Thread 519229691

Why is giving two billionaires 500 yachts more important than creating a nice safe world where everyone's basic needs are met? Capitalists are literally retarded.

>>519229691 (OP)
Because we're not entitled to other people's stuff. Fuck off envyfag.

>>519229691 (OP)
the same reason every time: because you lazy retarded faggots and drug addicts always fuck it up.

babby's first seethe over rich people
the wealth will not be redistributed under any regime, and to imply society would be safer under a lefty regime is retarded

>>519229691 (OP)
The leftist utopia has never existed. Despite many, many attempts, they always fuck things up even worse than they were before. Meanwhile, unequal distributions of wealth have always existed, and aren't even unique to our species.

>wahh why do some people have more money than i do

hey i thought money was just a social construct bro. just stop believing in it bro haha

>>519230077
last time I checked, the billionaires were the lazy retarded faggots and drug addicts who always fuck it up
threatening the American elites with Epstein disclosure in a drug induced loss of control is a major fuck up, even billions can not easily make that go away
that's probably the only contribution of social media, providing irrefutable proof that elites are stupid and evil

>>519229691 (OP)
>Lets try communism again
At least capitalism puts bread on the table

>>519230275
problem is that with a set of billionaires, you have no more free will for the larger decisions of your life, it all reduces to a few directions, because the rest collides with their interests

>>519230163
Americans can only think in two directions, left and right. Well done CIA.

>>519230637
Not running defence for billionaires but there are loads of drug addicted smoothbrains in the lower and middle class and I wouldn't want any of them in charge

>>519230163
>>519230077
>>519230275
>>519230408

>>519229691 (OP)
It's funny that the "NO KANGZ" astroturfed protests are a worldwide embarrassing joke, so a lot of the shills went home and are on here spamming this
>MUH CAPITALISM IS EVIL
trash instead, lol.

My needs are two yachts

>>519230784
>the leftist calls others disagreeing with him "bootlickers."
you don't even know what that term means or how to use it, you retarded underaged statist NPC piece of pinko shit

>>519229776
Except for our Greatest Ally right goy?

>>519230711
It was ever thus, and thus it shall always be.

>>519229776
> other people's stuff
Let's make an example how other people get their stuff:
If I want to compete right now, I have to use AI. I can buy it from a handful of billionaires who own the data centers.
I would have had to be a multimillionaire, like 50+, four years ago to be even eligible to buy up meaningful computing power, because it's all sold out for the whole decade. I have no other choice but to give them my money, to not become homeless. That is how wealth is created.

>>519229691 (OP)
What a total little kid understanding of the world.

>>519230768
I don't want anyone in charge but distributed networks (not in the digital sense) of self governance. It's not 1700 anymore, this has largely been figured out.

Define basic needs. I give you a 6’x6’ shack with a hole in the middle and a daily bottle of water and turkey sandwich are your basic needs of food and shelter met?

>>519229691 (OP)
It's not about creating a world where everyone gets shit. But it is about creating a world where you could actually work for your own shit instead of having the rich suppress everyone through constant inflation and terrorize the masses by leveraging your existence and biological needs against you to keep you enslaved, which modern capitalism is. Fuck this kike hell shit. Might as well have electruction pads on everyone for 24/7 underpaid productivity where the elites take the profit, a literal hell world full of ghouls and anguish. The arch demons still live in hell by the way.

Personally I’d rather live in a society where the sky is the limit when it comes to my personal wealth compared to a society where some bare minimum is guaranteed. But I am a degenerate gambler albeit.

>>519230784
jokes on you i lick my own boots

>>519229691 (OP)
>everyone's basic needs
i will not live in a pod
i will not eat the bugs

>>519229691 (OP)
Fuck off, you moronic communist shill.

>>519230843
You want them, not need them.

>>519229691 (OP)
Because every single time an alternative to capitalism was tried it resulted in the exact same thing, except the two people also killed millions of their own citizens, and the general populace was even poorer and more miserable.

>>519230938
Leftists love Jews Anon...

>>519230741
the OP girl is implying that a socialist/lefty regime would be more safe, and im arguing it wouldn't be under the current American political system. There are 999 options that we dont have and I'm criticizing this chick's idea of one system

>>519229691 (OP)
Generosity is seen as exploitative when it comes from someone visibly wealthy.

>>519229691 (OP)
>creating a nice safe world where everyone's basic needs are met?
We can't afford this.

Many of you have the wrong concept of communism.

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>>519228801

>>519230784
listen man I wish we could get a slice of that trillionaire pie too, but it's not gonna happen. This fucking peak naivete where people think billionaires can't avoid taxes through 9999 loopholes, that there is a shred of hope the wealth will be redistributed, that voting either way will benefit the working class, is delusional at best
unfortunately zero (0) politicians are willing and able to redistribute billionaire wealth, and also create a safer society. It's nothing more than fantasies

>>519229691 (OP)
>a nice safe world where everyone's basic needs are met
do these retards even watch animal planet?
the world is fucking cruel
so much so that our entire civilisation is built around filtering it's cruelty from our perception while outsourcing our suffering to other species
all these faggots complaining we are cruel with nature forget how cruel has nature always been with us

>>519230966
Brain rotted zoomer.
This shit predates chatbots (AI doesn't fucking exist)

You can't compete because you have no fucking skills(engineer) and you're not a psychopath (businesses man)
>>519229776
Fpbp. Fuck these commsrmayie scum
I won't do shit because then I'd have to pay taxes to fund other people that didn't do shit. Why should I slave and risk everything even I can be a neet too?!

