no need for migrants

>>519101414
>all of Romania should be depopulated and colonized with Germans

Congrats on survivng the abortion your mother so obviously attempted to carry out.
We are in the EU, please move to fucking Berlin already

>>519101782
>40%
any sources on this?
eram pe la o comuna/sat de langa orasul meu n they all had utilities

>>519101682
Australian/Canadian of greek and Galician-Lodomerian (Slavic+German) stock

>>519101826
Youre all fucking gypsies its not even funny. Germans should take austria and then send 20 million of their people right in to colonize. Maybe theyll outbreed the shitskins such as yourseld

>>519101970
feels like r/Romania posts w all the "muh bad that bad this"

>>519101899
În 2023, aproximativ 60,1% din populația României era conectată la sistemele de canalizare, conform Digi24. În 2022, un studiu al INS menționa că doar 59,2% din populație era conectată la rețeaua de canalizare, amintind totodată că în mediul urban

>Inb4 doesnt accept the source.

Just admit it. Nothing. NOTHING of value came out of this country and especially not from the orangutans who dont wash themselves from outside the larger cities. Disgusting "people". No village in Germany is like that. And they all contribute and produce a lot to the EU and globally

>>519102059
>no village in Germany is like that
How comes my village looks good n has all the basic utilities? asa pot si eu sa dau cherrypick

>>519101970
Germans are being outbred in fucking Germany you dumb fucking uneducated imbecile. Germany is in an economical slump for years you fucking retard.

Again, the best part of living in the EU is that degenerate cargocultist fucks like you can fuck off and polute the genepool of some western shithole.

>>519102148
idk maybe i live in a bubble but its a rlly comfy NEET one

>>519102040
No. r/Romania is for the people who want more boys from the countryside ro be turned into transgenders. There even was an announcement on facebook about "spreading awareness" on "trans issues" on facebook set to take place somewhere in rural romania. The only difference is that the people there are too dumb malnourished lazy etc to even think about being trans.

That subreddit is also for those who LOVE the mentally disabled president that we have and his stupid government kr maybe the woman who fucked him for prestige and status and doesnt appear to love him and who looks awfully inbred. Like holy shit. And they will never stop with their "miștocareala" (a word that doesnt exist in english btw). So the same bunch of brain dead morons.

>>519101715
No you didn't word it wrongly
You said the soviets influenced workers into voting for the commies. But that's horseshit, KPD was at 12% and at no point in time really a political threat worth dissolving the reichstag over

>>519102153
Germany needs foreign labor to maintain pensions for their elderly population. Not enough births in Germany to maintain the country. Of course this foreign labor is not uneducated. Germany is the economic powerhouse of Europe and people from all over the world go there to make money. They are basically copying America using wealth as an incentive.

>>519102227
This is we should've killed all gypsies back in WW2, i only care abt who's white n who's not, not that they live in a rular or urban area, etc etc

>>519101970
HGNNNNNNNNNN

>>519102332
>This is we should've killed all gypsies back in WW2
Why the fuck didn’t you

Why the fuck have you not killed gypsies in the last 600 years
Why hasn’t Vlad tepes basarab killed the gypsies, since he’s kind of the best your country ever produced

>>519102241
Because Hitler wanted total power. And the reason why the communists lost voting power was the brown shirts beat them back, literally. Like wolves. Like throwing themselves onto the communists in a bloody rage. Hitler's brownshirts were not namby pambies. They were drunken brawlers.

>>519102395
the elite n political class was n still is too cucked

>>519100000
checked

>>519102148
Because youve never had any mental health issues and gone to Socola or Obregia or the other 4 places that have been sanctioned for human rights abuse

Because you never went to a clinic,hospital with health issues and met doctors who can barely do anything. I had a surgery class and the doctor (primary care consultant) told us in Romania they mostly get stage III cancers because of lack of awareness

Or the awful schools full of directors and teachers who instead of teaching class are in Egypt or somewhere else getting railed under a table (which happened to me) all of this while having politicians wanting to raise their pay even more!
Have you been to that neighbourhood in Bucharest where it said "we sell apartments and want a neighbourhood of teachers and doctors"? As if we are fucking equal!!!!
And everyone is a narcissist in this country. They all shit gold and think theyre the best. Ego syntonic BS. I dont have time for proving to you that I am worthy to give you my opinion without being insulted.

>>519090401
I don't feel appreciated by other axis members.

>>519102447
Hospitals in my city r rlly good, again ig im living in a bubble but that's my personal experience, i live in the western side of the country so idk abt the other parts..

