Thread 519200565

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( picrel is how an IDEAL political map of Europe would look like... -- all Slavic nations combined, with the West and East having EQUAL(-ish) and BALANCED access to the Major SEAS )

Daily reminder that your "support" for the ukraine in this war is MISGUIDED and can be EASILY refuted.


PROOF:


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PART 1 ONE:
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You know GERMANY and AUSTRIA, right?

Austria in German is "Österreich" (OesterReich) LITERALLY means "OUTER REACH(es)" (almost same as in English).
( "REACH" is in the sense of "land", "region", "area", "end" , etc. you get the idea )

Sounds a bit "demeaning" to Austrians that their country is named that, no?
Well... Not exactly...

Because "Austrians" are (mostly) ethnically, linguistically and historically (MOSTLY) GERMAN, their natural COLLECTIVE National Aim is to seek reunification with their Motherland one day.
( Obviously, however, this will NOT happen ANY TIME SOON, as the cucked European powers would NOT allow a Re-Unified Grand German State )

THUS, Austrians are content with their CURRENT "demeaning" name, because they don't have any special pretenses or pretends regarding their classification... or... "ROLE", if you will, within the Grander context of the German nation.

They are simply the GERMANS from the OUTER LANDS.
And they are content with that, FOR NOW, until EVENTUALLY they are ONE WHOLE with the Motherland -- Germany again.

CASE CLOSED.

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( TO BE CONTINUED IN NEXT COMMENT -- PART 2 TWO )

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>>519200565 (OP)

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PART 2 TWO:
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"Укpaйнa" (Ukraina) in Russian LITERALLY means "border" -- "reach", "tail-end", "far-off", "end-land" etc. you get the idea.

Sounds a bit "demeaning" to ukrainians that their country is named that, no?
Well... Not exactly...

Because "ukrainians" are (MOSTLY) ethnically, linguistically and historically (mostly) RUSSIAN, their natural COLLECTIVE National Aim, UNTIL RECENTLY, was to seek reunification with their Motherland one day.

THUS, ukrainians, UNTIL RECENTLY were content with their "demeaning" name, because they didn't have any special pretenses or pretends regarding their classification... or... "ROLE", if you will, within the Grander context of the SOVIET ( really, RUSSIAN-led ) nation.

IN FACT, they could only be THANKFUL for their position within the Russian Empire (and later, USSR), because Moscow had ALWAYS been VERY generous with its gifting of newer, and broader and broader territories to the ukrainian Province.

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HOWEVER...

However, once the USSR collapsed and Nationalism was on the rise again, the West saw the ukraine as a useful area through which it could work its anti-Russian geopolitical ambitions.

THUS, ukrainian "Nationalism" was ARTIFICIALLY invented as a TOOL through which said Western aims could be worked and achieved.

This culminated in the 2014 coup in Kiev and outright installation of a Western-appointed puppet in charge of the ukraine.
Suddenly, the two countries, which had ALWAYS been ONE NATION, separated only by a river, were in (almost) full-scale conflict with each other.

BUT...

BUT... please DO NOTICE something interesting:

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( TO BE CONTINUED IN NEXT COMMENT -- PART 3 THREE )

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>>519200565 (OP)
Yugoslavia was not the founding member. It wasn't even in the Warsaw pact. It had it's own loose 3rd bloc with countries like Egypt and Indonesia.

>>519200565 (OP)
>>519200639
no one's gonna read this redditspaced schizoslop

Nah. The western white part of Russia should be united with Europe and we all remove semites and other mongrels. America can tongue everyones anus

>>519200639

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PART 3 THREE:
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BUT...

BUT... please DO NOTICE something interesting:

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The NEW "ukrainian" leadership made NO MOTIONS whatsoever towards RENAMING their newly-purposed "country".

Technically, the recent ukrainian "ELITE" has been claiming full sovereignty and TOTAL DISASSOCIATION with its former Heartland of Moscow Russia.
And, in fact, it has declared a BELLIGERENT POSITION towards it.

BUT STILL,

STILL, they MAINTAIN that DEMEANING name of "ukraina" ...
... When, ostensibly, the VERY FIRST THING they would have done once assuming power, would have been to RE-NAME IT to something historically sensible !!
( such as, FOR EXAMPLE, Kiev, Cossackia, Zaporozh, Don, etc. -- which have ALL been lower-Russian INDEPENDENT states in PAST historical times ... )


... ?!?! WHY ?!?!