>>519229691 (OP)
I would love to live in a safe world where everyone's basic needs are met but the people who claim to want to do so keep trying to include violent animals and rapists as 'people'.

>>519229691 (OP)
Not saying capitalism is perfect, does 100% have problems but it is way better at meeting people's needs/wants and innovation. Maybe when the population collapses or AI potentially* takes a lot of jobs, you'll get your more equitable world.
(REDDIT SPACING)
We will at some point move on from liberal capitalism. Maybe managed capitalism, eco-socalism, automation, techno-fedualism, etc. I like the idealism but it's the best thing we got right now in a competitive world.

>>519229691 (OP)
I disagree with the premise that everyone's basic needs should be met.
Though vampiric generational wealth is also an issue.

>>519231068
>which modern capitalism is

GROW UP

>>519229691 (OP)
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I FUCKING HATE COMMIES THEY ARE A FUCKING WASTE OF OXYGEN

>>519231976
With the development of technologies and tools future is communism. It is a guaranteed. Because no one entity will be able to have monopoly on information, technology and robotics.

>>519229691 (OP)
>a nice safe world

Libtards vote against every single mechanism that might facilitate this outcome. Libtards are like "Just take public transport! Also, just empty the prisons because punishment is unjust!". And then they wonder why they're getting raped on the subway.

>>519230741
America is a crude and shallow imitation of European politics.

>>519231607
>do these retards even watch animal planet?
>the world is fucking cruel
You equate chainsawing arms and legs off of other people and stick other people in burning tyres with European high civilizations where such things were/are still not needed. Idiotic cruelty is not needed to survive.

>>519232427
Technology doesn’t determine equality, institutions and power structures do. It’s a political struggle, not a natural law. Capitalism is still the most adaptive economic framework rn. Probably some hybrid system by how we handle automation, environment, and governance.

>>519229691 (OP)
If all my needs are met, why would i work? If nobody works, because they dont have to to have their needs met, how do we produce the resources to meet their needs? This is how communism goes every single time.

>>519229691 (OP)
Niggers, jeets, spics, chinks and ragheads prevent the utopian dream, jews create the dystopian nightmare

>>519233439
first of all sorry for my grammar, its 5AM.
Capitalism has failed to adjust and deliver unlike before. It is happening all over the world as you can see. It sure is a political struggle. We call it a class struggle. And this time the working class are winning. But first a hybrid system as you said will be implemented. Multipolar world is a symptom of it happening. Two ideologies are fighting for dominance and at the end of the day they both will have to learn to co-exist. And this will impact everyone. It is the beginning.

>>519233503
>If all my needs are met, why would i work?
This is capitalist brainwashing at work. "We have to work to live!"
This is exactly why they do it, to turn you into an obedient slave. This is why they keep people in poverty, so that they won't have any other option than to work for whoever gives them jobs, to survive! So they can be exploited all their life for lowest pay as possible.
And now more and more people are getting replaced by robots and AI and "foreigners", people don't even have that luxury to work for that minimum pay. And they have noticed this scam.
But to answer your initial question, people work to create and help one another. If their well being is guaranteed they won't feel the need to exploit and steal from others. Perhaps that is what OP's post is trying to say.

Let me know when you figure out how to ensure that everyone's basic needs are met, without totally centralizing power into one government which then of course becomes a tyranny, and without totally destroying everyone's motivation to work, and to innovate and improve, and to do all the things that give rise to a prosperous society in the first place.

Communists/socialists always talk a great deal about how to divide and distribute the goods of the world. But they always start with the assumption that the goods are just sort of there in the first place. They do not understand that the only reason there are any goods, is that men struggled and sweated and fought and bled to invent and produce those goods. Men did this in order to rise above other men, in order to get money and thereby to get a piece of ass. Remove that motivation and men will do nothing unless forced to. This is why commie societies can only exist if they are imposed by brute force.

Karl Marx was the original neet, who understood absolutely nothing about how the world really work. And his philosophical descendants have been either neets or cynical tyrants who believe only in power for themselves and domination over others.

>>519234148
>"foreigners"
Stopped reading here

>>519233503
>This is how communism goes every single time.
Every single time where? Communism in Soviet Union and China has had zero issues turning hundreds of millions into worker drones. The problem is with the actual effectiveness of the system, even though stock market capitalism is also not looking great for the future with so much of workforce going dormant. Smelly hippy communism which you are thinking of as "every time" is an American fantasy and probably a reality for the champagne socialists that America has. I think communism is a stupid system by the way, that's why I'm happy to equate it with crapitalism where kikes are currently robbing the entire world blind.

>>519229691 (OP)
Being born into wealth more than 5 million $/Yr should be illegal. It should be mandated by law that such parents must disown their children and forbid them from inheritance in any way possible. This solves your problem with capitalism. Include lustration and autolustration for rich fucks that dodge taxes and voila, perfect system

>>519229776
> Because we're not entitled to other people's stuff
Why not?

>>519229776
>Because we're not entitled to other people's stuff.
Except for their land, labour and resources?

>>519229691 (OP)
Yeah, we all got together and decided to create a miserable world.
Now that we know this we can just make sarcastic wordswordswords memes to fix it. We did it, reddit!

