Thread 519185280

How can we be 100% certain in the Bible's authenticity?

>>519185280 (OP)
By accepting that it's more wrong than right.

>>519185280 (OP)
>David cross

>70 AD: Romans destroy Second Temple in Jerusalem.
>Jews lose physical center of worship and identity.
>They go underground, global, ideological.
>No contemporary evidence Jesus existed.
>They create a mythos to survive and to conquer.
>The Bible becomes the Third Temple.
>Portable. Infectious. Indestructible.
>Strength turned to pacifism.
>Duty turned to guilt.
>Honor turned to obedience.
>Christianity spreads like a virus.
>Europe forgets its gods.
>The cross replaces the sword.
>The temple isn’t in Jerusalem, it’s in your head.
>The Bible is the sacred core, carried everywhere.
>Every church is an outpost of the Third Temple.
>Every believer is an unwitting priest.
>Jews mastered portability: trade, money, media and now religion.
>Christianity was the Trojan horse.
>The final temple isn’t coming.
>It already rules the world.

>>519185480
>Jews wrote a book about how Jews are the enemies of all mankind and the children of the devil and tortured God to death

>>519185280 (OP)
Well I make the same argument to America's phony baloney history WITH tons of evidence and proof, and not just the Whisky Rebellion either, and people turn into ranting leftists basically. Some things people just cannot accept. Americans don't do very well with mirrors I've noticed, scared what they might see.

>>519185620
Christcucks have built their entire ideology around Jews—not just as enemies, but as a necessary piece of their entire religious system. Christianity is a Jewish creation, worshipping a Jewish messiah, following a book written by Jews, and yet, whenever things go wrong, they instinctively turn to Jews as the eternal scapegoat. This isn’t just religious contradiction—it’s a built-in mechanism of control. Christianity doesn’t function without Jews because it was designed to keep its followers forever chasing an enemy that it simultaneously worships. The more Christians obsess over “the Jewish problem,” the less they look at the Jewish origins of their own faith, trapping them in a never-ending cycle of submission and resentment.

And yet, for all their seething, you have to wonder—why do they keep Jews around? Why haven’t they ever truly tried to erase them? Because without Jews, Christianity collapses. It needs an enemy to sustain itself, a villain to explain away its failures, a group to blame for why its prophecies never come true. Christianity has never been about strength or sovereignty—it has always been a slave morality, where suffering is noble and submission is holy. But to keep the slaves from revolting, they need to believe there’s a hidden hand keeping them down, rather than admitting they are slaves by choice. Jews play the role of both masters and scapegoats, ensuring that Christcucks stay obedient while always believing they’re fighting against some grand, cosmic evil. They don’t want Jews gone—they need them to keep their delusion alive.

>>519185710
Shitler was Christian too

>>519185620
Truth but 99% of Christians will claim thats not the real
Translation despite it being very obvious and the church fathers and near two thousand years of priests and clergy agreeing on it.
Most don’t even believe Kikes were responsible at all for Christ’s crusification.

>>519185933
Only after you exterminated the "European" Jews in ww2 you had some short time of lets cut them some slack

>>519185932
The Nazis were not merely a rogue fascist movement but a calculated instrument of imperial strategy aimed primarily at weakening Russia and reshaping the global order. By unleashing brutal conflict on the Soviet Union, they helped drain its resources and manpower, making it vulnerable to post-war containment by Western powers. Simultaneously, the Nazis’ persecution of Jews accelerated their migration to Palestine, facilitating the establishment of Israel—a key geopolitical asset for the Western empire. This dual role made Nazism both a destructive force and a means to advance long-term imperial goals, rather than simply an ideological enemy to be crushed.

After the war, the empire discarded the most dangerous Nazi elements while selectively absorbing useful personnel—scientists, intelligence operatives, and propagandists—into Western institutions like the CIA and NASA. This absorption ensured continuity of knowledge and tactics under a new, more palatable guise. Thus, fascism was transformed from an existential threat into a component within the Western system, allowing the empire to consolidate its global dominance. The Nazi project, far from being annihilated, was repurposed to extend and secure imperial control throughout the Cold War and beyond.

>>519185932
Yes and he took the easy option for scapegoat in the bible
Hitler ideology is also racial supremacy, not religious dogmas
And look at how the whole Christendom reacted, they all ban together to take down Hitler to protect their precious jews

>>519186284
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>>519186197
Russia became a superpower after World War II , not before , and they were considered pretty weak and that's why Shitler invaded them

>>519186284
If Hitler had won wouldnt it make revelations impossible and thus disprove christianity?
No jews
No third temple
No anti christ
No mark of the beast

>>519185620
That'd be the ultimate form of Chutzpah, now wouldn't it Mr. Shlomo? Something you jews know all too well, as do the rest of us.

