Thread 519203397

How foreign tech workers get a tax break you'll never see

THE MATH:
You: $200k salary - $13,818 FICA tax = $186,182
Them: $200k salary - $0 FICA tax = $200,000

That's $13,818 EXTRA per year
$41,454 over 3 years of OPT/STEM OPT

THE REALITY:
This tax break happens during your critical wealth-building years (20s)
That $41k becomes their down payment advantage
They outbid you on starter homes in tech hubs
Your FICA taxes fund their housing head start

This is why housing feels impossible
This is why you're always playing catch-up

>>519203397 (OP)
THE GASLIGHTING PLAYBOOK:

When you show them the math:
>"YOU'RE A LOSER"
>"IT'S JUST TAX OPTIMIZATION"
>"WE HAVE IT SO HARD"

They can't argue the numbers, so they attack you.

https://www.teamblind.com/post/foreign-tech-workers-pay-less-taxes-and-price-us-citizens-out-of-housing-jn3j8h47

>>519203485
THEY ADMIT IT THEMSELVES:

Foreign worker on Blind: "Should I delay my H1B to avoid $10k in taxes?"

Response: "Just don't file it and save on taxes"

They see your Social Security taxes as optional.
You see them as mandatory.

https://www.teamblind.com/post/got-h1b-in-first-year-skip-applying-to-avoid-fica-p3w52rnv

>>519203397 (OP)
foreign workers pay FICA taxes too, especially H1B holders.

/thread

>>519203724
>Nice try moving the goalposts you filthy, lying, scamming jeet

The entire thread is about the F1/OPT "pre-H1B" pipeline - the 3-year work authorization BEFORE they get an H1B.

THE DISTINCTION YOU'RE HOPING WE MISS:

- F1/OPT workers: Pay $0 FICA taxes for years (IRS Rule)
- H1B workers: Pay FICA taxes (after exploiting the OPT advantage)

The scam is using the tax-free OPT period to build a $40k+ wealth head start, then transitioning to H1B. By the time they pay FICA, they already used your tax money to get ahead in the housing market.

Your "gotcha" actually proves our point - you're admitting the system has two tiers, and they get to start in the advantaged one.

/thread

>>519203724
Here's a foreign worker on Reddit, complaining about finally having to pay the same taxes as you:

>"I just won the H1B visa lottery. Now that I have to start paying Social Security and Medicare taxes like an American, should I ask my company for a RAISE to cover it?"

The responses are even more telling:

>"Don't mention FICA... Just ask for a raise based on your performance... you can bring this up on the side."
>"Correct, nothing wrong in asking... but expect BIG eyerolls from HR. Gotta pay US taxes now unfortunately."

FICA stands for the Federal Insurance Contributions Act. This U.S. federal law mandates that employers withhold taxes from employee paychecks to fund Social Security and Medicare programs.

LET THAT SINK IN:

1. They get a multi-year tax break you never see.
2. The moment they're forced to contribute like everyone else, their first thought is, "How do I make my American employer cover my new tax bill?"
3. They strategize on how to hide the real reason and pretend it's about "performance."

They see paying into the system that funds our retirees and healthcare as a personal financial loss to be recovered. Not a civic duty. Not the cost of living in a first-world country. A pay cut.

This is the entitled mindset you're competing against.

https://www.reddit.com/r/h1b/comments/1cmqwc0/salary_increase_because_fica_taxes/

>>519203827
OPT/F1 visa is a student visa. international student tuition fee is 4x what the domestic applicants pay. + every international student also has to arrange for his own housing and accommodation. the net out of pocket cost is way, way higher than just 40k. kek.

/thread

>>519203521
>>519203397 (OP)
Cry about it bitch

>>519204041
Where do all of you gypsies get all that money from I still don't understand

>>519204041
Your tuition is a voluntary payment for a service. FICA taxes are a mandatory contribution to the society you're working in.

The fact that you equate your student bills to a right to skip $40,000 in taxes is the epitome of the entitlement we're describing.

You come here, take high-paying jobs from Americans, and then use a secret tax advantage to outbid them on housing. You're not just competing, you're competing with a government-mandated financial head start.

This isn't about your tuition. It's about you exploiting a loophole for a unilateral advantage in our economy. The two are not the same, and pretending they are is just a weak justification for a rigged game.

