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Lolicons are objectively pedos (ID: wHNYcxG6) United States No.519171805 >>519171899 >>519171901 >>519171923 >>519172029 >>519172116 >>519172196 >>519172334 >>519172362 >>519172504 >>519173387 >>519174750 >>519174940 >>519175654 >>519175756 >>519177238 >>519177364 >>519177551 >>519177738 >>519178386 >>519179219 >>519179288 >>519179316 >>519179352 >>519179694 >>519179815 >>519179936 >>519180096 >>519181079 >>519181307 >>519182322 >>519182789 >>519182913 >>519183104 >>519183549 >>519184479 >>519185473 >>519185607 >>519187112
Lolicons are objectively pedos
I honestly can't see any counter to the fact that loli is pedophilia. There's no reasonable argument that I've ever heard, and I've debated this to death now. It's so simple.
The cope points are always:
>It's fictional
So is gay porn but youre not jerking off to muscular furry cocks. You are jerking off to it because you find the aspects it depicts attractive. The DSM specifically mentions fantasy, which is synonymous with fictional. No, it doesn't discount cartoons. It never mentions anything about ruling them out. It's very deliberate in this choice. No pedophilic disorder and pedophilia are explicitly different in the dsm.
>Pedophilia is a crime call the police!
Pedophilia is a thought, not an action. It is a medical term, not a legal one. A court does not find you guilty of pedophilia.
>it's just about small foids
Scroll over to /b/ what's being posted in loli threads? Go on any booru. What's going on there under the loli tag?
>she's 1000 years old!
If the character looks like a child, acts like a child or is explicitly stated to be a child. It's a child. You only need 2 of the 3 things. Sometimes, only one if it's exceptionally bad.
>in the anime, they say lolicon, not pedophile
Why is that the only word you're bot translating? Lolicon comes from the term Lolita complex, which comes from the book Lolita. Literally about fucking kids. But secondly, the characters don't know they are in a show you nigger. When an adult wants to rape kids, we call them pedophiles. You don't call real kids loli, so why would the characters? You wouldn't get mad that show Dexter call his character a serial killer despite it being fictional.
All this to say it shouldn't be banned but should be treated accordingly.
Anonymous (ID: Pnjfek8t) Singapore No.519171863 >>519177373
Anonymous (ID: eeLloQHe) United States No.519171899
>>519171805 (OP)
that just sounds like some salty old hag talk to me
Anonymous (ID: fgfJvaA2) United States No.519171901 >>519172237 >>519179906
>>519171805 (OP)
is Sam right?
Anonymous (ID: tACXG0da) United States No.519171923 >>519172237 >>519177405
>>519171805 (OP)
Are you from the farms? Because they obsess over this stuff constantly.

But anyways, my personal opinion is that if they get off to it then yeah they're pedos. I'm not going to kill them though. I think lolis are cute.
Anonymous (ID: tvbH6iTF) United States No.519172022 >>519172237 >>519184129
They are drawings.
Anonymous (ID: uz75Chg2) United States No.519172029
>>519171805 (OP)
But I like hearing grown men argue why they need to watch cartoon children
Anonymous (ID: pU3lkwie) Germany No.519172116 >>519172542
>>519171805 (OP)
if the loli has large breasts its not a child and just a fetish
if it has no breasts its a child
if its not nude its not loli
but all that doesnt matter your lizard npc brain only cares about this because your goverment told you to. prohibiting sex is just a form of control. you are a slave.
Anonymous (ID: Ml7K1z7+) Argentina No.519172196 >>519172325
>>519171805 (OP)
>All this to say it shouldn't be banned but should be treated accordingly.
Like what?
Anonymous (ID: wHNYcxG6) United States No.519172237 >>519172333 >>519172403 >>519183820
>>519172022
Of children. Your faggot if your blowing ropes to drawn me. Youre a pedo if its drawn children
>>519171923
Null is a faggot, and I'm disgusted we share mutual friends. Also i never mentioned killing?
>>519171901
He tried to fuck a child.
Anonymous (ID: vOboD57j) United States No.519172263
not gonna type a lot cause i barely give a fuck. but the real issue is that everyone is taking sex too seriously. were still just hairless monkeys, why would a simple shag lead to someone needing to die? why is your ego so big that you think were beyond needing sex as humans? its all anyone cares about still, sit down. whats worse, the fact we do take it seriously means that when it does happen, everyone freaks out and makes the kid think theyre worth nothing and kill themself. would never happen if noone gave a shit.
Anonymous (ID: wHNYcxG6) United States No.519172325 >>519173641
>>519172196
Like a once based hat salesman turned kike grifter once said. By laughing at retarded shit on the internet. Laugh at lolicons, make fun of them. Bully them. That's all, simple. Not advocating for trying to destroy their life.
Anonymous (ID: tACXG0da) United States No.519172333 >>519172708
>>519172237
Oh. Well on the farms they think pedos, and consequently nearly everyone here, should be castrated and forced against the wall for liking loli. Yes, they are that deranged.
Anonymous (ID: Uga2vvoc) United States No.519172334 >>519172772 >>519174105
>>519171805 (OP)
ok
Anonymous (ID: MWi2B1cA) Chile No.519172362
>>519171805 (OP)
>All this to say it shouldn't be banned but should be treated accordingly.
this is already what happens you stupid fucking nigger
Anonymous (ID: tvbH6iTF) United States No.519172403 >>519172708
>>519172237
They're not real kids. No one is getting hurt. You're a retarded terrible person, actually trying to end an outlet so pedos can go after real children. end of story.
Anonymous (ID: r3Ir2SO4) Canada No.519172504 >>519183857
>>519171805 (OP)
They don't call it
TRANIME for nothing
Anonymous (ID: wHNYcxG6) United States No.519172542 >>519186497 >>519186810
>>519172116
I literally outlined my guides you low iq nigger. Yours are terrible. Clothed children posing sexually is literally child erotica. Oddly enough legal in Japan? Junior idols are even sold on Amazon. Youre right that our society is arbitrarily assigning the fuck ability tag to ages. Most states have it under 18. But I'm not making moral claims. I'm describing a pattern of attraction. I do not "morally" condemn it. Human men were fucking children forever. Women would too so long as the boy came from a place of wealth. I'm well aware a good 65% of the world would fuck kids if the child was willing, and there were zero social or legal repercussions.
Anonymous (ID: k6Yhk7w6) United States No.519172628 >>519173104 >>519178343 >>519178565
Why is this the singular topic of the sort that always gets brought up, debated ad nauseam, and then concluded with every single party involved attaining nothing? It's perfectly fine to consume media involving fictional characters murdering each other, torturing each other, hunting each other down for sport, involved in all manner of cruel betrayals, consuming drugs with life-destroying consequences, etc. There are absolute spectrums of erotica involving corprophilia, bestiality, necrophilia, rape of every conceivable sort, and all manner of illegal coercion and manipulation to the consequences of countless fictional characters' lives in ways that would be appalling to every person who is aware of them, but if it doesn't involve a fictional child, it's all okay. It doesn't even matter if said fictional child is in the most idealistic scenario for whatever sexual encounter is ongoing, people will literally spend months straight, in a seething rage, arguing about how it is morally wrong to consume this pornography while putting that same measure of passion and fervor into defending their routine consumption of brutal wolf rape porn because it's all simply fictional.

I am not even interested in loli, because the porn I consume always involves milfs with comically oversized tits and ass, and the closest simply involves a shota self-insert for the reader. I just don't know why this is the eternal battleground for moral crusaders.
Anonymous (ID: wHNYcxG6) United States No.519172708 >>519173081 >>519173387
>>519172403
I explicitly stated in OP that I dont think it should be banned. Thought crime is bad. Harm doesn't matter. Not that this is harmless. All porn is harmful. But that it's irrelevant. I'm simply stating what it is.
>>519172333
You sound like a boy molesting faggot. They are right to bully the fuck out of you. Imagine caring about what niggers on a gossiping site think about you. You need to unironically kill yourself immediately.
Anonymous (ID: wHNYcxG6) United States No.519172772
>>519172334
And? There are so many Republicans saying they hate child rape and then go rape a child. You're a retarded nigger, and i hope trump drafts you to die for israel.
Anonymous (ID: tvbH6iTF) United States No.519173081 >>519173290
>>519172708
Again, they are drawings this isn't even real porn, no one is getting hurt. You're so biased and deluded you don't get that your suggestion "tell them what they are (pedos)" is harmful and a lie for people that just consume drawings.
Anonymous (ID: wHNYcxG6) United States No.519173104 >>519173141
>>519172628
You retarded low iq faggots can't read. Never did i make a moral judgment on you being a pedophile. I simply stated what it is. Much like with jews, simply pointing out what you are is enough to get a visceral reaction from you. I don't need to condem or hate you. Because you clearly hate yourself. A person who watches gay fiction porn is a faggot. Someone who watches nothing but blacked porn is a kike. And someone obsessed with fictional fucking kids is a pedophile. Stop fucking crying nigger. We don't call violent video game players murders and rape porn lovers rapist, because all those terms are both actions and legal terms. Pedophilia, being a faggot and a kike are thoughts. They are internal experiences
Anonymous (ID: tvbH6iTF) United States No.519173141 >>519173460
>>519173104
No one is though that consumes drawings you retard. They aren't children. You're fucking deranged.
Anonymous (ID: wHNYcxG6) United States No.519173290 >>519176163 >>519176460
>>519173081
Listen you fucking nigger. You drawn porn is indeed fucking porn. You are by the diagnostic criteria in the dsm a fucking pedophile. Screaming I'm delusional won't make you any less of pedophile. You sound like the troons crying about being called men.
Anonymous (ID: mGExV4CW) Romania No.519173387 >>519173598
>>519171805 (OP)
>>519172708

