Thread 519242734

Are the Table Talks not legitimately the words of Adolf Hitler?

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>>519242734 (OP)
>>519242946
No, they're not. Some of them have no source. The book was authored by one of the supporters who took part in the Hitler diary scam, so he need to quote his work.

>>519242734 (OP)
It's one of the most 50/50 things I can possibly think of....zero concrete evidence that they are or are not real.

Probably best to take them with a bucket of salt and mostly just consider Mein Kampf, the second unfinished book, and his speeches/ official correspondence's as the only definitive things.

Their is also the accounts of all his high level longtimer gov friends and August kubzieck

>>519242734 (OP)
Thanks for posting my AI slop, OP.

There's a lot of evidence they're fake. But if your Kike opponent insists they're real, you can cite the passage that says Hitler rejects Evolution and the Kike's mind will implode.

>>519242734 (OP)
The problem with authenticity checks behind the table talks is that it is being matched with like 4-5 similar sources and they match up just fine.
Nobody seem to know where all the doubt is coming from, other than fringe christian "identitarians" who still refuse to admit that he wasnt personally christian.

they are basically the one and the same group spamming the board with:
#1 Theyre all americans, since europeans arent christian.
#2 Nordic israelism (wants to become the real jews)
#3 Hitler is christian (evidence contradicts once hitler took office
#4 flat earth

> so, what comes to mind?

the war in ukraine
the war in israel
on the AIPAC payroll
Public sentiment and voter sympathy for a supposed christian/judaic prophecy of Trump collaborating with israel.

Hitler's mistake was not going hard enough on the public sentiment, even if he hosted a lot of events in pagan rituals and traditions,
there just wasnt enough to create a new vision for the rest of europe.

this is also mandatory to boycott american big finance, with christianity? we're powerless since theyre jewish and they are the source of christianity.

>>519243096
Well shit doesn't that mean then that the wikipedia article on Hitler's religious outlook is probably distorted by unreliable sources then?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler

Martin Bormann on Hitler's religious beliefs

Martin Bormann, who was serving as Hitler's private secretary, persuaded Hitler to allow a team of specially picked officers to record in shorthand his private conversations for posterity.[60] Between 1941 and 1944, Hitler's words were recorded in transcripts now known as Hitler's Table Talk.[61] The transcripts concern not only Hitler's views on war and foreign affairs, but also his characteristic attitudes on religion, culture, philosophy, personal aspirations, and his feelings towards his enemies and friends.[62] Speer noted in his memoirs that Bormann relished recording any harsh pronouncements made by Hitler against the church: "there was hardly anything he wrote down more eagerly than deprecating comments on the church".[55] Within the transcripts, Hitler speaks of Christianity as "absurdity" and "humbug" founded on "lies" with which he could "never come personally to terms."[63]

>>519243774
Man, you are one dumb faggot.

>>519243860
You forgot to substantiate a counter-argument, you dont have a say in any matter of intelligence.

>>519243209
You consider Zweites Buch valid?

>>519243969
Stfu kike

>>519244034
memeflag calling other people kike, like pottery
so brown that i can smell your bad hygiene through the internet.
here's my comment once youre capable of substantiating a fucking arugment like a white person.
>>519243774

>>519244178
Stfu kike

>>519243774
Table Talks he says promoting Wotanism would have been a mistake that it must have died for good reasons.

The Table Talks appear to be inline with that "The Enigma of Hitler" article in describing Hitler's character and how well versed he was in everything and also in line with his actions while in power.

>>519244199
oh yes, its me? yeshua bin josef, shalom!

>>519244199
Do you have links to anything other than that one picture you posted discussing the authenticity of the table talks?

>>519244434
Post dead IDF if you want to be taken seriously, kike

>>519244365
And? he was a fucking vegan on various drugs just to keep his fucking gut biome in check while still supplementing daily dosages of uppers to keep himself looking sharp.
probably stank like crazy too, he failed and we know why.

christianity doesnt work and didnt accelerate the synthesis with other european nations to overpower bank barons through public sentiment.

>>519244490
I made that picture from one of the points brought up in Hitler Redux. The entire book is about the authenticity of Table Talk.

>>519244504
i dont have pictures of jews but here goes

fuck christianity
fuck judaism
fuck the torah

now you

>>519244653
Post dead IDF if you want to be taken seriously, kikefaggot

>>519244490
did you even read what i said about how to run authenticity checks?

>>519244637
That book says it's authentic though.

>>519244490
Kys turkroach.

>>519244706
why the fuck would i save pictures of dead soldiers, you retarded fucking christian?