>>519186569
Don't Chutzpah me

>>519185639
Not enough people got to play the game of telephone as kids, and I mean both forms.
>1st form everyone tells the same story at whisper to the next, emulating information going quiet over time.
>Results in small but distinct changes to the info
>2nd form, each person changes 1 small thing each retelling to make it spicier or more heroic or epic.
By the time it reaches even kid 10, it's become the tallest tale ever.
To think this couldn't or wouldn't happen to any oral tradition in human history, especially if then finally written down years later, is extremely naive. Criminally naive.
The talmud is absolutely false and should be destroyed.
Any belief system subsisting off word of mouth is abhorrent and a cruel, twisted mockery of morality.

>>519186454
The West established its post-World War II order by claiming victory as a means to legitimize its global dominance and reshape international structures to its advantage. By positioning themselves as the triumphant liberators who defeated fascism and tyranny, Western powers—primarily the United States and Britain—crafted a narrative of moral superiority that justified expanding their influence worldwide. This victory allowed them to redraw borders, create new political institutions, and establish economic systems that entrenched their control.

Key institutions like the United Nations, NATO, the International Monetary Fund, and the World Bank were created under Western leadership to manage global affairs on their terms. Through these bodies, the West set the rules of trade, security, and diplomacy, ensuring alignment with its interests. The victory narrative also marginalized or erased alternative power centers—especially the Soviet Union’s role was reframed to fit Cold War propaganda—allowing the West to present itself as the architect of a new, stable world order. This claim to victory was less about actual liberation and more about consolidating empire under a guise of legitimacy and peace.

>>519186860
The British empire collapsed after WW2

>>519185280 (OP)
You can't, the best the bible can be used for is hearsay (a rumor)

All gods are mythologies
All holy books are fictional
All religions are only cultural phenomenon

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Iep4gnmJeRE

>>519187028
What we see today is the continuation of that project. The American administration, like all since the 1940s, is not a sovereign government in the traditional sense. It is the managerial class of an empire that hides behind the language of democracy and human rights while enforcing a global monopoly on finance, narrative, and violence. The seemingly diverse factions of the West — liberal, conservative, Zionist, corporate, even post-fascist — are not in opposition. They are interlocking parts of a singular system, united by their opposition to any Eastern resurgence. This is why Russia, and now China, are treated as existential threats: not because of tyranny or aggression, but because they stand outside the script. The war in Ukraine is not about freedom — it is the next chapter in a war that never ended.

The illusion of moral clarity — that the Allies defeated evil and built a better world — has served its purpose. But now, as cracks appear in the system, more people are beginning to see that the real war was never between nations or ideologies, but between a tightly controlled empire and the possibility of multipolar freedom. What we call history has been a managed narrative. And what we call peace has been a carefully maintained illusion.

>>519185280 (OP)
This is a Jewish way to say the Torah is better.

>>519187159
If that lwas true United States would have eliminated any kind of opposition during 45 to 49 when they were the only superpower is possession of atomic weapons , and China and Russia were most exhausted after years of fighting German and Japanese fascism

Because there is evidence.

>>519185280 (OP)
N9ooooooo But But Jew on Stick!!! Muh Israel!!!!

>>519187622
That’s exactly the point — they didn’t need to eliminate opposition outright, only to stabilize it under their terms. Total destruction of Russia or China would have broken the balance that justified the new American-led order. A controlled enemy was far more useful than a defeated one. The Cold War wasn’t an accident — it was an operating system. It allowed endless military spending, ideological mobilization, and the subordination of allies through fear of the “Red menace.” By letting the USSR and later China survive, the U.S. preserved the illusion of global polarity while ensuring that neither could truly rival its financial and institutional dominance.

The atomic monopoly wasn’t used to annihilate, but to intimidate. The world was already so shattered that direct conquest wasn’t needed; economic reconstruction under American oversight achieved the same end with cleaner optics. Through the Marshall Plan, NATO, and the creation of the IMF and World Bank, Washington didn’t destroy its enemies — it reorganized the planet around them. In essence, the U.S. chose containment over conquest, because the existence of a perpetual foe kept its empire self-perpetuating and morally justified.

>>519185480
Shlomo, your entire inbred talmudic cult was created centuries after Christianity was invented by the Greeks in Alexandria.
Cope and seethe, kike rat.

>>519185280 (OP)
The difference between the bible and quran is that the followers do not attempt to cover it up, and instead attempt to mitigate it rather than pretending that all accumulated corruptions are intentional.

There's a reason that the muslims are the refugees.