>>519204217
student loans. we just don't graduate in heinrich himmler favourite literary works with a minor in BSing.

>>519204339
Stay in your country and Make Indian Great!

>>519204230
>FICA taxes are a mandatory contribution to the society you're working in.

the same statutory regime allows for the OPT exemption. and it's not exclusive to us. students from every country are afforded this exemption 'cause of the discriminatory, eccentric costs that are dished-out to us. not to mention that the purpose of OPT is to make sure that a 5-star paid university education is not bereft of some practical experience.

the extra costs that we pay actually subsidise YOUR university fees. they're that high.

there is no secret wealth advantage here. if anything, international students are way, way disadvantaged when it comes to their domestic bred (or should i say inbred) peers. keep crying.

>>519204339
That's good. You should come here too. It would be fun :^) just don't bring in the overly legalistic mindset. I played clash of clans with an Indian once and he immediately reported me to clan leader for telling him I want to climb higher in the clan's hierarchy or smth. I was 12

>>519204339
>saar we have student loans saar!
you and nearly everyone else you stupid, pathetic filth.
Seeing global hate against you filth rise is the greatest gift.
That's all you will ever be to anyone not like you, filth.

>>519204689
lol. that's a dick move but yeah, the kid was probably 8-12 himself. forgive him. my little cousin used to play the same thing.

>>519204670
>Your tuition is a bill for a service. FICA is the price of participating in our society.

We're talking about the OPT WORK PROGRAM after you graduate, where you're a full-time employee taking jobs and hoarding houses. Your student bills have ZERO to do with the $40,000+ tax advantage you get while working.

You paying more for college doesn't entitle you to skip the taxes that fund the country you're profiting from. This isn't a fucking exchange program - it's a wealth transfer from American citizens to foreign workers.

Your tuition subsidizes the university. Your tax break subsidizes your down payment. Stop pretending you're the victim when you're holding the cheat code.

White people are being oppressed by Indian invaders.

Reminder that they didn't accept white people in India who were there to help their shit hole country. You don't have to accept them neither.

>>519204707
>global hate.
don't care. and most of it is coordinated psy-ops, we know that. you want this hate to exist and explode. no takesies-backsies.

still, it bothers me that you peddle lies about us to people from time-to-time but this will hurt you more than it's going to hurt us. just wait and watch.

>>519204837
how is a statutory tax exemption for getting practical experience 'muh theft' but those 4x fee for the same fucking swindling is not?

the baseline that you're trying to create here that there's some kind of understated advantage is NOT REAL. every international student is massively disadvantaged in the US job market. cry me a river.

>>519205021
>Saars, do not redeem
Lol, LMAO even

>>519205197
>Tuition is what you pay TO BE HERE. The tax break is what you get for WORKING HERE.

You CHOOSE to pay 4x tuition. I'm FORCED to pay 7.65% FICA so you can keep that money and outbid me on houses.

Your "disadvantage" is a choice. My disadvantage is GOVERNMENT POLICY giving you a $40k head start.

Stay mad, cope harder. Your victim card is declined. This is our country, not your tax-advantaged playground.

>>519203397 (OP)
Bump. Thanks for the thread anon.

>>519205021
>psyop
This is the single biggest cope of the world greatest producer of pure filth.
you disgust people with your default behavior, you are incapable of fixing your own country yet demand access to ethnic European countries. I work in tech, my entire team is full of sub par h1b filth just like you, I have yet to meet a single one of you that qualifies as exceptional or any that have what can't be found in the usa.

>>519205355
how can i disadvantage you with money that i don't even have, you moron? all university fees are accrued before any of the FICA process even begins. and those university fees are NOT optional. if you're going to create a comparison then compare equal scenarios.

you're the one who's shilling for a victim card over here. it's like the american white guy repression olympics in this thread when, in reality, it's probably some international student's loan that's subsidizing your higher education.

>>519203397 (OP)
Foreign workers do pay local taxes but at a different rate while also paying taxes back to their home of record (country).

Many of them get sweetheart deals like housing and transportation while employed domestically.

>>519205612
>You don't have the money? Then how are you buying houses and outbidding Americans?

Your tuition scam funds the university. Your FICA scam funds YOUR down payment.