>>519229691 (OP)
>a nice safe world where everyone's basic needs are met

All needs are met in the Gulag, now get back to work.

To any wannabe communist here, I highly recommend to look up what "secessio plebis" is. You don't like your wages, housing prices, anything the ruling class imposes on you. Just do a secessio plebis, they can't function without you. But none of you will ever do it, because you are slaves, all of you

>>519234937
Unironically, today's workings class doesn't have the required skillset or independence to pull it off. The people can't empty into the countryside and survive. They can't live off the land.

>>519231976
>Not saying capitalism is perfect, does 100% have problems but it is way better at meeting people's needs/wants and innovation.
The issue is currently the innovation and growth are being driven by depriving people in increasingly creative ways. Want clean air, clean water, nutritious food, no Indians, shelter, no crime, a family, grandparents for your children - better pay the fuck up and it better be millions! And yet all these things could be had somewhere bumfuck in a forest completely for free (like the Amish do). Funny is the elites also find a way to circumvent these anxieties to spearhead "progress". The next logical step for capitalism is to physically keep people in pain unless they produce enough profit. And the "production" will be men clawing at each others necks to sell their countries to invaders and women whoring their holes on camera. Awesome "system" you have there.

>>519229776
But you’re entitled to cheap immigrant labor that displaces the rest of us? Fuck off capitalist dog scum

>>519229691 (OP)
Billionaires shouldn't exist. The system is an aberration

>>519230768
The politicians make money off pushing drugs into the country though

because for some reason most people are willing to give up safety nets for the atomically small chance of being one of those 2 billionaires

>>519235185
Capitalism = betraying your countrymen for a profit

>>519229691 (OP)
Who has 500 yachts?
Commies will always complain about millionaires and billionaires but cannot name one. Yet when the jewish millionaires and billionaires are name and doing exactly what the commies say capitalist do the commies instantly start kvetching about antisemitism.
Seems to be a pattern.

>>519235121
They don't even need to do that, they could bring a sleeping bag and water and food for 2 days. All plebs leave the cities. Power goes out, water goes out, services stop functioning and the rulers have to negotiate
>No deal
Secession continues with possible looting of the rulers properties(Blackrock etc..)
>Negotiation passes
You won and you can use the same thing again and revert society back to 1950s

>>519234251
Easy
*looks at Europe*
Wow, looks like socializing healthcare and education and having an abundant amount of social safety nets actually results in people being happier and feeling more fulfilled than when they're killing each other over scraps like they do in America

>>519229691 (OP)
A banking cartel controls every aspect of our monetary system.
The government steals almost all of the value produced by working citizens and redistributes it to the banking cartel.
And these stupid gay niggers still somehow think we live in a capitalist society.

>>519229691 (OP)
Rewarding losers who don't contribute to society only encourages more lazy losers. It does not create a utopia. And regardless of the economic model, the sociopaths will find their way to the top of the social pyramid and then proceed to yank up any ladders. Maybe something like a widespread discovery of zero point energy would overturn things, though.

>>519235588
That’s not a free market that’s why the government bails out corpos and banks when they fail with their fake money printer

I've returned to say this.

Greed is good and you can't prove otherwise without referencing fiction.

>>519235402
It's a gladiator arena where a decked out and trained fighter is mowing down a malnourished slave in rags. Also the slave is being convinced never to fight back. If the slave fights back, the illusion of there being no struggle crumbles.

>nature is cruel so we actually have to enslave you and literally sacrifice your entire country for our profit!
>and that's a good thing

Interesting to see most of this thread be unironic Klaus Schwab shills.

>>519230637
>the billionaires were the lazy retarded faggots and drug addicts who always fuck it up
>threatening the American elites
>>519230711
>problem is that with a set of billionaires
>>519230966
>I can buy it from a handful of billionaires
Who are these billionaires, names they have them. You only protect them by referencing them as anonymous billionaires.

>>519229776
>we're not entitled to other people's stuff
So my labor will be rewarded as a percentage of the profit from my production? It's strange how production has gone up and up. As wages stagnate for decades.

>>519229691 (OP)
>nice safe world
kek, not gonna happen lady and no amount of infantile utopian fantasizing will ever change that

>>519235558
They can afford what they've been doing because America helps subsidize national security for various countries.

>>519229691 (OP)
socialism is like "ok hear me out. what if instead of living in a nice safe country where everyone's White, we live in a bad dangerous country where most people starve but two people have like 500 jets"

Klaus Schwab is a capitalist genius by the way. Literally the architect of our modern capitalism as well as the future one.

>>519236000
Capitalists be like, I get 500 jets, you get 500 jeets.

>>519231531
>Real communism has never been tried
KYS tankie. Communism and capitalism dialectics is just jewish usury disguised as a political system.

>>519229691 (OP)
Nazi Germany proved that National Socialism is the most effective and prosperous economic platform to have. Capitalism and communism are two different sides of the same clipped coin.

>>519229691 (OP)
I mean at that point the world can just agree to use a different currency and devalue the wealth instantly.

>>519233762
>Capitalism has failed to adjust and deliver unlike before.
I would more or less frame it as neo-liberal system we have now, but I agree the current system at least from a USA perspective, is not holding up as it used too. I just think “the working class is winning” might be optimistic.