>>519244774
Kys kikefaggot

>>519244582
My point being that he seemed to be into science and philosophy and the pursuit of truth over mere fabrication of myths which were for the stupid masses only. Like on a personal level I think he sought after truth while he reserved mythology for the dumb masses.

>>519244637
https://annas-archive.org/md5/240e99c0f9e36563dde5154237ed104c

Is this the book?

>>519244926
Looks like it

>>519243774
Do not fall for glownigger divide & conquer tactics.

Christianity is the definition of "right wing" political ideology:
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left%E2%80%93right_political_spectrum#Origins_in_the_French_Revolution

Christianity has always been a racist religion:
>"Oh, race of Franks, race from across the mountains, race chosen and beloved [...]"
>"the kingdom of the Persians, an accursed race, a race utterly alienated from God [...]"
- https://www2.cbn.com/article/church/pope-urban-iis-speech-calling-first-crusade

The racist and anti-semitic Confederates have always been Christian.
The National Socialists used the Celtic cross and gave out iron cross medals for bravery. The white term for "swastika" is hakenkreuz, meaning hooked cross.
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hakenkreuzbanner

Here's a growing list of Christian political commentators who are racist and anti-semitic:
- https://rentry.org/Deus_Vult
Feel free to reply to this post with others.

Educate boomers irl. If you don't preach to them, the anti-Christian kikes will:
- https://news.antiwar.com/2025/10/06/israel-to-spend-up-to-4-1-million-in-propaganda-campaign-targeting-american-christians/
israeli nationalism ("zionism") is a heresy:
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKlT-hhZXoM&t=658s
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odNoExd8a5U
The "holocaust" (burnt offering) is a lie made up by kikes, both soviet and freemason:
- https://rumble.com/c/ScriptureandTraditionFrJM/videos
Boycott all israeli products:
- https://bdsmovement.net/Guide-to-BDS-Boycott

Common glownigger talking points:
>"jesus is a kike"
The word "kike" comes from the word "kikel", which means circle. The kikes hate the cross so much, they would sign documents with a circle, hence the nickname.
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plus_and_minus_signs#Alternative_plus_sign
>"off topic"
Reminder the pope is the monarch of a country. In fact in many european (white) nations there is no separation between church and state.

>>519244836
thats a very odinic description, whats your point?
like seriously, do you even understand anything at all about european divinity?
we're fucking coming from war gods, the most brutal ancestry ever lived on the planet.

theyre not here to save you or redeem your sins for you to sit on a cloud? wake the fuck up.
our gods doesnt ask for you to worship them, theyre there for understanding.
the ones that was worshipped the most was Tyr and tor as a medium unbound power.

you just sit there in your comfy seat and worry about not having sex, you dysgenic fuck.

>>519244637
I'm going to read the book.

>>519245039
Cringe kike lmao

>>519245061
VK Clark has a book on Table Talk too, but her books are very hard to find

>>519244765
I'm reading everything in the thread I just take forever to get through threads because of reading and checking everything.

"The problem with authenticity checks behind the table talks is that it is being matched with like 4-5 similar sources and they match up just fine.
Nobody seem to know where all the doubt is coming from, other than fringe christian "identitarians" who still refuse to admit that he wasnt personally christian."

>>519244812
ik ben een nederlander, niet een neger!

>>519245039
>thats a very odinic description, whats your point?

Was it not clear from what I posted?

>theyre not here to save you or redeem your sins for you to sit on a cloud? wake the fuck up.

Do you take me for a christcuck?

>you just sit there in your comfy seat and worry about not having sex, you dysgenic fuck.

...what is your problem why are you making all these stupid assumptions about me?

It seems to me that nothing would be more foolish than to re-establish the worship of Wotan. Our old mythology ceased to be viable when Christianity implanted itself. Nothing dies unless it is moribund.
Adolf Hitler
Would Be, Worship, Christianity
Adolf Hitler (1953). “Table talk, 1941-1944”

>>519244985
Christcucks are so retarded they fall for propaganda from a century ago. Even with the power of hindsight, they cannot parse out truth from lies, I don't know if this is a testament to how good Nazi propaganda was or how stupid christcucks are.

>>519245804
I'm going to need to read the book provided in order to have a better informed opinion on this but me personally the Table Talks have always looked to me to be in line with Hitler's actual actions in both promoting German folklore and forcing all the churches to embrace positive Christianity and teaching the Hitler Youth something else entirely that wasn't Christianity.

>>519245650
what do you not understand about war and power?
do you have any idea why they put so much effort into art?

this is why SS Hexen was hellbent on turning every stone on this question alone, christianity is incompatible with european power.
Ther's absolutely no unity in universalism & theres nothing to unify under a foreign god, this should be simple to anyone to understand.

christianity is the gatekeeper, always has been.