You pay for a degree. We pay for your wealth advantage. Then you have the audacity to cry "oppression" while exploiting a tax loophole we don't get.

Temporary workers shouldn't have financial advantages over citizens. If anything, they should be taxed a lot more until they become US citizens. Period. Cope and seethe, parasite.

>>519203521
Yes, H-1B visa holders generally pay Social Security and Medicare taxes, which are deducted from their wages just like for U.S. citizens. These payments are required for wages earned from work performed in the United States and are subject to the same rules as U.S. employees, though some exceptions may exist under totalization agreements between the U.S. and other countries.

>>519203397 (OP)
Foreigners should be higher taxes, not lower.

>>519205846
They should be taxed at least 50% and also tax the living daylights out of their remittances.

NO ONE gives a shit about "muh totalization agreements" in this day and age.

Tax the living hell out of them and make them pay for the privilege of living here.

>>519203827
Many nations tax based on residence, but a few, most notably the United States, tax based on citizenship, meaning your income is subject to taxation regardless of where it is earned.

>>519205508
i don't care what backwater IT firm you work at. i'm yet to meet 1 exceptional white guy myself and i've worked with several. careful PR is the net sum of what they're good at. that, and stealing other people's creds.

>demand access.
not for nothing. it's in exchange for favourable investment terms, free trade, cheap goods and things of that nature.

>can't be found in the usa.
find 'em there then. kek. like, you think closing this export of talent hurts us? the people that you don't want, other nations are clamoring over.

>>519205774
there is no excess money, jackass. we pay for our degrees and yours.

what down payment money would we even have left with those 4x tuition rates. would you rather trade places, switch places with us on this? kek.

>your tuition scam.
LMAO. the kettle calling the pot black, huh. ironic.

>>519206280
You pay your university. Then you get a 3-year tax holiday to save for a down payment while Americans fund Social Security. These are separate scams.

If you're so broke from tuition, why are your countrymen buying billions in US real estate? If other nations are "clamoring" for you, then fucking leave.

You're not guests. You're economic weapons. And we're done being target practice.

>>519206280
then why the fuck are you not in the booming tech industry in India Garbreet? oh yeah, because its a stinky brown shithole stuck in medieval times shitting in open fields. you're lucky you get to lick at the white man's feet in an actual nation. but like a greedy Indian you ruined your own scam.

>>519206457
They are so fucking entitled, it's unbelievable.

>>519206382
>These are separate scams.
it's not a scam when it's written into law ... and like i said before, it's applicable to people of ALL nationalities, not just us. like, how big of an asinine moron do you have to be to consider laws passed by congress and followed to a T, along their intended objects, as scam? you're so buck-broken, you can't even think straight.

yeah. we're broke from paying these chicanerous tuition rates. they're literally the definition of discrimination. and not just us, americans are broke too paying 1/4th of 'em.

>countrymen buying billions in US real estate.
you take our top-talent and then play pretend amazed when they become more successful than the average joe.

>guests.
this is the part that makes me chuckle the hardest. i don't know who you think you are.

>>519206457
i do well for myself.

>>519206620
>They are so fucking entitled, it's unbelievable.
>you're lucky you get to lick at the white man's feet in an actual nation.
y-pipos delusions and hypocrisy never ceases to amaze me. you're far, far worse than jews.

>>519207010
you are a pajeet lol, fuck you shitjeet

>>519207010
Slavery was once the law. That didn't make it right.

Your "top talent" needs a $40,000 government handout to compete with American graduates. That's not talent - that's affirmative action for foreigners.

You cry about tuition while using a tax loophole to buy our property. You're not guests - you're occupiers with a victim complex.

Stay mad that we're closing your backdoor. Your tears fuel our resolve.

>>519206280
>I'm entitled filth
Yes, we know.
No country wants you, the business leaders obsessed with profits do because you offer that at the expense of citizens working, ignoring the catastrophic tech debt generated by jeetcode. These leaders then lobby the gov to act against the interest of its own people. I'm amazed at the arrogance of filth like you. Thinking you would ever be wanted by the people is the most disgusting cope. You are tools used against a countries people because you are cheaper. That's it, you are not good at what you do and never were. Simple as.

