Thread 519203854

>>519203854 (OP)
This thread is extremely low quality

kek wtf i love christcucks now

>>519204004
Shut your ass up, nigger. You want another link? Here, bitch.
https://english.katholisch.de/artikel/65098-pope-leo-xiv-condemns-usury-as-a-very-grave-sin

Catholic bros, you like the guy better than Francis or what?

>>519203854 (OP)
He's right, usury is anti-human. There is a reason jews do not practice usury against each other.

>>519204091
Yes

>>519203854 (OP)
no usury?
What will you replace it with?
I don't wanna go back to slavery for unpaid debts.
Or, are you guys just against the unfair rates of usury?

I agree. It should be banned.

>>519204614
Repossession. Do you not understand what usury is? Has your brain been infected with jewish lies?

>>519203854 (OP)
>man that thinks hes God on earth says...

>>519203854 (OP)
he's not wrong

>>519204801
>Do you not understand what usury is?
Lending money at interest
How would repossession work?
Hypothetical:
You want a business loan but you ain't got the money.
You take out a loan but after several slow months, you can't pay.
Does the person who lent you the money now own the business?

>>519205305
>You want a business loan but you ain't got the money.
you work your ass and save the money to start the business because nobody has the ability to lend money anymore
there, fixed

>>519205305
>Do you not understand what usury is?
>Lending money at interest
Thats a gross simplification. It encompasses many forms of rent seeking beyond interest, and interest itself is not the problem. Its exorbitant rates and entrapment schemes.
Usury has very little utility in the economy, it enriches a small minority and it generally unproductive.

>>519204091
He's a faggot for crying about ICE but calling out Usury is pretty based. Maybe Thomas Massie tiered. I like that Massie calls out AIPAC and Israel but he doesn't call out all jews and wants open borders. So yeah I'd say they're about the same.

It's time to learn how to be an actual Christian, you filthy protestants, embrace Catholicism , reject your heresy

>>519205555
>gross oversimplification
consider the audience
>Its exorbitant rates and entrapment schemes.
it is as I thought
No one is against lending money at interest.
It's the high rates.

>>519204004
Kike

>>519205766
I think lending in general should be avoided. It leads to economic turmoil and asset bubbles

>>519204091
He’s better but the bar was EXTREMELY low with Francis. If Leo protects the TLM and btfos whatever the hell is happening in Germany with their heretical clergy I will allow the other goofiness.

Top tier would be an apology for how the Church acted during covid and acknowledging lockdowns and vax but that will probably not happen in my lifetime.

>>519203854 (OP)
Damn.
A pope remembers the only time Jesus got pissed was at the money changers practising usury.

>>519203854 (OP)
Protties will mald

>>519203854 (OP)
cursed be all the jews
>Holly MARY who art in Heaven
HEIL MARY MOTHER OF GOD
HEIL HITLER PROPHET OF GOD
HEIL OUR PEOPLE
HEIL VICTORY

>>519206467
Pope Benedict was excellent. He was pretty top notch which is why they threw him out for Francis.

>>519204004
Kys jew the topic of usury is the most important political issue in history

>>519203854 (OP)
The pope is jewish tho

>>519206516
Based

>>519203854 (OP)
Pope good now!

>>519203854 (OP)
>the prophets denounced usury

mfw even the pope hasn't read the bible. what does thatt say when even the highest christian officials don't read even their own books

>>519204004
the palestinian army defeated the zionist entitys terrorists

>>519203854 (OP)
is he advocating for debt forgiveness every 7 years with zero exceptions?

>>519205305
>Lending money at interest
No. A mutuum at interest. A contract for the loan of goods which will be used or consumed by the borrower, to be repaid with goods of an equivalent quantity and quality. That may be money, it may be grain, it does not matter. What matters is that the lent good is not intended to be returned but consumed.
>Does the person who lent you the money now own the business?
They own whatever they lent you. If you want a loan to buy a car, the licit option is the lender purchases the car, and loans it to you. You pay them for this service. If you cease payment, they reclaim their car. They have no further recourse, you can not become indebted with no ability to repay. That is the core reason usury was illicit, the debt trap.

>>519205555
>Its exorbitant rates
No. The rate of interest is completely irrelevant. The definition of usury was very clear and codified in many laws in many jurisdictions for centuries, and never mentioned interest rates. Only the entrapment is relevant.

>>519203854 (OP)
He is virtue signaling.
He could give 2 shits about "usury".
He is only applying to the "poor" meaning retards who can't see past his moral bs.

And what about all the other shit that is destroying society? He pushes for fags, niggers, female clergy. Yeah nothing but virtue signaling.

>>519207469
if you lend money at 0% in an inflationary environment that is effectively a negative interest rate. There used to be church-sanctioned banks and they lent at what was considered a fair and non-usurious interest rate around 6%. And they still ended up going bust.
You are correct in regards to the Old Testament, but the church has the authority to interpret scripture.

>>519203854 (OP)
based pope I will convert to christianity now and die for nothing in globohomo wars

alexa find churches near me

>>519203854 (OP)
Reminder to contact your Congressman to kill HR 4501. I don't think anything has happened with it since it was introduced three months ago but they need to be told this is not acceptable to even be suggested

>>519205305
The person who paid the money owns the business. If you don't pay them back fully, they own part of the business.