A bit more off topic and me being curious but you sound like a Corporatist (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatism), not to be confused with corporatocracy. The state serves as a forum for negotiation between different social classes.

>>519233762
>this time the nonWhite dependent class is winning.
Fify tankie.

>>519229691 (OP)
Everyone doesn't get rich without rich people. People don't magically have enough. It is childish to think Marxism works despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

>>519229776
If someone is hoarding "stuff" at the detriment of other people's lives, then they deserve to be hanged. These people owning everything is the reason why so many can't have anything.
Billionaires shouldn't exist, shouldn't be allowed to exist.

>>519236205
>Nazi Germany proved that National Socialism is the most effective and prosperous economic platform to have.
The whole economic miracle of Germany then was the military buildup. That was it.

>>519230163
The answer is jews

It quite literally always has been

>>519236501
Sure thing. Not the increased productivity from a population being released from jewish shackles.

>>519236283
I am a communist. I believe communities are capable to manage and govern themselves and their resources and trade and collaborate with each other. No central or higher authority is required.
Especially now with all the tools and technologies we have.

>>519236060
>Just because he's rich, he must be a capitalist
You don't know a single thing about communism, do you?

>>519236722
>Not the increased productivity from a population being released from jewish shackles.
The produced a lot of weapons and military equipment and other government expenditures like infrastructure, for easier military mobility.

>>519235795
Greed is an emotion. Stealing is an action.

>>519234937
>To any wannabe communist here,
They are all jobless druggies that have never held a job for more than a couple paychecks. They already secession plebis every day, LMAO.

>>519230163
I want to have my cake and eat it too mindset. Capitalists are not entitled to rob people and countries with impunity. They would like to be, but they aren't. Attacking the system or people that deprived you and robbed you is a God given right for anyone born into this realm.

>>519235491
No, if wanna be commies fucked off out of the city for a few days. Crime would go down, more customers would frequent shops, and the general welfare of everyone else would improve.
everyone loves it when the crazy homeless druggie isn't there anymore.

>>519229691 (OP)
Will the myth of a communist paradise ever go away,

>>519236837
You don't know a single thing about capitalism. Schwab is just leveraging the capitalist system in clever ways to generate more growth. Please quote me where it's said capitalism is supposed to be pleasant? Schwab is following the manual by envisioning a system that creates more profit than anything ever before. He's the perfect capitalism. The problem for you is, in this process YOU are now also getting fucked. Well, sucks to be you buttercup, should have been born an elite or founded a startup importing infinity jeets! Best system baby!

>>519229776
Other people are not entitled to use indentured servants from the other side of the planet to undermine the value of our labour.

>>519229691 (OP)
i have a massive contempt for people who "get their needs met" and then spend every spare moment doing drugs, trying to fuck something, drinking alcohol, gambling, social media addiction, gambling addiction, and on and on it goes.

it is no one's responsibility to help you feed your addictions unlimitedly

>>519237540
>perfect capitalist*

>>519229691 (OP)
everything in your life is thanks to capitalism

>>519237564
>how dare anyone spend the money they earned trying to escape clown world for as long as they can
You should have contempt for this shithole society that no one wants to be sober while participating in.

>>519237697
I don't think that's a good thing for most people that are not old.

>>519229691 (OP)
Ok, now name them.
Name the billionaires
What group do they belong to.
How did they get rich?
Say it fag.

>>519229691 (OP)
Capitalism is just property rights and voluntary exchange, the alternative is theft and coercion.

>>519237697
Well i didn't get the vaccine so...

>>519237900
I did not volunteer to import then entirety of the 3rd world.

>>519229776
jew

>>519229691 (OP)
ITT: no one knows what capitalism, most especially the OP and his retarded image

Why is it the millionaire and billionaire class bad mouth capitalism and then attack the working class?

This is why I am dubious of what they call "socialism."

>>519237540
>Subverting a capitalist system into gay communism isn't something a communist would do every single time
I'm not sure if you're retarded, or you think I am.

>>519229691 (OP)
>Want's a safe world
>Imports the 3rd world
You could have socialism, you could have multiculturalism, but you can't have both. Sorry libtards.

>>519230163
Funny that, rich people are the real parasites. What do they contribute? You fucks would get destroyed in a civil war because rich people don't have any sense of community. It's always poorfags who band together.

>>519238017
True, that makes the state a coercive force which infringes on property rights. With property rights you could discriminate and exclude whomever you wish for whatever reason.

>>519238214
>What do they contribute?
Taxes you dipshit. What does a welfare queen contribute? Are you really siding with some dumb fat non-working bitch over some guy who you think is "rich", he might have a million bucks or more, but he produces for everyone around him a surplus of value and opportunity. Liberals side with the bums of society because their utopia is taxpayers taking care of their non-working asses while they do nothing but collect working man's money.

>>519235588
Checked. It's a jewish system and it needs to be disbanded. National Socialism is the only way forward, without jews.

>>519229691 (OP)
Kill yourself, commie loser

>>519236205
This. The Germans were happy, they had jobs they could afford homes, good food. For 12 years the Germans were free, until the jews dragged them into the war via Churchill.

>>519238361
It is necessary to have a state or some similar organizational unit, because other groups will do that, and if you choose not to those other groups will eventually come and rob/enslave/kill you.

>>519238214
>rich people are the real
Who are these rich people, can you name them?

