Thread 519241633

What do the conservatives even want? I live in italy, we are a right wing country mostly (i'm left tho) but if an italian conservative entered USA he would be called straight up a leftist. I really want to understand because when i read the conservative posts on social media it feels like a completely different world.
>The limited free healthcare we have get used by illegals
But just because a million illegal use it doesn't mean you have to remove it to 300 millions americans
>We have to rebuild it
If you remove it you will never get anything done. Isn't changing it better than just reinventing the wheel? Because it feels like a politician would use that money for himself and just stall it out
>radical left there radical left that
I get it, it's your turn to call everything the "radical left" because everything was "radical right" but isn't it pointless? It just divide you more. I hear a lot about the indian NYC dude that is running for mayor, he's not a communist lol. He sound more like a social democrat, nothing socialist or communist.

>>519241633 (OP)
>leave me the fuck alone
>leave my money the fuck alone
>stop being degenerates
>stop supporting mental illness
>stop disregarding laws because of your feelings

there. that's basically it.

>>519241633 (OP)
I still just want to pwn the libs

I figured an italian would understand better from all the fuck cuck games the commies played in your country but...

the entire system of government has been captured ideologically by subversives cultured by the USSR and they are right now trying to overthrow the constitution through lawfare and flooding illegals to demographically change the nation.
The only way to fix it is to gut the system while we train heritage americans for these institutional roles

>>519241633 (OP)
Yeah Europe is gay and retarded we're all aware of that you dumbass

>>519241633 (OP)
>What do the conservatives even want?
To suck jewish cock and eat jewish cum.
That's what conservatism is all about.

>>519241633 (OP)
>What do conservatives want?
Conservative politicians want this:
Bribes from Israel
Goyim to fight for Israel
Epstein pedophilia

>>519241633 (OP)
>What do the conservatives even want
The preservation, protection, and assistance into greatness of the nation of Israel
Nothing else is important.

>>519241937
>heritage americans
aka pajeet pharma scammers

>>519241633 (OP)
It's just tribalism. They hate the gays and they hate the Mexicans and they hate the libs. That's about it.

>>519242055
>>519242016
This
Also togli quella memeflag op

>>519241770
>leave me the fuck alone for me but not for thee

>>519241633 (OP)
I want to live in a world with the demographic of the 50s before the waves of browns and niggers

>>519241770
>leave me the fuck alone
>leave my money the fuck alone
I mean, your big orange boy is bailing out Argentina and is scamming people with crypto. That's not it.
>stop supporting mental illness
define mental illness, being gay/trans is not. The one you want to be left alone from just use their sexuality as a way to mask their other issues to be honest
>>519241937
>rom all the fuck cuck games the commies played in your country
No, you fucked us over with operation Gladio, just be honest about it because gaslighting is not going to work
>The only way to fix it is to gut the system while we train heritage americans for these institutional roles
If you do that you leave free reign to techbros and they are going to fuck you over. And europe as an extra because we are still too much dependent on your stuff
>>519242168
No dio can, io sono europeista, per una europa federale, da portogallo alla ucraina/turchia/georgia holè

you retards are plugged directly into the ZOG. Our own ZOG outlets tell us only 17% of the government actually gets shut down when this happens. Everything else is declared essential

That means they don't consider the army's pay essential, but sending dildos to Bangladeshi children is a top priority. Also the democrat party is really weak right now so the republican party is crushing their neck with their boot so they suffocate and maybe they win a midterm out of it?

>>519241633 (OP)
I don't believe you're posting from Italy. Why would you need a memeflag? Wouldn't it have been easier to not use it?

>>519241633 (OP)
they want bbc and to serve israel

>>519241633 (OP)
anon, if you still believe in "healthcare" after 2020, I don't know what else to tell you
you're too retarded to be breathing my air

>>519242278
Better? I stand for a federal european union, that's all. But i'm still italian

>>519242278
The decadent American conservative only thinks in terms of what is easy.

>>519241633 (OP)
>But just because a million illegal use it doesn't mean you have to remove it to 300 millions americans
The poorest states that would benefit most from liberal policy all vote Republican. It's just spite. These people happily vote to make their own lives harder if it means the blacks have it worse.

>>519242221
>define mental illness, being gay/trans is not

please fill out the worksheet before continuing this thread.

>>519242221
Vabe, almeno fai bene a ricordare a sti merdoni della Gladio

>>519242350
>I stand for a federal european union

1. cap on the mill rate at 9%
2. no tax on fuel or food
3. no high seasonal tax

on paper american conservatives want the government to be like how the 18th century liberals who created it intended for it to be. in reality they are just a ball and chain attached to progressivism whose only real purpose is to keep money flowing to israel.

>>519242588
>progressivism
Died in the 1930s

>>519242350
I put cream in my carbonara

>>519241633 (OP)
Conservatives aren't a monolith. A lot of them want smaller government, lower taxes, and fewer regulations. Some are more left leaning and what conservation, a government that does it's job and is a good steward of tax dollars, and policies that directly benefit America.

>>519242669
>died
it accomplished all of its original goals and started adopting new ones. that's how progressivism works. what was radical 100 years ago is reactionary today.

>>519242669
nah, when bush jr did his magic and started giving all those loans to people with 0 credit THAT was progressivism, which is just a shot of whiskey away from a full blown socialist

No healthcare because illegals use it

No jobs because illegals take it

No sex because illegals rape too much

No independent workers because illegals can't follow codes and regulations for shit

No questions.

>>519242349
The world is mostly run by old people, in our case we can't touch it because old people make a lot of votes. It's mostly shit with a lot of wait time, but i still get my lifesaving meds for free :3
>>519242391
I'm a man, i just don't want peoples who just want to live their life being killed/hurted by other people/the system because they have a different sexuality
>>519242423
Yeah, it's a retarded take for now, but i really want to believe in it, they got to let us vote for an european election tho.
>>519242783
>fewer regulations
Regulations is the reason we have such a high life expectancy, removing them could be dangerous i guess, and a smaller government would open it to be more corrupt in a way. Less people to bribe

Ahh yes I am sure this time OP will reply and take place in the conversation
When you create fake threads with fake replies what you need to do is include OP botting with replies so it looks organic

Essentially you stepped off on the wrong foot, there can be legit replies and there is a way to detect them via AI by questions of authorship
Maybe the newer models are even better but older ones would become confused
By asking, is this post posted by the same person without checking ids first, the ai gets all befuddled and can’t tell
with individuals that appear and most likely are organic it gets a percentage chance

I am giving this freebie out, but without letting you know the prompt
Anyone who knows what stylometry is will be on the right foot

It’s computationally expensive and not foolproof
What it showed me is that the number of anons is low

I was also able to identify anons posting across multiple threads, so realize by your posting style if this was used on a bunch of public text in other social media then you’re doxxed

This is the difficult solution. The easy is of course just having spooks at cloudfare and server side

I spent about a week or so coding this up
If a business has a team imagine what they already are capable of doing
>also made a nify spifty local website to have some stupid gui cuz all command line gets boring. yippie.

>>519242803
You have no idea what you are talking about, just like every other retarded conservative.

>>519241633 (OP)
It’s hard explaining the MAGA right to all my European friends. The best explanation is that MAGA movement is made up of extremely low IQ people, the stupidest least educated Americans . This is not an insult but an actual fact. Being in maga makes them feel like they belong somewhere and that even though they are mentally stunted, they can combine in this movement to make changes to the country even if these changes are destroying it.

>>519241633 (OP)
>From an USA outsider
Your memeflag says otherwise. Real Europeans don't have to use that flag.

>>519241770
>leave me the fuck alone
>I can tell you what you can do
You can only pick one without being a hypocrite

>>519241633 (OP)
We want to kill out enemies and Make America White Again

>>519241770
and for some reason that's too hard for the government to do.

>>519241633 (OP)
>i wave my magic wand and boom. free healthcare!
what do we now do with the millions of now unemployed insurance form fillers and medical paper shufflers? literally millions of jobs. and the industrys they supported. and the industrys they supported. and the raw materials industrys THEY supported?
what do we do?

wow he responded to his thread and took off the flag
shocking

>>519241633 (OP)
Show flag.

>>519243154
>>519243256
I stopped mid thread from using it. I'm still european lol
>>519243223
Why? My question are genuine anon.

>>519241633 (OP)
The only thing conservatives are about is preserving Israel everything else is unimportant while the left is about preserving Israel and doing the opposite of whatever the right is doing.