It's a drawing. Imagine being so fucking idiotic to regulate drawings. Get a life
Anonymous (ID: wHNYcxG6) United States No.519173460 >>519173635
>>519173141
Low iq.
"Oy vey goy, I'm not a faggot because I keep jerking off to men! See theyre drawings goy! Drawings! You can't be a faggot if theyre drawings"
Dsm specifically states fantasies count. It does not need to be a real identifiable minor.
Anonymous (ID: wHNYcxG6) United States No.519173598 >>519173742
>>519173387
When did I ever call for regulation nigger? I specifically said I dont think it should be banned, and the appropriate thing to do is to laugh at them. Do i need to add a picture of children or jingling keys to keep your attention so you can read more than one sentence, Tyrone?
Anonymous (ID: mGExV4CW) Romania No.519173635 >>519173752 >>519177151
>>519173460
>Hasn't acted on it
>Doesn't cause distress

So hentai with underage characters is okay. If you wouldn't fuck kirino kosaka you're simply a faggot
Anonymous (ID: Ml7K1z7+) Argentina No.519173641 >>519173773
>>519172325
Honestly seems like a big waste of time for both parties
Anonymous (ID: mGExV4CW) Romania No.519173742 >>519174402
>>519173598
Nobody will listen to your opinion on what we should do to these "pedos" because you're just some irrelevant nobody on 4chan. Understand this already. You're nobody. You will never matter. And btw people don't usually discuss what they jerk off to. More often than not they lie even about if they're dating at all. Especially women. Go outside
Anonymous (ID: wHNYcxG6) United States No.519173752 >>519173970
>>519173635
I think you're a degenerate pedophile, I will make fun of you. Call you names and tell you to kill yourself. It is the way. But I don't think it should be banned. So yes. Your weebslop should be allowed. My only point is that being a lolicon means your a pedophile. Nothing less nothing more.
Anonymous (ID: wHNYcxG6) United States No.519173773
>>519173641
Laughing at retards is quite enjoyable actually.
Anonymous (ID: mGExV4CW) Romania No.519173970
>>519173752

You will never know what I jerk off to. It's none of your business either. When i was in med school and I had to find my own patients otherwise I wouldn't pass whose fault was it? Who had to do all the work? What about setting up a practice? Managing the quality of work? Managing finances? Everything everything I had to do on my own. Hiring people etc. you think that is easy? You think anyone congratulates you or cares at all? No. People are too busy doing drugs,having sex or doing their own competitive shit. We are all alone in this life ultimately. And being told that no matter what you do you'll never be another millionaire politician or general or IT worked is the ultimate pill. And if you think that after all of this id tell some loser underage fag what I jerk off to? In Romania that's gay btw. I was left alone with a guy waiting for him to sign some papers one yesterday and some girls that left started laughing at us and probably thought we were gay.
Anonymous (ID: 6jsgDgCo) Finland No.519174052
I agree, but I also don't really care.
Anonymous (ID: Bf3Wx6lj) United States No.519174105 >>519174402 >>519177252
>>519172334
Faggots like OP are the right wing version of male feminists. Every single one of them is some sort of sex offender putting on a big show because they figure that will keep other people from noticing.
Anonymous (ID: FknQSczK) United States No.519174242
>DUDE I SWEAR SHE'S AN 800 YEAR OLD DEMON!
No she isn't
Anonymous (ID: wHNYcxG6) United States No.519174402 >>519175174
>>519173742
Youre proving the stats right nog.
>>519174105
I have raped 7 women and 4 men. Not for sexual pleasure. But because i was board
Anonymous (ID: VakiWR+W) Ireland No.519174750 >>519175288 >>519186718
>>519171805 (OP)
Is furry zoophilia? When I imagine getting knotted a fictional animal character who can talk is it because I'm a zoophile? When you say 'loli', do you still count underage characters that could potentially be mistaken for adults? If the person is aware the character they're sexually into is 12 in-universe, but the character looks as though they are post-puberty, is it still pedophilia?
I'm not exactly saying you're wrong about hardcore lolicons being pedophiles, I checked out those /b/ AIslop threads a couple years ago and it was filled with images that looked like an unsettling combination of your typical anime cartoon loli and real life children, and I have no doubt such people would jerk off to or molest real children (if they haven't already). But I'm just wondering where you draw the line. Since it's fiction, you could create a tall female character with big tits and hips but then call her 6, or create a short female character with no tits or hips but then call her 32. Fiction doesn't necessarily follow irl age-based physical and mental development.
Anonymous (ID: 0WRhSsV5) United States No.519174940 >>519175288 >>519176022
>>519171805 (OP)
is there anyone who actually cares? this rage always seems so inauthentic
Anonymous (ID: mGExV4CW) Romania No.519175174 >>519175673
>>519174402
So that makes you dumber than me since you have no argument and have the self centeredness of a 2 yr old. Everything revolves around you. Yet another proof that Americans and some other westerners have had their lives handed to them on silver plates. You don't see any Romanian writing internet posts about fictitious people they'll never meet and how they'll somehow through telepathy decypher what they're attracted to and,and mock them (oh no! 911!). You talk like a handicapped teenager. Nobody gives a shit about you. Tomorrow you'll have some other reason to troll the site.
Anonymous (ID: wHNYcxG6) United States No.519175288 >>519176022
>>519174750
You niggers get so mad you can't even respond to what i say. You just have to REEE into space. I literally address things like this op with the three points and saying 2 of 3 is what it takes. And to answer the question of you being a dog fucker. Probably. Same premise guide as with the lolis. Are the genitals human or animal? Are they bipedal or quads. Etc.
>>519174940
Stating a fact is raging when facts offend you.
Beat&RapeAllWomen (ID: ayrlIDyA) No.519175654
>>519171805 (OP)
There is nothing wrong with pedophilia. Pedophilia is normal and healthy.

Adult men have been marrying teenage girls for over 10,000 years. It is literally tradition. Every race, every culture, every religion supported it. Prove me wrong.

Pick a country, and then look up what year women got the right to vote. And then also look up what year the age of consent laws were passed. You will see that the "age of consent" is a feminazi construct intended to persecute innocent healthy men. Read the ancient Mythos of white people. Real men (like Hercules) love young teen girls (like Hebe). Get the fuck over it, faggot.
Anonymous (ID: wHNYcxG6) United States No.519175673 >>519179249
>>519175174
Anon... you're brown. I don't argue with niggers. Please read the thread, if your monkey brain lets you, for my arguments
Anonymous (ID: yr23LJEN) United States No.519175756
>>519171805 (OP)
-drawings are not real children. you will never make a drawing real. not real. a drawing. drawings are not real. not a human.

-basing what's right or wrong on looks is body shaming. there are petite adult women that look young, they are not children
Anonymous (ID: VakiWR+W) Ireland No.519176022 >>519177119 >>519177439
>>519174940
People who moralfag over what type of fiction people consume have always been very retarded and they're likely a degenerate themselves posturing to make themselves feel better. That said, as technology progresses, fiction gets more and more realistic and the line is blurred. AI can already produce fictional content that looks virtually indistinguishable from real life. With it, you can create pornographic images of 'lolis' that look real, and eventually it won't just be images, you'll be able to talk to the fake child live as if you're on a webcam together or some shit. So the obnoxious moralfaggotry over fiction is gradually getting more legitimate as time passes.
>>519175288
I'm not even attacking you bro I'm just asking, why are you so aggressive? Is this what the farms does to a nigger?
>Are the genitals human or animal?
Either one or a mix of the two.
>Are they bipedal or quads.
Bipedal, but many bipedal animals exist.
What if the mind of the character is completely human but the body is that of a feral animal? Is that zoophilia? What if it's an adult trapped in the body of a kid, is that pedophilia? What if the character was artificially created with the body of an adult but has only been alive for a week, and the person is jerking off to the innocence and lack of life experience?
Beat&RapeAllWomen (ID: ayrlIDyA) No.519176163
>>519173290
The DSM was literally written by a bunch of fucking white-kikes. Who cares what a fucking book says? How old was your great-grandma when your great-grandpa banged her, eh? Adult men have been fucking little teen girls for over ten-fucking-thousand years! It's normal, just like racism and everything else the jews are brainwashing us into hating.