>>519238387
Under National Socialism everyone would thrive, because there would support systems that enable the fat welfare queen to have a good paying job and afford what she needs. If you are against this you are a kike or a nigger. Not to mention the majority of rich people are kikes, just like it was in Weimar Republic.

>>519238723
JEWS

>>519238155
>devise a system
>it maximizes profit on a global market
>biggest wealth generation potential in history
>it's subverted communism because i don't like it
Cool story, seems like you're not a capitalist.

>>519232392
>post made from a comfy commie block

>>519229776
What a cucked thing to say

>>519231686
Zoomers are the most psychopathic generation of retards to ever live, anon.

>>519239041
>Big centralized authority
>Lies to the masses about meeting their needs
>The elite few live in unmatched luxury while 99.99% of humanity lives in hell
The WEF is communist, no amount of autistic screeching about it not being "true communism" is going to change that. Hory shit, did they put retard juice in your sake, or are you a vpnigger?

>>519229691 (OP)
>>519230784
I hope you fucking die

>>519229691 (OP)
Even if we just took their money it wouldn't pay for everyone's basic needs
I guess we could more away from financial capitalism and move back to managerial capitalism
but we would still have a lot of brown people around here

>>519235491
>food for 2 days
They'll outlast you because you're dependent on the same systems. Roman plebs could live off the land indefinitely. Modern workers couldn't do it, as a collective, for a single day.

>>519230163
Thank fuck richfags die just the same

>>519239519
>managerial capitalism
I'm not googling that sorry
Death to fucking kikes though.
***
>start company
>it does well and you become rich
>"Please stop being rich."
>"How?"
>"Sell your company."
>"But I'll still be rich?"
>"Then use the money to start a new company."
>start a dozen more, some do well
>"Please stop starting companies, some of them are stupid and I don't like them."
>"So what am I supposed to do with the money?"
>"Give it to me."

>>519235864
The duality of pol. We have anons here who are globalist cocksuckers and they don’t even realize it

>>519229691 (OP)
If we lived in that world they are describing, they would find a way to make that miserable as well.

>>519239336
WEF doesn't intend to be a centralized authority. It's just the governing body that intends to pass down its strain of capitalism from the top down. Needs and comfort what? Freedom? Remember, we're generating PROFIT. All the other stuff is supposed to trickle down from the profit, not be a separate goal on its own, because that would fuck with the market. A lot of freedom and comfort has been trampled down to achieve the growth we're at today. Why is my existence cucked by laws, why is my country being flooded by immigrants, why am I being forced to maximize my efficiency within in the system by fear of losing my home and food to eat, not to mention luxuries or having a family and envisioning a safe stable future for this family. Schwab is just doubling down on this progression. Turn up the heat more, extract more profit. You just don't want to be in the pot. Doesn't mean it's not the exact same thing we have been doing for a long time.

>>519238680
The nation state is a frankenstein abomination though. The nation is just a coalition of states which have been coerced or duped into feeding the nation state idol. It exists as a myth, similar to the divine right of kings, to us now the idea of the divine right of kings is absurd, just something made up. If you take an impartial perspective on the formation of a nation state it is similarily absurd and completely made up. The coalition of states which form the nation state would still exist and can protect themselves against frankenstein abominations by working together whilst still maintaining their independence. The Holy Roman Empire lasted 1000 years surrounded by centralized states as an example.

>>519231255
no they don't lmao
And they especially do not like Israel, fucking retard. You are absolutely clueless
>>519231686
Psychopaths are deleterious to humanity. A world run by psychopaths is unsurprisingly miserable, soulless, devoid of humanity, unhappy, vain, shallow, materialistic, exploitative, and rotten. Just like psychopaths themselves.

>>519229776
Then surely you agree that profit is theft. The labor that created it is, indeed, “other people’s stuff.”

>>519229691 (OP)
Think of it this way.

The billionaires are paying the wages of the people who build the yachts and harvest the lumber so they can eat.

>>519229691 (OP)
how does importing millions of hungry shitty retards improve life for people already struggling here?

>>519239936
The 2% of values-free psychos in the world are responsible for about 60% of the problems. Any movement devoted to identifying them and putting bullets and blades in them would get taken over by psychos as soon as it became popular.

>>519229691 (OP)
Stupid
No one owns 500 yachts
Thats preposterous

>>519240385
>labor theory of value
just kill yourself

>>519229691 (OP)
Whatever the government offers, it can EASILY rescind OP.

>>519229691 (OP)
im not even close to being a millionaire and im doing fanfuckingtastic
get a job loser

>>519233503
>>519233762
Central banking is the problem, not capitalism.

>>519240666
Your skill in debate is unequaled.

>>519240666
this picture must be jewish or gay or something, i can't find anything else about it to help invalidate it.

>>519239674
>schizo posting
grow up

>>519238844
>In my fantasy system everyone would thrive, the evidence is some country that collapsed and got raped by russians 80 years ago

I love capitalism. I do not support cheap foreign illegal labor being allowed. I do not support public monies benefiting for-profit enterprises whose employees are on public assistance.
Trump has made $3000000000 since taking office.

>>519236429
This. It’s not like the 90’s where people were mad that an owner made $22M a year. If you redistributed the leader’s income it would only have been $200 a year for everyone. Communism would have been demotivating and more harmful than the rich people back then. But today, Bezo’s income could double or triple everyone else's salary. Not wanting to be slaves is not communism and it’s not envy. Bezos and his billionaire buddies are not entitled to 99.999% of what I produce.

