Thread 519183944

>Russia doesn't have air sup-
air superiority alone doesn't win wars, that's why USA lost all of them

this war's been going on way too long just stop killing whites

>>519184311
>just surrender and balkanize

>>519184387
no don't even surrender just stop killing whites that's it

>>519184311
>just stop killing whites
Cool it with the anti-semitism

>>519183944 (OP)
>By 2021, there had been a total of at least 13,074 airstrikes conducted by the US government,

>>519184576
if russia keeps airstriking at this rate they will beat this number by more than 3x in a single year

>>519184452
You're arguing with a vatnik, same as explaining per capita to a nig.

>>519184742
in 2 more weeks
never forget that afghanistan got their first mcdonalds 3 months after the first strike

>>519183944 (OP)
Now post your total aircraft losses. Over 100 lost KA-52 LMFAOOO Your air force is truly pathetic. You do not have air superiority, but then again your average iq is below 100, so I can see how big numbers limited to a few days a year appeals to your ape mind.

>>519186119
>according to coping trannies Russia lost all tanks, all men, all ships and all copters

>>519186119
Do you know how many aircraft the US lost in Vietnam? Take a guess.

>>519186303
The United States lost a very large number of aircraft during the Vietnam War — both fixed-wing planes and helicopters.

Here’s a breakdown based on official U.S. Department of Defense and Air Force records:

Fixed-wing aircraft (planes)

U.S. Air Force: about 2,251 aircraft lost (combat and non-combat)

U.S. Navy and Marine Corps: about 1,118 aircraft lost

Total fixed-wing losses: roughly 3,369 aircraft

Helicopters

Across all U.S. services (Army, Air Force, Navy, Marine Corps): about 5,607 helicopters lost

Grand total

If you combine both:

≈ 8,976 total U.S. aircraft lost (planes + helicopters)

>>519186378
Now look at the casualty differences. In addition, helicopters were a new concept. However, this is classic intellectual gymnastics, posting numbers without context.

The US sustained about 60k deaths, while Viet lost over 1 million. Not really the same thing here. Americans also did not claim air superiority.

Try not being an arrogant faggot lol

>>519186119
Uh-oh NAFOsister, what now? Russia is getting close to the Stinky!

the glide bombs were unironcally a game changer in this war.

>>519186549
I dont care about Ukraine. I just hate russians and their low iq arrogance

>>519186501
>N-no now let me move on to a different statistic to t-try to support my position!
Russia is taking territory. You cannot move goalposts and say controlling territory is not victory in war. Point out statistics all you want, America lost, Vietnam won. America lost, Taliban won. Simple as.

Was just at a party recently, striking up conversation before eating, asked some of the guys which side they supported in the Ukraine war. First guy said Zelensky and said he'd have left leg of the chicken. Second guy said he supported Putin and said he'd have the right leg. Last guy said he supported Trump but mentioned he wasn't hungry at the moment.

>>519186691
Insightful. Really gives an idea of how people feel. Beeb should do an article on it.

>>519185050
You are stupid, you think he is talking to putin? Touch grass

>>519185094
Russia would lose to Germany. Germany is a threshold state with a large enough number of genius IQ they could put together an existential threat to Russia within weeks while at the same time destroying Russian elements along the front.
The doctrine of racial quality has never been refuted. Ukraine and Russia struggle because at the frontlines it’s two armies of Slavic apes.

>>519186680
Classic. "Russia is taking territory". Now post the attrition rate. Can you say anything without being dishonest?

The US chose not to genocide those too countries. If the population are all the enemy, you have too options. US chose to leave. If you beat the shit out of someone and choose not to kill the, did they win?

This board is fucking retarded lmao

>>519186801
Russia is winning but they’re winning due to numerical advantages. Wars of attrition favor numerical advantages. Russim, like Ukroidim, are apes, neither side can actually fight. I personally do not think the age of the tank or the rapid deployment of combined arms forces is over. I just think we are seeing two retards fighting.

>>519186801
Ukraine has higher attrition rate than Russia. But even if it didn't it would still run out of soldiers faster than Russia because of the population size difference.