>>519241633 (OP)
>What do the conservatives even want?
To be good goys.

>>519243159
>without being a hypocrite
Who gives a fuck? I only support rights for people like me. I oppose rights for people I don't like. Equality is a spook and human rights don't exist.

>>519241633 (OP)
>just a million
It's tens of millions. They also have no loyalty to the country so they feel no shame in using up *every* available dollar.

Europeans will never understand that the reason America can't have nice things is niggers and illegals (through the power of Jews).

The answer is always niggers and illegals. You faggots don't understand just how many niggers and illegals there are.

>>519243178
Insurance and some form of free healthcare need to coexist, or you get what you have now, thousands of dollar lost on an insurance contracts that doesn't even cover your needs
>>519243415
>I oppose rights for people I don't like
Anon, if hitler was in power he would go after the people you didn't like and then? You. You can be an opportunist and still believe in EQUAL OPPORTUNITY (not equal rights, that's retarded lol)

>>519243498
so no improvement. no change. you got nothing.
yeah we're doin that already. thanks tho for your non-ideas?

>>519243313
rido a >>519243067 che t'ha scritto un muro di testo inutile lol quanto stanno schizzati diocane

>>519241633 (OP)
>What do the conservatives even want?
They have no strategy. But neoconservatism is trotskyism.

>>519243134
ok retard. feminism was part of the progressive movement. why are they still around when they got the vote a century ago? because once they had "progressed" to the point they wanted they just set new goals even further away from how it was before. why do they keep adding letters to lgblt? because fags got everything they wanted short of forcing straight people to suck their diseased cocks so the movement had to move on to the next mental illness.

>>519241633 (OP)
you know a lot don't you? you are such a genius that's why italy is an irrelevant shithole

>>519243474
>You faggots don't understand just how many niggers
They are tax paying americans anon, even if they are poor. Or is there some kind of black job market like italy where they pay you without paying any taxes? And to be honest, to get free healthcare here you need an italian document isn't it the case in there aswell? Like, maybe for extreme emergency they will patch you up, but that's all.
>>519243655
Eh. Yeah i'm kinda retarded. Removing it and starting up something new is not going to help tho
>>519243657
Colpa dei post fatti con i bot sicuro, oramai quasi non si sa più chi sia reale o meno
>>519243771
I don't know anything, that's why i'm asking and trying to understand.

>>519242350
Yes, better. Since you removed the memeflag I'll address it. The political left doesn't just stand for universal healthcare, they also stand for homosexuality, DEI, mass immigration, protecting everyday criminals from prosecution and incarceration, and climate change initiatives that the people always end up paying for. All of their policies inevitably lead to less liberty in the form of poverty, becoming the victim of crime, being silenced for contrary opinions, and overturning the people's will through the use of political devices like federal judges and voting laws that allow election rigging. Even though the right is vocally zionist and cringey AF they don't fuck up the homeland like the left is hellbent on doing. I hope that clarifies things.

>>519243498
>Insurance and some form of free healthcare need to coexist
says who? america had zero forms of government health insurance before 1965 and it's not like people were falling over dead in the streets before then. if you want to give people
"free" shit because you feel some empathy or brotherhood for them spend your own money to do it.

>>519241633 (OP)
Our doctors today are no better than medieval doctors with leeches and mercury "treatments."

If you put all our "doctors" into a giant oven and burned them to death then our life expectancy would probably improve in America.

That's why I don't want to be forced to pay for other people getting their "services."

The only service I want them performing is in a coliseum being devoured by lions for public entertainment

>>519241633 (OP)
>if you remove it you will never get anything done
Its absolutely critical that you understand, that in ZERO ways is the government helping the healthcare situation. Here or for Italy and the rest of Europe. Socialized healthcare is a scam that only can happen because the United States hasn't adopted it. I genuinely wish that humanitarians didn't force us to share medicine with you faggots so you can learn just how dead you little fagguettes should be without us

>>519243749
>feminism was part of the progressive movement. why are they still around when they got the vote a century ago? because once they had "progressed" to the point they wanted they just set new goals even further away from how it was before.
lmao what is this rush limbaugh bullshit?
You have never read anything longer than a social media post and it shows.

>>519244166
you don't have a single argument just "you're stupid." typical leftist.

eurofags are cringe

>>519244037
>america had zero forms of government health insurance before 1965 and it's not like people were falling over dead in the streets before then.
Delusional retard.
>>519244267
>has nothing to say other than braindead conservative memes from 20 years ago, demands to be taken seriously
lmao you stupid nigger

conservatives want libs to be trolled and for anything they reflexively see as "weird" to be illegal.

>>519244166
>rush limbaugh
Dittos to heaven, Rush.

>>519241633 (OP)
>What do the conservatives even want?
prosperity and power for the jews

>>519241633 (OP)
We want shit to get mad about, really. Politics has been entertainment for decades. It may seem retarded now, but even in the eighties we'd have televised debates which were then reduced to some retarded gotcha that was repeated by the media ad infinitum. Nobody really cares about policy or nuance and especially not complexity. If you can't reduce shit to a sentence I don't want to hear it. Political parties are treated like sports teams. Also, immediacy. We have zero interest that is going to have 8% benefit in five years. Shit's got to happen right now today. "We are tightening border controls and are making investments in ... " NO. "We blew up a boat full of drugs (we think) today." YES.

>>519241633 (OP)
Fuck off faggot. We want you killed is what we want. Fuckin pussy whiney euro trash with no balls condescendingly telling us we're backwards for not giving away our country so we can look like nice guys. You have no spine, it's not altruism, it's cowardice

>>519241633 (OP)
Read the defectors. You're dialectically converged beyond having recognition of the issues.

>>519244015
>mass immigration, protecting everyday criminals from prosecution and incarceration
The only thing that i hate about the left (ours) is this, they don't address it because they are scared to be called racist, that's retarded
>homosexuality, DEI
Homosexuality is nothing you should care about. if someone suck dick is not my problem. DEI should focus on people with handicaps. If you are blind, DEI initiative will help you out. It shoulnd't be THAT deep.
>>519244037
>spend your own money to do it.
That's where my taxes go anon. I don't mind paying taxes for a system that works (mostly work as of now). Like in big production, the bigger the system the less money they would need to do stuff? I don't know how to explain it sorry. But like, with 5 euro i can't get nothing medically. But those 5 euro in taxes can pay for a few blood tests for someone else that needs it in that particular moment.

>>519241633 (OP)
Fuck off, Luigi, and eat a nigger dick.
If all euros areas weak as you, you’re doomed.

>>519241633 (OP)
>I live in italy, we are a right wing country mostly

>>519241633 (OP)
MAGA is a cult of personality. That's what it's boiled down to.

>>519244499
Everyone is saying this

>>519241633 (OP)
>But just because a million illegal use it doesn't mean you have to remove it to 300 millions americans
What the actual fuck?

>>519244529
>communist symbol
I'm a social democrat. Not socialist. Not communist.
>>519244499
>Fuckin pussy whiney euro trash with no balls condescendingly telling us we're backwards for not giving away our country so we can look like nice guys
I'm not saying anything against USA right now. BUT YOU GUYS ARE PUTTING FUCKING TARIFFS ON OUR PASTA. Your choice really.If you want to flame about something, let's shit on each others about tariffs

>>519241633 (OP)
american politics are a judeo-masonic ritual much like the barnum and bailey circus shows

>>519244532
>That's where my taxes go anon. I don't mind paying taxes for a system that works
ok so you're free to pay for it. why are you allowed to make the decision for me if I don't want to pay for it with my money? if I take your wallet because I feel like I know better than you how to spend it it's called "theft," but when the government does it it's called "socialism."

>>519241633 (OP)
they're chimping out. You know how blacks riot and burn down their own neighborhoods for no reason at all? White American conservatives are doing the same but to the country.

We were the greatest and wealthiest country ever. And now, we'll be lucky to remain in the top 5. Self-infected wound

>>519244532
>Homosexuality is nothing you should care about.
It should be a fetish that nobody's proud of. It definitely shouldn't be part of a school's curriculum. There shouldn't be trannies instructing children on sexual topics and obscene sexual displays on public streets because it's June. I'd love to just not worry about it, but, they absolutely will not stop until they're able to legally fuck children.