>>519188110
Ancient Greek philosophy shared fundamental worldviews with what we call Eastern traditions. The Greeks embraced cyclical time and cosmic cycles rather than linear progress, believed in reincarnation (metempsychosis) across Pythagorean, Orphic, and Platonic schools, and saw material reality as illusion or shadows of true reality (Plato's cave as maya). They understood human life as governed by fate (moira) that even gods couldn't escape, emphasized contemplative wisdom over material achievement, and developed non-dualistic metaphysics in Neoplatonism remarkably similar to Advaita Vedanta. The Greeks were culturally hybrid, absorbing influences from Egypt, Persia, and the Near East, making them far more "Eastern" in outlook than the modern Western narrative admits.

The shift from ancient to modern Western thought occurred primarily through Christianity's adoption of Jewish theological frameworks. Jewish concepts—linear time moving from creation to redemption, free will and individual moral responsibility, a real material world imbued with meaning rather than illusion, good versus evil as cosmic struggle, and history as purposeful progression—fundamentally replaced Greek cyclical and fatalistic worldviews. What we call the "Western mind" today—individualistic, progress-oriented, morally dualistic, emphasizing agency and world-transformation over acceptance—derives not from Greek philosophy but from Jewish theology transmitted through Christianity, then secularized through the Enlightenment while retaining these underlying cosmological assumptions.

>>519185710
>Christcucks have built their entire ideology around Jews
I don't see how they have.
Christianity is all about worshipping God.

>>519188019
If that where the case why they demanded unconditional surrender from Japan and Germany , after all they more than anyone kept Russia and China balanced , and could buy weapons and oil from United States in a forever war

>>519188305
Today’s Christcucks are basically unpaid interns for the state—they parrot "law and order" rhetoric, glorify the military, and treat obedience to authority as some kind of holy virtue. They’ve twisted Jesus into a pro-government mascot, as if he’d ever salute a flag or bless a drone strike. You’ll find them defending cops no matter what, siding with landlords over the poor, and clinging to nationalism like it’s gospel. Their faith isn’t in Christ—it’s in the system. The same system that turns churches into tax-free echo chambers and sells consumerism wrapped in Bible verses. They’re so domesticated they think voting for a “Christian” politician is how you follow Jesus, like Christ ever campaigned for Caesar.

They worship stability over truth, power over justice, and comfort over conviction. Instead of challenging empire, they bless it. Instead of flipping tables, they fold hands. Their churches preach conformity and fear disguised as morality, training people to be docile citizens who pray for corrupt leaders and call it faith. They’ll shame the poor, ignore the imprisoned, and suck up to wealth while claiming moral superiority—all while pretending they’re following a man who hung out with outcasts and pissed off the powerful. Modern Christianity isn’t the way of Jesus; it’s the PR wing of empire, staffed by people too scared or too brainwashed to realize they’re cheering for the crucifiers.

>>519188293
>The shift from ancient to modern Western thought occurred primarily through Christianity's adoption of Jewish theological frameworks
There is no such thing as a jew theological framework.
Christianity was entirely invented by the Greeks in Alexandria, with a basis in Atenism (the oldest monotheistic religion).
That's why all the ancient Christian theologian are Greeks or Egyptians and why the oldest authentic Bible is written in Greek.
You and your foul talmudic cult arose centuries later.
You have nothing of your own.
You kikes are nothing but a seething bunch of wandering mongrel.

>>519188325
Because “unconditional surrender” wasn’t about ending war — it was about rewriting the world’s hierarchy. Japan and Germany weren’t meant to remain sovereign powers balancing anyone; they were to be dismantled, purified, and rebuilt as American satellites. Both were absorbed into the new imperial grid as obedient industrial hubs — Japan in the Pacific, West Germany in Europe — perfectly positioned to contain Russia and China while serving U.S. capital. Their destruction was necessary precisely so they could be rebuilt under supervision. Washington didn’t want independent strong nations buying weapons; it wanted dependent client states producing them for its system.

The pre-war balance you describe — nations trading, competing, and occasionally warring — was too unpredictable. The U.S. sought a permanent, managed order, not a cyclical one. “Unconditional surrender” wasn’t vengeance, it was purification through control. By annihilating the old nationalist cores of Germany and Japan, the U.S. eliminated the possibility of a Eurasian alliance and created two pillars of its global architecture. The irony is that total defeat was their ticket into empire — not freedom, but reprogramming.

>>519188305
Worshipping a Jewish god with instructions from a fundamentally Jewish narrative. /pol/'s Christians are willfully blind to the essentially levantine nature of their religious narrative while Christians outside of /pol/(The majority of Christendom) fall down in tearful joy at the mention of anything semitic.

>>519188426
>Today’s Christcucks are basically unpaid interns for the state—they parrot "law and order" rhetoric
Christianity is irrelevant in the secular world, it's why everything went to shit.

>>519185280 (OP)
How can we be 100% certain that David Cross is funny without 3 decades of Jewish producers giving him movies and TV shows?