Well, because, you see, my friend, this new ukrainian "ELITE" is NOT REALLY "ukrainian" AT ALL !!

It's in fact an ANGLO-13w15н creation, installed from outside, meant to DESTROY ukraine and the RUSSIANS who had been inhabiting it FOR CENTURIES.

It has no regard for "ukrainians" (really, RUSSIANS).. . ... In fact, it would really only DESTROY them, so as to clear the way for a new geopolitical reshaping of that part of the world !!

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*TL;DR:* IT'S ALL IN THE NAME :

The new "ukrainian" "elite" OUTS ITSELF as ANTI-"ukrainian" (i.e. anti-RUSSIAN) by mere virtue of its nominology.

This was was NEVER a Russia - "ukraine" war.
It's a Russia - NATO (anglo-1ude1a war !!)


"Ukraine" , you say ??

Heh... More like...

u-krai-NA(to)ZYst-ia !!

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>>519200743
nooo shiiit ?! :D

it says "IDEAL scenario" in the OP.
Look closer:

Notice something ELSE "interesting" in this map ?? ;]]

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>>519200565 (OP)
what a retarded thread
take your meds bulgaranon
or even better, go back to russia

>>519200565 (OP)
I don't want to share country with croats

BUT STILL,

STILL, they MAINTAIN that DEMEANING name of "ukraina" ...

... When, ostensibly, the VERY FIRST THING they would have done once assuming power, would have been to RE-NAME IT to something historically sensible !!

( such as, FOR EXAMPLE, Kiev, Cossackia, Zaporozh, Don, etc. -- which have ALL been lower-Russian INDEPENDENT states in PAST historical times ... )


... ?!?! WHY ?!?!

Well, because, you see, my friend, this new ukrainian "ELITE" is NOT REALLY "ukrainian" AT ALL !!

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This was was NEVER a Russia - "ukraine" war.
It's a Russia - NATO (anglo-1ude1a war !!)


"Ukraine" , you say ??

Heh... More like...

u-krai-NA(to)ZYst-ia !!

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>>519200565 (OP)
You are clearly delusional so better shut up you little worm.
Russia needs to be decolonised.

>>519201658
>I don't want to share country with croats

you don't have to ! :)

You will ALL be a nation of happily co-sharing YUGO-SLAVS !! :)

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>>519201658
slažem se, jezične i kulturne prepreke su jednostavno prevelike za to

>>519200565 (OP)
I have no problem with Russia and I wish it the best but unfortunately its die hard supporters are ruining my Internet experience so yeah Russia should be nuked (after India)

>>519201908
I don't understand croatian language

>>519201821
Russia to use chink slave laborers to re-purpose it s vast uncharted lands.

OK, so how is that a "LOSS" for Russia, exactly ?? xD

>>519201840
lol, you BELIEVE him ?! xD

Even if you did, that's totally taken OUT OF CONTEXT !!

catalonia memeflag has been гepoгтed multiple times now btw !! :)

bamp

>>519200565 (OP)
starting the thread with a fake edited map is not a good look, nigger

>>519200565 (OP)
>Austria in German is "Österreich" (OesterReich) LITERALLY means "OUTER REACH(es)" (almost same as in English).
( "REACH" is in the sense of "land", "region", "area", "end" , etc. you get the idea )

It means "Eastern Kingdom" you Dunning-Krüger afflicted sped

>>519200565 (OP)
if it worked so well in the past, why did it fail?

>>519204170
that's because you didn't bother to read the VERY FIRST LINE of my OP, naeggah.

>>519204240
>It means "Eastern Kingdom" you Dunning-Krüger afflicted sped

yes, "Reich" also means "STATE", but the ORIGINAL etymological derivation is from "land" / "reach" / "region" .

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>>519204544
Sure, but "öster" absolutely means "Eastern", and "Land" is far more prevalent for the usage you suggest for "Reich".

>>519201184
It was hard to notice what was missing because it is so inconsequential

>>519204751
>Sure, but "öster" absolutely means "Eastern"

yes, you are completely right, but I did not want to elaborate extensively in OP.
My bad !

(btw, it's not exactly "wrong" what I said because the words "east" and "out" have the same etymology. :P )

regarding this:

>"Land" is far more prevalent for the usage you suggest for "Reich".

Debatable. It's entirely dependent on context. FOR EXAMPLE:

The English word "country" can mean (at least) 2 (TWO) different things, depending on the context.