>>519102153
At least in Germany one does something productive. We all know people in Romania cut corners. Youre not talking to a 15 year old you can fool. Ive probably seen more of this country than you have in terms of cities (that Ive lived in). Nothing is produced. Nothing is discovered. Everyone thinks hes a genius and comes with new theories and BS like that to sound pretentious. Worse than Sam Vaknin. At least that guy is funny.

>>519102249
people from all over the world go there to take advantage of their generous welfare programs. People from eastern europe instead went there to get a higher wages and living standards for the same work they did back home.
But.............. Unsurprisingly, people that chose to remain here and not be parasytes actually ended up better off.

>>519102447
I live in a medium sized city in Ardeal and also have a house in a vilage near by. Whenever I went to Bucharest it felt like going in a shithole safari. dont generalize the whole country because of that particular dumpster. Also, you shouldnt have mental issues you weak faggot.

>>519090201 (OP)
Further south oil fields and soviets were incapable largely. he bit off more than he could chew. He should have beelined for Moscow , while some divisions handled the Soviet prisoners rather than slowing down. Front was far too wide and he didn’t engage in limited war but total. If they wouldn’t give up Moscow then raise it withdraw west and create new front from Leningrad in north to Kyiv in west

>>519102623
Germany is like a fish tank today with a massive aging population. Japan too. Losing a world war will do that.

>>519102541
just like in the countries, i never understood this self hate abt the country, all the situation that u told me can n happened in other countries too,

>>519090201 (OP)
He was a commie and commies are nuts. He was a commie and commies are nuts. He was a commie and commies are nuts. He was a commie and commies are nuts. He was a commie and commies are nuts.

>>519102535
You also have a support network. Many people do not. Ive never been there but im sure theres many hungarians especially in Oradea

>>519102689
situations**

>>519102707
I live in Timisoara.

>>519101782
>whataboutism
what does that have to do with germanoids?
she died because her dumbass husband wanted 6 kids. and the intervention to save her life meant that she wouldn't be able to have anymore romoidlets.
typical romoid retardation.
also she was a police front hole. same as her husband.
I feel no pity for anti romanian policeoids.

>>519102623
>Medium size city

Good luck with job opportunities. Everyone moves out of Deva and Bistrita. The other cities are relatively large. Still the issues persist. And theres the pocaiti and baptists whom i cant stand looking at.

>>519102535
Well, he was a politician, and as such, he was a moron.

>>519102423
>the elite n political class was n still is too cucked

Vlad the fucking IMPALER tepes was too cucked?
Your literal Nazi puppet regime was too cucked?

Are we talking about the same gypsies who get 95% of their income through petty crime (that’s not some bigoted baseless accusation, people actually studied where the money of the global gypsy community came from and concluded 95% came from crime. Gypsies have religious beliefs that doing honest work is evil)

Romanians are truly hopeless
Indian invaders who contribute nothing and just steal, and in 600 years even under brutal tyrants (based) you don’t get rid of them
Unhinged.

>>519102689
>>519102741
Pentru ca m-am saturat de toti tiganii cu gura mare care se cred smecheri si ca le stiu pe toate si de faptul ca nu avem scoli mai bune sa avem recunoastere sa plecam. Tot se va gasi vreun prost sa ii educe,imbrace si sa ii hraneasca pe toti cocalarii si toate limbistele

>>519102932
Well "if" a world war will happen or sum, ill get the chance to eradicate them so theres that, i was gonna say smth else but i dont wanna get flagged.

>>519102779
Because medically anything the husband (or she) says should be cancelled by the doctor's obligation to keep them alive. Otherwise its not ethical i dont care what they work as. I hate police too. Hell i wouldve let her to die,thats why im not a surgeon but the sheer stupidity of those 2 people one of whom died is outstanding. Like legit are they retarded and never heard of surrogates? Since when did the fashion of having 6 kids even emerge in romania

>>519102939
That's why we need a RACE WAR.

>>519102809
I have my own businesses where i make enough to consider reinvesting and i ave an employee that i pay 5500 lei net a month plus some bonuses and he makes another 6000 in tips per month.

>>519102939
In the age of the internet, where you have acces to all the information you may ever want, you have to be a complete retard to depend on schools. Whats stoping you or anybody to learn shit on their own?

>>519090201 (OP)
hitler believed that germany lost wwi because germany didn't have enough resources. and he's right.
so hitler wanted to colonize the soviet union and steal the soviet union's resources which were ample
he also wanted to enslave some of the slavic peoples but murder most of them

>>519103027
that's all it needs to happen in order to get rid of them once and for all, everything will go into total anarchy

>>519103070
Yes but plotwist Russia or the soviet union became even more radicalized than Germany did after losing WW1. So the resources he needed and wanted were gatekept by a bigger and even more sinister regime.