>>519188464
Christianity’s modern identity is so hollow that it has to latch onto right-wing political movements just to stay relevant. These zealots know their faith is too weak to stand on its own, so they desperately play chameleons, bending and twisting their beliefs to fit in with nationalist and conservative talking points. “Traditional values”? Slapped on like a cheap sticker. “Western civilization”? As if Christianity didn’t spend centuries tearing it down and replacing it with dogma.

It’s embarrassing watching these clowns abandon their so-called eternal truths just to ride the coattails of whatever political movement will have them. They aren’t leading the charge—they’re limping along behind, pretending they’re still relevant while screaming about how everyone else is going to hell. Christianity doesn’t inspire anymore; it piggybacks off ideologies with actual momentum, hoping no one notices how irrelevant it’s become.

This isn’t faith; it’s survival instinct. They know Christianity has no legs left to stand on, so they’ve propped it up with political crutches. But the cracks are showing, and their desperate attempts to blend in only reveal how empty their belief system really is. When your religion’s survival depends on being a glorified mascot for a political agenda, it’s clear you’ve already lost.

Kike got mad lmao
Look at the spam

>>519188505
Jesus wasn’t some soft-spoken moral mascot—he was a walking middle finger to the power structures of his time. He trashed temple commerce, mocked legalism, and told people they didn’t need priests or empires to access the divine. That terrified both the religious elite and the Roman authorities. You don’t execute a man like that because he told people to be nice—you kill him because he was waking people up. His message was a direct threat to the machinery of control, and they nailed him up for it.

But empires adapt. Rome saw that persecution just made Christianity spread faster, so they flipped the script. They absorbed the cult, castrated its message, and rebuilt it as a state-sanctioned obedience engine. What was once a spiritual rebellion got turned into a control tool draped in crosses and incense. And now the modern Christcuck kneels not to God, but to the same empire Jesus resisted—defending governments, institutions, and systems that would crucify him all over again. They think they're serving Christ, but they’re just parroting the propaganda of his executioners.

>>519188019
>—
AI nigger.

>>519188489
>Worshipping a Jewish god
Christians don't worship money, shlomo.
> fundamentally Jewish narrative
You kikes didn't even exist back when the Bible was authored by the Greeks.
Fucking seething mongrel.
Your talmudic cult arose centuries later with its basis on biblical narrative.
You have no genetic, cultural or even theological connection to the authors of the Bible.
Just Kys!

>>519188575
>and told people they didn’t need priests or empires to access the divine.
Yeah! They just need to pray to a Jew on a stick, because that jew on a stick is God's son. But he's also God. And God's son. He's his own son, and a ghost too. He's all 3 of those things. Anyway, you need to pray to that zombie jew on a stick to access the divine, because reasons.

>>519185280 (OP)
God would not let his word be corrupt.

>>519188535
>>519188604

Christcucks are nothing but spineless dogs, groveling at the feet of an imaginary master they’ve invented to justify their pathetic existence. They live on their knees, drooling for approval and begging for scraps of salvation from a god that doesn’t hear them because it doesn’t exist. Their obedience isn’t faith—it’s servility, the mark of creatures too weak, too broken, to face reality without the crutch of their delusions. They’re not just slaves; they’re willing slaves, pathetic animals licking the boot of an illusion.

Every prayer, every act of worship, is a whimper from these mindless mutts, desperate to please a master that isn’t there. They fear punishment like beaten dogs and dream of rewards they’ll never see, chasing their tails in circles of guilt and self-abasement. They are not men—they are cowards in chains, too gutless to break free, too stupid to realize they hold the leash. Their ‘god’ doesn’t rule them; their weakness does. Christcucks are the lowest form of life, crawling in the dirt they were born for, obedient to nothing but their own failure.

>>519188523
>Christianity’s modern identity
Christianity is meaningless in the modern world.
It has lost any and all political power. >>519188643
> WE WUZZ CHRIST!
I love how the only way a kike can attack Christianity is by accusing Christ of being one of them.
LOL!

>>519188667
>>519188575
Seethe harder, shlomo.

>>519185280 (OP)
>>519185319
>>519185480
>>519185710
>>519185933
>Christians are the REAL problem

>>519188702
>>519188727

The cognitive dissonance of Christian anons is peak comedy: They're literally worshipping a Jewish rabbi as God, following Jewish prophets, reading Jewish holy books, praying to the Jewish god of Abraham, claiming salvation through Jewish bloodlines... while somehow convincing /pol/ to rage against Jewish influence.

The mental gymnastics are incredible - these Christians have convinced themselves they're "based traditionalists" while their entire religion is built on Jewish tradition. They pray to a Jew for salvation while typing out /pol/ screeds against Jewish influence. They quote the Torah (while calling it the Old Testament) in one post, then spread medieval antisemitic propaganda in the next.