>>519186575
>the glide bombs were unironcally a game changer in this war.
Glide bombs, cheap compared to missiles. Higher payload, from 500kg all the way up to to 3000kg which will absolutely destroy any position it is dropped on. The ranges went from 20, 40 and sits at 60km now (with some rocket boosted versions at ~100km) which means the platforms dropping then can fairly comfortably avoid ground based sam systems. Drones obviously is THE big game changer of the war, but the glide bombs is the differentiator between Ukrainian and Russian offensive capabilities and it really shows

>>519186770
>Russia would lose to Germany
You mean Germany that until recently had 4! Combat operational fighters and their soldiers were using fucking brooms during Nato exercises? Germany is going to need two decades to buildup to the level where they can fight Russia. Ukraine could win against Germany in 2022 (if they somehow still had the rest of the western world backing them up like they do now)

>>519186951
Hahaha exactly!

>>519186801
>Classic. "Russia is taking territory". Now post the attrition rate. Can you say anything without being dishonest?
Cool, what numbers do you trust? 2 million Russian casualties as posted by the Ukrainians? 14:1 KD because of their magical qualities? Or the Russians claim they have caused 1,7 million Ukrainian casualties? Truth be told there are no verifiable sources. What we do know os that Ukraine is constantly outnumbered despite recruiting almost two million soldiers to date, and at this point press ganging civvies of the streets. Russia is estimated to have about 900k soldiers in Ukraine, so where did that excessive million Ukrainian men go if they are supposed to have a 7:1 KD and should now outnumber the Russians?

>>519186549
Stinky HOLDS!

>>519184387
literally nobody wants you to balkanize you fucking retard, that would make it too easy for the chinks to take your natural resources

imagine being 4 years and 1.3 million dead russians in with zero progress, and still bragging online

this is highly embarrassing

>>519183944 (OP)
>109
everything is to fuck with us isn't it?

>>519186303
>>519186378
The difference is that the U.S. could and can build more.

Russia can't. They managed to put together something like SIX of their T-14 "Armata" tanks in a decade, and those were utter failures due to engine problems. They even break down in the middle of parades in Moscow.

>>519183944 (OP)
Yeah we lost because we didn’t have long term plans overseas other than resource extraction. We went nation building and our only successes were
>S.Korea
>Japan
>Germany
>Iraq (sorta, they still have a government)
And then we failed
>afghanistan
>vietnam

If anything we have learned that tank doctrine is really flimsy and weak nowadays, and naval power is where it’s at.

>>519187905
>1.3 million dead russians
"It was real in my mind"

>>519188147
Russia can't make aircraft?

>>519184387
Ivan please tell me you have better plan than win or Balkanize
>>519186549
>we’re taking yet another remote village that we’re going to spend thousands of human lives to take when only 30 people live there

>>519184387
>just surrender and form a commieblock

>>519188376
Yeah it’s more like 1.5 million dead and wounded with an 80% lethality

>>519188385
>Russia can't make aircraft?
Ehh, they can but it's like a few handful a year. Enough to not only exceed attrition rates but they are still actually exporting models (even fewer, but the point remains they are at a surplus)

>>519184311
slavs aren’t white

>>519188510
Their issue is pilots and jet fuel. Their pilots before the war had to get airline jobs to keep their pilot’s licenses because they didn’t train enough.
Now all the experienced pilots are dead, and they have even less time in the cockpit, and Russia can’t make enough jet fuel, or it’s having trouble getting it, or simply doesn’t have enough pilots trained to fly the planes.

>>519186119
>100 lost KA-52
>iq below 100
kek, innumerate mutt only heard of number 100

>>519183944 (OP)
with actual air superiority the entire Ukrainian chain of command would already be obliterated

>>519184387
yes.Europe is many small independent states not vass multiethnic empires like India, China, US, Ottoman.

>>519188793
not if both sides are in on it and this is just a way to cull undesirables of both country’s

>>519183944 (OP)
russia doesn't have air superiority over ukraine, they never did. they launch their shitty glidebombs from 60km away. if they ever had air superiority the war would've been over. every ukrainian military infrastructure would be destroyed. ukraine wouldn't have an air force. they wouldn't be able to launch hundreds of drones a night because russian aircraft would be patrolling seeing where they are coming from.

russian ground forces would have actual air support calling in precision airstrikes- it'd be a completely different war.

and LOL 109 airstrikes being a record. guided bombs even??? welcome to 1991.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe2OtSnBYb8

During shock and awe in 2003 the US was conducting 1000-1500 airstrikes (single sorties-multiple munitions) per day just around baghdad.

if russia had been able to do that they would've been able to successfully take kyiv just like the US did Baghdad.