This world is a freaking joke. Like seriously it is satan's playground. You had Germanic unity and the you the United Slavic States Russia. Which was massive. And the USSR was what created fascism in the first place. You don't have fascism without an us vs a them. Prior to communism and fascism it was imperialism like kings, queens, emperors and the like. So the communists overthrew the monarchy which allowed Hitler and his brownshits a space to fill their own government.

Supposedly, because he feared Russia would block access to oil from Romania otherwise.

Source: The recording of him talking with Mannerheim in Finland (June 4th, 1942).
This one is old and verified, so it's not AI slop.

>>519103046
the tards put themselves in a situation where it lead to something much worse.
if you have a mole and I tell you that it needs to be taken out and you refuse.... and then you get cancer and die.
then how is that my fault.
typical romoid blaming instead of thinking.

>>519103047
Its never gonna happen

>>519103049

Because I dont buy and sell stupid shit. Or fix cars. Even for that you need certifications. I have a medical degree and I can work on my own but Id rather work at someone else's practice. 6000 lei is a pathetic salary yet its as much as quite a few people with PhD/MD/DMD level education do. Thats awful. Its not the same in other countries.

You probably do something related to law and notarial work. Never liked anything pertaining to law (or law).

>>519103400
wym its never gonna happen?

>>519103400
thats 11.500 for him. See? thats why you live like shit, cause you don't have reading comprehension and/or math skills.
You can live a very good life in romania if you dont mind working for it and have at least a 3 digit IQ.
What kind of medical degree do you have that you dont make at least 25k a month? are you some sort of lazy dental assistant?

>>519090286
most retarded take on ww2 ever
>>519090315
this

>>519091282
The millions of troops captured and killed that were caught off guard in the middle of massing at the border for an attacks.

>>519104559
>for an attacks
Literally pulled out of your fat ass
It made sense for the USSR to fortify its western borders in response to German buildup
It did not make sense to invade Germany when most top officers had just been purged, and the invasion of tiny Finland had been very costly already
USSR was in no position to invade Europe, and it would certainly have ended in disaster for them

>>519104878
They got rolled over specifically because they were not in defensive positions.

Going to leave this here:

The Jewish developed nuclear bomb was meant to be dropped on Europe, not Japan. Even if Germany prevailed in the East there would not have been an end to the war.
The long range B-36 and Manhattan Project were developed in tandem predating US entry into the war.
>The design of the B-36 can be traced to early 1941, prior to the entry of the United States into World War II. At the time, Britain was at risk of falling to the Nazi "Blitz" attacks, making strategic bombing attacks by the United States Army Air Corps (USAAC) against Germany impossible with the aircraft available.[2]

>The United States would need a new bomber to reach Europe and return to bases in North America,[3]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convair_B-36_Peacemaker

>In August 1939, Szilard and fellow Hungarian-born physicist Eugene Wigner drafted the Einstein–Szilard letter, which warned of the potential development of "extremely powerful bombs of a new type". It urged the United States to acquire stockpiles of uranium ore and accelerate the research of Enrico Fermi and others into nuclear chain reactions. They had it signed by Albert Einstein and delivered to President Franklin D. Roosevelt.[4]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhattan_Project

>>519090286
fpbp, ignore the shills. They actually believe history is spontaneous. Pity them.

>>519090315
The soviets weren't planning an attack, and Stalin actually got surprised by the invasion. HOWEVER, Hittler and some generals actually believed Stalin was preparing for an attack.

>>519104983
FFS. Jews really are "God's Chosen".

>>519090201 (OP)
You seriously just asked if a leftard was crazy?

>>519090286
These days I ignore the first reply to every thread because its always some kike bait poster

>>519090489
>>519093598
Do you think maybe Germany could be saved after all and rise to greatness again if someone were to introduce the current chancellor Merz and his minister to medical grade 98% purity Pervitin?

>>519100000
It’s somehow only bad when Germany does it. Also, why is Turkey in NATO if WWII is the continuation of WWI? Seriously, why is turkey in NATO? Do we need to ask our leaders why the fuck Turkey is in NATO? Historically speaking.