They've managed to infect the board with their theological schizophrenia - getting lonely anons to fight their ancient religious battles while being completely blind to the fact their whole belief system is Jewish to its core. They're so deep in their own programming they can't even see the hilarious contradiction: claiming spiritual supremacy through literal Jewish supremacy (chosen people, Jewish messiah, Jewish scriptures).

It's the ultimate mindfuck - they've got you all carrying water in a 2000-year-old religious conflict while being completely oblivious to how thoroughly Jewish their own Christian worldview is. Pure uncut weapons-grade cognitive dissonance.

>>519188702
my brother in kike, Jesus was factually a rabbi.

>>519188736
The fact that people on the right are still “realizing” Jesus was Jewish like it’s some forbidden knowledge just shows how completely braindead parts of the movement have become. They post it like a redpill, wide-eyed and breathless, not realizing they’ve just hit the most basic historical fact imaginable—like discovering water is wet and thinking it’s a deep state secret. It doesn’t shake the foundations of anything except their own pathetic fantasy world, where every truth has to be a plot twist because they’ve been living off comic book memes and racial cope for so long they’ve forgotten how reality works.

This isn’t a redpill—it’s a revelation of just how dumbed down and self-referential the discourse has become. When basic facts are treated as heresy or revelation, you’re no longer dealing with political ideology but with a cult trying to rewrite the world to fit its own memes.

>>519188852
>Jesus was Jewish
He wasn't.
He was a Palestinian.
This is just semantic distortion.
He bore no genetic, cultural or Theological connection to you kike mongrel and he create the most anti kike religion in existence.

>>519188817
He was indeed a teacher.

>>519188913
Jesus wasn’t wise—he was a fool who misunderstood human nature, had no long-term vision, and got himself killed for nothing. He preached submission, passivity, and love for enemies, expecting that this would somehow create a better world, yet his own people rejected him, his followers were persecuted, and his so-called kingdom never arrived. He wandered around making grand proclamations, yet he had no real plan, no ability to lead, no power to enforce his ideas. He told people to "turn the other cheek," and in the end, he got slapped down by both the Jewish priests and the Roman state. His life ended exactly as it was destined to—as a pathetic spectacle of weakness, hanging from a cross, begging for a father who abandoned him.

And look at what his religion became—a tool for conquest, corruption, and contradiction, constantly splintering, constantly being reinterpreted, never able to maintain the purity he supposedly intended. If he was wise, his teachings wouldn’t have immediately fallen into chaos. If he was wise, his so-called divine message wouldn’t have required centuries of debate, reform, and brutal enforcement just to survive. His entire legacy is failure. His own followers spent more time killing each other over doctrine than following his commands, and the institutions built in his name became nothing but centers of political power and hypocrisy. A truly wise man creates something lasting, something stable, something that works. Jesus created a religion that couldn’t even hold itself together without endless bloodshed and revision.

>>519185280 (OP)
well you can tell that the bible isn't authentic because they didn't include the gospel of Judas.

>>519185280 (OP)
Dead sea scrolls confirm the Bible and I'm pretty sure I trust the Bible over "David Cross".

>>519189515
you can trust your jew on a cross, the rest of us can trust a jew named cross

>>519188606
>Huuurr duur we don't worship a Jewish god
Where you gain knowledge of Yahweh? From the fucking Old Testament which is literally the goy edition of the fucking Torah. A fucking narrative which originates in THE SEMETIC FUCKING LEVANT. Claiming is not Jewish or worse "Sekritly European" is disingenuous garbage, meant as much to deceive yourself as others.
>You kikes didn't even exist back when the Bible was authored by the Greeks.
Pure projection. You call others Jewish while clinging to a narrative that takes place entirely among levantine semites. Are you stupid?
>Your talmudic cult arose centuries later with its basis on biblical narrative.
Purist heebs have been using the "oral torah" an excuse to selectively ignore their own holy text and deceive non-Jews long before they worried enough to put it down in writing. Christniggers act like it gives their goy edition of the written torah more credence (it doesn't).
>You have no genetic, cultural or even theological connection to the authors of the Bible.
Of course not, I'm not a fucking Jew and I don't ape their stupid fucking sandnigger religion. I denounce the Talmud, The Torah, The Bible, the Quran, and your mother for not keeping her legs crossed.
>Just Kys!
No

>>519185280 (OP)
Naturally, you cannot.
Faith in the Word of God is a gift from God.
However, the various different manuscripts of the Bible have no deviation in theology - one would reach the same conclusions about the nature of God and His Will whether you use the Masoretic Text, Septuagint, or Dead Sea Scrolls in combination with any mix of New Testament manuscripts.

This argument was really put to rest with the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls, establishing the Bible as the best preserved book of all time, just as God predestined His Word to be.