>>519184387
You will balkanize either way

>>519188673
>Now all the experienced pilots are dead
With the exception of early war helicopter losses, the air attrition rate hasn't been nearly that high. It's weeks or months between each time a jet goes down

>>519187212
Lol wtf is that thing

>>519183944 (OP)
How's your stalemate going? Is it still stale?

>>519186501
Moving goalposts now that plane losses were shown?

The US ground loses were low, because the US were pussies and just bombed everything for the air, killing god knows how many innocents in the process.

>>519184742
>if russia keeps airstriking at this rate
But they never do.

>>519189049
>During shock and awe in 2003 the US was conducting 1000-1500 airstrikes (single sorties-multiple munitions) per day just around baghdad.
No doubt the numerical superiority of the us air force allowed then to do that, but you also have to factor in that the Iraqis had some S-75/SA-2 systems and mostly flak aa. The biggest risk during the gulf war was blue on blue engagements rather than enemy fire.

>>519187212
ukraine has glide bombs too. if you didn't notice the front line has barely changed at all. russia doesn't know what the fuck they're dropping their bombs on because they dont have forward air controllers or real intel assets, so they target random homes and buildings near the front. they arent real time precision close air support like western militaries get where you drop a bomb on people shooting at you within a couple minutes.

its also embarrassing how few precision bombs russia had when the war broke out. the US unironically had more in 1991.

>>519189132
>Lol wtf is that thing
UMPK glide kit to convert Soviet era bombs to glide bombs. Just strap a bomb to it and drop it at a high altitude

>>519189181
I didn't move goalposts. Vietnam was a 15 year ordeal, while Ukraine is about 4. And again, the Americans never claimed air superiority. They were conducting REAL aerial warfare, with dogfights, and hot medevacs, while Ruskies throw their glide bombs from 60km away and still take losses. I mentioned casualty rates because I'm pointing the the war fighting capability of the nations as a whole, sorry its too complex.The dishonesty continues.

>>519189366
in 91 the iraqis had a very robust air defense system- one of the best in the world.

meanwhile in 2022 ukraine was using a 100% soviet air defense system that russia literally designed and uses themselves, yet they couldn't figure out how to find them, let alone destroy or jam them.

mapping enemy radars is extremely complicated and takes a lot of assets- a lot of tech which didn't exist in 1991 but the US managed. russia failed miserably.

also training- russian pilots themselves say their air to ground training is pathetic. lack of guided bombs means all they trained for was shit like unguided short range rockets and dumb bombs. the US gave them a literal blueprint of how to build a modern airforce and they had 30 years to do it but failed to do so. so they're stuck using outdated soviet methods like ground control (ground controllers directing the planes instead of letting the pilots do it)- they're trying to update now but its too late to make a difference. i imagine some generals took a fall out of a window.

>>519189375
They have drones spotting targets, the problem is that any movement to capitalize on the destroyed positions is hindered by enemy FPV drones. They cannot assault the position with a platoon due to the risk of attracting drones, hence the so called mosquito tactics. It's slow as fuck but it's the complete opposite of the meatwave tactics they often are accused of by the propagandists.

>>519189626
they are still doing daily meatwaves, the russian milbloggers themselves complain about it and you can see videos just about every day of the results. they dont have enough healthy men or equipment at the front to do meatwaves the size they used to though.

>>519189608
>meanwhile in 2022 ukraine was using a 100% soviet air defense system that russia literally designed and uses themselves, yet they couldn't figure out how to find them, let alone destroy or jam them.
I will agree that their capabilities to engage and eliminate air AD systems is limited compared to the US. It's going to be one of the teaching points of the war for sure. I mean they can kill them fairly easily once their positions are discovered, but pinpointing their exact positions seem to be a visual process as opposed to an signal intelligence one

>>519184387
Nobody said anything about balkanization. Do you have something on your mind?

>>519190011
>Nobody said anything about balkanization. Do you have something on your mind?
It's a reddit talking point

>>519184387
Just stop sending men to die for Stinky, retard.