>>519241633 (OP)
Americas go at socialized healthcare made healthcare more expensive and less accessible to most Americans, and then fined you for not being able to afford it. This left a terrible taste in the mouth of most Americans, not necessarily because of the idea of a better healthcare system, but because when democrats enact policy it generally negatively impacts the majority of people while they can point to a very small minority and say it’s helping people. Currently immigrants get more access to healthcare than citizens do, the programs they use, or fact that they just don’t pay, is not at all applicable to the rest of the 300mil legal citizens. The “far left” has long stopped talking about cost of living, improving pay, or anything other than crazy social ideals and racial grievances. They have been given lip service by a party that routinely fails to actually follow through with any real form of socialized programs, while launching programs that make life worse for everyone to the benefit of corporations while telling you it’s actually super liberal and good, and the American left has bought it up without question, making them insufferable and destructive fools. In fact the usual answer to a poor person directly complaining about these policies hurting them is “you’re just defending billionaires”. The American right is now a large coalition of people who want different things, from across the political spectrum but largely unified by the desire to uninstall democrats and their disastrous policies and ideals from normal life. This is due to the massive failure of the democrat party and the recent “my way or you’re a nazi” rhetoric of the political establishment and their far left supporters.

>>519244532
Your right wing government has imported the most shitskins in Italy's history. The American right is all for DEI as long as it protects jews, and is just as bad on crime as the left. Trump led the way on letting niggers get away with crime in 2020.
There is no long-term policy difference between the right and the left, the right is just more retarded and easier to trick.

>>519244798
>but when the government does it it's called "socialism."
It's a safety net. How i see it is that the government isn't in it for the money. It's just there to serve the people theoretically. so the goverment taking our money doesn't have the incentive like the private sector to cut costs and earn a fuckton of money at our expenses
>>519244125
Isn't denmark the world leader to making insulin? Plus canada find out about Insulin aswell. I understand you guys have a lot of medical researcher but you aren't the only one lol.

>>519241633 (OP)
What do right wingers want?
>stop touching other people's money
>stop touching other people's children
>stop pushing your propaganda in our schools
>stop degeneracy
>stop sneaking into other people's country
>stop introducing retarded fascist laws over pandemics or the weather in 100 years
>stop destroying our economies over retarded ideology
>TLDR: FUCK OFF

What do conservatives want?
>Prosperity of the state of israel


>memeflag
can you curse vishnu "european" OP?

>>519245220
>i'm not like the other rightoids, teehee
You will vote for Vivek Ramascammy and you will like it because you saw a tweet where a libtard said they didn't like him

>>519243415
>I only support rights for people like me. I oppose rights for people I don't like.

Thank goodness we have the Constitution to guarantee rights for every citizen then.

>>519241633 (OP)
We have no real conservatives left. All the republican politicians care about is sending money to isreal, tax cuts for the 1%, and enabling pedophiles.

>>519245220
Anon, i removed my european flag tons of posts ago.
>your points
I asked back already on all of them. But.
>stop touching other people's children
Orange man is a pedo and you let him work as the president? And id identification for porn is going to help? I mean >>519244015
>All of their policies inevitably lead to less liberty in the form of poverty
Republicans implementing age check identification ruins your privacy and your liberty. And that was just after a month? Or even less into the presidency. Idk what's going to happen into your freedom in the future

>>519244760
>I'm a social democrat. Not socialist. Not communist.

>>519245487
Who were the real conservatives?

>>519245516
My brain is starting to melt, i'm going full retard trying to respond to most of the non meme replies. Here's Giorgia. Did i say something wrong? I'm really a more leftie leaning centrist anon.

>>519243415
>stop disregarding laws because od your feelings

>>519241633 (OP)
The right basically wants to be left alone. Which is actually a weakness because the left pushes boundaries and instigates chaos. Think of a dog (rightoids) stuck in a corner being poked by a stick (leftoids) and the left is telling the dog "don't you bite me or you're racist!"

>>519245487
I don't see any problems since that is what the "1%" want and capitalism dictates those with the most have the greatest power.

>>519245212
the american government wasn't created to be a "safety net" and american conservatives don't see a need for it to become one. if you believe that it's something important for society to have then you are free to fund one using your own money. taking someone else's money to pay for something you want but he doesn't is tyranny.

>>519244015
>Even though the right is vocally zionist and cringey AF they don't fuck up the homeland like the left
The right did the 9/11 false flag, pissed trillions on wars for Israel, deregulated the banks and bailed them out with your money when they failed
That's done more to fuck up your country than trannies and immigrants

American conservatism is the politics of spite. It's easier to understand them if you accept that their worldview is extremely perverted into feeling of envy and vengeance.
In their eyes it's better for 50 million people to go without healthcare if it means just one person that doesn't "deserve" it won't get it.
Similarly, it's better if food banks are taken away if it means lazy people won't get food.
It's better if welfare is taken away from EVERYONE because some people abuse it.
We must punish the bad people, even if it makes life for everyone else far worse.

Oh, and worship the rich in general. They're our American gods.

>>519245788
Shut the fuck up

>>519245652
what do you call it when 2 people agree to steal money from a third? democratic socialism.

>>519241633 (OP)
>europoor vassal state
>doesn’t understand politics in countries that matter
Your politics are simple because you live off the US backed global system’s dole. We underwrite your sovereignty so that you lazy bums can sip wine under olive trees and make fancy shoes and call that an economy.
In America many people have to actually work AND pay taxes. In Europovertystan nobody cares if half of their paltry salary goes to taxes. They’d be poor with or without that money. But you have a lot of people writing tax checks to Uncle Sam for dollar amounts higher than your entire gross annual wage and these people are being sucked dry by the dregs of society who exist only to be a burden.

>>519245855
facts don't care about your feelings

>>519245827
Oh, also, welfare/food banks/etc are GOOD if it helps me personally. But they're bad for everyone else. This basic selfish hypocrisy is a key part of the conservative mind.

>>519241633 (OP)
I am a control freak and a perfectionist. I want everything perfect or attempting to become perfect. I hate ugliness in all its forms. The older I get the more intolerant I get. The destiny of humanity to become godlike in honor of our creator or to go extinct in shame.

>>519241633 (OP)
How can a slave who knows nothing articulate what he wants? He has no goals, his goals are other peoples', and so he can never tell you them. What can a man who knows nothing tell you?

>>519242112
You say that like it’s a bad thing

>>519241633 (OP)
Italy is not a right wing country at all. I didn’t bother reading the rest

>>519245924
yeah but why do you all seethe about welfare and not the MIC?

>>519245694
>>519245487
>that is what the "1%" want
That's what's happening everywhere to be honest. And everyone defend this because they think they will eventually get in this "1%". Not me, i'm fine as i am lol
>>519245780
>taking someone else's money to pay for something you want but he doesn't is tyranny.
I mean. it happens to me aswell, funding wars is not something i want to happens but you win some you lose some. And with this i mean our government is getting blasted for funding israel military tech

>>519242186
Leave the children alone, sissy, and everything will be fine.
I promise you.

>>519245827
Why don't you go live in communist China then and get your free healthcare you freak? I hear they really like cats too.

>>519246127
You have a pedophile in power

>>519241633 (OP)
In America there's more like 100m illegals for 100m poor whites
I want you to suck my dick roastie,, fuck Indians becoming anything other than shit sweepers

>>519245910
You are wrong but i don't have the strenght to make a point. Let's say you won. Sorry. It's 4 in the morning here, i'm kinda fucked up at this point and i don't know how to respond

>>519246127
>"Leave the children alone"
>*votes for child sex predator*
Cosmic irony

>>519245827
>envy and vengeance
ENVY AND VENGEANCE?
I'm sorry, but who is the party that promises people reparations, free stuff using other peoples money, and delights in any chance to "Le own christards" cause they were told that gay poopy buttsex is bad. The democratic party is a coalition of people who would be killing each other if the didn't have the unifying quality of seething at White people who know how to mind their business.

>>519242669
You’re doing a progressivism right now, anon(mendacious pseudo history)

>>519246188
>fuck Indians becoming anything other than shit sweepers
I'm italian anon. If you read in the thread i responded A LOT. i'm not trying to ragebait or doing things that indian proxies do usually

>>519246114
maybe you should grow a backbone and support people who would vote for less government given the chance then retard

>>519245014
I bet your response will be slid and completely ignored.