The grass withers, the flower fades,
But the word of our God stands forever.
— Isaiah 40:8

The reason why people would not believe in the preservation of God's word is always rooted in sin and an unwillingness to repent.

For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them. For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, both His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse.
— Romans 1:18-20

And this is the judgment, that the Light has come into the world, and men loved the darkness rather than the Light, for their deeds were evil. For everyone who does evil hates the Light, and does not come to the Light lest his deeds be exposed. But he who practices the truth comes to the Light, so that his deeds may be manifested as having been done by God.”
— John 3:19-21

>>519185280 (OP)
>>519185280 (OP)
The disgusting jew is right, obviously. He's rubbing it in.

Obviously the bible has been proven to be utter crap a million times. But it's the basis for normiethink.
>Without the bible, why shouldn't I, like, eat my baby?!

how about
>why worship the jewish God?
>why not worship your own, faggot?

>>519186762
thats why it was all written down really really close to the time of the event either by eyewitnesses themselves or dictated by them to an amanuensis. From there we can have an incredibly high degree of confidence in the preservation of the textual tradition over time because of how far and wide it was all distributed.
Now, when we have more manuscript evidence that ever before and they can all be compared to each other, we see that aside from some spell differences and a couple marginal notes being included in the maintext in some cases, there is no chance that the text has been altered. God set it all up like an error correction mechanism.

>>519188852
>The fact that people on the right are still “realizing” Jesus was Jewish like it’s some forbidden knowledge
nobody thinks this. maybe you did.

>>519185620
>about how Jews are the enemies of all mankind and the children of the devil and tortured God to death
Literally doesn't say any of this.

>>519189793
>Old Testament which is literally the goy edition of the fucking Torah.
no its not. The Torah is part of jewish bible just like its part of ours, since Torah is the first 5 books. Then they have the Neviim and the Ketuvim, the Prophets and the Writings, which are fully present in our bible too. They call the entire thing the Tanakh, and we call it the OT

>>519185444
>Tabernacle of moloch

>>519185280 (OP)
Isn't he a jew?

>>519186054
Why did Jews killed 60 MILION in Russia?

>>519191514
Cross was born in Roswell, Fulton County, Atlanta, Georgia, to Jewish parents, Barry and Susi Cross.[3][4][1] His father is an English immigrant, who emigrated from Leeds, England.

>>519185280 (OP)
We just have to pretend at some point a Jew was willing to say the truth and another to write the truth… it’s very difficult to believe but that’s why it’s called faith.
But after that trustworthy European scholars translated it.

>>519191665
The Septuagint was literally written by Europeans and is the oldest translation of the old testament

>>519191454
15" Then Jacob went down to Egypt, where he and our ancestors died. 16 Their bodies were brought back to Shechem and placed in the tomb that Abraham had bought from the sons of Hamor at Shechem for a certain sum of money."

Other than Joseph Are they really buried in Shechem ?

>>519191592
Killed how ?

>>519191976
Nigga, I'm talking about the star of David being the tabernacle of moloch

>>519192015
Starvation, shooting, hanging, bombing,you name it

>>519185280 (OP)
>How can we be 100% certain in the Bible's authenticity?

We cant. Most translations are pure political bullshit.

If you don't read Latin stick to the King James, if you do - The Douhy Rheims translation, also known as the Gospel of St. Jerome.

Everything else is bait and heresy.

I feel the same way about the holocaust. The history has been rewritten so much that I just don't believe it.

>>519191204
ALSO just for the sake of argument, suppose IF God fostered a relationship with pre-literate humans and sent a living embodiment of his word to them, how would that look like/ play out in this world?

You can presuppose the gospel is a pile of lies and exaggerations from the telephone game, but you rule out the distinct possibility of there being truth behind the history. All history has truth behind it... and in this case the clearly shared kernel of truth is that Jesus came via miraculous birth, claimed to be the Son and taught/ counseled us, was executed by the state, and rose from the dead 3 days later. There's no denying that.

>>519192015
bolsheviks through shooting and forced labor, camp guards and admins were largely ashkenazim.
funnily enough, after the war, Stalin purged them too for: being too zealous in their comunistic camp administration, lol

>>519185280 (OP)
Pondering on the veracity of christianity and the bible should make you an atheist in 5 minutes.

>>519185280 (OP)
The re-editing is how you check that's it's correct.

That's how all books work dumb fucks.

Only Jews lie when they consult on modern translations of the 20th century.

>>519185280 (OP)
we can't
/thread

>>519187028
No that was WW1, the USA forced them to decolonize.

>>519185620
Check out

>>519188110
Christianity was invented by Jews in Jerusalem though and then exported to the Romans and Greeks to destroy their culture. It was the first psyop.