>>519186378
>≈ 8,976 total U.S. aircraft lost (planes + helicopters)
it is more than Russia had before Ukrainian war even started

>>519184387
this is your brain on russism

>>519183944 (OP)
Why does russia always have pastel blue and green as colors? Whats the story behind that

It took 3 weeks for the US to conquer Iraq, a country on the other side of the globe.

It’s been 3 years and Russia barely has a foothold beyond the original contested borders

>>519184387
>just surrender and balkanize
unironically what nato/london thinks it can "demand" Russia do, because *checks londons notes* it says right here:
>"Russia lost!"
and nato won!

sorry thats the rules!

>>519187212
They just invented a new glide bomb that goes 150km

>>519190809
Imagine the occupation if they do manage to take more of Ukraine. We set them up to play insurgent.

>>519190809
>1991-2004
Pochemu hohli takie dolboeby

>>519190986
What is Russia’s win condition for this war again?

>>519189779
In ideal conditions the SAM sites aren't emitting any signals until enemy aircraft are within "oh shit" range, you use some sort of extremely long range radar to identify and track incoming aircraft and then the SAM positions switch on their radars and fire immediately when they're told that the enemy is within kill range. Obviously this isn't always possible for a whole host of reasons, but that's the dream.

>>519184472

>>518466555

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/518459639/#q518466555

>>519183944 (OP)
"Russkie Guided bomb" means ivan watch them fall to earth and was pleasantly surprised when one hit close to the target.

>>519184387
>Putin promised me he would not kill Zelenskiy, says former Israeli PM

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/05/putin-promised-me-he-would-not-kill-zelenskiy-says-former-israeli-pm-naftali-bennett

Yet your kike president refuses to do a quick decapitation strike and would rather maximize slav deaths instead, odd.

>>519191209
Losses? How many American casualties during 13 years in Iraq?

>>519191280
If it works it works. Sorry ukrannies spam chads take the w

>>519191217
1 million Kia, 15 percent of Ukraine captured.

>>519188376
Ok, russian shill, what non state russian media do you have for us?

>>519191340
And Ukrainians go full bing bing wahoo celebrating whites’ deaths and making KFC burials, odd

>>519184311
>whites

>>519191366
>1991-2004
Voobshe tupoy, da, hohlina?

>>519191366
4k I believe.

>>519186378
The most astonishing fact about the Vietnam War is that there was no deliberate bombing of Hanoi before 1972 -- after 11 years of war.
(The USA didn't know what the hell it was doing there. The whole thing is an example of what happens when you put politicians and businessmen instead of generals in charge of running a war.)

>>519188147
Cos it was a prototype that's clearly been shelved you spastic, the current war has shown how useless heavy tanks are
>They even break down in the middle of parades in Moscow.
are you literally tarded?

>>519191209
Why do russniggers think only hohols can hate them?

>>519191403
Yes I wonder if all their major oligarchs and president isn't Slavic at all but Jewish just like Russia, it's almost like the only winning move is not to play.
Peculiar situation.

>>519184387
>cia
don't like it?
may you shouldn't have started a colour revolution in ukraine
and then installed a jewish comidian with no political experience as dictator

>>519191498
32,000 wounded and only 4K deaths vs
1.5 million casualties and something like 600,000-700,000 actual dead Russian bodies.

>>519183944 (OP)
>268 bombs in a single day
yeah, the half of them fell on Russia itself

>>519190035
>balkanization
Russians probably think NATO wants to break up their country like Yugoslavia.

>>519191541
Hard to think of yourself as the good guy when you realize that every civilized country hates you

>>519186501
>The US sustained about 60k deaths, while Viet lost over 1 million.
Turns out when you kill civilians you can get a high count

>>519191541
Because only hohlopidors are degenerate and simultaneously entitled enough to screech about muh ruzzia from some Warsaw apartment

>>519187212
>Drones obviously is THE big game changer of the war
Glide bombs have been a thing since world war 2, the guidance systems to get them within a mile of a target just didn't exist yet. In all cases the things retards all over this board call 'drones' are just various forms of guided munitions and frankly this is some hilarious idiocracy shit. Drones have AI that WAR craves and are the FUTURE.

>>519191547
You’re absolutely correct, it’s totally both sides and /pol/ should stop supporting Putinjew (shelamova btw). But what makes ordinary Ukrainians cheer for the deaths of their fellow whites and do KFC burials?