>>519100000
Any good books on the USSR taking over all those cunts? Cheers cunt

>>519106085
Conquered

>>519106085
It's because the soviet government was jewish. People seem to be memory holed about this fact. The USSR was expelled from the league of nations but what does that even do? No military action was taken against the USSR because it never traded with the capitalist west anyway. No direct military action was taken against the USSR for its invasion of Finland, Ukraine, Baltics. Even though the west sided with the white army during the october civil war no actual western forces helped defeat the soviets. It's pure hypocrisy.
>>519106176
Probably but i don't read non revisionist literature. It just repeats false facts as evidence in a sort of incestual plagiarism. And i'm not female just not a dickhead.

>>519105691
As if he isn't already boofin' it in serious quantities.

This thread took a slump with all the Romanian infighting.
Guys, most of us are all White here, jidf jews, jeets and demoralised Slav (who desperately want to be Untermenschen) bros notwithstanding.
Romanians are fine, all Aryan Europeans are an amazing race and we deserve National Socialism to fix our countries.

>>519106576
I was asking about quality books relating to the USSR expansion. I have no idea how they, say, took control of Kazakhstan. Were the Mongols included? See, I don't know shit. Anyone?

>>519106827
The crappy low-purity coke laced with detergent and coffeine powder that Macron always brings to the G8 summits for Merz and his buddies doesn't count. They need the REAL shit, only German-made original brand Pervitin will do the trick

>>519107015
Not sure. No historians from my understand really focus on the USSR. They are really stingy with their achieves. A lot of bad history and shitty propaganda in that country.

>>519107330
Well, there's always the hope that Merz ODs because FDP party commissar Martin Neumaier sprinkled some special ingredients on the powder.

>>519090201 (OP)
1.bolshewiks sought to take over europe
2. russia proved itself unstable in ww1 & surrendered prematurely (brest litovsk)
3. hitler prolly didnt expect the allies to support the russians with equipment & resources via lend-lease (like belgium did with planes in ww1) pre official war declaratio, hitler thought england would be on his side, mein kampf clearly states, war against russia would only be possible with england as an ally & vice versa, england would only be subdues with russia as an ally

>>519090286
thats bs, christianity primarily catholicism brainwashing was way more prevalent before hitler & jews worhipped as gods chosen while today people are more educated & dont buy the narrative, jews were more powerful also (many european cities had ghettos, "Judengassen", basically whole neighborhoods being jewish, deportations udner hitler got rid of those for good, everyone talks about the "holocaust" but forget what the removals of the cancer from our home nations actually achieved), they fled to the usa & rule the world from there today (hence why americans worship them today). you have no idea, either historically illiterate or shill. jews dont even necessarily need israel, they lived amongst the peoples for millenia & are just fine without it.
if you read the sources you get a clear picture of how different the european sphere was before ww2.

>>519090201 (OP)
they would not let hitler any other option, anglos wanted germany dead as a new economical competition on mainland europe.

What England does not achieve in this war, it will strive for in a second, and if necessary, in a third and fourth; it will certainly not give up, and peace will be just as welcome and useful to its goal as war
[...]
If self-abasement is to be regarded as suicide, then the humiliation of another can also be planned in such a way that it amounts to murder: that is what England intends to do to Germany. It does not want to kill, but to extinguish the inner light of life; to wean the nation off ambition - and with it its honour; to break the wings of its will - and thereby rob it of its dignity.

[...]
It is known - I hope at least - that it has finally succeeded in conveying to the Germans the news that leading circles have long resisted spreading - it is therefore known that Germany's enemies are pursuing the plan - ideal and power - to finally break Germany's strength; [...] the coming peace should serve to complete this work. In this way the Germans are to be crushed - so that they never rise again; the Germans can then continue to serve the ruling English and Americans as industrious slaves as scholars, waiters, chemists, etc. Our enemies see the Germans as the born destroyers of their method of civilization, the all-powerful Mammon, and they know that this is a fight to the death! England is pursuing [...] the plan to become master of the world, to create a world monopoly for itself: it has destroyed or weakened into submission every state that threatened this plan; now it is Germany's turn; the hotheads demand its complete destruction, the leading politicians declare that they will be content with permanent weakening, with the reduction of Germany to the level of a Central European Spain.