>>519203854 (OP)
>To protect the citizenship of, and provide tax-exempt status to, any American elected as the Supreme Pontiff of the Roman Catholic Church.
>IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES July 17, 2025 Mr. Hurd of Colorado (for himself, Mr. Kelly of Pennsylvania, Mrs. Bice, Mr. Grothman, Mr. Lawler, Mr. Jack, and Mr. Fleischmann) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Ways and Means, and in addition to the Committee on the Judiciary, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned
>A BILL To protect the citizenship of, and provide tax-exempt status to, any American elected as the Supreme Pontiff of the Roman Catholic Church.
>Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
>SECTION 1. Short title.
>This Act may be cited as the “Holy Sovereignty Protection Act”.
>SEC. 2. Protection of United States citizenship.
>(a) In general.—The United States citizenship of any individual elected as the Supreme Pontiff of the Roman Catholic Church may not be revoked.
>(b) Effective date.—This section shall take effect upon the date of enactment of this Act.
>SEC. 3. Tax-exempt status.
>(a) In general.—In the case of any citizen of the United States, such individual shall be exempt from taxation under subtitle A of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 with respect to any taxable year any portion of which he is serving as the Supreme Pontiff of the Roman Catholic Church.
>(b) Effective date.—This section shall apply to taxable years ending after May 8, 2025.
This America, bullshit like this has no place here. Every one of the Congressmen sponsoring this bill should be strung up
A monarch is not a who needs a tax exemption. If YOU went expat they'd expect you to pay your taxes but they'll introduce a bill to give a MONARCH a tax exemption

>>519203854 (OP)
Leo and the Church aren't perfect, but this is nice to see. I'm feeling like going to Mass again. One more based message and I'll go.

>>519206910
The Pope knows more about the Bible than you do.
>Let us buy the poor with silver and the needy for a pair of sandals, selling even the chaff with the wheat!”
>He who does not put out his money at usury, Nor does he take a bribe against the innocent. He who does these things shall never be moved.
>Woe is me, my mother, That you have borne me, A man of strife and a man of contention to the whole earth! I have neither lent for interest, Nor have men lent to me for interest. Every one of them curses me.
>If he has not exacted usury Nor taken any increase, But has withdrawn his hand from iniquity And executed true judgment between man and man; If he has walked in My statutes And kept My judgments faithfully -- He is just; He shall surely live!" Says the Lord GOD.

>usury
>refuses to denounce fetuseating
https://www.youtube.com/live/ZjmGydpfPOw
>mfw

>>519208626
>>519206910
In fact, not only does the Bible speak out against usurious creditors, but perhaps one of the most famous parts of the Bible, Isaiah's Gospel, is about this.
>And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up. And as was his custom, he went to the synagogue on the Sabbath day, and he stood up to read. And the scroll of the prophet Isaiah was given to him. He unrolled the scroll and found the place where it was written, “The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he has anointed me to proclaim good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim liberty to the captives and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty those who are oppressed, to proclaim the year of the Lord's favor.
In ancient times those who were heavily indebted were often enslaved. Israelites could only be enslaved for six years and had to be released during each Jubilee Year, a year in which all debts were released. Jesus was effectively saying that another Jubilee Year had come.

>>519207908
You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
https://zippycatholic.wordpress.com/2014/11/10/usury-faq-or-money-on-the-pill/

>>519203854 (OP)
Grow up humanity

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLosV7-J3OWsDsZO-SnzWhE3XOL1wLTIvD&si=KdQ3F2cox56_JyGF

>>519208925
all you have proven is christians are forbidden from practicing usury.... no shit? but your jew prophets did and moreover christians always allowed jews to lend at interest in medieval europe. thanks for playin

>>519209265
you and zippycatholic.wordpress.com are free to interpret scripture that way, but I have no moral obligation to.

>>519209928
The Jew after one shovel worth of dirt would start to wander off in his mind, thinking of how that one shovel load would compound interest into one day becoming a entire ditch....not much shoveling ever got done, now we are where we are.

>>519210299
Neither of us is interpreting anything. I gave you that link precisely because it gives full citations directly to the catholic magisterium. Learn to read.

>“The nature of the sin called usury has its proper place and origin in a loan contract [mutuum]. This financial contract between consenting parties demands, by its very nature, that one return to another only as much as he has received. The sin rests on the fact that sometimes the creditor desires more than he has given. Therefore he contends some gain is owed him beyond that which he loaned, but any gain which exceeds the amount he gave is illicit and usurious.”

>>519210570
If inflation is 10% and you lend at 0%, when you get paid back a year later you are only receiving 90% of what you lent.
If you lend at 10%, you get paid back 110% nominally, but in real terms you receive exactly what you lent. Theres no gain.
You are free to pretend this isnt the case but its a complete denial of reality.

>>519210844
This article goes into that
https://commonplace.online/article/the-rise-of-usury-in-early-new-england/

>>519210844
>If inflation is 10% and you lend at 0%, when you get paid back a year later you are only receiving 90% of what you lent.
So don't do that. Where is the confusion?

>>519212636
>Where is the confusion
In the word 'gain', there is none.