Typical Jewish lies. The Bible has been on trial for thousands of years. It passes the authenticity test. Prepare your anus for the day of vengeance you godless heathens.

>>519188305
Yes, and whose god is that? The god whose chosen peoples are...?

>>519185280 (OP)

I need make no attempt to justify the Lord's existence, He does so of his own accord. And the signs become more and more evident with each passing hour in this new world.
The question is, why do you care? If you had Moses, Jesus, and all the saints & prophets and still don't believe, why bother inquiring at all? Stick to your convictions, this is just a loony fantasy for intellectual black sheep, this isn't for you.

>>519192103
>star of David
Exodus 28:33 Make pomegranates of blue

How can we be 100% certain in anything while you’re at it, disingenous jeet dipfuck.

>>519191409
>They call the entire thing the Tanakh, and we call it the OT
Okay Tanakh then, but whatever, its still doesn't address the main fucking POINT, that the whole thing is a LEVANTINE narrative. LEV-AN-TINE. Say it with me a few times until it penetrates your thick skull. This is the narrative written down by non-European, semitic-language speaking, desert-dwelling brownoids. Call them Jews, Hebrews, Israelites, Levantines, or cum-guzzling usury-ites but no amount of verbal shell games and label swapping changes the truth of what these people fundamentally are: racial aliens, non-Europeans, people who are NOT US. So forgive me if holding onto narrative scraps of their idiotic culture doesn't appeal to me.

>>519192998
Naw, acts 7:43, Amos 5:26

>>519192103
>Starvation
The absolute dictators Mao and Stalin (non Jews) were employing their communist ideas on agriculture , it failed miserably

>>519193184
>Naw, acts 7
15" Then Jacob went down to Egypt, where he and our ancestors died. 16 Their bodies were brought back to Shechem and placed in the tomb that Abraham had bought from the sons of Hamor at Shechem for a certain sum of money."

Other than Joseph Are they really buried in Shechem ?

>>519185280 (OP)
>How can we be 100% certain in the Bible's authenticity?
>is this really a book?

>>519192852
..are all peoples of the world since the coming of Christ?

The way I see it, the Jews were chosen but repeatedly biffed it so often (and to be fair, probably most of our peoples/races would have also... you would think receiving direct orders from God would rearrange your priorities but there's a reason the phrase "being human" doesn't convey excellence) that God had to, out of his compassion for the doomed + failing human race, sent his Son to die for us and open the Kingdom of Heaven to all peoples.
They were chosen, but no longer. Everyone is chosen, and that's the exact opposite of cuckery toward the Jews as you put it

>>519189787
Yeah die on that hill faggot lmao

>>519193332
Humor me for a moment: Why are you here, on /pol/?
I mean, it's a fun board and so forth, but why on Earth would an israeli be here of all places? And more importantly, why be acting like a (Mor or less) normal user?
Surely you have a motivation, I'd like to hear it.

>>519185280 (OP)
Theologians have had this discussion for 3000 years

The “muh bibble is duh truff” was always something told to stupid peasants to keep them in line.
The problem with the 20th century is that it washed these peasants and the nobility together so now we have to treat these asinine ideas with the same gravity as real theology

>>519193285
Fucking slimy faggot

>>519193332
Tf you're talking about?

>>519185280 (OP)
>early life
it's funny how it becomes clear towards the end he's talking only about the New Testament.

>>519193486
>the Jews were chosen
At the time of said "choosing" the jews were still part of Israel, before their David and Solomon were made kings, their corruption divided the kingdom into Israel and Judea, they went to war with each other, and both were destroyed.

>>519185280 (OP)
>David Cross
Sounds Jewish

>>519185280 (OP)
>>519192974
I respect this line of thinking, but on the other hand I do personally wish OP would come around to recognizing God and forming a personal relationship with him. There's probably not a lot I could say to convince him of this right now if he really believes otherwise, but I know God is patient and merciful and has allowed me to wander off into agnosticism and come back to him. All I will say is it's okay to be skeptic, but to truly keep an open mind you do have to allow for the possibility that it's all true. The "fashionable" intellectual stance is to brazenly challenge faith, but if you do find yourself leaning toward doing this, at least be somewhat cognizant that you're making some assumptions and ruling things out without solid evidence to the contrary.

>>519185280 (OP)

Jewish fairy tales belong in the desert.

>>519193894
Appreciate the recap, I admit I don't study the old testament enough and am not super familiar with the story of the Jews post-Moses and the exodus. I know they took to cattle worship in the wilderness, but did eventually make it to Jerusalem with God's grace. Of ocurse I've heard of King David and Solomon the Wise, but generally haven't gone too into the weeds of how their holy kingdom played out.