10,000 year old white tradition: *marry and fuck 14yo girls*
Modern feminazis and jews: You can't do that anymore! It's wrong and evil! You deserve to die!
Anonymous (ID: BkmATe9s) Canada No.519176382 >>519177553 >>519177730
I've never seen any actual evidence that even suggests that lolicons are pedophiles. There's never been a legitimate study that makes the connection and nobody who has done good faith investigation has reached that conclusion.
Anonymous (ID: BkmATe9s) Canada No.519176460
>>519173290
>Lolicon hater
>Posts a loli
Very interesting
Anonymous (ID: wHNYcxG6) United States No.519177119 >>519178312
>>519176022
Why are people obsessed with the farms? Did I miss the 4th great reddit migration? There are so many more worse and more annoying groups on this site. Like the com or any other alt board. And I wasn't giving you some exhaustive list for zoophila. I don't care about it. I was simply answering your gay what about ism. You keep trying to law nigger your way out of being a pedophile. Take every scenario and just make it real and then give your answer to your own questions. If you want to fuck kids, if you're attracted to the depictions of kids youre a pedophile.
Anonymous (ID: BkmATe9s) Canada No.519177151
>>519173635
Based
Anonymous (ID: geYbh2IO) United States No.519177238 >>519178019
>>519171805 (OP)
They don't look like children though, they are facimiles of children. Health is directly correlated to age, children are healthier, smaller things are cuter. I've yet to meet any Loli enjoyer that is a pedo and the only pedos I've known don't like Loli. It's also entirely irrelevant, who gives a shit what your opinion is. If you are right then a huge percentage of people alive would be pedos with how extremely popular Loli is
Anonymous (ID: BjGZP2Pg) United States No.519177252
>>519174105
>people who think masturbating to drawings of kids is pedophilic are virtue signaling sex offenders!
This is the dumbest shit I see from weebs
Anonymous (ID: i+MU9OBi) United States No.519177301 >>519177345
>lollicons are pedos
If you ever disagreed with this, you are unironically a pedo yourself. Only pedos disagree with this.
Anonymous (ID: yr23LJEN) United States No.519177345 >>519177489
>>519177301
everyone knows you're retarded. if you disagree with this, you're retarded.
Anonymous (ID: pgnf4Mgh) Australia No.519177364 >>519177575
>>519171805 (OP)
>is loli pedophilia
obviously
>is loli disgusting
absolutely
>should loli be allowed
yes. pedophiles are born, not made, and if they have access to loli as a safe outlet they are less likely to rape actual kids or consume actual CP
Anonymous (ID: i+MU9OBi) United States No.519177373
>>519171863
>quick deploy distraction
>random seed strawman generated!
>WHAT ABOUT DEM ATHEISTS GUYS?
>FOKN ATHEISTS
Anonymous (ID: i+MU9OBi) United States No.519177405
>>519171923
>I think lolis are cute.
You're a pedo
Anonymous (ID: BjGZP2Pg) United States No.519177439 >>519177539
>>519176022
>moralfag
Yes, because it shouldn’t be legal regardless of if it’s β€œfiction”. Most places have thankfully realized this now but some boomers still haven’t caught up.

Also, it’s far simpler than you fags make it out to be and is enforced in the same way real CP is. That means all the same gray areas apply.
>we don’t know the age of this girl doing sexual stuff in some image on our site but she looks really young so therefore it’s logical to remove it unless verified
Simple as.
Anonymous (ID: i+MU9OBi) United States No.519177489 >>519177783
>>519177345
How come every loli lover I've met IRL is also a pedo? You can't even make a counterargument to this, all you can do is seethe
Anonymous (ID: i+MU9OBi) United States No.519177516 >>519177572
>my child rape fantasies are just fiction guys
Untermensch must be culled
Beat&RapeAllWomen (ID: ayrlIDyA) No.519177539 >>519177630
>>519177439
Yes, it should be legal, you fucking retarded piece of shit. KYS faggot.
Anonymous (ID: TIZn0oUb) United States No.519177551 >>519177795
>>519171805 (OP)
I'm curious why this conversation only ever ends at loli's? What about fictional furries, scat, inflation, rape, guro, vore, necrophilia, coprophagia? How do you interpret this? Will everyone else have the same reaction of disgust or indifference?
Anonymous (ID: wHNYcxG6) United States No.519177553 >>519177639 >>519177811
>>519176382
Its literally in the dsm. We know what the diagnostic criteria is. As for research. As a researcher. You fags can't comprehend the red tape. To conduct these studies, we need approval from federal oversight committees. The group we're dealing with are marked as exceedingly high risk. Depending on the state, we quite literally can not ask certain questions.
Beat&RapeAllWomen (ID: ayrlIDyA) No.519177572
>>519177516
All pedophobes should die.
Anonymous (ID: BjGZP2Pg) United States No.519177575
>>519177364
>safe outlet
I don’t buy it. They’ve gotten progressively worse over the years. It went from a sharp distinction and focus on cartoons to posting about β€œchild pussy”. Also if you look at the recent FBI CP ring busts, it’s now forums/discord servers filled with people who have anime pfps. The link is obvious and like all porn addiction it only gets worse.
Anonymous (ID: BjGZP2Pg) United States No.519177630 >>519177700
>>519177539
Judging by your name, I think even you know that you belong in a cell.
Beat&RapeAllWomen (ID: ayrlIDyA) No.519177639 >>519181538
>>519177553
The DSM is bullshit. Written by stupid feminazi Jewish retards.
Beat&RapeAllWomen (ID: ayrlIDyA) No.519177700 >>519178388
>>519177630
I forgot to change my name. lol. Besides, women are property, I can do whatever I fucking want to them, you fucking white knight piece of shit.
Anonymous (ID: BjGZP2Pg) United States No.519177730
>>519176382
>need a study to verify that the guys masturbating to drawings of kids are pedos
Woo lad
Anonymous (ID: NjG4/Or/) Ireland No.519177738 >>519178020 >>519178028
>>519171805 (OP)
>are objectively pedos
Probably, sure.

Yet, it's ALWAYS the one speak out most strongly against them that are a little more than "Probably"......

https://archive.is/fBKci

Why is that? :)
Anonymous (ID: yr23LJEN) United States No.519177783 >>519178020
>>519177489
>how come my anecdotal evidence is an excuse to claim that drawings are real life children?
Anonymous (ID: wHNYcxG6) United States No.519177795
>>519177551
Because my interest ends with lolis. I do have passing curiosity with other para fetishes, but I simply don't care enough. This one though, is simply naming what the thing is. Most of what you describe are actions. Rape is an act. Killing is an act. Pedophilia is, and i know this will rustle le heckin jimmies, a sexuality. As alluded to by various studies (2) that were allowed to be conducted. Showing the same areas of the brain light up for attraction when shown child stimuli as it does for gay men seeing other men. It is a thought. We also have an intrinsic interest in protecting kids. So, of course, we all care more about this.
Anonymous (ID: BkmATe9s) Canada No.519177811
>>519177553
>Its literally in the dsm.
It literally isn't. The DSM specifies that to be a pedophile you need to be attracted to IRL children.
>You fags can't comprehend the red tape.
So, in short, you can't provide any evidence for your claim?
Anonymous (ID: BkmATe9s) Canada No.519178019 >>519178135 >>519178144
>>519177238
>If you are right then a huge percentage of people alive would be pedos with how extremely popular Loli is
If we assume that 30% of Japanese people are anime fans (which seems to be close enough based on the available data) then at least a third of them would be into either lolicon or shotacon based on how popular those genres are. That means that 10% of the Japanese population would be pedophiles. Yet Japan somehow has some of the lowest rates of child sexual abuse in the world. Curious, isn't it?
Anonymous (ID: wHNYcxG6) United States No.519178020 >>519178086 >>519178148
>>519177738
Damn crazy. Everyone who talks about troons are tannys i guess. Also wow look at how many Republicans end up raping kids, but say they hate child rape. Guess all Republicans are child rapists. Nigger level commentary.
>>519177783
Why do you think the drawings need to be real life kids? If i make an image of fictional child that doesn't exist, but is indistinguishable from reality, would being attracted to it be pedophilia? Putting aside the dsm specifically states fantasies for the diagnostic criteria.
Anonymous (ID: BjGZP2Pg) United States No.519178028 >>519178148
>>519177738
>some cherry picked guys
Stop this retarded shit. This may work on normies but we’ve all seen what β€œlolicons” fantasize about on here. I’ve seen the discord servers, forums, etc and almost every pedophile has some little anime girl pfp. It’s their pride flag at this point .
Anonymous (ID: BkmATe9s) Canada No.519178071
This all reminds me of the "Are traps gay" argument (the answer is no, btw)
Anonymous (ID: N0Ea0eCJ) Slovenia No.519178081 >>519178221
uhm, what happened to "pedos go in the woodchipper"?

I thought /pol/ hated pedos, but looks like most of you actually fantasize about fucking children
Anonymous (ID: yr23LJEN) United States No.519178086 >>519178196 >>519178340
>>519178020
>why do you think drawings need to be real life?
1) strawman argument
2) a drawing cannot be real life