Houston Stewart Chamberlain, England & Germany, 1914

>>519109778
german original:

Was England in diesem Kriege nicht erreicht, wird es in einem zweiten, und wenn es not tut, in einem dritten und vierten erstreben ; es läßt sicher nicht nach, und Friede wird seinem Ziele ebenso willkommen und dienlich sein wie Krieg
[...]
Ist die Selbsterniedrigung gleich Selbstmord zu achten, so kann auch das Erniedrigen eines Andern derart geplant sein, daß es einem Mord gleichkommt: das ist's, was England an Deut schland vorhat. Töten will es nicht, aber das innere Lebenslicht auslöschen; der Nation den Ehrgeiz abgewöhnen — und mit ihm die Ehre; ihr den Flügel schlag des Wollens brechen - und damit die Würde rauben.
[...]
Man weiß - ich hoffe wenigstens, daß es endlich gelungen ist, den Deutschen die Kunde zu vermitteln, gegen deren Verbreitung führende Kreise sich lange sträubten — man weiß also, daß Deutschlands Feinde den Plan Ideal und Macht - verfolgen, die Kraft Deutschlands endgültig zu brechen; [...] der Vollendung dieses Werkes soll der kommende Friede dienen. Auf diese Weise soll das Deutsche zermalmt werden — auf daß es nie wieder erstehe; der Deutsche mag dann weiter als emsiger Sklave den herrschenden Engländern und Amerikanern als Gelehrter, Kellner, Chemiker usw. dienen. So genau empfinden unsere Feinde das Deutsche als den geborenen Zerstörer ihrer Zivilisationsmethode des allbeherrschenden Mammons, so genau wissen sie, daß es einen Kampf auf Leben und Tod gilt! England verfolgt [...] den Plan, Herr der Welt zu werden, sich ein Weltmonopol zu schaffen: es hat jeden Staat zerstört oder bis zur Gefügigkeit geschwächt, der diesen Plan gefährdete ; jetzt ist Deutschland an der Reihe ; die Heiß sporne verlangen de s sen gänzliche Zerstörung, die leitenden Politiker erklären, sich mit der dauernden Schwächung begnügen zu wollen, mit der Herabsetzung Deutschlands auf den Stand eines mitteleuropäi schen Spaniens.

Houston Stewart Chamberlain, Deutschland und England

>>519090315
>>519090201 (OP)
hitler did nothing wrong.

>>519090391
they were faggot, they announced it multiple times in their writings (marx, das kapital) also takeover attempt in 1919 under rosa luxemburg which faiuled now the russian military fist from russia had to help out. further all the small sattelite states russia annexed after the war are a clear sign of their expansionist ambitions. russian troops were exhausted in the east so it was merely a phyrric victory, they lost the momentum & could not take the biugger nations so had to make due with the consolation prize.

>>519091332
>oy vey the germans want to take my turf!

>>519109697
dude, we consider it a service to the community but jidf jeets often get their money for reacts.
Just laugh at them without quoting, the idea that Hitler was a secret agent is flat earth type of nonsense even most normies wouldn't buy into.

>>519107015
Most central Asians are so low trust they didn't had to experience a "revolution". In most parts of the world, a politician is seen as a natural huckster, corrupt by nature, a PR spokesperson for the real elite, a pseudo jew, if you want.
Kazahkstan, Mongolia etc had some interesting battles where it was understood by the population that it was purely about power. These were parts of the SU where the sham elections produced results like
>the communist party candidate won with 99,8% of the vote.

>>519091464
irving is a fraud, so are goebbel diaries & tabletalks. irving claims that mein kampf is not a reliable source & that hitlers supposed second book, that was "found" by a jew after the war, is the actual reflection of hitlers worldview. tabletalks were supposedly written down by a secretary after hitler hour-long teahouse sessions & signed by martin borman, a sketchy figure, so in any case not a reliable source by any means. goebbels diaries were found by irving in the russian archives because the russians could not get their hands on a microfilm scanner lol. everything the russians could get their hands on from hitler & his surroundings they analyzed to no end with all sorts of methods, every burnt corpse, every tiny bit of paper found in the führerbunker, what irving claims is sheer lunacy.

>>519090201 (OP)
Because he was a mentally ill inbred kike

>>519110425
>because the russians could not get their hands on a microfilm scanner lol
sounds so believable

>>519090201 (OP)
Weird how he made this sudden and idiotic move, and then proceeded to triple, quadruple down on bad decisions while he was riding so high.
It's almost like someone noticed he may have had too many advantages stacked and needed to nerf him down so he could be easier for the other faggot western countries to take on fairly.