>>519246140
>>519246267
I'm going to defend >>519245827 >>519245983. They give more tax dollars to rich people that hoard it than back to the people. If the money that goes into Bezos/Musk tax break that they end up hoarding goes back to the people you could have some form of "FREE STUFF". even a single stimulus check

>>519246475
I'M SORRY I'll respond it, give me a minute. i'm reading the thread. sorry

>>519246267
It's in your twisted mind that you think people receiving medical help is an act of vengeance or ensuring that the poor have food to eat is an act of Satan.
This is the kind of person I was referring to, OP. Their minds are gone. They live for hatred and to take away joy from others.
Also, to you, Reparations is just campaign nonsense that Republicans use to get votes from low information (retarded) voters like gangs of Haitians eating cats or guns being taken away (for real this time). It will never go anywhere.

>>519243415
We’ll pretty soon the conservatives will push for everything you have to be taken from you because it’s better for the corporations if they treat you like a slave. You get what you vote for.

>>519241633 (OP)
what did this retard do to the wojak ;d

>>519241633 (OP)
You are retarded
European leftists take their direct orders from Washington D.C.
Everything degenerate about modern Europe is a result of American influence
The USA the epitome of leftist degeneracy
I won't elaborate because Americans and Americanized people are too retarded to read long posts, let alone understand them

>>519241633 (OP)
>What do the conservatives even want?
You're talking about several groups that fall under that umbrella
When it comes to the GOP the party and all associated apparatus, their sole purpose is to channel any and all pro-White energy into a dead end and run the clock out on Whitey
Onto the multiple parties who's message can be schizophrenic to the average American let alone a total outsider
Major party backers, their goal is greater israel, their preferred method is via sheer military might, and their secondary goal waxes and wanes between White genocide, and having just enough Whites in the US to keep it barely functional
The "conservative" politicians, their goal is to make grotesque amounts of money and not have their blackmail shown in public. Their messaging can sound schizophrenic because 2 weeks before an election many of them will parrot barely watered down White nationalist talking points, only to get elected and perpetuate the policies that result in White genocide
The talking heads, influencers, etc, now this is a big crowd, but the ones that openly call themselves "conservative" as opposed to nationalist are propped up solely to keep Whitey on the GOP plantation. Their paymaster's goal is to make sure the audiences of these gatekeepers don't turn pro-White and especially not simultaneously pro-White while being aware of and against jewish power
The "conservative" base, very fractured with several constituencies
The boomercons will regurgitate whatever Fox news or their favorite gatekeeper boomer radio host says
Mostly the rest of the GOP base is Whites that can't articulate White nationalist talking points like people on /pol can, but agree on the overwhelming majority of the basic tenets
There's only varying degrees of awareness that alternatives to their favorite gatekeeper exist
Most of them hate the actual GOP politicians, but shuffle their feet to the voting booth and vote (((R))) every 4 years because the democrats are openly anti-White

Rugged individualism is a delusion and "freedom" one of the emptiest of shibboleths to try to base a society on
The results are in and the Chinese won

>>519241633 (OP)
democrats voter base are mentally ill kamikaze and yes-men. these people all have a very short shelf-life.

I fucking hate Europoors and their complete and utter reliance on "muh healthcare." Your governments are nothing but glorified hospitals. The entire U.K. national budget is a really bad hospital system. Even the U.S. federal budget is turning into nothing but a healthcare black hole.
FUCKING EVERYTHING IS HEALTHCARE BUDGETS. FUCKING EVERYTHING.

HOW BAD DOES IT NEED TO GET BEFORE YOU REALIZE THAT THE GOVERNMENT CAN NOT DO HEALTHCARE?!

>>519245014
I have watched a video that the democrats are corporatists and i agree with it (corporation need world stability to get their invesment money). But there is no other alternatives for you guys lol. Your two party system is kind of fucked up. Isn't it better to have more parties that could make coalitions if necessary? And i think to have better lasting policies any political party should think in the long term. nowadays everything is short/medium term.

>>519241633 (OP)
>The limited free healthcare we have get used by illegals
>But just because a million illegal use it doesn't mean you have to remove it to 300 millions americans
White Americans, specifically the ones under 65, don't get shit for healthcare
You either get it through your job, or you don't have it
This is how virtually all government programs work here and why White Americans want them all scrapped
Largely they pay for all of it and don't benefit from it at all
>We have to rebuild it
>If you remove it you will never get anything done
We don't get anything done for Whites as is
That's why we're fine with burning it all down
In the paradigm of this current system there isn't a single thing the govt does that benefits Whites
>radical left there radical left that
>I get it, it's your turn to call everything the "radical left" because everything was "radical right" but isn't it pointless?
A lot of that is boomercon bugaboo stuff
If there's anyone under 50 saying that they just haven't learned to call their enemies anti-White

>>519246804
based

>>519241996
typical uneducated americuck that hasn't travelled anywhere further then outside of his stupid fucking retard town

>>519246804
I have my belief on americans but they are not needed in this thread. I fully stand for a stronger europe. stronger germany/france, you know that kind of stuff

>>519246971
To hell with flying cars, going to Mars, nuclear fusion, or even fucking anime cat waifus.
ALL MONEY GOES TO TAXES TO FUND GOVERNMENT HOSPITAL ADMINISTRATORS.

>>519246295
>progressivism is when a post disagrees with redblue slop

>>519245924
Very jeet-coded post

>>519246507
proof is required for such a baseless fucking claim. "Tax Breaks" aren't giving millionairs money. We should ALL be getting tax breaks. the solution to overtaxation, is not MORE FUCKING TAXES so that we can give Niggers free stuff from the gubberment

>>519246646
yes, both of those things are true retard. Maybe you should get a job, or not push away every family member who's there to help you. You make bad choices, your life should be saved by my wallet, you thieving jew. Also, what the fuck are you talking about nigger?? California, a state that did not participate in the trans atlantic slave trade, has founded a reparations bureau to give niggers free stuff, so i don't wanna hear that bullshit liberal gaslighting.

>>519246804
>Everything degenerate about modern Europe is a result of American influence
You spelled jewish influence wrong
>The USA the epitome of leftist degeneracy
Once again, you spelled jewish degeneracy wrong
>I won't elaborate because Americans and Americanized people are too retarded to read long posts, let alone understand them
True

>>519241633 (OP)
I want to be melted and turned into biofuel for Bezos new yacht. Libtards won’t let me.

>>519246127
No bigger kiddie diddlers than conservatives. All fucking pedos.

>>519247031
There is actually more diversity of thought among republican voters and representatives now than there is among democrats. Remember we only have the two options, there is no real, viable third party which can get any real traction in this country, and not because of support but simply because of the structure of politics. Right now, republicans are the better option because democrats became a very lockstep party which offered no room for deviation and didn’t even actually represent the diverse groups they took under their mantle. Republicans throw their voters more bones, maybe not many, but any is noticeable. The Obama and Biden administration were performative liberals to the public but their actions were no different than the Bush era neoconservative governments before them. Mind you, the modern right is not unified, but a significant portion of it is no fan of the bush era government either. Democrats currently represent the political establishment of the last 50 years, their paint job is just different than it was in the early 2000s

>>519241770
>Leave me alone
>immediately dictates to others to stop living their lives

In a nutshell this

laugh at libs

>>519241633 (OP)
you are a degenerate baby killing sodomite that couldn't protect yourself in a fight and that is the reason you are a colony of ours. You will be overtaken by Muslims as Jews make money because you have forsaken morality and reason.

>>519247031
They're half the population of the EU and they have two parties. Fucking mental really

>>519246971
>I need to have a parasitic middleman to take my money and pay the hospital

>>519241633 (OP)
>doesn't mean you have to remove it to 300 millions americans
We can't afford it. We can't afford anything the leftists want.

>>519241770
>leave me the fuck alone
you were
>leave my money the fuck alone
you had the lowest taxes ever
>stop being degenerates
that's our message to you destructive assholes
>stop supporting mental illness
what? The only Trump voter I know believes in medbeds.
>stop disregarding laws because of your feelings
what?

>>519242389
>These people happily vote to make their own lives harder
Leftist policies drive inflation which hurts worse. These people vote Republican because that's the only way the math works. They vote what's in their best interests.

>>519246317
Okay I want to kill everyone in power (KILL EVERYONE over 50) for what they did to me, kill all niggers and immigrants for taking advantage of it and then I want to enslave all women for showing themselves to be mindless slaves to whoever's in charge and distribute them among my genius allies.

>>519247629
Yeah that money could be going to Raytheon to build shit that gets btfo by Iranian rockets built with parts off Temu

>>519245924
americans are some absolute disgusting people with their constant
>youre my slave
attitude.

its good that youre being killed by niggers all day. youre disgusting people. we create more than youre shitty nigger country but you turn it all around like the disgusting loser you are.

i dont know why americans the way they are and i dont care. all you do is load up your bad karma and now youre at 35% white FALLING.