>>519191695
tell me, anon, have you ever left russia?

>>519191756
>But what makes ordinary Ukrainians cheer for the deaths of their fellow whites and do KFC burials?
You. Your soldiers. Your Invasion. Your subhumanity.

>>519191765
Yep, hohlopidor, I’ve been to the Baltics, the country your flag represents lmao, and going to Korea soon probably

>>519191795
>bawk bawk bawk I like KFC burials
Colonel Sanders and his trusty grok, ladies and gentlemen

>>519191819
>Austria
>Baltics
Russian education

>>519186770
>The doctrine of racial quality
So you are inferior to afghans and vietnamese?
Btw genius Germany has already lost to Russia, and they where far larger and more powerful than today

>>519191756
>shelamova
Based, i always mention this.

>>519191819
Oh look, another villagetard newfag. He will then pretend he was joking and cant discern chihahua countries. You literally never interacted with humans outside of russia and think you can judge how hated you are, while calling others entitled.
The projection is fucking crazy.
Go the fuck home. Nobody cares about you. The only reason you are getting attention here is because of your flag.

>>519191852
Great arguments. I thought you are massacring the hohols, anon, and thats why there is so many graves.
But now its not your war that causes this? Marvelous logic. Village Vodka brain.

>>519190678
Reminder

>>519191396
Nafo troon information is accurate tho right?

>>519183944 (OP)
It's still contestrd airspace. By definition you do not have air supremacy.

>>519186378
it wasnt really a loss for the usa. The real losers were Israel. All that money should have been theirs.....

>>519191541
>russniggers
Lol
you are prob literally a nigger

>>519191986
More than Prsvda and RT, yes. Undeniably so.

>>519183944 (OP)
Russians are cringe as fuck now. I used to think that they were powerful and stuff but now they sound like north Korea, all bark no bite.

>>519191861
>apples, carrots, peaches
>LOLE DEY NOT ALL FRUIT CHUD XD
Mutt education everyone
>>519191905
>>519191951
Hiiii grok pidoras did anything explode in the ukranny again? What happened? Can you give me a recipe of actually working ukranny ballistics?

>>519188376
*its

>>519186770
lol no. Germany has no functional military, even today. France is the only singular country in Europe with a functional enough military to probably beat Russia 1 on 1 at this moment and the situation was even worse in 2022. Obviously NATO or even just Europe on the whole could beat Russia if they present a united front just due to the fact that Europeans outnumber Russians 5 to 1 in addition to having way more money and more modern equipment.

Ukraine only held together because Russia decided to give them 8 years of training in a low intensity war that militarized their entire society relative to the failed state fake country of Ukraine in 2013. They really did create the nazi banderite terror state of their own fever dreams. Prior to 2013 that was a fringe minority, maybe 30% of the population in total was pro west and a majority only wanted in EU because it was a route out of the country. Even before 2022 Ukraine was still split 50/50 and Zelensky was a russophone compromise candidate who was open to making a balanced deal. But somehow in the Russian imagination he's a nazi banderite radical narcoterrorist.

Most of Indochina is forest which neutralizes airpower. The communists could move about freely without fear of bombing.
(This is in contrast to Germany/Japan/North Korea, which didn't have much forest cover.)
The 2 places where bombing would have made a difference -- the northern capital and major port -- were off-limits to bombing, because politics.

>>519191861
Does american education now cover reading comprehension
Read it again mate, and slowly

>>519191795
>>519191951
What I love about this is hohlopidor shill slipped and sent 2 replies to the same post lol. Kys hohol until you get fabbed

>>519192068
No

It's so funny looking at all these posts by Russians and their supporters about how they are strong and totally winning.
And then look at the map and see that they STILL haven't taken day one objectives three fucking years later.

>>519192174
Lol.
K.

>>519186378
not all got shot down + this is over a timeframe for multiple years for an entire theather of war. just to give some perspective if you put that into a bigger picture its "not that much at all".

>>519192161
Like you just did, anon?
Are the cryptohohols with us in the room right now?

>>519183944 (OP)
Air supremacy allows an invasion to begin

Russia can not advance as they have poorly trained and equipped soldiers.

>>519192313
Also they don't have air supremacy and have somehow achieved artillery parity with Ukraine even though they started with the largest store of artillery systems and shells in the world

did you know that russia has donkey superiority?