>>519236501
Which was paid for by seizing the assets of the top 0.2% of the country through socialist redistribution.

>>519240960
>>519238844
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRlbUeji01U

>>519229691 (OP)
You actually believe that 500 yachts is all it takes to cover everyone's basic needs?

>>519229691 (OP)
>okay hear me out, what if instead of living in a nice safe culture where we can raise families lets live in a bad hedonistic culture where most guys cant even get a date and 2 guys can fuck 500 women

>>519240666
It’s actually just common sense. You have a slave brain so you think it’s okay for a single man to profit from the labor of 1000.

>>519241330
If you confiscated a third of their wealth, you could have free health care for all, and the billionaires would have to scrape by somehow on hundreds of millions of dollars.

>>519241669
they will embezzle it back in 2 years

>>519229776
So essentially life isnt sacred? Whats more important, money or God?

>>519241669
We already do have free healthcare for the poors and old people, and it's a huge portion of that budget.

>>519241838
>tell me you've never held a passport
US tourists come here and are amazed how little we live under the corporate heel. Modifying capitalism with social repair work isn't anything but making yourself comfy as the system collapses, we're doing it.

>>519241801
no. in a society controlled by Jews hoarding money is the only way circumvent their cultural influence and social programs.

>>519229691 (OP)
>nice safe world where everyone's basic needs are met
Basic needs are air and sun. All other you need to get by yourselfs, fag. Or you will become a lazy piece of manure for really good people.

>>519229691 (OP)
I'm not paying for your shit nigger, get a job

>>519242019
I don't give two shits about the opinion of some slackjawed tourist, nor is it convincing me that I actually want to pay for some fatass nigger's healthcare.

>>519241330
Cope its all useless digital shit anyways. if wealth inequality got cut in half the middle class would get like a 50% raise snd the lower class 2x thats just facts

>>519242370
Yeah, it worked really great every time it's been tried.

>>519229691 (OP)
how come faggot leftist retards tell us to trust the science but then refuse to listen to economists?

>>519240960
kike

>>519229691 (OP)
Because dumbasses think they will one day be as rich as musk or bezos, while they work 40 hours a week for a 30K salary.
If people realized how rigged the game was, they would shut the whole system down tomorrow.

>>519242482
because they want instant gratification.

>>519242370
>if wealth inequality got cut in half
You can steal from billionaires but the money would be wasted. Middle class wealth won't increase unless wages increase. This requires deportations. The Democrat policies are very anti-worker as they devastated middle class and working class.

>>519241613
>okay here me out, instead of living in a nice safe culture where every guy can raise a family, lets live in a bad hedonistic one where most men are treated like trash and one woman can fuck 500 guys
fixed it

My biggest gripe with capitalism currently is how much JUNK is created. There entire factories out there drawing power and consuming resources just to churn out shitty plastic toys that will be sold at Dollar Tree.

>>519242677
No one wants to be rich we just want to be able to afford shit again, because the current system is no longer working. Third world shitstains are taking jobs from Americans and the cost of everything keeps going up while the kikes in power continue to enrich themselves at our expense. We are speed running Weimar Republic. Young men have checked out of society because there's nothing to gain by contributing. Won't be long till White children are out on the streets starving, while kikes dine in fine restaurants and toss their scraps to dogs. This is what they did to German kids and they'll do it to American kids too.

>>519242326
Sounding pretty Africanized and volatile there, Jamal.

Because I have a cookie and I want to lord that over the other guy without one.

>>519243054
>because the current system is no longer working
There has been ZERO investment in Europe for the last decade. The governments print new money, hand it to failing banks and corporations, they buy their own shares and the line on the graph goes up.

The system has been a corpse on life support for over 25 years, taking more fresh blood from the people than ever while pumping poison to them.

So the system is working fine.

>>519229691 (OP)
>give the poors thousands of dollars
>they spend it on bullshit
>it goes right back into the pockets of billionares

great plan

>>519229691 (OP)
Why do you think you're entitled to other people's money?

>>519245156
It stimulates the economy instead of having half of all wealth locked up in property and shares as a rent-seeking strategy.

>>519245215
>dog brained question
Money circulates or it doesn't. Allowing it to accumulate into accounts makes it depreciate faster than anything else does. Allowing it to fly to swiss bank accounts and return as lobbyist cash is a literal suicide the US has been involved in for generations now.

>>519245365
Property ownership is inherently rent-seeking. "Stimulating" the economy is just jewish fraud.

>>519245557
Yep! Capitalism offers the garbage of slavery or the shit of starvation, choose your meal wisely.

Lose/lose games are the mark of the psychopath, btw.

>>519229691 (OP)
Taking money from the two richest people will not create more food, increase housing supply or improve healthcare, it's paper or digits on a set of computers, it can be exchanged for what exists but cannot conjure it i to existence

>>519230784
We've had decades of living under socialist regimes. Nothing ever happens, it's the same ol' kikes ruling over everyone while infinijeets happens. They let every single mudslime in to kill us. Their only problem is there are not enough mudslimes to let walk in.