>>519207289
slavery is good and jeets should be enslaved

>>519207237
nice chatgpt, FAG.

after the jews, it's going to be your turn. needful needs to be done. until then, don't redeem.

>>519207342
prove it wrong ramalesh

>>519207341
>enslaved
To do what? Throw trash around outside?

>>519207550
nigger tier grunt work, the arabs use them as slaves and work them like dogs, its great

>>519203397 (OP)
We need to definitely start importing more inbred Muslims. We need more zest in the US that the poos just can't provide.

>>519207289
if you're this pressed about the situation then why don't you petition to turn the tide? like, switch positions. we'll let you hicks pay our 4x fees, won't even care for the extra accommodation costs, and in-return we'll pick-up your FICA baggage. how about that, huh? you fucking sleazebag.

this guy, whose picture you've posted graduated from IIT Bombay. 10 generations of your family can sit and study together for 10 years and still not get admitted there. you have no idea what he's about. you just go on his nerdy and dark looks.

>>519207317
this is a massive cope. i'd rather use an application built by an indian rather than a white guy at this point. like, all of our domestic digital infra works fine. it works better, even.

and as long as the right to employee and setup businesses wherever you want will remain a reality, you're never getting anywhere. you're simply against people's basic freedoms. nothing more.

>>519207843
Your "top talent" needs a government handout to compete. Real talent competes on a level playing field.

You cry about freedom while demanding special privileges. The only "freedom" you want is the freedom to exploit.

Keep seething. Your tax loophole is closing. Cope.

>>519207966
wigger ... timmy, you're wrong again. this guy didn't even apply for an F1/OPT visa. he was picked and parceled right off his freakin' university. probably on an O1, if anything. that's how elite he actually is.

will the y-pipos ever stop crying?

>>519208178
We're talking about the F1/OPT tax scam you filthy jeet, not your one-in-a-million O1 exception.

You pivot to rare exceptions because you can't defend the systematic exploitation. For every "elite" O1, there are 10,000 OPT workers using the $40k tax advantage.

Stay mad.

>>519207843
>i'd rather use an application built by an indian rather than a white guy at this point.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
thanks for that.
>against peoples freedom
You aren't citizens you absolute entitled faggot. You do not deserve the same freedoms or rights.
This is the average jeet, so entitled to access to others countries thinking he is better, that he knows more while never doing anything to fix his own sithole land of filth. This is why hate towards you is organic, you are not self aware enough to understand this.

>>519208178
I am sure that guy is retarded just like 99% of every Indian I have ever met in the tech industry in 17 years.

>>519208379
>>519208386
>>519208434
unreal seethe. this psy-op will only take you so far. those who know, know.

>>519207843
>IIT Bombay.
https://www.hindustantimes.com/cities/mumbai-news/iitb-alumnus-caught-filming-outside-hostel-washroom-101760641570813.html
https://www.deccanchronicle.com/nation/fake-phd-student-busted-after-2-weeks-inside-iit-bombay-1888848
https://www.indiatoday.in/trending-news/story/iit-bombay-student-college-id-pic-used-to-scam-jee-aspirants-online-2741440-2025-06-16
Lol, LMAO even

>>519208632
yeah, every project I have ever seen managed by Indians ended up being a nightmare cost overrun and eventual failure, this will be no different.

>>519205612
The fact that you're arguing to keep this going is a testament of how much of an advantage it is for you. If it wasn't, then you wouldn't care.

I'm guessing this will negatively impact remittances, too. That's what your really concerned about, right?

>>519208661
1 alleged perv and 2 articles on people pretending to study/graduate from there. do you even read your own seething research? i imagine that you cry, tears rolling down your cheeks and everything kek, while you frivolously google (or, sorry, chatgpt) to malign people whose intellectually capacity, you're never going to come even remotely close to.

>>519208632
>cope and seethe harder, jeet.

your entire economy runs on outsourcing and western investment. you're celebrating a british company opening an office like it's a national achievement.

meanwhile you flood our country because your own can't provide what we have. you need our jobs, our companies, our housing, and our tax loopholes to survive.

enjoy your 2nm chips. we'll enjoy ending your F1/OPT scam. keep malding from bangalore while we take back our country.