>>519189608
>in 91 the iraqis had a very robust air defense system- one of the best in the world.
Who are you trying to bullshit, Moshe? Iraqi AD was one directional (against Iran) and built by France who leaked the schematics to the US. When US attacked, it was like playing with cheatcodes. And it was like one, two generations behind modern systems.

If you want an example of US facing non-compromised AD, look at Serbia.

>>519191541
only jews hate Russians

>>519191573
...and you are a real woman.

>>519192566
>look at Serbia.
This is supposed to make sense?

>>519183944 (OP)
>but this time it will definitely work
"Russia has launched more than 51000 guided aerial bombs against Ukraine since the start of its full-blown invasion nearly three years ago"

>>519192566
Not to mention mutts had 1M western troops and still didn't even attempt to go near bagdhad or kill Saddam, instead settled on the old kill civilians and bombing power, sewerage, water and other civilian infrastructure

>>519191969
Reminder of the reminder

>>519192587
>be white
>hate russia because they're mutts
>some amerimutt tells me i'm not white and i'm a jew apparently
kekaroo kys brown transvestite

>>519192587
>only jews hate Russians
no one hates russians more than pootin. that's why he gets them killed by the thousands every week

>>519183944 (OP)
And still didn't win their 3-day war?
Huh, says a LOT.

>>519192785
Except they did the same thing 10 years later and with a fraction of the troops in desert storm your retard

>>519192235
it's so funny looking at all of these posts by pro nato pro tranny pro liberal pro nigger subhumans coping as their worldview and ideology dies in real time

>>519192161
Americans have every right to be livid with Russia for its failure because we had a deal
My country spends trillions annually to keep an army maintained that’s only real purpose is to fight god or the whole world in an afternoon.
And the best Russia can do is kill themselves indefinitely?
We have spent the world economy several times over preparing to fight you, and you can’t kill us for our sins? We should probably kill you for wasting 350 trillion USD on principle.

>>519192823
so you are

>>519192953
Three years and they lost half of what they originally had in 2022.
Why can't they take even day one objectives?

>>519186770
germany doesnt need to fight.
we have something better, we have butthurt ex soviets ready to die for us
thats called 4dchess

>>519183944 (OP)
>Russia doesn't have air superiority
that's why they have to use glide bombs from far away because if they fly too close they'll be blown the fuck up retard.

3 days to Kiev, hallo? Where are you???

Also a brief reminder for pidors with short memory span.

>>519192652
USAF attacked Serbia in 1999. Despite overwhelming advantage in numbers, Americans failed to disable Serbian AD which deterred USAF from carrying out precise bombings and thus rendered their campaign against Serbian military ineffective. Eventually Amis resorted to targeting civilian sites from altitudes where the old Soviet systems in Serbian arsenal could not reach and won.

If Iraqis were not compromised (and were at least as white as Serbs), Americans would not be able to achieve air supremacy during their invasion.

>>519192862
>>519193042
you will literally never be a woman jadnigger, you ugly freak

>>519192995
you are being reported to Ofcom, faggot
enjoy a 100 years of noose for accessing 4chan without a loicense, bongmutt

>>519192938
Desert Storm was the 91 campaign. Operation Iraqi Freedom was code name of the 03 invasion.

>>519193111
>Americans failed to disable Serbian AD
No, they conducted effective SEAD which is why they lost less aircraft to the supposedly prepared Serbs than to the Iraqis.
And they also achieved the objectives they set out to do with the bombing

>Eventually Amis resorted to targeting civilian sites
Cope.

>as white as Serbs
>as Serbs
Lol

>>519193229
My ESL is acting up, I meant as in they achieved OIF with a fraction of the troops they had in desert storm

Why chugtrannies don't like the great sucksess of Pozzia?