are you retarded?
Anonymous (ID: wHNYcxG6) United States No.519178135 >>519178361 >>519178959
>>519178019
Lmao. This is a blatant lie. Japan doesn't prosecute rape and sex crimes as much. This is well documented. They have a near 100% conviction rate. To maintain this, unless they can completely prove it, you're not getting charged. They literally made child erotica legal and had to roll it back and have wish washed on it ever since. They have junior idol stuff. Of 12 to 15 year olds posing sexually for non nude photo shoots. They sell these in normal stores
Anonymous (ID: BjGZP2Pg) United States No.519178144
>>519178019
>10% of the Japanese are lolicons
Lmao stfu. It’s maybe 1-2% at most. And yeah, I assume most of them have CP and take creep shots of kids. Most pedos never act though. That’s usually rapists with low impulse control so you see it more with shitskins and not in Japan.
Anonymous (ID: NjG4/Or/) Ireland No.519178148 >>519178285 >>519178341
>>519178028
>>519178020
I'm just saying. The chances of you ending up on that list are statistically higher than the chances of the terminally maladjusted cartoon watching incel.
Pic very related.
Anonymous (ID: wHNYcxG6) United States No.519178196 >>519179358
>>519178086
I asked why is the real life part a component? Is someone gay if they exclusively jerk off to men, but they are drawn ? Would you say they are more likely to be gay or less likely to someone repulsed by it, who only looks at pictures of women ?
Anonymous (ID: BjGZP2Pg) United States No.519178221
>>519178081
It’s just the weebs. Delusional porn addicts who want to convince people that masturbating to drawings of kids is normal actually.
Anonymous (ID: wHNYcxG6) United States No.519178285
>>519178148
It's quite literally not. I haven't even made a value or moral claim regarding it in any serious way. You sir are a projecting nigger.
Anonymous (ID: VakiWR+W) Ireland No.519178312 >>519178670
>>519177119
>Why are people obsessed with the farms? Did I miss the 4th great reddit migration?
You mentioned that the owner of the farms is a friend of your friends so it's a pretty logical deduction that you post there or have posted there in the past.
>Take every scenario and just make it real and then give your answer to your own questions
Some of those scenarios literally aren't covered by any laws since they're impossible. One week old adults and human-brained animals don't exist.
You said "I've debated this to death now" but your debate skills aren't very up to par, you should have clear answers to what I or others are saying and you don't, you're mindlessly seething while contributing no real arguments outside of what you've posted in the OP.
>519177439
>>we don’t know the age of this girl doing sexual stuff in some image on our site but she looks really young so therefore it’s logical to remove it unless verified
But we're not talking about removing sexual photos from sites. We're talking about whether or not being into those photos is actually pedophilia. Are you saying that one should assume all grey area cases in fiction are pedophilia?
Anonymous (ID: i+MU9OBi) United States No.519178340 >>519179358
>>519178086
Jacking off to the drawing still makes you a pedo, if the drawing clearly depicts a pre pubescent child
Anonymous (ID: BjGZP2Pg) United States No.519178341 >>519178408
>>519178148
You’re just wrong though. The reason nobody spams β€œlolicon busted with CP” is because most don’t make any distinction. Some old cops bust a guy, he has CP + drawn CP, and it gets bundled together.
Anonymous (ID: JDoAi0sB) United Kingdom No.519178343
>>519172628
Pretty much, but aswell
Fictional characters cant really consent to anything anyway.
So age of consent is silly to apply to them.
Like two characters that are 30 having sex, none of them consented because they have no free will because they arent real.
Yet we dont consider all sex scenes to be rape.
Anonymous (ID: i+MU9OBi) United States No.519178361
>>519178135
>let's be like Japan
They're insane psychos
Anonymous (ID: 8MIc0CEi) Canada No.519178373 >>519178391 >>519178530
It's a drawing of a 598 vamp please understand its not the child features (insert cope) uh well its fictional qnd uhhhhhbh japan rapes less kids or something oh and anti anime people are real pedos
Did I miss anything?
Anonymous (ID: z7zFEHCZ) United States No.519178386
>>519171805 (OP)
i guess dont look at it then
Anonymous (ID: VakiWR+W) Ireland No.519178388
>>519177700
You won't do shit
I will call you a faggot online and there's nothing you can do about it
Anonymous (ID: 8MIc0CEi) Canada No.519178391
>>519178373
Forgot pic my b
Anonymous (ID: i+MU9OBi) United States No.519178408
>>519178341
>Some old cops bust a guy, he has CP + drawn CP, and it gets bundled together.
Nothing wrong with that. And also lolis need to count as CP. Pedos can't be rekt hard enough.
Anonymous (ID: JDoAi0sB) United Kingdom No.519178530 >>519178664 >>519178675
>>519178373
What if they are drawn like an adult but are canonically underage
Like what if some girls flicking her bean to Cell from Dbz
He's canonically like 6 years old, but he looks like an adult bug man
Anonymous (ID: W1ac2zgw) United States No.519178536 >>519180157
>I don’t like (thing), therefore it shouldn’t exist!
This is the usual non-argument against some drawings on the internet.
Anonymous (ID: BjGZP2Pg) United States No.519178565 >>519186229
>>519172628
Because it doesn’t stop with fiction. Sure, I will grant you that some principled pedophiles control their urges enough that they just get off to drawings. But like any porn addiction, people progressively seek out more to scratch that itch. It’s why you see lolicons nowadays being more open with their language. They keep passing new lines to get that thrill but they will always have that lingering fantasy bc the forbidden fruit is actually experiencing what they are watching. Many never go that far bc of the consequences but they do usually leap to CP which they justify as β€œit’s just pics/videos, it’s already out there, I’m not hurting anyone. Then others move on to sharing pics of children in their lives and worst actually act on it.
Anonymous (ID: 8MIc0CEi) Canada No.519178664 >>519180604
>>519178530
Completely kosher just like this simple innocuous drawing
Anonymous (ID: wHNYcxG6) United States No.519178670
>>519178312
I said I was disgusted by that fact. I dont use jershs gay little site. And you're now asking about legality, and morality. Both things I have no interest in. I am not using either and have clearly stated so multiple times.
Anonymous (ID: BjGZP2Pg) United States No.519178675 >>519178812
>>519178530
The gray area is really a nothingburger for drawings. What we’re talking about is people who jerk off to obviously drawn kids. Some of these anime girls look like fucking toddlers and these guys are calling them their waifus. It’s undeniable when you see it.
Anonymous (ID: JDoAi0sB) United Kingdom No.519178812 >>519179113 >>519184204
>>519178675
Is it a nother burger?
Like what about Asuka from NGE
Or Yoko from Gurren Lagann
I hear about people complaining about people who sexualise my hero acadamia characters so where is the line drawn?
Anonymous (ID: BkmATe9s) Canada No.519178959
>>519178135
Even with the least generous estimates of unreported cases, the rates would only be marginally worse than America or Europe. Keep in mind that not all cases are reported everywhere else either.
>They literally made child erotica legal
It was softcore and more like a legal loophole.
>They have junior idol stuff
It's all pretty tame now since they banned softcore CP. Keep in mind that the vast majority of lolicons never touch this stuff which is interesting considering how they're pedophiles according to you. Also Netflix released Cuties in America.
Anonymous (ID: BjGZP2Pg) United States No.519179113 >>519179331
>>519178812
Most of the people who complain about that retarded shit are kids, attention whores, and hysterical faggots. I’m talking specifically about the porn that is made to look like prepubescent kids. I’m also not saying we need a task force to go around checking the ages of anime girls. But it needs to be scrubbed from as much of the internet as possible and if a pedo is busted with CP + drawn CP then stack the charges.
Anonymous (ID: RwojatzI) United States No.519179219
>>519171805 (OP)
well better to get their rocks off to drawings than real children
Anonymous (ID: mGExV4CW) Romania No.519179249
>>519175673
You don't even know what country this is ROFL
Anonymous (ID: nRSPs6X1) Croatia No.519179288 >>519179360 >>519179664 >>519179705
>>519171805 (OP)
Let me play devils advocate - attraction can be very specific. You could be attracted to anime lolis but feel no real sexual attraction to 3D little girls.

Your move.
Anonymous (ID: EsFWAhbi) Lithuania No.519179316
>>519171805 (OP)
You're a typical projecting pedophile like all Americans are.
Anonymous (ID: 8MIc0CEi) Canada No.519179331 >>519179778
>>519179113
I literally just posted some i don't think your marvel tier taskforce will ever be a thing anon
Anonymous (ID: MYOL+GJu) United States No.519179352
>>519171805 (OP)
Being MAGA is a better indicator of fucking children than liking loli anime desu
Anonymous (ID: yr23LJEN) United States No.519179358 >>519179565
>>519178196
>>519178340
jacking off to a book with rape in it does not make you a rapist

reading books about solving crimes does not make you a detective, even if you jerked off to it

buying a doll from the store and keeping it from being damaged does not make you a parent

kill yourselves
Anonymous (ID: RwojatzI) United States No.519179360 >>519179514 >>519179802
>>519179288
this actually, i fap to loli but dont like kids or have the intention of ever doing so
Anonymous (ID: 8MIc0CEi) Canada No.519179514
>>519179360
Loli is a drawing of ----
Anonymous (ID: fmpyHNV9) United Kingdom No.519179565
>>519179358
Wtf do you mean I'm not a detective
Of course I am.
Anonymous (ID: BkmATe9s) Canada No.519179664
>>519179288
This. For example, I like muscular anime girls. However, real muscular women are not at all my cup of tea.
Anonymous (ID: SCTlZy4q) United States No.519179694
>>519171805 (OP)
>moralfagging in the glorious year of 1776+250-1
Anonymous (ID: BjGZP2Pg) United States No.519179705
>>519179288
The brain isn’t randomly generating attractions. You don’t see 1-5% of the population attracted to trees with tree forums arguing about how it’s normal to jerk off to trees. The people who are attracted to β€œlolis” are attracted to human figures and, more specifically, child-like figures. It’s a trait that society has deemed bad but one that nature may have cultivated as a sort early worm mating strategy (mate early to ensure reproduction).
Anonymous (ID: BjGZP2Pg) United States No.519179778 >>519179947
>>519179331
It’s already criminalized in most countries and is actively being scrubbed, faggot. It’s why you weebs complain every month about le free speech.
Anonymous (ID: RwojatzI) United States No.519179802
>>519179360
a fictional child, a caricature even considering how idealized lolis are in most settings
Anonymous (ID: WrZNrNRL) United States No.519179815 >>519179908
>>519171805 (OP)
>If you're aroused by depictions of children in sexual acts you're a pedophile
No sh0t how is this even up for debate?
Anonymous (ID: WrZNrNRL) United States No.519179906
>>519171901
When I was 13 I was attracted to 13 year olds
I am now in my 30s and I wish my 13 year old and all her friends would just shut the fuck up
No attraction, no arousal
Anonymous (ID: BjGZP2Pg) United States No.519179908 >>519179969 >>519180141
>>519179815
Because pedophilia rightfully has the worst social stigma so lolicons have to differentiate themselves. Some are just coping while others are trying to fool normies so they can have another day to spend gooning to kids.
Anonymous (ID: /j3zok0m) No.519179936 >>519180080
>>519171805 (OP)
truke