>>519247031
yurostanis don't understand that the two american parties are coalitions. do you think niggers in chimpcongo, trannies in la, and rich white democrats in boston have anything in common with each other other than hating republicans? or that the billions for israel miga republicans want the same as the taxation is theft ron paul republicans?

>>519241633 (OP)
Let me share with you a nugget of wisdom, anon.
The United States is not Italy. I know, huge shocker. We have an actual role on the world stage. We have a different political structure. We have a different language, religion, and culture.
>free healthcare
The United States is not a country. We are a union of 50 states. We are the epicenter of healthcare research & development and our private healthcare sector fronts the cost for all of it--and it ultimately comes out of American pockets. You fundamentally can not compare American systems to European systems, they are not the same, they can not work the same within the confines of our government, and they will never be implemented how they are in Europe. The United States has some of the most advanced healthcare in the world, our nation has countless specialists in niche fields. People have to travel here just to get treatment for some rare diseases and illnesses.
You have little to no idea how the healthcare system actually works here. Most Americans are able to operate just fine within it. The people who get fucked are those who are bad with money and make too much money to qualify for Medicare/Medicaid. Overall it's pretty much fine and perfectly livable, you just hear everything online where it gets over exaggerated.
My grandma has cancer and takes a rare pill for it. She effectively pays 1 million a year for it. All of this is covered by the government and her insurance.
>Italian conservative would be called a leftist
No. That's not how it works.
An Italian conservative is somebody who wants to conserve Italy, which means its culture, people, systems, and so on. An Italian conservative is not an American conservative. Both are right wing because conserving institutions and people is inherently right wing
>Indian NYC dude (...) he's not a communist
He is, lol. His policies are meant to move the needle towards communism or socialism. This is his explicitly stated goal.

youre probably these giant narc assholes because they cut your dicks off and you turn into psychopaths.

>>519248032
But that's the European model.

>>519248127
>you were
Leftists ruined so much when we just asked to be left alone.
>you had the lowest taxes ever
Leftists stole money through inflation.
>that's our message to you destructive assholes
Us being assholes is the only way you listen. It's now the basis for all future negotiations.
>what? The only Trump voter I know believes in medbeds.
Better than troons.
>>stop disregarding laws because of your feelings
Leftists ignore any law they don't like. You shouldn't have gone after the 2A.

>>519246804
Not wrong. The new American Right is searching for the right way to say this too. We already know that D.C. is a den of vipers and thieves. We know that when they subvert us and steal from us and send our wealth abroad, the People in the places they're sending it to don't benefit either.

When we say that we want our government to put America first and stop scheming and meddling all over the world, we know it's in your best interest too.

>>519247878
>>519243159
>>519242221
>>519242186
i believe what he just described loosely is white nationalism
conservatives want nationalism back
the whole party is absolutely sick of white guilt and getting nationalism back is the only way to restore it

>>519241633 (OP)
Shut the Fuck up and kill yourself, Sicilian niggerfaggot.

>>519241633 (OP)
I'm going to assume this is genuine rather than a shitpost. So buckle the fuckle up my fair haired friend.

short version

The big C Conservative movement wants america to be like it was when they were a kid. Before the world became complicated. Of course for each conservative this looks different.
The boomers want to go back to the 50s/60s
The gen-Xes want to go back to the 70s/80s
The mellenials want to go back to the 90s/00s
The zoomers want to go back to before 2020

Of course this resulted in elected the president that caused the fucking pandemic that brought an end to the pre 2020 post-cold war era. Because said president also depicts himself as the ultimate 80s business guy.

The problem is that they all have a rosey view of those eras, because they were kids. The 50s for example those "traditional families" were all sorts of psychologically fucked up, dads tended to drin, mom was on barbiturates, which would lead to the drug boom, and throwing their kids into the mulcher that was 'nam.

In the US this isn't just a small c conservatism. It is a political ideology unified by ronald regan back in the day. The only other similar group like this is the british government as defined by Thatcher.

>>519241633 (OP)
it's simple. think of conservatives as an asshole at the Olympic games who won a single race and then believe they should be given the gold medal for the entire event, for every Olympics, until the end of time.
These losers are throwing a hissy fit because they are being outcompeted and think they have some right to exist no matter what (ohhh because whitey founded America).
Except they continually prove they are asshole bigots who engage in discrimination against everyone else, they refuse to adapt to a changing world because "mah whiteman hobbies", and in general are insufferable uneducated shitbags.
And it's cake watching them become the ire of everyone when they've ran roughshed over society for decades via their prized law enforcement jobs.

>>519241633 (OP)
>What do the conservatives even want?
To be left the fuck alone by the rest of you faggots.

>>519248447
all that will ever come from you stupid useless idiots is
>youre my slave
>give me all your shit
>i am better than you (even though im completely retarded)

the only thing that muttoloids understand is to invade their country and kill them all. theyre niggers. literally.

talking to them is waste of time, this is evident you can see this.

there is no right wing in europe
there is barely a right wing left in the US
you are a faggot

they get off on this powertrip these fucking loser. americans and the rest of the angloids are the most sore losers of mankind.

in this thread were all their slaves, in the next thread they all cry because everybody in their shitholecountry is a fucking nigger.

>>519248240
Or you know what would be even better? NEITHER. FUCKING NEITHER. Stop making up bullshit false dichotomies! You're just here to support major corporations who want a giant labor subsidy by having the government take on healthcare benefits instead, and gigantic pharma corpos sucking at the government's teet. You're the lying corporatist.

>>519241633 (OP)
Depends on the conservative
>some want to only "conserve" big corpos, Israel, and forever wars
>others want to take away your access to porn while women can still divorce you and take half your shit
>others want a theocracy
>others still just want to be left alone
>others want smaller government

these people post the most nonsensical shit and NOT EVEN ONE THEM tells their own people to stop doing this. theyre all like this.

>>519241633 (OP)
Conservatives are simps and cucks.
They suck jew cock

they have trained themselves to see everyone on earth as their slaves and they proudly tell it to everyone and when you dont act as they please theyre going to bomb you to pieces.

>>519248320
Universal health care would save this country money. The insurance company middle men would be eliminated, allowing the government to negotiate directly for drug and service pricing with providers. Since everyone could get preventative care there would be a decrease in expensive restorative procedures. The estimates have all been done. And while our taxes would cover the cost we wouldn’t need personal or business policies, putting more money in our and our employers pocket every month.

>>519248600
>there is no right wing in europe
There is, it's just as small and irrelevant as it is in the US
Near every country in Europe has a real nationalist party that's hounded by their glowies, suppressed in the media, allowed to be attacked by antifa, debanked, banned off twitter, etc

this is ok for them, this is ok for all of them. theyre all like this.

American conservatism is some slapdash thing that was put together with duct tape after ww2 to prevent a nationalist or fascist movement from taking root.
It's basically general christian sentiment with a dose of free market economics. Their position was basically to shell out to big business donors while fucking over their religious base on everything they wanted. Because conservatism isn't a real belief system and the people at the top were all secretly liberals.

But after Trump, the right has pivoted strongly towards working class populism. The Democrats used to be the party of the working man, well right now that's republicans. There's a stronger nationalist feeling too, like borders are actually important rather than transactional for business.

For the 40 years after ww2 the Democrats basically had the congress on lock, and in some cases had massive supermajorities. But now that is starting to reverse. The democrats appear to the party of transgenderism, wars, and ugly brown people. Not looking great for them.

>>519241633 (OP)
the complete and utter destruction of the DNC
I wish the jan 6 protestors had burned down congress

>>519248600.

There is. Were you living under a rock this entire time?

>>519241633 (OP)
We want to be left alone.

the most disgusting people on earth are americans,
they have no heart, theyre all traumatized by circumsission, theyre dead zombies. zomby golems.

>>519248831
Not happening when there's illegals, everyone is a fat fuck, and abuses drugs

>>519248863
tldr youre my slave

>>519248914
if your "far right" party has a woman in charge it's not actually "far right"

bunch of niggers and mexican incels
get rekt by real life you useless niggers.

>>519242221
>i mean (bunch of made up bullshit cobbled together from various meme networks)
You're just another dumb fuck leftoid disingenuously asking why while being an insulting dumb ass the entire time. You don't want to know why, you just want to fulfill your urge to talk shit because that's all leftoids ever want to do. They don't want to have a discussion they want to tell us we're wrong and they're right, call us stupid, and then try to prevent us from stopping them carrying out their suicidal ideology. You are no different, you're a scale right next to the leviathan's asshole.