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Been a while since I've practiced my German, sorry! :)

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>>519205213
>It was hard to notice what was missing because it is so inconsequential

yyeeeesss !!
hehehe ;]]

to be fair, though, Poland and the Baltics, in the current geopolitical setting, are actually FAR MORE IMPORTANT than the ukraine is right now.

That's why, IDEALLY, Poland would be entirely MISSING from the Political landscape. :P

>>519204656
Wow. Really makes you happy to see vid related.

>>519205604
>>519205556
>>519204656
>>519202271
>>519201957
>>519201821
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>>519201727
>>519201788
That's terryfing. I hope Ukrainian drone strikes on Russia will soon end this horror. They appear to be very effective.

>>519200639
>IN FACT, they could only be THANKFUL for their position within the Russian Empire (and later, USSR), because Moscow had ALWAYS been VERY generous with its gifting of newer, and broader and broader territories to the ukrainian Province
Lenin was fearful of Ukraine because the white rebellion almost succeeded in metastasizing in the RSFSR. Stalin gave them Crimea and subsequent rulers allowed them to acquire way too much land.
They used and abused Ukraine, Holodomor.
Putin renegged on Crimea.
All of Ukraine was drawn up by imaginary borders and gifted by other countries in the greater USSR.
Really, Ukraine exists like Prussia. No one was ever Prussian. Prussia was always German, firstly Teutonic and sometimes West Slavic but majority German. Prussian was never an ethnicity. Just like Ukraine. Ukraine was always Russian, Polish, Hungarian, Tatar, Romanian, even Slovak.
Ukrainian has never been an ethnicity unto itself.
Austria is an apt comparison but really this applies to the concept of Germany as well.

>>519206506
cool pic.

>>519207029
>he saved my pic
lol

>>519206393
>Stalin gave them Crimea and subsequent rulers allowed them to acquire way too much land.

WRONG.
Crimea was given to the ukraine by KHRUSHCHEV, and, in fact, was THE LAST, grant of land to the ukrainian SSR.

Stalin had given them the Easternmost tip of FORMER Czechoslovakia.

>They used and abused Ukraine, Holodomor.

WRONG.
Holodomor was pure accident by sheer economic / agrarian mismanagement by Politburo.
mistakes CAN happen.

"FUN" FACT:
MORE people died in Kazakhstan and Russia from the Holodomor than in the ukraine. :P

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ALSO, the very idea of a "PURPOSEFUL" starvation of a SPECIFIC REGION doesn't make any sense globally :
Why would you starve the very PRODUCERS of the food that feeds your ENTIRE EMPIRE ?!

If you do that, then WHO'S gonna work the fields for the NEXT harvest ?!

Doesn't make sense.

>>519206506
so weird that there's like, EXACTLY 1 ONE *WOMAN* in this picture...

And she's in THE CENTER, almost right in front of the kid itself.

>>519206686
>cool pic.
pedo? :O

nafo subhumans already storming the thread, as per usual. Regarding the reunification statement, yes, after ww1 Ukraine was established and both the Ukrainian Bolsheviks and the German puppet Skoropadski wanted to rejoin Russia (respectively, the Red Russia and the White Russia)

>>519200565 (OP)
>Russians just NEED to rule over all slavs okay?!
and they have the gall to call Westerns imperialistic

>>519207887
actually, leftmost is Emma Watson. :P

>>519201776
>NATO (anglo-1ude1a war II)
What does this formula mean, and where and by whom is it used?

>>519208330
Well spotted, anon :)

the intensity of the hohol with the catalonian memeflag MUST mean I'm totally right. :P

boy oh boy... How the тгolls activate when actual TRVTH and reason spew from a new OP :P

>>519209701
i think he is a poorlack

>>519209837
No, I can't spot her here - please reveal where she is.

thanks for your free BAMP-ing up of my thread, catalon poorlack hohol !! :)

>>519209862
>i think he is a poorlack

why would you think *THAT* ? :O

Didn't read, lol.
TZD

>>519210410
Is she the passenger in the red jacket?

But you forgot to point her out in the first pic, so do it now.

>>519211243
Absolutely - no non-Islamic country in the world should ever let a Muslim in.

>>519200999
You yuropean faggots have never united over anything except sucking brown cock. None of us wouod be in this situation if you all didn't sperg out every other decade and kill half your population. Shut the fuck up.