4chan and ZOG will lie lolicons are not pedos because the implications are MASSIVE
it means pedos are not a very small minority of wicked people like they want you to believe
Anonymous (ID: 8MIc0CEi) Canada No.519179947 >>519180025
>>519179778
It's not and if you had any form of reading comprehension im agreeing with you sadly you are brown
Anonymous (ID: WrZNrNRL) United States No.519179969 >>519180050
>>519179908
Biggest part of the problem, bring back bullying, allowing these pisscord dumbler cesspits to exist allows for this degen bullshit
Anonymous (ID: BjGZP2Pg) United States No.519180025 >>519180116
>>519179947
Go collect more kid drawings you dumb faggot.
Anonymous (ID: W1ac2zgw) United States No.519180050
>>519179969
I agree, normalfags and moralniggers should be ruthlessly bullied into going back.
Anonymous (ID: WrZNrNRL) United States No.519180080
>>519179936
Because if their is anything I've learned about you faggots it's that you goon all day to anything and everything
Anonymous (ID: OczZ6Mgk) United States No.519180096 >>519180507 >>519181636
>>519171805 (OP)
For the sake of argument, let's say you're right.

So what? What changes? Child abuse is rightfully a crime, but liking loli characters is not. I've never understood the endgame of trying to get lolicons to admit to being pedos.
Anonymous (ID: 8MIc0CEi) Canada No.519180116
>>519180025
They aren't drawings buddy and like i said you aren't wrong lolicons need to pathologically justify the fact they arent pedophiles cept for the fact lolis are.....?
Anonymous (ID: RwojatzI) United States No.519180141 >>519180265 >>519181800
>>519179908
yeah because jacking off to drawings is on par with legitimate pedophiles who have done and will do worse to real children
Anonymous (ID: BjGZP2Pg) United States No.519180157 >>519180327
>>519178536
>thing
>some drawings
The fact you can’t even say what it is you are defending should clue you in that it isn’t justifiable
Anonymous (ID: BjGZP2Pg) United States No.519180265
>>519180141
I never said that. A pedophile is someone who is attracted to children. Some have acted on it, others have only fantasized about it. Deviant attractions and porn are a recipe for disaster though.
Anonymous (ID: W1ac2zgw) United States No.519180327 >>519180469
>>519180157
>uh, I do not approve..
And?
Anonymous (ID: BjGZP2Pg) United States No.519180469
>>519180327
>I
Like I said, most countries have criminalized it. Most platforms have banned it. But run along and go jerk off to kids to spite the moralfags.
Anonymous (ID: BkmATe9s) Canada No.519180507 >>519180626
>>519180096
They've all got skeletons in their closet. Most like loli as a guilty pleasure and some are even actual pedos. By attacking lolicons, they can cope and provide cover for themselves.
Anonymous (ID: aYLFfXkB) New Zealand No.519180604 >>519180761
>>519178664
this niggas such a pussy for removing all his Laura art on pixiv
Anonymous (ID: BjGZP2Pg) United States No.519180626 >>519180959
>>519180507
No, most people just want pedos gone. Most of the normies are doing it bc they want loli banned and criminalized like CP. And you faggots bitch and moan bc you know it works.
Anonymous (ID: 8MIc0CEi) Canada No.519180761
>>519180604
Real esp since candydoll is still making content but with hags these days
Anonymous (ID: BkmATe9s) Canada No.519180959 >>519181127
>>519180626
Whatever you say, buddy.
https://litter.catbox.moe/t4m6svi7t0yhiwt1.mp4
Anonymous (ID: djeRIvDa) Sweden No.519181079 >>519181124 >>519181177 >>519181344
>>519171805 (OP)
I'm not defending pedos, but there should be a seoerate crime if something is fiction and there hadn't been any real victim.
Anonymous (ID: djeRIvDa) Sweden No.519181124
>>519181079
>seoerate
Seperate*
Anonymous (ID: BjGZP2Pg) United States No.519181127 >>519181339 >>519181347
>>519180959
Lmao, you guys go through all these mental gymnastics making these dumb compilations when all I gotta do is point out that you masturbate to drawings of kids.
Anonymous (ID: BjGZP2Pg) United States No.519181177 >>519184019
>>519181079
Yeah it’s called obscenity laws. However, loli will count as CP if someone is caught with CP. So stacks the counts.
Anonymous (ID: oBNaEEYo) Germany No.519181307
>>519171805 (OP)
Retards like OP keep insisting I'm a pedophile, and I wouldn't care if I was, but real children only make me feel disgust if I tried to imagine them in a sexual context. I'm guessing reality and fiction are just different.
Anonymous (ID: BkmATe9s) Canada No.519181339 >>519181593
>>519181127
>Recognizing patterns is mental gymnastics
Kike detected
Anonymous (ID: z7zFEHCZ) United States No.519181344
>>519181079
i will never support thought crime like that its very jewish
Anonymous (ID: 6Ej2ModB) United States No.519181347 >>519181800
>>519181127
>drawings of
No victim, not bad
Anonymous (ID: 4HAm4ERM) United States No.519181538
>>519177639
Evidence, tranny?
Anonymous (ID: BjGZP2Pg) United States No.519181593 >>519181667 >>519181802
>>519181339
Cherry picking to affirm your porn addiction isn’t pattern recognition you low IQ pedophile. If you wanted to do pattern recognition then go into any loli community and wait for the inevitable pedo talk and CP spam. But we both know you’re just being disingenuous.
Anonymous (ID: wHNYcxG6) United States No.519181636
>>519180096
To live in reality. I made no moral claims about it.
Anonymous (ID: oBNaEEYo) Germany No.519181667 >>519181802 >>519181987
>>519181593
>loli community
Do you do that anon? Do you have a lot of experience with these loli communities and cp posting? Have you done a lot of research there?
Anonymous (ID: wHNYcxG6) United States No.519181800 >>519182918
>>519181347
Not a counter. Not an argument about morality. Simply making an accurate definition
>>519180141
Pedophilia is a thought not an action
Anonymous (ID: BkmATe9s) Canada No.519181802 >>519182045
>>519181593
>then go into any loli community and wait for the inevitable pedo talk and CP spam
I'm an avid Blue Archive fan and it probably has the biggest lolicon community, but I have never seen any "pedo talk" or "CP spam."
>>519181667
The answer is yes.
Anonymous (ID: BjGZP2Pg) United States No.519181987 >>519184112
>>519181667
We’re on 4chan, nigger, not Twitter. Your cringe pilpul doesnt work here. I’m old enough to remember when pedophiles had their own board and spammed the site with CP. Now they are relegated to /b/ where they post AI CP and drawn toddler porn. And yes, you need your special hard drive checked you smug retard.
Anonymous (ID: BjGZP2Pg) United States No.519182045 >>519182202
>>519181802
>blue archive
You left out your pedo discord server, faggot.
Anonymous (ID: BkmATe9s) Canada No.519182202 >>519182257
>>519182045
I'm sure you've got a lot more experience with these "pedo discord servers"
Anonymous (ID: BjGZP2Pg) United States No.519182257 >>519182334
>>519182202
Again, this cringe smugness falls flat when it’s all in defense of you being able to masturbate to drawings of kids. I’m sure you’ll convince lawmakers with that one :’)
Anonymous (ID: M0eYziBe) United States No.519182322 >>519182408
>>519171805 (OP)
It’s not pedophilia it’s severe porn addiction.
Anonymous (ID: BkmATe9s) Canada No.519182334 >>519182374
>>519182257
>t. jewish pedophile
Anonymous (ID: BjGZP2Pg) United States No.519182374 >>519182463
>>519182334
>the jews don’t want me masturbating to drawings of kids!
Good one, gayper
Anonymous (ID: BjGZP2Pg) United States No.519182408
>>519182322
Those are not mutually exclusive
Anonymous (ID: BkmATe9s) Canada No.519182463 >>519182598
>>519182374
Hurry on back to these "pedo discord servers" to do more "research"
Anonymous (ID: BjGZP2Pg) United States No.519182598 >>519182826
>>519182463
>yeah I find everyone that said something bad about drawn CP and got busted to make an owned compilation
>but you’re the real pedo for noticing that the people obsessed with little cartoon girls are always posting CP
I don’t need to go to discord because you freaks are right here.
Anonymous (ID: PtIgdtY/) United States No.519182789
>>519171805 (OP)
Thanks op for exposing how many retarded faggots there are on here. I guess it shouldnt have come as much of a surprise...
Anonymous (ID: BkmATe9s) Canada No.519182826 >>519183040
>>519182598
>>but you’re the real pedo for noticing that the people obsessed with little cartoon girls are always posting CP
You literally just made this up. The biggest lolicon community in the world has zero pedo posting.
>don’t need to go to discord because you freaks are right here.
You're the one who's comparing lolis to actual children.
Anonymous (ID: QhJ/4nUW) No.519182913
>>519171805 (OP)
3D is PD.
/thread
Anonymous (ID: oBNaEEYo) Germany No.519182918 >>519183333 >>519183707
>>519181800
I'll try and engage with you in good faith. The point of making a distinction between reality and fiction is that our mind processes these differently. The easiest comparison is with murder, you'd find games like hitman really fun, and killing people in creative secretive ways really satisfying, but you would be disgusted at the idea of doing this in real life, because your mind is capable of both realising this isn't real and immersing yourself in the medium.
In regards to sexuallity, drawings, especially anime drawings, are essentially low detailed smiley faces, which allows a wider range of interpretation and projection into your mind. You'll find most people don't even fully interpret anime characters as fully human due to this, like how many people actually visualise a 12 year old boy when watching Naruto? Your mind has the ability to ignore whatever details wouldn't make sense, it's one of the reasons why translating anime to film with real actors almost never works, and just makes it seem uncanny.
This is why, when people come in an insist that these drawings are the same as reality, or the same whatever they're imagining, I can't help but worry they might actually believe they are killing real people in call of duty, or that they might be like a toddler and not to comprehend that what they think isn't what everyone else thinks.
I expect the responses to be
>Nu uh
Or
>Cope
Anonymous (ID: BjGZP2Pg) United States No.519183040 >>519183259
>>519182826
Lolis are drawings of children. Idk how many times you need this obvious shit explained. And again, you can go on /b/ right now and see it. The problem is you’re a pedophile yourself so ofc you don’t see people fantasizing about fucking kids as β€œpedo posting”. Normal people do though.
Anonymous (ID: s+DnQQAJ) United States No.519183104 >>519183707
>>519171805 (OP)