>>519091624
why would jews join an organization that is hostile to them? if you cant beat them -join them to subvert their efforts, better have a jew do a lukewarm job than have a fanatical natsoc fill the position, its not that complicated, like espionage:

Hitler is being quoted in Dietrich Eckhart, Bolshevism From Moses To Lenin, 1924:

"Every time new and promising opportunities for meddling have arisen," he brought out, "the Jew has been immediately involved. He has demonstrated an uncanny ability to sniff out like a bloodhound anything which was dangerous to him. Having found it, he uses all his cunning to get at it, to divert it, to change its nature, or, at least, to deflect its point from its goal. Schopenhauer called the Jew 'the dregs of mankind,' 'a beast,' 'the great master of the lie.' How does the Jew respond? He establishes a Schopenhauer Society. Likewise, the Kant Society in his work, in spite of the fact that -- or, rather, because -- Kant summarily declared the Jewish people to be a 'nation of swindlers.' The same with the Goethe Society. 'We tolerate no Jews among us,' said Goethe. 'Their religion permits them to rob non-Jews,' he wrote. 'This crafty race has one great principle: as long as order prevails, there is nothing to be gained,' he continued. He categorically emphasized: 'I refrain from all cooperation with Jews and their accomplices. All in vain; the Jewish Goethe Society is still there. It would be there even if he himself had expressly forbidden such knavery."
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>>519090201 (OP).

He invaded Russia, and no he wasn't crazy.

I mean... if Germany did it well in the Eastern Front a World War ago, of course he knew there was a chance that the Soviets capitulate and do not learn anything.

>>519110640
german original:

Hitler wird zitiert in 'Bolschewismus von Moses bis Lenin', von Dietrich Eckart und Adolf Hitler, 1924:

"Noch jederzeit," holte er aus, "war der Jude sofort auf dem Plan, wenn es galt, etwas Neues von Bedeutung zu vermanschen. Das ihm Gefährliche witterte er wie ein Schweißhund, und dann sucht er ihm mit allen Listen beizukommen. Verdrehen, etwas anderes daraus machen, oder wenigstens die Spitze umbiegen, ist sein Ziel. Schopenhauer hat ihn 'Abschaum der Menschheit', hat ihn 'Vieh', hat ihn 'großen Meister im Lügen' genannt – was tut er? Er gründet eine Schopenhauer-Gesellschaft. Auch die Kant-Gesellschaft ist sein Werk, trotzdem oder vielmehr weil Kant das jüdische Volk summarisch für eine 'Nation von Betrügern' erklärt. Dasselbe mit der Goethe-Gesellschaft. 'Wir dulden keinen Juden unter uns', sagt Goethe. 'Sie haben einen Glauben, der sie berechtiget, die Fremden zu berauben,' dichtet er. 'Und dieses schlaue Volk sieht einen Weg nur offen: solang die Ordnung steht, solang hat's nichts zu hoffen,' fährt er fort. Kategorisch betont er: 'Ich enthalte mich aller Teilnahme an Juden und Judengenossen. Umsonst. Die jüdische Goethe-Gesellschaft ist da. Und sie wäre da, auch wenn er sich eine solche ausdrücklich als Lumperei verboten hätte."

>>519110489
is this irony?

>>519090391
Russia had amassed the largest army of all time on their western border and were building rail lines in the european gauge instead of their own soviet gauge.

>>519090549
>Russia was seen as a weak country that would fall quickly.
It explicitly was not seen that way by the Germans. It was a major threat and they had to react immediately because they knew the Soviets would defeat them if they were allowed to finish mobilizing. The only resource the Germans needed was the oil already in their posession which they knew the Soviets wanted to seize.

>>519092235
>why not build defenses and let them attack
Because the Germans knew they would not be able to defeat the Soviets if the Soviets were allowed to mobilize. Once the Soviets decided on war, Germany's only hope of victory was to blitz to Moscow or (maybe) take Stalingrad. The speeches given to troops all explicitly discussed the fact that Barbarossa was a desperate measure. This was a contributing factor to the SS' fighting spirit after the no step back order at Stalingrad. In their minds, explicitly, it was an existential battle in an existential war.

>>519090489
>Amphetamines make you overestimate your abilities
Speeches by Germans leading into Barbarossa explicitly stated this was a hail mary since the only way to win was to blitz before Russia was ready.

>>519092606
>he needed to capture the land and resources of the east, which was always a goal of national socialism to begin with.
The only thing Hitler needed East of Germany were the oil fields that he already had and which the Soviets intended to seize. Barbarossa was a response to the Soviets amassing a fuckhuge army. Would the Europeans have invaded after establishing an EU? Probably, but for reasons of conquest, not as a necessity for the existence of Europe.

>>519101357
>defensive advantage?
Defending is not a universal advantage. Allowing your opponent to attack on their own terms instead of attacking on your terms is retarded.

>>519090201 (OP)
He was put in power by wall street to destroy communism.
He tried to fool them but they pressured him, so he had no choice than to obey.

>>519110682
It actually is. Believing that ruskies somehow didn't have microfilm scanner while having hundreds of satellites with photo equipment in orbit like c'mon.