>>519192587
>only jews hate Russians
imagine believing this

>>519193289
shalom and mazel tov, kike subhuman

>>519193503
Oy vey!

russia failed
simple as

>>519183944 (OP)
>Russia dropped 268 guided bombs in a single day
European countries were running out of guided bombs after dropping 600~ of them over 6 months in Libya.

ukraine was dumb enough to be used as expendable cannon fodder by grudge holding jews in the uk in order to provoke a regime change in Russia.
It failed completely and now ukraine will be thrown in the trash like a used condom.
To think Putler wanted to cuck out in 2022,
but Boris Johnson and rest of ZOG crew stepped in and snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.
(Comedy gold)
Now Russia will achieve total victory, ukraine willl uniliterally and unconditionally surrender
there isnt going to be a "ceasefire" so london can catch its breath
there isnt going to be some nato patrolled "demilitarized zone" on Russias border

the ukraine will become an 'un-marked grave' to the liberal world order
forgotten and buried, like the hundreds of thousands of men it pointlessly sent to their death

the fate of the ukraine is to be demilitarized, de-industrialized,
and turned into an effeminant rump-state that the eu will innudate with lgbtq propaganda,
inextricably tied to the meager and and inssufficient 'aide' to rebuild whatever is left of your country
after Russia is done smashing it

>>519183944 (OP)
>109
you gotta up those numbers those are rookie numbers

>>519193755
>European countries were running out of guided bombs after dropping 600~ of them over 6 months in Libya.

dont worry, europe will be completely unstoppable and re-armed by *checks notes* 2130

>>519193289
>No, they conducted effective SEAD
SEAD=/=DEAD
SEAD is like stunning. You fire shitton of anti-radiation missile and force AD to turn off their radars and reposition. Rendering it temporarily ineffective, but once your spam ends the AD is back in action. And those missiles are expensive, you cant keep it up for a prolonged campaign.

Traditional SEAD/DEAD tactics developed by Americans are basically like attacking spearmen with knights in AoE2. You can win by spending enough resources but you will lose in a remotely symmetrical engagement. Right way to do DEAD was demonstrated by Jews in Mole Cricket 19.

>And they also achieved the objectives they set out to do with the bombing
Yes, but no. They started the war only targeting military, but their bombing was extremely ineffective as USAF had to bomb from safe distance they were easily fooled by decoys. Hence they ended up achieving their objectives by targeting civilian infrastructure, which is much easier to bomb.

>>519183944 (OP)
It worked on us, because unlike sandniggers, we dont want to live in rubble, and indiscriminately targeting civilian infrastructure helps

>>519194376
thats fuckin nuts

>>519191217
ukraine being so buck broken it can never pose a threat ever again

>>519183944 (OP)
Shock and awe we dropped 1500 in a day for 2 days straight so 3k. Is 260 supposed to be impressive

>>519194549
1500 JDAMs?

>>519194527
When was it a threat to begin with? It’s a threat now!

>>519194527
hear hear

>>519195114
>When was it a threat to begin with?
gee I wonder you retarded /k/ike

Damn, both miggers and nafoids are seething here

>>519195114
>>519195887
keep crying nafo troons

>>519196716
1991 borders, when? nafo /k/ike

>>519191421
>listening to nafo troons
>Hey this tank crew is slightly asiatic
>This means the west isnt importing literal SHITSKIN NIGGERS AND JEETS who are far darker into their countries
LMAO the audacity.
There are mystery meat niggers fighting mystery meat kazakhs on the frontlines yet we're still debating who is whiter.
Kill yourself secret agent klaus.

>>519194025
You are a fool, or operating with knowledge decades out of date. Modern US anti-radiation missiles can simply lock on to the last known location of the radar and hit that, if it is hastily turned off. Accuracy goes down, but not enough to save the radar network.

>>519184387
that's not what he said.. kill every jew, every hohol politician and elite but stop killing White men...

>>519183944 (OP)
for a supposed world power that's extremely pathetic lmao

>>519188147
One of those retards again.
The tank did not break down, watch the video in its entirety before proudly looking like a moron.

There's no credible information about the tank having engine problems either. There's most likely issues with the design, hence why they don't put it in mass production, they're just not satisfied with it. Any military has had (and continues to have) its share of vehicle designs that took far too long and cost way too much to put into mass production.

I mean look at the absolute disaster that was the F-35 program. The plane development cost the US an arm, spent 20 years in software debug limbo, and ended up being a big pile of hot garbage that countries buy just for political reasons (and to get US nukes by procuration).

The difference is that the Russians know how to make tanks, they've made more tanks that all other nations combined multiple times over since tanks are a thing. Westoids are just fantasizing about their Western overpriced garbage because of some marginal gadgets like blowout panels, that don't even save the crew most of the time.
Russia can produce up to 4 tanks for every Western MBT but a Western MBT cannot provide the value of 4 Russian tanks, and that's what matters. The Germans went the same route in WWII, but at least that's because they had no choice, not because they're retarded like the current West with their military designs that are only made to look good and sell, not win a war.