>>519208722
lol. timmy shares fake article, fake news.

buddy, why do you even pretend. admit it. you've never worked with an indian in your life. you don't know shit about indian managed projects. you're never even come close to working in the same hierarchy. you're just trash.

>>519208885
it's the weekend and i like making timmies seethe when they lie.

>>519208885
Believe me, the howling from jeets when calling them out on this is insane. Keep it up.

>>519204041
Shoddy Jeet, an American citizen education quality will always be better than whatever slumdog you crawled out of. You pay extra to compensate for that education you never had growing up.

>>519209218
seethe more poopjeet
https://www.macrumors.com/2023/02/14/only-half-of-indian-iphone-casings-meet-standards/

>>519208632
>newsflash, businesses chase cheap labor, policy and subsidy leverage at the expense of long term sustainability
Imagine my shock that you are too stupid to understand this. Classic entitled jeet doesn't know how much his own gov is handing over to have them there. We all know they will regret this in time like everyone regrets India today.
Deal with it jeet, the hate is organic and nothing will stop it from growing daily.

>>519204437
They cant, they already destroyed it

>>519204946
Thank god! Go to the pooda now, suckiackit.

>>519209218
>head bobbling intensifies
>Rolls in cow shit
>Saars, Indians master race
>Dies of dysentery
Lol, LMAO even

>>519209218
Stop with this main character syndrome little shithead, every shitjeet is built with this mentality and the ones who escape the butthole (India) think so highly of themselves as if they're made out of gold but in reality you're just a plain old pajeet.

>>519203397 (OP)
tough luck you fucking retard. your parents are supposed to take care of you that you dont have to compete with third worlders. we know most parents are useless so whatever.

>>519209672
I see you in the lower right corner

>>519209209
>you're celebrating a british company opening an office like it's a national achievement.
you wigger, a grand total of 5 countries do it. the british are designing it here, something that they can't or won't do in the UK itself. and where else it's getting done, a lot of staff is indian. these hallucinations are mad. i'm out.

>>519209909
you need british companies to design what your own country can't build. you need our F1/OPT pipeline because your "top talent" can't compete without our $40k tax handout.

every post just proves the point: your entire existence depends on western systems you pretend to surpass.

stay mad and keep exporting your "talent" to lick our boots. the door's always open for more cope.

>>519209909
There isn't a single manufactured product made in India which deserves a fucking praise, Jeets can't build anything.
You lots are only surviving on spice trade.

>>519209980
au contraire, british companies are cooperating with us to build something they haven't made themselves yet. india's first, indigenous chips are coming out later this year.

and it's not a hand-out, lmao. anyone can read this thread. you're a pathetic loser and a liar. keep seething.

>>519210180
LMAO "indigenous chips" designed by british companies using western IP. classic jeet delusion.

your entire "indigenous" project is just assembling western designs while your "talent" floods our job market begging for tax exemptions.

keep crying about your imaginary tech while your best still line up for our H1B lottery. stay mad and keep seething, we both know where the real innovation lives.

>>519210180
This is the average jeet, so stupid that he is unaware of how much power and money govs hand over when begging companies in 1st world nations. Thinking it's all being done because he believes his filthy people have more to offer. Impressive, really,that one could be so retarded.
lookup the tax breaks, subsidies and benefits you incompetent shitskin. They will still suffer the fate of India producing shit quality because Indians always cut corners, ALWAYS. this is a universal constant like their love of being crushed by large objects

>>519211515
They are openly lying in surveys and census reports, so who really knows much of them have infested the western world.

>>519209909
Indians destroyed the intel cpu architecture and will do the same for ARM

>>519211965
the existence of that subreddit just proves how masculine and pathetic they are

the poopjeet ran out of BS talking points and gave up lol

>>519214156
There is a correlation between the increasing number of jeets in US tech and the relative decline of US tech while China is rapidly catching up and even surpassing us.

Think about it, in the last 15 YEARS is there any major innovation from the US tech industry? Before that, US tech was rapidly changing every year without missing a beat.

>>519218146
Hardware is getting ridiculously powerful - made in China
Software is getting ridiculously laggy and resource hungry - written by j33tz
End result: tech is becoming increasingly glitchy and prone to cyber-attacks/hacking, IT companies don't even sell you a piece of software they only sell subscriptions now.

>>519209218
Globally hated disgusting shit rat