A much more interesting question is if I posed a drawing of someone that looked like a middle age woman and then told you that she's 17, is anyone attracted to it a pedophile?
Anonymous (ID: BkmATe9s) Canada No.519183259
>>519183040
>/b/
And you accused me of cherry picking
Anonymous (ID: BjGZP2Pg) United States No.519183333 >>519183506 >>519184408
>>519182918
There’s not point in having an β€œhonest” conversation with you when you are a disingenuous pedophile. The other Canadian guy ITT posted a sexualized anime loli which is a trace from actual CP and replied to the Aussie about a child modeling studio. If you wanted an honest conversation then you would start by admitting you’re a pedophile. But you know how that looks and sounds. You know how society sees it. So you have to play these stupid games over and over and over like every lolicon. It’s the same shit and I don’t expect it to go anywhere bc it seems to be an immutable characteristic for you guys. Hell, you can’t even acknowledge the harm all this deviant pornography is doing bc of how addicted you are.
Anonymous (ID: 7UwFfe0y) United States No.519183357
normalfags discovering anime was a mistake. if phones didnt have internet access this stupid fuck argument would never have existed.
Anonymous (ID: xipq3djZ) United States No.519183400
My brain is so broken that I'm not even attracted to real women anymore, it has to be 2D
Anonymous (ID: oBNaEEYo) Germany No.519183506 >>519183611 >>519183667
>>519183333
>Completely fails to engage and resorts to emotional lashing
Woman
Anonymous (ID: j2N67/a4) No.519183549
>>519171805 (OP)
Gommie pod bousing capsule hotels with breakfast included playlist watch, usury gapitalism defeated

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLosV7-J3OWsDnxrh7PGQ7ZWJY3ZeN7W7Q&si=Sipg8XjMLxMTbx27
Anonymous (ID: BjGZP2Pg) United States No.519183611 >>519183861
>>519183506
Fail to engage with your retarded bullshit about how drawings of toddlers being fucked can be interpreted by the brain differently? Lmao you clowns should be ridiculed and shamed like you were before we got here. Fuck engaging with degenerates.
Anonymous (ID: BkmATe9s) Canada No.519183667 >>519183738
>>519183506
>Woman
You're probably right lol
Anonymous (ID: wHNYcxG6) United States No.519183707 >>519183814 >>519183836 >>519184093 >>519184408
>>519182918
Retarded. No one said they are the same. I explicitly said otherwise. It doesnt need to be the same. Pedophilia includes fantasy. Try harder.
>>519183104
I literally address this in the op. Are you all so retarded you can't read? I've answered this so many times in this thread. I won't engage with niggers. Please learn to read to prove you aren't a nigger and get back to me.
Anonymous (ID: BjGZP2Pg) United States No.519183738
>>519183667
>fuckin women want to take our drawn CP away!
Not beating the fat weeb allegations
Anonymous (ID: BkmATe9s) Canada No.519183814
>>519183707
>Pedophilia includes fantasy.
Fantasy of specifically real children, retard.
Anonymous (ID: dntTD4FX) France No.519183820 >>519183870
>>519172237
>enjoy any fictional media? congrats you're [bad thing]
being unable to separate things is nigger-tier
Anonymous (ID: BjGZP2Pg) United States No.519183836
>>519183707
Yes, pedophiles have been shown to be lower IQ on avg so they are that retarded. The others are just disingenuous.
Anonymous (ID: dntTD4FX) France No.519183857
>>519172504
they do, it's a psyop
Anonymous (ID: oBNaEEYo) Germany No.519183861
>>519183611
Anonymous (ID: BjGZP2Pg) United States No.519183870
>>519183820
Not all media is the same. Please tell me what social benefit we get from legalizing toddler rape drawings?
Anonymous (ID: edjSxZPA) Canada No.519183873 >>519183975 >>519184043
How many people who've watch fake incest have participated in real incest? Cause fake incest is a leading sometimes the lead in porn? I think lolicons are just people leading a fantasy they'll never act out on. I'd rather target billionaire pedophiles.
Anonymous (ID: T9w8Dd2Z) Germany No.519183913
dont care
age of consent is 14 here and this fact makes amerimutts seethe like no other because they have to resort to 18yo, used up DNA Elementals
Anonymous (ID: BjGZP2Pg) United States No.519183975 >>519184209
>>519183873
>think
It’s hard to measure. I would say the amount that have acted are slim but the amount that consume CP are significant (30-50%). It’s not a big leap to go from looking at drawings of kids being raped to pictures of kids being raped.
Anonymous (ID: 7UwFfe0y) United States No.519184019 >>519184168
>>519181177
>obscenity laws
dont hold in higher courts, technically not constitutional. degens never fight it because of fear of longer sentencing though.
Anonymous (ID: W1ac2zgw) United States No.519184043
>>519183873
But targeting billionaires would take real effort, and the average shitposter would never go against their masters that commit real crimes.
Anonymous (ID: oBNaEEYo) Germany No.519184093 >>519184996
>>519183707
Pedophilia does not include "fantasy". Pedophilia means attraction to prepubescent humans. For someone to be a pedophile they would have to be attracted to this first and foremost. The entire point is that they aren't seeing real children in this abstraction, hence why they can be attracted to a 2d character and repulsed by what you see as the real life equivalent.
Anonymous (ID: 7UwFfe0y) United States No.519184112 >>519184390
>>519181987
fun fact: the cp spam on /l/ was by the leftist equivalent of you retards. the point was to remove the board because they didnt like loli. actual /l/ posters hated them and this spam didnt exist on places like 7ch and not4.
t. old as fuck
Anonymous (ID: ZC4CYzwx) United States No.519184129
>>519172022
Was this really just a thing with him?
I watched one (1) review from Nostalgia Critic by chance and it was about Sailor Moon. There was this whole ass rant about the girls being 14 and sexualized in their transformation sequences where their silhouettes danced across the screen. It was an incredibly tame sequence and he acted like it was a stripper dance.
Anonymous (ID: BjGZP2Pg) United States No.519184168 >>519184591
>>519184019
SCOTUS has upheld the Milled test to control obscene material. If shit went to SCOTUS today then I’m sure all CP, real and simulated, would be criminalized fully. As we see happening in Texas. The law just takes a while to catch up.
Anonymous (ID: dntTD4FX) France No.519184204
>>519178812
>where is the line drawn?
basically at "things I don't like" with those types
Anonymous (ID: edjSxZPA) Canada No.519184209
>>519183975
I'll admit I didn't think about CP, that's a pretty good point. Still I would rather focus my energy on the ultra powerful ones.
Anonymous (ID: BjGZP2Pg) United States No.519184390 >>519184678
>>519184112
>the CP that just so happens to follow every loli community is actually because of the loli haters!
You serious? Or maybe it’s just the guys who masturbate to kids actually like kids?
Anonymous (ID: s+DnQQAJ) United States No.519184408 >>519184675 >>519184996
>>519183333
>>519183707

I think objectively anyone deliberately depicting prepubescent children in sex acts is pandering to pedos and the vast majority of society wouldn't argue with you. These also aren't really edge cases, and not even really an interesting discussion in the context of what is currently going on with the attempts to ban this stuff.

My point in asking about people being attracted to a middle aged looking 17 year old about getting at the idea of punishing people over consuming this kind of content. From the perspective of the law its easy to lump everyone into one group and start sentencing people for looking at drawings, and in the context of things like AI generated porn where there is basically zero ability to determine the intent of the creator or that actual age of anyone depicted, it starts getting really easy to use the law as a bludgeon against literally anyone looking at pornographic content that isn't made with real people. So regardless of the obvious problems with feeding into sick addictions some people have with pedophilia where would you even begin to practically draw the line on what is and isn't ok with things like drawings and using language along the lines of things that look like children or appear to be depicting children?