>>519197815
Low IQ post. Memory capability has been employed in ARMs since like 1970s.

>Accuracy goes down, but not enough to save the radar network
Yes, enough to save the network, as empirically demonstrated in the campaign we are talking about.

>>519200186
Lower IQ post, you are unfathomably retarded if you think this capability went nowhere in the last 25 years.

>>519191683
No, turns out when you hide amongst the population and fight a guerilla war dressed up like civilians, THEN a lot of civilians die

>>519200507
It cant magically track the target during repositioning, you filthy mutt.

>>519189049
>they launch their shitty glidebombs from 60km away
Lol? A GPS guided bomb with no known countermeasure is shitty to you?

>>519201535
If its functional and cost effective, the US hates it. However when they pay ten times as much for the exact same thing with same capabilities its another wunderwaffe

>>519188147
Retard logic. Of course you can build more aircraft. So can russia.
You what you can also make more of? People. Thus, by your logic, losses don't matter in any war.

>>519201800
no they cant. otherwise they would have
money nyetu. willpower nyetu. and brains nyetu

>>519183944 (OP)
>pic
woah what's that shit on the bomb, is she ok? looks like a sweaty dynamite

>>519201133
It doesn't need to, Eurotrash. Just needs marginal accuracy improvements based on the track it did have, bonus points if the missiles can talk to each other and triangulate, or if the fighters launching them can handle that part immediately before launch. One does not simply pack up a serious radar system and leave with it in under a minute, often more like 30 seconds, which is what is required to dodge a HARM.

>>519186378
this nigga just copy/pasted his chatgpt response

>>519186770
wat
We wouldn't last a week lolz.

>>519186501
>Comparing direct numbers is classic intellectual gymnastics
Fucking kill yourself

>>519186549
#savestinky

>>519184387
you did it once not long ago

>>519183944 (OP)
that guiding setup for the bomb looks crude as fuck, gbus are at least asthetic those things lookes like it came out of the workshop of an alcoholic that made it with scrap metal..

i hope you are drafted and die

from what i've seen they dont want to and need to do much from air. just pummeling piggers with artillery is enough. in cas any other country decides to meddle, its better to keep a reserve.

>>519184311
its satanic

>>519192110
>They really did create the nazi banderite terror state of their own fever dreams.
basado
>t.pole

>>519184387
surrender to christ, stop serving satan

>>519205571
Ok faggot

>https://www.rt.com/russia/626546-russian-glide-bomb-nikolaev/

>Russian forces may have tested an upgraded glide bomb capable of striking targets up to 150km away, according to a military-focused Telegram channel.

>Regular Russian glide bombs are typically older gravity bombs modified with aerodynamic kits that add precision and extended range. Most existing models have an estimated reach of between 40 and 70km, depending on weight and deployment altitude. The weapons are considered cost-effective and highly destructive, allowing Russian aircraft to demolish fortified Ukrainian frontline positions from a safe distance.

>>519185094
Afghanistan is ruled by Taliban right now. Those were the guys USA went in to defeat.

>>519190011
>>519187742
>>519190986
Why are retards suddenly pretending as if that wasn't the goal?

>>519183944 (OP)
Funny

The West destroyed the East by sending old, outdated, and surplus items instead of disposing of them to a small country.

>>519184387
>>just surrender and balkanize
That's what you're literally demanding from Ukraine you fucking jeet IQ snow nigger. And if the winning was going so winningly all of this shilling wouldn't be necessary. You faggots just keep embarrassing yourselves here constantly.

>>519207910
>Afghanistan is ruled by Taliban right now. Those were the guys USA went in to defeat.

What bot writes this shit it destroyed their entire army in desert storm and before. It was so laugably one sided the niggers had to run to pakistan and hide in mountains as we babied their woman and children and secured the oil. If they masacred everyone and took over it wouldve been a total victory but they have mercy and just took the oil.

>>519184387
>>519184311
>>519183944 (OP)
>get a central bank in every country they invaded
why do people think 'america' lost these 'wars? the goal was set beforehand and was achieved every time

>>519209887
Can you say that again in english?
Faggot