>>519229691 (OP)
Due process. If you were him would you want your 500 yachts stolen and melted down into kitkat bars for the homeless.

cuckpitalism and trannyunism doesn't work because there are too many people on earth, especially turdies in the the turd world.
Nuke China,nuke India, nuke SEA, nuke Africa and you might get a world where these forms of economic governance works.

>>519245651
Yeah man, capitalism is just horrible. That's why North Korea is so much better than South Korea and China is so much better than Taiwan.

>>519245538
>Generic college leftist talking points
Billionaires don't keep their money in some Scrooge McDuck vault retard.

>>519229691 (OP)
>Implying any other economic system ends up differently
At least with capitalism you have a chance to come from nothing to 500 yachts, no other system offers that possibility, only people that already have 400 yachts have a chance to get 500 yachts

>>519245557
You vill own nothing comrade

>>519230784
Holy fuck I wish the elites would kill you poors faster.

>safe
This has nothing to do with capitalism. Feeling unsafe is entirely because we have shitskins running around free.

>>519229691 (OP)
the richest black community in the nation has double the crime of the poorest White community. Money will not make the dangerous bad world safe. Get rid of all of humanity except for Whites and North-East Asians. Without even touching the economy, you'd have a near utopia overnight.

>>519231255
Anon, only 8% of democrats support Israel and leftists are way farther left than the average democrat. You could probably count the number of pro Israel leftists in the world on your fingers.

>>519229691 (OP)
"nice safe world" is not what the anti-capitalists are offering.

No sale because you're a liar.

>>519246197
>Job statistics, aren't real
>Crime statistics, totally real

>>519246381
wrong. if you gave them a survey that said
>A: are you aginst israel because you are redpilled on jewish tricks?
or
>B: are you against israel because you think jews are white, and israel is white supremacy?
the number that would choose A is not 92% like you imply

>>519246945
What is this pathetic non-argument? That anon didn't say that job stats aren't real. Are you just butthurt about racism being accurate?

>>519229691 (OP)
who gave them yachts? almost every complaint about capitalism just boils down to bad consumers. stop buying their shit if it upsets you.

>>519229691 (OP)
Because some people take risks to produce goods and services that increase the wealth of society and others are worthless genetic garbage who contribute nothing and sponge off society. Let the genetically unfit starve and everyone's needs will be met via market transactions.

>>519229691 (OP)
because one day, that will be my yacht

>>519235864
>Who are these billionaires, names they have them. You only protect them by referencing them as anonymous billionaires
Are you retard or something?
Owners of perplexity, anthrophic, openai, google, microjeet.

>>519229691 (OP)
What you gon do bout it consumer boi?

>>519246945
idk what the fuck you're talking about but have fun with picrel

>>519229691 (OP)
I'm not prepared to go off a Communist's definition of 'basic needs', is all

>>519229691 (OP)
Capitalism is a cancer that eats at the soul of the nation. But your argument is really some fictitious plebbit slop? There are countless economic and social criticisms of capitalism and you chose this? Kill yourself you retarded nigger faggot.

>>519229776
why dont we get them 1000 or 1M yachts instead then?

>>519229691 (OP)
Total myth owning a yacht is the easiest way for a billionaire to become a millionaire shit is expensive

>>519229691 (OP)
Basic needs in no way mean leisure, you are an animal meaning as long you have slop and water, your needs are met. Thats why communist societies are depressing hellholes.

>>519229691 (OP)
Your options are
>billionaires have yachts but you can buy property to live on
>ruling class has yachts and you live in an apartment

Stop being a faggot

>>519248834
We only have 110,000 shipwrights in the US, every one of them would have to make like 10 yachts by themselves

>>519248172
>Ask who the billionaires are
Jeet arrives
>Head bobbling intensifies
>Saars, billionaires own billionaire companies, Indians super smart

>>519246099
Your kids will be trannies and fags all of your lineage will burn in Hell

>>519241330
Okay? What if we didn't distribute it but instead invested it into public works projects. How much would it cost to build a bullet train network across the USA? How about simple public bathrooms in every city? How about tram lines in every town? Hmmm.. I mean you hear about these rich persons building crazy bunkers, right?

>>519229691 (OP)
I hate condecending boomers. They say "work harder, I worked and slaved all of my life, I deserve this wealth, I was smart with my money"

When they had it easy as fuck, we aren't going to be able to retire. We will be replaced by robots and AI, competing for the lowest paying jobs we can get, competing with imported labor.

Fuck them, I want money. I want a monthly allowance, you can't buy up property during the easy days for dirt cheap and then retire while those less fortunate have to suffer.

What kind of system can be fair and equitable? There isn't enough room in this nation for everyone to be well off, it's an unfair competition that favors the elite and middle class.

>>519229776
Those billionaires take other peoples stuff
They just run a gay system created for them that pretends they dont, and you go along with it because. Well I dunno you tell me

All of the following are degenerate and evil:
>Liberal individualism
>Usury
>Shareholder capitalism

golems and hylic npcs have no answer to OP

>if I lick the boot long enough one day I will be wearing the boot.. surely..

lmao

>>519229691 (OP)
Why is giving two dictators 500 yachts more important than creating a nice safe world where everyone's basic needs are met? Leftists are literally retarded.

>>519229691 (OP)
>instead of living in a safe world where people's basic needs are met
Right there is the fallacy and the problem. Leftie retards think the basic form of life is prosperity. It's not. The basic form of life is poverty and capitalism rose many out of it.