>>519194092
>I'm not going to read a single other post and contribute to discussion, EPIC THUMBNAIL.JPG
thanks, bud

>>519193778
>Tf you're talking about?
If Stephen was a Jew from Judea and he spoke through the Holy Spirit to the Sanhedrin, he should have known that Abraham bought the Cave of the Patriarchs from Ephron in Hebron and that is where the patriarchs were buried, not in Shechem.

>>519185280 (OP)
Does it matter? Bible thumpers are notorious cherry pickers regardless.

>>519194264
My point is that the only relevant uniquely identifiable characteristic one could use to distinguish who would be called a jew (even in ancient times) did not exist until much later in the story.

the bible means what it says it means. the bits about jesus being a pacifist rabbi calling gentiles dogs and telling his followers to allow themselves to be hit on the face isn't a mistranslation. if you can't deal with being a meek shitskin lover like practically all christians except the ones you get here then it's time to move on and find a different faith

>>519185280 (OP)
nothing else as the most tested of all tested when it comes to legitimacy but Dead Sea scrolls part 2 after Judea and Samaria annex would be nice. Actually, I'm glad everyone's on the same page about prioritizing that one. Thank you, Orange Wonder.

>>519190002
nicely said

>>519185280 (OP)
>How can we be 100% certain in the Bible's authenticity?

What does this even mean? If it means something like "how can we attempt to confirm the events and peoples spoken of in this scripture?" If this is what you mean, then the answer is to compare it to contemporary writings, in which case, plenty of information contained within those books can be corroborated by other writings. A good amount, maybe most even, of the Christian Bible is simply a record of the social/cultural/political climate of the region at the time.

Regardless, this is a shitpost that aims to steer any dialogue towards the supernatural aspects of those books and ridicule it. Pro-tip: People today are every bit as superstitious as the people of antiquity.

>>519192306
>with pre-literate humans and sent a living embodiment of his word to them,
who are the pre literate people you're talking about?

>>519193096
the thing is that this is the wrong way to see it. We believe that the one and only Creator of everything interacted with that people group and that this God then entered into human flesh for the purpose of teaching universal lessons. we dont see it as being only about that people group. they were used as an example.

>>519185480
The question “why follow it?” has two answers, depending on who you are:
If you are a modern nationalist, a traditionalist, a man of the West seeking to restore its strength: You likely shouldn’t follow its modern, pacifist iteration. You would be embracing a philosophy designed to neuter you. Your fight is to reclaim the pre-Christian virtues of your ancestors—honor, strength, loyalty, and sovereignty—while perhaps finding a way to integrate them with a more muscular, tribal, and non-universalist understanding of the faith (e.g., Christian Identity movements, certain strains of Orthodoxy that support national identity).
If you are an individual seeking transcendent meaning and a answer to death: You might follow it because its offer is unique and addresses the core agonies of the human condition in a way that paganism and materialism cannot. You would be betting that the promise of eternal life is true and that the “weakness” of the Christian is actually a higher, spiritual strength that conquers the world through surrender.

>>519185280 (OP)
Prophecies being fulfilled, also it depict jews as evil, if The OT is wrong then maybe jews are good people.

>>519185710
you're mad at Martin Luther for wanting to kill Jews

>>519185932
he used religion to conquer much like Constantine did

>>519185710
I can tell this is AI by the dashes you fucking use you retard

>>519188736
You have let your entire civilization be enslaved by Jews and raped and murdered by their pet hordes. Christianity has objectively failed.

>>519188760
Tradition is the only reason I tolerate them at all, because I know that they value tradition and it feels like change is le bad, therefore sticking with Christianity, but what they need to realize is that it's fucking bullshit designed to enslave them. We will never be free of this shit if we don't grow up.

>>519193635
>I mean, it's a fun board and so forth, but why on Earth would an israeli be here of all places? And more importantly, why be acting like a (Mor or less) normal user?
about a year after oct 7 israel finally realized just how bad their optics were and how they were burning every possible bridge with whites except for the most loyal jewcock sucking servile christians, so they started sending sayanim to post on pol openly with israeli flags to portray them as just regular people.
this is around the same time that you see a LOT of pol posters suddenly have the opinion that being against israel is the same as siding with mudslimes in a pathetic attempt at astroturfing.
there is also the 'brown-coded' psyop that ended recently. go to the archive and search the year 2024 to 2025 and you will see a massive surge in vaguely pro-israel posts with that phrase starting in april 2024 IIRC. they are fucking stupid and didn't realize that '-coded' is leftist newspeak so we spotted it immediately but despite that it continued for a while

before that rough point I don't recall any poltards genuinely engaging with israeli flags in conversation, they were always swarmed with dozens of posts calling them kikes and whatnot and driven out the thread. jews are dogshit at psyoping pol for the most part because they don't understand why we hate them. they fully believe they are in the right so they cannot think like us enough to formulate any compelling narratives except for pushing christianity, which has proven itself historically.