>>519201908
>>519202147
You literally speak the same language

>>519210668
i dont know if he has posted anything revealing his nationality itt but I remember once typing something out in polish to a catalan anti-russian spammer and he responded in polish

>>519211848
Er du en god pige?

>>519200639
>Укpaйнa" (Ukraina) in Russian
Borderland/Frontier (as in American Frontier, aka Wild West:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_frontier)

>>519200565 (OP)
This map is the reason why every slav hates russia and most westerner like nato lol

>50ish posts itt
>counter at 90
lmao

>>519200565 (OP)
Österreich does not mean outer reich you faggot. Didn't even bother reading the rest after this, kill yourself.

>>519200565 (OP)
>doesn't understand that everything is a fake and gay balance of powers game by america

>>519212456
Muhamed bin Putin there - but where was Emma Watson in your pics?

>>519213879
from bright figures like Mikhail Tal, to being the absolute LAPDOG of America...

Just... xD

>>519213836
>doesn't understand etymology and metaphors; relies only on LITERAL meanings

kys, Szabor.

>>519212210
hm, interesting.

Still doesn't prove anything, though. Could have just used Google Translate.
OR, it could have been a TOTALLY DIFFERENT guy. :P

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>>519200565 (OP)
Nobody wants to be as poor as a Russian.

this thread bothers the memeflag so much that he sits here solving captchas for 3 hours.
lmao.
its called saging and not bumping you retard. How much do you get paid? Do you think this is saving ukraine?
I can walk away come back do whatever and you will still be here. Clearly its paid work, which is a shame because you can and will be replaced by AI as soon as someone brighter than you cuts your job short.

>>519200565 (OP)
Meds

>>519215194
These Russian men look MUCH better than the islamist Putin, but the women seem to suck up to African Muslims so they're obviously radical leftists/Anti-fa.

>>519215963
Yes, if the 'refugees'/immigrants are Muslims, this will always be the case.

>>519215963
Dont you have anything better to do?
Faggot

>>519200565 (OP)
Fine but no east Germany, and Czech and Hungary are in the Central Powers with Austria, Sweden and Poland since they're not really Slavic

>>519216388
Yup, Muslims are primitive and childish guests - attention-seeking whining whores.

>>519216983
He must be lying there - as an islamist Putin will not protect Israelis.

>>519216420
>Czech and Poland not Slavic
wut

btw you didn't recognize that my vision COMPLETELY EXCLUDES Poland from very EXISTENCE. :P

>CAPTCHA: NJNYA
Engineer lol

funny thing, I was actually JUST talking to one... : P

>>519215549
an even better question would be why the MODS are asleep ?

also, is it me, or /chug/ threads have been getting rarer-and-rarer recently, in favor of /UHG/ ones ??

hm...

(((someone))) 's got /pol/'s janny team by the balls... :O

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>>519213572
yes, EXACTLY.

you'd THINK that the current ukrainian "(((elite)))" would rename their country to something more presentable, since they suddenly got SO anti-Russia ??

Well, apparently they are NOT AT ALL "ukrainians", otherwise they would have done so immediately. :P

>>519215615
fed

>CAPTCHA: 0KV0V

OK, Vova.

hey, this guy GAVE UP !! :D

>>519221088
amazing commitment, he came back after more than HALF AN HOUR !! :O

>>519220558
I like how you say that like it's a bad thing.

I am a white person. I believe in white people. I believe that I am a white person.

>>519223607
>I like how you say that like it's a bad thing.

no, I actually meant it like: "finally this bot went defunct"

NOW, though, it's starting to get REALLY weird.

the (((mods))) are allowing all this FOR A REASON...


Man, I suddenly have a bad feeling...

Not about MYSELF, personally, and NOT because of that bot in particular...

It's feels like...

...like the ALEINS have ALREADY taken over !! :O

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Incoming blood-and-flesh harvest farms in T-minus 3 days...

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MAXIMUM... :O

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>>519224618
at least put on a BASQUE flag if you wanna be so bleeding-heart pro-independence and self determination.

Catalonia's a JOKE, same as the ukraine.

Now, BASQUES... That's the REAL shet !! :O

GLORY TO UKRAINE !!

CЛABA УКPAИHИ !!

fuck puccia !!

Z-tards suck Pichkin's dick !!

>>519200565 (OP)
>north sea countries exist
dumb turkroach

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>>519227306
GOTCHA, bot !! :D

>CAPTCHA: GNPDR

GoodNight, PiDoR !! :D