>>519229691 (OP)
this is not capitalism, this is ninja looting.

>>519229776
>Because we're not entitled to other people's stuff.
I agree, we should eliminate Social Security tax and cut off all benefits for the parasites who refuse to die.
Oh wait that doesn't fit the boomers narrative

>>519239193
As a zoomer, you're so fucking right. We're either unemotional autists who've been fucked by the Anti-White government so long, that we're unironic natsocs, or we're faggots who are so emotional that any time a bad thing happens to a brown person, they personally feel responible, and will take it on their own behalf to belittle every other white person to feel better about themselves.
>or were brown

>>519252706
>describe something that happens in capitalism
>blame communism

>>519230711
Not that’s the problem with top down government

>>519241419
>schacht
definte jew

>>519229691 (OP)
>>519248962
hear me out, what if the people pursuing this capitalistic system who buy everything and make the world shit are actual communists trying to usher in the want for their system while stealing everything anyway?
problem
reaction
solution

>>519229776
Does that go for degrading the environment too?

>>519253659
The man who was president of the Reichsbank and who tried at Nuremburg?

Cmon anon, be better.

>>519254750
so why was he put into a camp?

>>519229691 (OP)
In the latter half of the 20th Century billions were lifted out of poverty, including in the US, by Capitalism while Communism murdered at least 150 million of its own citizens.

>>519229691 (OP)
> safe
> dangerous
unless they're going to address the root cause and the specific demographics that are violent, this is all masturbation.
communism makes everyone poor, doesn't let you own shit, and eventually leads to starvation and mass killings by government employees.
anyone claiming otherwise is a lazy fuck that wants your money and house.

>>519229691 (OP)
The GDP of course. Needs that are met don't yield any profits, and neither do workers who aren't absolutely desperate for pennies.

>>519230666
It doesn't in Argentina.

$60 billion bailout by the IMF and the US taxpayer.

>>519237769
most of these people are not spending their own money to do this shit. they're thieves who run around without accountability.

i see soooooooo many people who are the cause of their own problems. and when you explain to them how that is - they just don't like the path they have to take to fix it because it doesn't involve getting high and/or drunk and trying to fuck everything they see.

i am doing fine in this society, and the only problem i have right now is pussy hound men propping up women's egos. whenever men pull back from catering to women in the slightest, there are always faggot men who are lying in wait to flex their narcissism like "i guess it's my turn and i'm 'succeeding' with women because i'm better than you guys" and the cycle continues. this is what war is for. to purge this filth, but the problem is it can't be the strong who die. the weak pieces of degenerate shit need to die.

>>519229691 (OP)
okay so hear me out.. people will somehow magically be provided food, water, shelter, clothing, and other basics without needing to do anything, or a job they don't want to do.

and they can fuck snd get pregnant to their hearts content creating as many new mouths to feed with no actual contributions.

>>519251996
>How much would it cost to build a bullet train network across the USA?
>How about simple public bathrooms in every city?
>How about tram lines in every town?
I literally would rather not have any of these than have them, even if they were free.
Your shortsighted confiscation would also destroy the US economy as assuredly as it destroyed the Chinese economy.

>>519229691 (OP)
If Lord of the rings taught us anything it is that money corrupts, no rich person can be trusted, greedy bastards

>>519256141
Garbage argument as boomers earned way more back in the day and still worked, tired of all the gaslighting black and white statements

>>519230711
That’s why historically we had a criminal element capable of killing them, but today’s criminals are also billionaires. The police unironically protect these people.

>>519229776
this, communists just don't get it. No one wants to live in a shity fucking communist society where you have to live in a pod and eat bugs while the Party basically gets to live la vida loca like capitalists anyway.

Communism was made by jews for a reason, its a scam.

Capitalism was made by white men, jews just exploited it for their own benefit.
>>519230938
No
These chink wumao always scream muh kikes while their entire system was founded by jews

>>519229691 (OP)
Billions of dollars have been given to Africans and they still live in dirt. Rich people having 500 yachts or donating all their money to Africa literally does not make a difference.

have you noticed how life's unfair?
well nigga that means some people are better at doing something than others.
and guess what? people are willing to give more money to someone who does things better.
sure you can call out trust fund kids as people with an unfair advantage but still they provide more than your average wagecuck.
his lifestyle is protected by rights and privileges, his existence secure millions of jobs and thus needed to have a functioning society.
just like kings and nobles.
ofc jews

>>519229691 (OP)
You just present a gross mischaracterization of capitalism.

>>519242470
ironically, corporations are "fascists and communist"
if you looked at them as if they were little countries
it's reductionistic but it shows that these systems
are actually more efficient in certain senses
as evidenced by the fact that these structural
orientations were selected for in a profit maximizing environment

>>519242482
>listen to economists
but the advice they are giving is bad and the system is rigged

>>519229691 (OP)
I don't want non-whites to have free stuff.

>>519229691 (OP)
You can just not buy shit from Amazon.

>>519259166
>Why is giving two billionaires 500 yachts more important than creating a nice safe world where everyones basic needs are met?
Capitalists are literally anoned.

What do you mean by this?

why are leftists politics genuinely so childish and immature?

>I don’t have stuff WHY DOES HE HAVE MORE STUFF

like this is it. Spiritually nigger ideology just wants gibs has no idea how to generate value for themselves
>>519229776
Fpbp you got them seething with one simple trick