>>519246157
We all do, otherwise the epstein files wouldn't be sealed.
>>519246252
Tell it to your betters in govt, I'm just some asshole.

>>519249040
literally a slave

>>519248831
>Universal
Not possible. If one did exist, it would have to be in each state. The federal government can not be entrusted to reasonably oversee any program of that nature.
>government to negotiate directly
Legislation fixes that. We don't need an entirely new system. Trump is doing pretty much exactly that with TrumpRX, I think it's a step in the right direction.
>Our taxes could cover the costs
No. We spend too much already. Have you seen the debt chart, bucko?
>putting more money in our and our employers pockets
Lol, do you live in a fantasy world?

go cry mexican incels

>>519241633 (OP)
>you have to remove it to 300 millions americans
That never happened.

>>519244015
Sad part is this is a great brief description of what Democrats do and push that sucks, at least in the eyes of many people like you and I, but on the other hand the mainstream Republican Party (and now MAGA) are also corrupt as fuck. A choice between two dog-turds. But even with this, I hated Dems over COVID policies enough, and immigration, and pushing online censorship, that I voted Trump in in 2020.

>>519248738
Good description, sadly it seems still like mostly the bad conservatives get into power, not the better ones. And they even often play into the better motives to get elected, make people think they’re on their side, only to get into office and suck off Israel and Wall Street harder than ever before.

>>519249104
bla bla bla

>>519249138
sad part is that the whole world hates you piece of shit.

stupid groyper fucks youre all pieces of shits
go suck trooncocks and kiss niggerfeet.

>>519241633 (OP)
The strategy of pretending not to understand anything constantly is exhausting.
Better to remove them.

>>519249069
>They don't want to have a discussion they want to tell us we're wrong and they're right, call us stupid, and then try to prevent us from stopping them carrying out their suicidal ideology.
I just want to know why you let such retards run around as presidents. And i could mean it in any nation, we let president do whatever the fuck they want without repercussion. Just because he stand for your beliefs doesn't mean he get a pass no? And remember. I'm not american, i could guess the democrats are as corrupt as the republicans

you american slavemaster creeps love to hear yourself talk you selfrighteous mongos. you all have no friends no one wants to be near you and you selfrighteous monologues.

>>519249138
The bad ones work with dems or are just as tyrannical

>>519248831
>Universal health care would save this country money.
Impossible. Democrats lie about this as they have with Social Security and Medicaid. If Democrats want universal healthcare then they must deport all illegals, force fatties to lose weight, ban sugar, and cut healthcare costs dramatically.

>kike german talking dicks and fag shit to himself
kwab

>>519249296
Yeah, this thread was pointless, i just got out more schizophrenic than i already am. Sorry

your friend are on 4tards, thats all you got.

>>519249138
>>519249349
Also want to mention too that some Republicans are pushing for age verification and VPN bans.
Those fuckers need to be put down

>>519249323
are you genuine, OP?
it's very simple
people who are comfortable, with homes and families that are fed and educated, don't do the needful
the needful is the only way things are going to change
voting is not real
your country's satelites helped rig our 2020 elections
the same shit happens everywhere
it will have to get really bad before change happens, and the people in charge do their best to keep most people just above that level

>>519241633 (OP)
memeflag
S

bla bla bla inseet selfrighteous angloid monologue
>wow i am so awesome

fucking redundant, just like their culture of redundancy.

how can a people be so redundant but they dont see it themselves. they might all be fucking idiots.

>>519241633 (OP)
Republifats are antisocial assholes that want to get fat, drive their truggs, and enjoy public benefits without paying for them. "Take your government hands off my Medicare" and the movement against property taxes exemplify this.

>>519241633 (OP)
my god if you cant re-read your own post and see the answers you are blind or dumb
you didnt even bother to check the facts on the implications you base your questions on
you might even be retarded
sorry for the ad hominems but it is what it is
i surely hope you are larping

>>519241633 (OP)
You're not conservative enough, repeal your socialist medical system

>>519249647
We call them boomers, and what they demand may as well be socialism

>>519242055
spbp

>>519249585
>fucking redundant
you use that word but obviously dont even know what it implies
pathetic

>>519248707
>You're just here to support major corporations who want a giant labor subsidy by having the government take on healthcare benefits instead
You spend MORE on healthcare p/c than we do
You pay MORE to those big companies because you've stripped the state of the power to collective bargain
You pay MORE to those companies, from YOUR country, than we do for the SAME products Hahahaha!
some things work well socialised. Roads, rubbish collection, water, energy, education, and health care etc
You let yourselves get buggered by corpos, pay a tonne of Jewish middlemen "insurers" out the arse, all because of deluded ideological commitments and retarded propaganda

>>519249817
Meanwhile your NHS system has been broken by immigrants that your governmemt brought in and is also doubling down by imprisoninng you with digital ID

>>519249817
that works great in homogenous countries
you're getting overwhelmed with pisslamics that are going to absolutely destroy your already strained system
the USA could easily have universal healthcare if it was isolationist and actually put Americans first

>>519244466
I'm amazed at how impressively gay conservatives are. How is this any better than libshit feels comics?

>>519249916
Hahaha! Whatever retarded yank rehash of Daily Mail articles you subject on isn't reality, you stupid cunt.
I go to doctor. Costs zilch. Same day
Ive had two serious health scares in the last ten years. Ambulance, ECG, bed, treatment. All instant, cost nothing.
Got a nerve problem. Walk up the hospital at two am get a box of free codeine
The people who make money off your health industry feed you lies because they want to keep making money but whatever

>>519250228
*subsist

>>519244798
So I don't have to pay for the schooling for your fat, retarded children, right?
>B-B-B-B-BUT WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY!

>>519249817
we don't need socialism. we need a law that says if a company sells drugs or medical technology to non-americans for less than they sell it to americans they will be taxed for the difference. if bongs are getting a pill for $20 and americans are paying $200 they will have to either drop the price for americans, raise the price for bongs, or cough up $180 for every pill they sell to you. the tax can then be given back to americans as a rebate.

>>519250302
no the department of education shouldn't exist either
>he thought this was a gotcha

>>519248580
The entire point of what I said is that Americans are opposing this retard government doing those things too, retard.

>>519249707
I'm dumb and retarded, my brain has been fried by social media. Sorry anon

No they wouldn’t. This is Eurocuck headcanon.

>>519247731
>We should have no taxes! And everyone can eat candy all day! And no more naps! Civic responsibiwity is GAAAAAAY!
You're a fucking retarded child and should be thrown down a well like one.

>>519241633 (OP)
I'm not a conservative.
I want all of the leftists and affirmative action subhumans to starve to death, after they destroy businesses, the economy and the USA. I want to watch them really suffer, as they have caused me and other white men to suffer. I want to see them cry out in pain everyday as these leftist and affirmative action subhumans brutalize each other. I want to see them broken: I want to see then physically, mentally, and spiritually broken... until they finally give up on life and kill themselves. That is what they have done to tens of millions of white men. That is what they want to do to me and every white man.
BTW, I want to also see you lefty scum in Europe destroy yourselves and suffer, then die. The USA should stop bailing out you useless leftist scum.
Get the fuck out of here... back to plebbit, asshole. Oh and be sure to kill yourself too.

>>519241633 (OP)
>i'm left
Why do you love fags, niggers and hate your people that much?

>>519250327
Billionaire Defence Squadron: Assemble
Hahaha.
You are the most zogged, propagandised people in the world
We won't pay more and they'll keep selling because no business throws away profit
The prices are high because you're getting scammed a

Christian evangelical nationalists have overtaken the republican party

schizo death cult. and then add in prosperity gospel bullshit.

that pretty much sums up the modern right wing in USA

>>519241633 (OP)
In the US, they know, as everyone with a brain does, that the American middle-class was an aberration -- a product of America holding a monopoly on industry post-WW2. The natural state of affairs is 1% of people basically having everything and nearly everyone else living in poverty. They don't want people to get in the way of that occurring, so they support all manner of policy that prevents people from interfering:
>you won't vote unless they want you to
>you will hate brown people and kill them for their resources
>due process is gay
>you will pay tariffs to subsidize chosen industries/ companies
>too many of you being too educated is probably dangerous
>you will be scared of criminals, terrorists, and ufos, because you're then easier to control
>tracking and disappearing people is super based

Liberals basically do the same thing but are better at framing it as some sort of benevolence. "We're saving the planet," with your carbon taxes. Never mind that we all fly around in private jets.