>>519090286
His goal was to gather all the Jews and send them to Israel so they can become the population of the Jewish state.
And as a second goal to destroy communism.

>>519090697
All true
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtqfIjK1GAc

>>519091213
She is not the mastermind behind ukr-rus war. The master mind was zbiegnev brjejinski.
All written in his book the grand chessboard.

>>519104878
russians established airstrips & such, clear signs of an offensive war, not trenches & bunkers. hitler caught them with their pants down.

>>519090315
>Simple as
>tf
>tp
This poster is a jew

>>519093417
Putin is also Jewish !
https://strawpoll.com/e7ZJablGMg3

>>519104878
>It did not make sense to invade Germany when most top officers had just been purged
stalin purged the old gang of officers & leadership who still were aligned with the tzar & monarchy & replaced it with subhuman mongol bastards who were inexperienced but ideologically sound for the revolutionary war. what is a professional worth who does not align with your worldview at all?

"Bolshevism is the revolt of the Mongol strain against the Nordic cultural forms. It is the longing for the steppes and the hatred of the nomad for the roots of personality, signifying an attempt to cast off Europe as a whole. The eastern Baltic race, which has many poetic gifts, shows itself, mixed as it is with a Mongol element, to be pliant clay either in the hands of Nordic leadership or under Jewish and Mongol tyrants. It sings and dances, but as easily murders and ravages. It is capable of true devotion, but once the restraints of discipline are removed it can become uninhibitedly treacherous until it is constrained by the imposition of new forms, even if they are tyrannical in nature. If anywhere, it is in the east that the profound truths of racially based historical interpretation are to be found. But also revealed is the great hour of peril in which the Nordic essence now finds itself. Forces eating away at the inside of every land, together with the aroused sewage of the lower depths, obligate everyone concerned about the total culture of Europe to create a solid front of Nordic destiny which will cut across the artificial confrontation of victors and vanquished of the Great War."

Rosenberg, Alfred; The Myth of the 20th Century, 1930

>>519111218
german original:

Der Bolschewismus bedeutet die Empörung des Mongoliden gegen nordische Kulturformen, ist der Wunsch nach der Steppe, ist der Haß des Nomaden gegen Persönlichkeitswurzel, bedeutet den Versuch, Europa überhaupt abzuwerfen. Die mit vielen poetischen Gaben bedachte ostbaltische Rasse erweist sich bei mongolider Durchsetzung - als schmiegsamer Ton in der Hand nordischer Führer oder jüdischer oder mongolischer Tyrannen. Sie singt und tanzt, aber mordet und tobt zugleich; sie ist treu ergeben, aber beim Abstreifen locker werdender Formen hemmungslos verräterisch. Bis sie in neue Formen, und seien sie tyrannischster Art, gezwungen wird. Wenn irgendwo, so zeigt sich im Osten die tiefe Wahrheit heutiger rassisch gebundener Geschichtsbetrachtung, aber zugleich die große Stunde der Gefahr, in der sich bereits die Substanz der nordischen Rasse befindet. Diese im Inneren jedes Landes nagenden Kräfte und die aufgerührten Fluten der Unterwelt ergeben für jeden um die Gesamtkultur Europas Besorgten eine einheitliche Front nordischer Schicksalsverbundenheit, die quer hindurchgeht durch die heutige sogenannte Front der Sieger und der Besiegten des Weltkrieges [...].

Rosenberg, Alfred; Mythus des XX. Jahrhunderts, 1930

>>519090697
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ardFInsDIs

>>519111348
jews mix with the goyim to water down their more prominent features & to wear european features like a mask over their jewish core. racemixing as a weapon, truly devilish.

>>519111431
'He (the jew) occasionally bestowed one of his female offspring on an influential Christian, but the racial stock of his male descendants was always preserved unmixed on principle. He poisoned the blood of others, but preserved his own blood unadulterated. The Jew scarcely ever married a Christian girl, but the Christian took a Jewess to wife. The mongrels that were the issue of this latter union always took after the Jewish side.'

Adolf Hilter, Mein Kampf
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Houston Stewart Chamberlain, who Hitler admired and frequently quoted in Mein Kampf writes about that topic:

'Consider with what mastery they (the jews) use the law of blood to extend their power: the principal stem remains spotless, not a drop of strange blood comes in; as it stands in the Thora, “A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the Lord; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the Lord“ (Deuteronomy xxiii. 2); in the meantime, however, thousands of side branches are cut off and employed to infect the Indo-Europeans with Jewish blood. If that were to go on for a few centuries, there would be in Europe only one single people of pure race, that of the Jews, all the rest would be a herd of pseudo-Hebraic mestizos, a people beyond all doubt degenerate physically, mentally and morally.'