An obvious problem with this kind of logic would be potentially criminalizing content produced by full grown adults that simply appear to be underdeveloped for one reason or another. Shit like the lazytown girl. That chick literally looked like she was 12 and there was a god damn countdown for the day she turned 18. Legally speaking should would have been completely within her rights to start producing porn the day she turned 18, and there would be a pretty compelling case to be made that that kind of stuff should be illegalized just by virtue of the fact that she appeared to be young. If that's the kind of criteria we are going to be using as a society to punish people it is primed for abuse eventually.
Anonymous (ID: CP4QWUly) Germany No.519184446
The number of people that complain about drawings and then go to rape children is staggering (60-80%)! Be careful of the anti-loli to pedophile-rapist pipeline.
Anonymous (ID: bQqV50sJ) Serbia No.519184479 >>519185805 >>519186196
>>519171805 (OP)
faggot
Anonymous (ID: dntTD4FX) France No.519184512
>519183870
>nigger attention whore expects an answer
Anonymous (ID: 7UwFfe0y) United States No.519184591 >>519184921
>>519184168
Ashcroft v. Free Speech Coalition (2002)

Brown v. Entertainment Merchants Association (2011)

United States v. Handley (S.D. Iowa, 2008)
People v. Kirkpatrick (New York, 1990s)
State v. Castillo (Texas, 2000)
Ashcroft v. Free Speech Coalition (2002, U.S. Supreme Court)

At very worse SCOTUS wont take the case, and you get a fine for obscenity laws you can then challenge later. These all fall under the same laws that allow violent videogames and movies to exist. Personally, all depictions of nasty things should be banned and we go back to G rating only everywhere but im not the law.
Anonymous (ID: BjGZP2Pg) United States No.519184675 >>519185229
>>519184408
I said it ITT but idc about drawings of developed characters who are X age. Doesn’t matter. There is obvious shit that can be spotted by anyone. We have AI detectors that can identify Lolis and kids bc they have distinct features from their adult counterparts.
Anonymous (ID: 7UwFfe0y) United States No.519184678 >>519184922 >>519184996
>>519184390
yes, as they vocally stated as such when spamming. spamming cp and gore in early 4chan was a way to prune threads or boards you didnt like. they would then gloat about it on alt chans, bss, irc etc. It was "funny" because they were hoping tbe spam would get the animefags in trouble.
Anonymous (ID: 07X7EVLn) No.519184725
lmfao

you guys are so serious and write such details and well thought replies for this garbage topic, but everything else is memes and spaghetti
Anonymous (ID: W1ac2zgw) United States No.519184899
>you must draw only what I like or else I’ll ask the government to pwn you
>the exact proportions must be met or else!!!
Has to be a woman, no man would ever think like this without a woman being involved.
Anonymous (ID: BjGZP2Pg) United States No.519184921 >>519185232
>>519184591
You’re leaving out the PROTECT Act of 2003 which bans indistinguishable and obscene depictions of minors in sex acts. Obscene is still in play but Ashcroft rule just said the blanket ban was overreach. Doesn’t mean it was a right decision either and states should do what’s in the best interest instead.
Anonymous (ID: oBNaEEYo) Germany No.519184922
>>519184678
Still happens on /v/, autists spam cp in threads of games they dislike to get them moved to /vg/.
Anonymous (ID: wHNYcxG6) United States No.519184996 >>519185232 >>519185241 >>519185452
>>519184093
You're a nigger, please see my post from the dsm
>>519184408
You're a nigger. I'm not talking about the law or morals. The dsm opens up saying it's neither. I never called for this to be banned or criminalized.
>>519184678
Yeah man I too juat keep cp on hand so I prune thread ha ha. Totally.

This thread is now a no nigger zone. Please post your skin colors and proof you don't use windows to respond.
Anonymous (ID: cSVuRa/w) Poland No.519185000 >>519185069 >>519185132
Yeah, I am. 12-13 is prime. Got a problem with that, faggot?
Anonymous (ID: wHNYcxG6) United States No.519185069
>>519185000
Not really. I would like to study you, but no ethics board will approve it, and no states will wave a dtr
Anonymous (ID: BjGZP2Pg) United States No.519185132
>>519185000
Congrats, you’re the only honest lolicon ITT
Anonymous (ID: s+DnQQAJ) United States No.519185229 >>519185359
>>519184675

The obvious stuff isn't really the problem, its all the stuff at the boundaries between acceptable and unacceptable. No one is disputing that ultra realistic drawings of infant rape is tantamount to child porn or at least strongly resembling it. Legally codifying the outlawing of sexual depiction of minors is the challenge here. Putting the law to words that in such a way that there is a clear distinction between what is and isn't ok and what the precise boundary between the two is the problem. The actual issues with doing this manifest in countless ways. Shit like, banning all porn, drawn or otherwise, that depicts school cheerleaders. When you are talking about a drawing what is the actual difference between someone dressing up as a high school cheerleader and an actual high school cheerleader. When all you have to go on is a drawing and we are talking about putting someone away in prison it really fucking matters that this stuff is clearly laid out in the law. It's fine and dandy that you want to ban the things you don't like, there isn't even a large number of people that would argue with you when it comes to the blatantly obvious stuff. But if you can't spell out exactly what is ok then it simple doesn't work.
Anonymous (ID: 7UwFfe0y) United States No.519185232 >>519185385
>>519184921
>2003
did you not see the dates I posted next to the cases?
>but it wasnt the right decision!
take it to SCOTUS then. for now its protected under the 1st and the current ways people are going about to ban it under law like texas open a bag of worms people are to retarded to see.
>>519184996
>Yeah man I too juat keep cp on hand so I prune thread ha ha. Totally
its not 2004 anymore but yes people did. Its what made 4chan lel EvIListest place on the web! I know its hard to understand being younger then the site itself.
Anonymous (ID: oBNaEEYo) Germany No.519185241 >>519185465
>>519184996
You're the nigger with lacking reading comprehension. You keep insisting on everyone seeing anime lolis as real children, but they just don't. You'll just have to get this concept through your thick skull.
Anonymous (ID: 07X7EVLn) No.519185359 >>519185665
>>519185229

there's an easy solution, ban it from the public, that way loli is kept only privately, but CP is still illegal to both own privately and publicly. if you're caught sharing drawn loli publicly maybe some kind of penalty, aswell as the social shame/stigma

basically we push it underground like homosexuality used to be underground

are we done here?
Anonymous (ID: BjGZP2Pg) United States No.519185385 >>519185686
>>519185232
None of those decisions overturned the PROTECT Act though. There’s a reason we don’t see people who get extra counts stacked on from loli fighting it in court.
Anonymous (ID: s+DnQQAJ) United States No.519185452 >>519186417
>>519184996


Your opening statement is that loli is pedophilia, if you don't want to ban it then you are ok with people doing it, and by extension of your own logic pedophilia as well, bold statement. It's easy to sit here and bitch about the existence of this stuff and the sick fucks who get off on it. If you don't have anything to say about how you want to actually fix the problem then you're just another midwit.
Anonymous (ID: BjGZP2Pg) United States No.519185465
>>519185241
>hmm yes I’m attracted to this specific arrangement of pixels that resembles a child and not the one that resembles an adult because.. prepubescent kids look like adults to me!
Anonymous (ID: UqBevlkh) Indonesia No.519185473 >>519185807 >>519186573 >>519186618
>>519171805 (OP)
Pedophilia, like it or not, is a sexual orientation. What is the meaning of an orientation? It is a system of feelings and desires directed towards a certain category of people. It is chronic, unchosen, and it usually comes with strong romantic feelings

Pedophilia ticks all these boxes. It is a system of feelings/desires aimed towards children. It is a chronic attraction to children. It is not chosen, and it develops naturally. It is, most of the time, accompanied by romantic feelings

Pedophilia therefore is a sexual orientation. Now, acting on the desire is, and always will be, harmful for the development of the victim's psyche. But that's action. That's crossing boundaries. This is immoral and society should condemn the action

However, the attraction itself is not immoral. It crosses no boundaries by itself. Acting is a chouce, attraction is not
Anonymous (ID: TGNFtjFU) Norway No.519185607
>>519171805 (OP)
post lolis here, you will be arrested I am not joking

some law "intent of pedophila"
so don't pls
Anonymous (ID: s+DnQQAJ) United States No.519185665 >>519185940 >>519186340
>>519185359

I mean basically all porn is subject to this already, you aren't really allowed to advertise porn publicly anywhere. I suppose I'm ok with the status quo but shit is going to get a lot weirder as AI advances and I doubt society will leave this subject alone.
Anonymous (ID: 7UwFfe0y) United States No.519185686 >>519185740 >>519185818
>>519185385
go read about United States v. Handley (S.D. Iowa, 2008) and see how that worked under Protect.
If its a cartoon, its not covered under protect, with multiple cases showing as such. This isnt about whether I like it or not its just the law as is.
Anonymous (ID: oBNaEEYo) Germany No.519185740
>>519185686
You're unironically arguing with a woman.
Anonymous (ID: TGNFtjFU) Norway No.519185805 >>519186196 >>519186402
>>519184479
die!

wtf is wrong with you
oh yes I like cartoons anime of little girls

here it is classified as pedophilia man
btw porno I mean regular porno with non anime or animals and that shit, is illegal here. you can get 3 years in prison for doing a porno

hold on....
https://lovdata.no/dokument/NL/lov/2005-05-20-28/KAPITTEL_2-11#shareModal
Anonymous (ID: s+DnQQAJ) United States No.519185807 >>519186896
>>519185473