I'm obviously talking about the people in power. What the typical conservative or liberal pleb wants is completely irrelevant.

>>519245827
You missed the part about them living off of fake disability. If they are doing in, logically so is everyone else.

>>519242186
being a degenerate ruins society and therefor does not leave anyone the fuck alone. now fuck off, scum.

I want to thanks everyone for your answer, i have learned a bit more about you USA americans but not much. i thanks everyone and their insults but i'm too tired to interact with the thread as my last responses where kind of retarded takes. Goodnight everyone. And long live Europe

>>519251012
Sadly Europe exists to be a playground for wealthy Chinese tourists.

>>519242186
You'll be left alone so llng your "being left alone" isn't actually "turn a blind eye to the people I won't leave alone" and ignoring criminal activity. We are not the same.

>>519246804
SOCIALLY left.
On social issues.
The Woke Identity Politics Social Justice crap is just that, crap. Economically they are “right-wing”, pro-Banks, big Corpos, Finance, Wall Street, the Military-Industrial Complex and increasingly strengthening (or letting loose) Intelligence/Law-Enforcement agencies, including big ones like DHS, ATF, IRS, FBI, etc.
The “protect trans kids” crap, and also pro-mass-migration into and only into the West, and White Guilt crap, is also part of their corrupt bullshit megalomaniacal Kalergi Plan, but also enriching the 1% more with masses of cheap labor they can abuse in the job market.

The “Woke” crap has been used as a cudgel against the working and middle classes, making some people understandably angry at it, but the US establishment has still been strongly anti-communist, disempowering labor, for privatization, and basically impoverishing ever more and more of the populace while they profit off our backs.

Although they might be a little gay, Euros have a point when they say, “There’s hardly a (real) left in mainstream American politics,” they’re talking about how Dems are corporatist shills too when it comes to key economical issues & workers’ rights.

we wanna curb-stomp your leftist ass. in BF6 of course.

>>519241633 (OP)
>we are a right wing country
No. You aren't. Right wing involves the presence of a monarchy and support of his power. Right wing is by definition being a monarchist. You haven't had a monarchy since Umberto abdicated and no one is pushing for a monarchy. Moreover, conservatives in the US are generally not monarchists hence not right wing. There has never been a large right wing movement in the US since the end of the revolution when Tories in the US stopped being Tories or left to live in territory still within the empire.
> just because a million illegal use it doesn't mean you have to remove it to 300 millions americans
The United States is supposed to be a tight confederation of individual states. Unfortunately we are not living under US law but under admiralty law revealed by the use of the war time flag instead of the civil peace time flag. The federal government isn't even supposed to be involved in these issues. That is an issue that should be relegated to the state governments.

There is no such thing as an American and there never was.
>If you remove it you will never get anything done.
If anyone wants it, they should appeal the government of their state.
>call everything the "radical left"
Left wing is by definition anti-monarchism. It is a gaggle of varying ideologies that differ on quite a few things.
>"radical left"
By definition these are all Marxists. Marxists promote all of the following:
>central banking
>welfare states
>universal healthcare
>nationalization of industry
>internationalism
>destroying monarchies
>imposing atheism
>rounding up anyone who has ever owned a business or employed a single person to do anything for them under the charge of being "bourgeoisie" and then killing them
>installing a dictatorship by the communist party
i.e. what was done in the soviet union, north korea, etc.

>"radical right"
As stated before there is almost no radical right in most western countries. Yet in the US democrat party there is a growing wing of radical left, i.e. Marxists. In fact the democrat party has been shifting consistently towards that while the also left wing republican party is tending to try to maintain its liberal republic principals. The republican party is a left wing party working against a more left wing party. Your government being a republican form of government with few if any pro-monarchy parties are also ran by left wing political parties.

>>519249233
Shut the fuck up you stupid shit-eating kraut, I didn’t do jackshit to you. I’m not a MAGA cultist either, just also hated Dems.

>>519249349
That’s why it’s called the Uniparty. Ironically you could also put this the other way around, the bad yet more powerful Dems are also basically in with the shitty Neocon/Republican wing. Obama being Bush 2.0 in key respects, many Dems supporting the Iraq and Afghanistan debacles, and then also being in on the Neocon-like provocations of Russia and jerkoff fests over Ukraine, as a devoted wing of chickenhawk Republicans also are. Remember Kamala fucking Harris getting an endorsement from Dick Cheney? Cheney going, “Yeah, this crazy Trump guy’s too far even for ME! I support Kamala!” Thinking that’d get em votes lol

But >>519249465
Fuck em all yeah they’re pieces of shit.

>>519241633 (OP)
The NPC Lefties live in such a bubble they think 98% of Americans are rightwing conservatives at this point.
>Even the normal people understood Trump was a better choice than Kamala. Has nothing to do with being conservative, it has everything to do with preventing more Left Wing psychosis from taking hold.

>>519241633 (OP)
Fuck off and KYS troon.

>>519242221
>define mental illness, being gay/trans is not.
>They just use their sexuality as a way to mask their other issues
You are a mentally ill faggots. KYS.

>>519241633 (OP)
you fucking europeans can't even comprehend a system where the government isn't involved in literally aspect of your life.
you are the biggest fucking cucks on earth I hate you all so goddamn much

>>519241633 (OP)
You’re a giga homo >>519247229
Fuck your faggot country limey cuck

>>519241633 (OP)
>What do the conservatives even want?
>(i'm left tho)
go ask your own countrymen (paysanos)
faggot. what is wrong with you? mind your own business

>>519252394
Bold of you to assume that it isn't happening here.
The only reason why it hasn't gotten to Euro levels of bad is solely because we have guns

>>519242221
>>stop supporting mental illness
>define mental illness, being gay/trans is not
Stopped reading there. Not even good b&
On the slim chance it's not b&, this is why people think you're retarded and nothing you say can ever be taken seriously

>>519245014
You completely missed the point with socialized healthcare. You're conveniently leaving out the fact that (((health insurance))), (((pharmaceuticals))), (((hospital administration))), (((medical device companies))), and many more entities absolutely wrecked the ACA; particularly (((insurance))) hence the "fine" for not having healthcare coverage. The American health insurance system is the largest shabbos goyim litmus test for a ton of people of being the best goys flexing their "HMO" or "PPO" insurance but with no guarantee (((Blue Cross))) or (((United Healthcare))) covering treatment. Health insurance has set the tone of (((home owners insurance companies))) and many other insurance companies to deny, deny, deny, and if you're not the best goy aka making them pony up their "guarantee" they drop you like a hot potato/raise your rates.

We spend the most out of the whole western world on healthcare but seem to not master a hybrid system of private insurance/public medicaid for all like some European nations have. A hybrid model would work best for America because it would guarantee cletus in bumfuck Nebraska can go to ER in his small town/rural hospital with public medicaid and wall street financiers can go private to any NYC research medical center. Your other points you made about the left not talking about cost of living makes no sense either... "the radical left" like Bernie Sanders have been screaming from the rooftop about out of control cost of living, groceries, utilities, consolidation of corporate power, etc... The corporate power consolidation cannot be ignored at all anon. It is not free market "capitalism" when it is becoming a massive monopoly of price fixing (see: landlord rent algorithm software) and unquenchable growth from retard shareholders. The GOP and their followers are the biggest shabbos best goyim and show your nose.

>>519249729
How are you going to pay for those government slaves? What about their cross training in necessary trades? You can't print forever.

>>519252394
Horrifying. There's no incentive to invent and improve on the bureaucracy.

Golem nation that exists to serve Jews

Everything make sense if you figure this out

>>519241633 (OP)
You are not well informed.
I'm just letting you know.
I'm not going to go into details because I'm phoneposting.
Don't get offended. It's not meant to offend.

>>519241633 (OP)
bulldoze the vatican
destroy the brancaccio global crime syndicate

>>519241770
fpbp

QRD on how much yuroseethe happened above? is it a lot? did they talk about how much they love cheese and wine? i bet.

>>519241633 (OP)
At this point it’s all spite.

>>519241633 (OP)
>hurr durr what do you want
For all europeans to fuck off and stay out of our business. Be a good vassal state and shut the fuck up.

>>519255560
…wut?

>>519241633 (OP)
Why do you care? You’re not American.