Houston Stewart Chamberlain
The Foundations of the Nineteenth Century

>>519111455
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"Wohl hängt er (der Jude) seine Frauen manchmal einflußreichen Christen an, allein, er erhält seinen männlichen Stamm grundsätzlich immer rein. Er vergiftet das Blut der anderen, wahrt aber sein eigenes. Der Jude heiratet fast nie eine Christin, sondern der Christ die Jüdin. Die Bastarde aber schlagen dennoch nach der jüdischen Seite aus."

Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf
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"Man sehe doch, mit welcher Meisterschaft sie das Gesetz des Blutes zur Ausbreitung ihrer Herrschaft benutzen: der Hauptstock bleibt fleckenlos, kein Tropfen fremden Blutes dringt hinein; heisst es doch in der Thora: „kein Bastard soll in die Gemeinde Jahve's kommen, auch nicht nach zehn Generationen“ (Deuteronornium XXIII, 2); inzwischen werden aber Tausende von Seitenzweiglein abgeschnitten und zur Infizierung der Indoeuropäer mit jüdischem Blute benutzt. Ginge das ein paar Jahrhunderte so fort, es gäbe dann in Europa nur noch ein einziges rassenreines Volk, das der Juden, alles Übrige wäre eine Herde pseudohebräischer Mestizen, und zwar ein unzweifelhaft physisch, geistig und moralisch degeneriertes Volk."

Houston Stewart Chamberlain
Die Grundlagen des neunzehnten Jahrhunderts

>>519110425
meh, tabletalks totally checks out. Irving became cautiously based *because* he realised how fraudulent large parts of the narrative were and who Hitler really was.

Goebbels diary might have been edited by some talented jews but it presents no new, revelational data as far as I know.

>>519098263
>The German army wanted to save you.

>>519090201 (OP)
why not hear from the man himself? He believed that they would attack Germany, so that's why he wanted to strike preemptively
https://youtu.be/oET1WaG5sFk?si=vdi5gPeSEGIgl3Vs

>>519090201 (OP)
>was he crazy?
anon, I cant explain it with words but please for your own sake...never do meth

>>519110425
oh and I shouldn't say this, but Gehlen literally was a glownigger. He built the anti German BND from the ground up. I wouldn't trust a word from his mouth whereas Borman was obviously vetted by Adolf Hitler himself.

>>519112609
You're laughing, krautismos genuinely believe hot garbage they spew and you're laughing...

>Was he fucking crazy?
Yes? He got syphilis

https://youtube.com/shorts/8JYOaEGLoj0

>>519090201 (OP)
He didn't expect the west to stuff the USSR with aid. Without that factor, the USSR was indeed a paper tiger.
>>519090315
There's no evidence for this and Stalin even refused to believe initial reports of an Axis invasion. The USSR signed commercial agreements with Nazi Germany and even made a serious offer to join Axis.

>>519090315
>>519091213
>>519091332
Stupid logic. Defenders have the inherent advantage in conventional war, always. This is a terrible reason to launch a logistically fucked invasion deep into Russia. And retards just keep repeating it like its sensible. No, it isnt, it just proves the point that invading Russia is a retarded idea.

>>519113257
don't be an ignoramus, the evidence is massive, we discussed some of it itt.
The Hitler-Stalin "pact" suited both of them fine. Stalin got wind of Operation Pike and it freaked him tf out. Fearing an impending attack/betrayel, his other option was allying with Germany, who in turn knew of the incoming storm. At this point it ludicrous to deny factual history, which usally turns out to be the most rational reading.

>>519090201 (OP)
he knew about the lend lease pact and that the "americans" were bribing stalin like this and stalin would sooner or later attack
the initial plan should have been that the russians only took on and cleaned the third reich
by attacking first he forced the americans into d-day because the russians on their own were not fully set up yet
it was is only chance at beating moloch who has in the meantime consumed the entire northern hemisphere and is spreading fast to the southern too

It's all well documented.

>>519092235
>>519095629
>>519097045
What a chain of provocation. You all three probably have the same genetic relation, Northwestern Euros, unless the mutts are black or spics. Why does this matter, the Frenchman wants to justify himself and defend his country in front of the strong influence of the muttmerican flag. Poor French doesnt know how futile it is, but why would he listen to the Serb, who has even less influence.

>>519095876
I see germans still very antisemitic nazis fucks

>>519090201 (OP)
>Was he fucking crazy?