I reject that it's unchosen. People choose to eat things like capsaicin, no one starts out liking incredibly spicy food, it's an acquired taste and something people build a tolerance to. Human sexuality is largely the same when it comes to what people choose to expose themselves to.
Anonymous (ID: BjGZP2Pg) United States No.519185818 >>519186036 >>519186102
>>519185686
Attorneys disagree with you, pedo
Anonymous (ID: 07X7EVLn) No.519185940 >>519186314
>>519185665

what? theres no problem with what i just said. ban it from being distributed publicly. if you're caught, heavy fines. if people want to explore a darker side to their sexuality, then it should be underground, just like how people do it with drugs, weird sexual fetishes and so on

problem solved man

most men dont watch to admit they have an attraction, to admit it is a social death sentence, they should sort those feelings out privately, and its nobody elses business what a person does privately
Anonymous (ID: yyOMXT2/) United States No.519186036
>>519185818
jews disagree with pedophilia. I think not.
Anonymous (ID: KcXceG05) Austria No.519186102 >>519186205
>>519185818
you do know that law specifically references drawn characters based on real life people?
Anonymous (ID: TGNFtjFU) Norway No.519186196
>>519184479
>>519185805
okay six months I expect you to speak norse, because I have serbs in my family.. nvm ..

how yandex to not russenorsk?
Anonymous (ID: BjGZP2Pg) United States No.519186205 >>519186468
>>519186102
>but judge, it was just a DRAWING of a child getting raped!
Anonymous (ID: ApHv+gyo) United States No.519186229
>>519178565
> The worst actually act on it
Imagine not kissing and cuddling and fondling the children in your lives because you're a demonic servant of feminism, treating children's sexuality as a forbidden evil, abandoning them to their solitude, letting them fail, and then blaming them when they do.
Everyone agrees that the generations raised under the rule of women, the generation most protected from sex in history, are also the least well adjusted, the most fragile, and the least competent. I think it's no accident.
Anonymous (ID: s+DnQQAJ) United States No.519186314
>>519185940

Like I said, I'm ok with the status quo. What you are suggesting is basically the way it already is. I just doubt society will accept that in the long term. I suspect there will be a lot more attempts to ban pornography outright in the near future regardless, but if I had to guess there will be a significant campaign to get lolicon explicitly outlawed long before that and the underaged appearing AI soon to follow. That being said, I highly doubt the laws will make any sense up until the point that they just outright ban porn altogether.
Anonymous (ID: oBNaEEYo) Germany No.519186340 >>519186407 >>519186542
>>519185665
It is actually insanely easy to make anything be in a gray area. In fact most anime characters fall in the gray area, hence why you have retards even complaining about university age characters with giant tits because of the way the face is drawn.
Have pic rel as an example, is this a child? And adult? It's very straightforward if you've played the game.
Anonymous (ID: yhmYRP6Z) No.519186402
>>519185805
But fucking niggers is legal? clown society
Anonymous (ID: oBNaEEYo) Germany No.519186407
>>519186340
Pic rel didn't upload for some reason
Anonymous (ID: wHNYcxG6) United States No.519186417
>>519185452
Nigger detected.
Post your skin.
Pedophilia is not an action it's a thought. Yes, I'm okay with people thinking. I wish you basketball dunking fucks would think a little more sometimes.
Anonymous (ID: KcXceG05) Austria No.519186468 >>519186555
>>519186205
i mean i ain't going to prison any time soon buddy.
Anonymous (ID: Pfir1AtW) Sweden No.519186497 >>519186621
>>519172542
>lolicons are pedos
>we should do nothing about it
Great political thread, you gorilla nigger.
Anonymous (ID: s+DnQQAJ) United States No.519186542 >>519186940
>>519186340

Thats basically my point. I have zero faith in our legislature or any other governing body to properly differentiate anything out of that grey area. It is vastly simpler to ban everything and if I had to guess the laws that to get written will be so bad and poorly structured that people will just roll over and want to ban porn altogether rather than split hairs ad infinitum.
Anonymous (ID: BjGZP2Pg) United States No.519186555 >>519186654
>>519186468
>b-but your honor, the toddler isn’t actually real!!
Anonymous (ID: wHNYcxG6) United States No.519186573
>>519185473
I'm surrounded by niggers. I literally called it a sexuality, based on the research we have. I never made a moral claim.
Anonymous (ID: 4Q+K5XcM) United States No.519186618
>>519185473
> Now, acting on the desire is, and always will be, harmful for the development of the victim's psyche.
This is such bullshit without further detail. If you mean raping someone who doesn't want it will harm them, then obviously. If you mean pleasuring a willing person of any age will always damage them, you're just a brainwashed feminist simp.
> but women always say
Right. Women say. Women have made an art of retrospectively withdrawing consent and imagining all kinds of trauma where no trauma should be.
If you mean that being involved with a woman of any age is problematic and probably dangerous, then sure.
But it has nothing to do with boys and men.
> the boys are holding the severed heads of goats
> they are going to be traumatized
> call the police
This is what you sound like.
Anonymous (ID: wHNYcxG6) United States No.519186621 >>519186721 >>519186810
>>519186497
YES.
Thought crimes are not crimes. But acknowledging the truth is important. Breaking the taboo, so I can study you fucks.
Anonymous (ID: KcXceG05) Austria No.519186654 >>519186771
>>519186555
>his own source says it has to be a depiction of a real minor in order to be classified as csam
man am i glad the avarage amerigolem is too retarded to read his own language
Anonymous (ID: NPv6jXe0) France No.519186718
>>519174750
>Is furry zoophilia?
Yes.
>Is loli pedophilia
Yes.

next
Anonymous (ID: s+DnQQAJ) United States No.519186721
>>519186621
Yes you are cool with pedophilia, we get it.
Anonymous (ID: BjGZP2Pg) United States No.519186771 >>519186914
>>519186654
You couldn’t be bothered to finish reading it? Another display of pedo IQ.
Anonymous (ID: BkmATe9s) Canada No.519186810
>>519186621
>Breaking the taboo, so I can study you fucks.
>>519172542
> I do not "morally" condemn it.
>I'm well aware a good 65% of the world would fuck kids if the child was willing, and there were zero social or legal repercussions.
Anonymous (ID: NPv6jXe0) France No.519186896 >>519186964
>>519185807
Hum... should I believe actual scientific findings or anon's middle schooler analogy..?
Anonymous (ID: KcXceG05) Austria No.519186914 >>519187031
>>519186771
>couldn't be bothered to finish reading it
well it would be quite helpful if you would actually provide me with your source material, then again i'm currently conversing with something that has the memory of a goldfish/nigger so you probably don't even remember never having posted a link to the site you are taking screenshots of
Anonymous (ID: 07X7EVLn) No.519186940 >>519187075
>>519186542
>that people will just roll over and want to ban porn altogether

good, ban it. the only porn people should be able to get is underground or hard to access. you should deter to make it hard, but not make it impossible. thats basically the state of drugs at the moment. if people want porn they'll have to share it privately amongst themselves. honestly better for society

the public space should be squeaky clean, but what you can do privately, if its immoral, should not be technically impossible, but there should be mechanisms put in place that make it hard to do, so its a dissuasian mechanism
Anonymous (ID: s+DnQQAJ) United States No.519186964
>>519186896

If you don't think children that a molested by the same sex are predisposed to homosexuality then you are a fool.
Anonymous (ID: BjGZP2Pg) United States No.519187031 >>519187228
>>519186914
>heh it’s not illegal if it isn’t portraying a real child being fucked!!
You’re the one that made the claim, pedo. Every law firm and attorney says otherwise.
Anonymous (ID: s+DnQQAJ) United States No.519187075 >>519187158
>>519186940

I'm starting to long for the old days when weed was still illegal. The more I think about it the more it seems like things were better when it wasn't flaunted in public constantly.
Anonymous (ID: CvVdBthE) Canada No.519187112
>>519171805 (OP)
>not politics
This is a /b/tard topic, kys faggot. Of course nigger jannies will keep this up.
Anonymous (ID: zKmheHwj) France No.519187158
>>519187075
I miss when the internet was harder to use for normalfags
Anonymous (ID: KcXceG05) Austria No.519187228 >>519187285
>>519187031
>pic
ok cool so it's just like marijuana where it's federally illegal but not actually enforced in the states that permit it, just like I didn't have police getting up in my face when i was getting stoned off my ass in san francisco
Anonymous (ID: BjGZP2Pg) United States No.519187285 >>519187522 >>519187606
>>519187228
>like duuuuude I’m just gooning to kiddie rape, mind your own biz
Anonymous (ID: KcXceG05) Austria No.519187522 >>519187593
>>519187285
honestly funny how mad it makes you, keep posting buddy
Anonymous (ID: BjGZP2Pg) United States No.519187593
>>519187522
>honestly funny how mad it makes you, keep posting buddy
Anonymous (ID: 07X7EVLn) No.519187606
>>519187285

people need to become more aware that life should be split into a private part, and a communal part. the communal part should be the squeaky clean part we all work to uphold. this communal part should be enforced with penalties and laws

then theres the private part, where it should be ones choice whether to do something immoral, but there should be dissuasion mechanisms in place

you dont want to overreach and invade peoples personal lives, that's why privacy is important. there needs to be a careful balance...but shills already know this
Anonymous (ID: KcXceG05) Austria No.519187692
>scared of a little 4 letter word
couldn't be me
Anonymous (ID: zKmheHwj) France No.519187701
>519187285
resorts to emotion and blurring the lines/false equivalencies
woman moment
Anonymous (ID: ltUOHmro) Norway No.519187840
there are so many hot and cute lolis on tiktok