>>519241633 (OP)
I didn't read any of your post, but your status as an "outsider" and flaggot render any opinion you may have as invalid and worthless.
Shove it up your ass, and seethe more.

>>519241633 (OP)
So in other words you’re a socialist/communist?

FYI I know meloni is considered right wing but if I were president of the USA and saw Italy with all its social programs I would lead a regime change to liberate you from socialism

>>519255986
Why do you care? If you’re American you’ll be rich and powerful no matter what happens politically, you’re the hegemony

>>519241633 (OP)
>an
Fuck off nigger

>>519241633 (OP)
How many niggers do you have to deal with on a daily basis? Enough encounters with brownoids will radically shift your perspective.

>>519250727
The middle class was created by Henry Ford arbitrarily decising to pay his workers more. Because he genuinely cared about them and wanted the. to have better lives. He was even getting involved in their home lives and trying to prevent them from drinking, engaging in bad habits, getting divorced...etc
(Literal fascist btw)

>>519256855
I’m a literal fascist and even I think that’s disgusting and makes me understand why we need government regulations to stop abusive employers.

That said he didn’t arbitrarily pay them more, he paid them more to prevent turnover and to attract the hardest workers

>>519243415
>I only support rights for people like me. I oppose rights for people I don't like.
Probably not going to be a winning strategy in a country where white people are rapidly becoming a minority.

>>519256847
Italy is full of niggers. They're arriving by the boatload. That still doesn't mean they're stupid enough to stand up and demand an end to health care for their own community.

>>519256855
What a shame that the company he created is everything he stood against
Just like Disney

>>519257208
Good, Ford was an absolute evil scumbag.

Did you not read about what he did?

>>519256983
No he unironically cared about them. He thought they should be paid more. He saw his role as an elite member of society as guiding and leading fellow members of his society.

>>519241770
>leave me the fuck alone
>stop being degenerates
Wait a minute, how come YOU get to be left alone but the degenerates don't?

>>519257319
That’s like the exact opposite of my dad.

He wants to pay his employees as low as possible, and he doesn’t care about their lives outside of if they can provide economic value to the business. He wouldn’t even care if they died of drug overdoses assuming he could find a replacement with relative ease. It’s construction and he is pretty open about his views to me.

>>519257260
He published the Dearborn Independent, a magazine soley dedicated to slandering jews as moneygrubbing filthmongers who spread degeneracy and communism. He heavily promoted the Protocols of Zion

>>519241633 (OP)
CIA nigger detected

Is Tom Braden your hero?

Fuck CIA commie niggers

>>519241633 (OP)
>What do the conservatives even want?
American to conquer the rest of the world and put you all into the most brutal form of slavery and consign your pathetic history, culture and language into the dustbin of history then use your bones to build monuments to our greatness.

>>519242389
I'm not exactly poor but I struggle to see how the fuck Democrat policies supposedly help me. Take the "Affordable" Care Act for example. Healthcare premiums have skyrocketed since it was implemented. As far as I can tell Dem policies are beneficial for the mega rich and the bottom barrel of society. Working professionals, the middle class, and small business owners get fucked. They'll rape a family diner out of existence with taxes but let illegal immigrants sell tacos from a food stand for cash in the middle of LA.

>>519242112
There's literally nothing wrong with tribalism. A country is not it's arbitray borders but rather a gestalt of it's peoples, customs, laws, traditions, and morals. All of those things are the provinces of man so when a people relocates they bring their country with them and a nation divided in a such a way can not stand. Our very ability to build civilizations is due to our nature as communal animals and the social dynamics inherent therein. You can't stamp out or supress tribalism. Tribalism is community and is such an innate part of our psychology that even newborns and feral children with no human contact display it. It is culture, it is nation, it is family, it is the wellspring of ALL art, cooperation, progress, and civilization.

>>519257167
>Probably not going to be a winning strategy in a country where white people are rapidly becoming a minority.

There is no winning strategy in a minority white country. It literally doesn't matter how smart you leftoids think your policies are or how morally correct. The brownoids will not appreciate your effort. They will do less and demand more and more until it's all gone. The only winning strategy for America is mass deportations.

>>519241633 (OP)
>we are a right wing country
don't listen to OP he's a massive faggot libtard.
our country redistributes taxes like commies and 40% of our earnings goes to taxes alone, the same one which goes to funding old boomers and migrants.

>>519241633 (OP)
>What do the conservatives even want?
I don't think most of them really understand what they want, they're a group of drones parroting logic and values from a time period that a lot of them didn't live in. My understanding of the modern neocon/MIGA goal is just a wishlist of vagueries that essentially boil down to "I want to be completely free of consequences and criticism, but nobody else should be." So, classic boomer narcissism for the big tech era. For now, they agree with their like-minded friends and try their best to stay in their echo chambers, but they'll eat each other alive over something given enough time. Everything is unfalsifiable with them, any argument or criticism is to be handwaved by accusations of being a liberal or a communist/leftist, anything that isn't a reinforcement is to be disregarded.

>>519257620
Mega rich are ones who get fucked

>>519257883
i appreciate your commitment to this "Opposite Day" bit you've got going, anon

>>519242221
Being gay and trans is a mental illness if you can't look at a faggot and a troon and not see something wrong then you need to kill yourself you lost the plot of humanity.

>>519257883
No they fucking aren't lmao. They pass the costs onto the plebs and invest less, that's it.

>>519248600
>there is barely a right wing in USA

2/10 bait

>>519258139
The plebs just whine for the govenrment to take from the mega rich and give to them.

And if the government doesn’t do that the plebs just adjust their wages upwards to reflect cost of living changed

>>519258016
Troon yes but not gay

>>519241633 (OP)
Conservatives don’t want the left to come and ruin their lives mostly. There is a quite a few nut jobs though. Idiots who want to regulate internet for example, or ban antisemitism. It’s stupid. America was discovered and colonized to become a cattle farm for Europeans but worked out somehow better. Life sucks but we don’t have the kind of wars you have got over there. It’s true that our social safety net sucks but it can’t be improved because we spend so much on defense. In reality that’s just an excuse to go full isolationist until something bad happens like another 9/11. And then we have to get mobilized again as a society, to fight some other bullshit war. I think terrorists won the war on terror. We are so terrified of fighting we have become a cowardly nation. That’s what conservatives really are. They are afraid of losing power because they realize the poor gen Z and millennials want freebies.

>>519241633 (OP)
I want the 90s back.

>>519258441
Me too. The 1790's.

>>519241633 (OP)
>But just because a million illegal use it
Illegals don't have access to federal programs. If they get assistance it comes the individual state they reside in which not all offer.

>>519241633 (OP)
Politics is for children here in the States. The behavior you're witnessing right now is the "I'm not touching you!" shithead stratagem. Both parties are looking for a fight but they can't be the one to initiate or the other gets to run and tell on them.

They share all their toys and are stuck in the same house forever. It'll never get better here.

>>519257176
You have no fucking idea how money works in America nor do you have any clue how Healthcare works here. You want to tell the she boons that work in medical billing they're out of a job? Be my guest lol.
"Japanese faggot gets ripped to shreds in the streets, more at 11."

>>519257823
"What is projection?"

In 1947 the AXIS powers took control of the EU and began attacking the populations of the Allied Nations with fake medical science to reduce IQ, they reduced Iodine intake, increased the poisoning with fluoride and toxins in food.
In 1965 the Vaccine Program began mass murdering non Roman Catholic Christians and all under the control of the Vatican.

>>519248821
No, retard we're reminding you that if we leave NATO, Russia is now soley your problem. Then, all your fruity welfare will go to the military if you don't want to be conquered you ungrateful monkey.

>>519259300
Actually money making is for children

>>519241633 (OP)
>we are a right wing country mostly

>>519258923
The feds literally reimburse Commiefornia for Medical that they give to illegals

>>519242221
>being gay/trans is not
i read everything you typed up to this point. you should kill yourself irl.

>>519241633 (OP)
jewtopia

>>519241902
go pwn them then. you need daddy jews to give you permission?

>>519241633 (OP)
Nigger

>>519242588
flowing to jews. israel could disappear off the face of the earth and nothing would change. its a rothschild side-project. global economy is still about private banks lending governments its money at interest, with jews being the private investors who get paid for doing nothing.
dont like it? shame a christcuck for making it possible
dont like women vooting even though vooting has been obsolete since electronic tabulation? shame a christcuck for making it possible

boomers are forever, but christcucks never die