>>519243998
Why wouldn't you ?. I haven't heard any legitimate argument to say it is not valid.

Although I've never read the 2nd myself, I have read Mein Kampf and the book by August though.

It's a scam to disconnect hitler from christianity because the target of the kike conspiracy is christ

>>519248726
how do you make sense of that?

>>519248951
talmudic judaism evolved in contrast to christianity and defines itself as such. rome = chrisitanity = the white race in their view. they hate christ because christ destroys their religion on their own terms. christ has always been the target and attacking whites is secondary to that. christ fulfills all prophecies completely killing judaism, ending their pharisee religion. this is why they hate christ and traditional christianity. the only way to kill it is through subversion (scofield bible, vatican 2 etc). christianity is the only thing that kills the jew, and so that is what they seek to destroy. the noahide laws which they seek to implement before the year 2240 (end of the 6th day of creation) prohibit idol worship which means banning the worship of christ as god. they are okay with everything else, as everything else can come under their control.

hitler saw himself as a catholic and openly said so and said so in private letters constantly. he even painted paintings of mary and christ. focusing on the nationality was his strategy since germany was divided religiously between lutheranism and catholicism. paganism etc he considered a dumb larp and mocked those types in the national socialist circles. the only evidence hitler was anti christian comes from tables talks and goebbels diaries both of which have been shown to be heavily doctored fakes, post war creations.

if you believe hitler is anti christian, for which there's no evidence for, then you must believe hitler is a liar. there's lots of videos on bitchutes doing deep dives into this, maybe i'll post some

>>519249946
Hitler was anti-Catholic. This is confirmed by the pope himself.

>>519250100
thanks for your low effort ideological reply. having conflict with the vatican doesnt exclude one from considering themselves a follower of the catholicism. you're a low info retard

"I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so." - Adolf Hitler, to General Gerhard Engel, 1941

>>519249946
Hitler said to a Catholic Germany that he was Catholic because he had not formulated fully or implemented Positive Christianity yet... But Hitler was certainly a Positive Christian once he had established a name for this theory of Christianity that he already lived by.

He had always believed in the Creator, God, Christ but he no "sect" like Catholic or Orthodox until he made a "sect" out of his own Christian beliefs.

>>519250556
germany wasnt catholic, it was devided religiously and more lutheran, not catholic. also the quote is in a private letter. focusing on religion isnt something hitler did in public because it was divisive in germany at that time. positive christianity was a ploy to not trigger the divisiveness, much like people today will say they are 'non-denominational' christians.

but none of this changes the fact of how hitler viewed himself, which was as a catholic

>>519250317
If the Pope says you're not a Catholic, you're not Catholic, dipshit.

>>519251193
that's not the catholic view, sorry bro, you're too low info on this. smoke more weed you dumb idiot

>>519251280
You are a base animal.

>>519251468
you think the religion depends on what the pope says. you're an idiot. the pope isnt a rabbi, the teaching of catholicism remains the same regardless of what any human says. Maybe as a kike you dont comprehend that since you're all buck broken by judaism. this is the point of christianity you stupid kike. reality is reality no matter what anyone says. fuck yourself, jew

>>519251866
Read Vatican 1, stupid bitch

>>519250763
Yes I know they had many sects after all the shit that went down in the middle ages and Renaissance eras, but Positive Christianity was hitlers answer to a Strong Catholic church that truly fit European people and the historic strength they had show for Christ against the Jew and evil overall.

He saw the Catholic church as week and in need of a revamp it was a shadow of the church and it's beliefs/steadfastness of medieval times.

Given time a synchronization of Positive Christianity and the Catholic church would have happened because the entirety of Continental Europe was to be reformed into a New germanic rome(of the Christian variety).

>>519252052
What you say is true, but none of that changes the fact of how hitler viewed himself, which was as a catholic. there has been a whole cottage industry painting hitler as an occultist, a pagan, a one testicle meth addicted homosexual etc etc etc. none of that is true and table talks plays into those post war lies

>>519252378
"If the Pope says you're not Catholic, you're not Catholic"

Only a truly subhuman, bad faith animal looking for confirmation bias would disagree with that statement. It's pathetic.

>>519252731
christianity isnt judaism, sorry jew. truth is truth irregardless of what any human says, even your trans-semite rabbi

>>519252731
also, hitler was never excommunicated, the pope never said hitler wasnt christian, and even if he did it would have to be under special circumstances. you're very low IQ which is why i stopped responding to you. learn more

>>519242734 (OP)
Yes they are
Christcucks pretend they're not

>>519253065
>>519253196
You're a pathetic faggot. Probably one of Nick Fagtes' little animals that run around shilling Catholicism. Lmao.

>>519253304
kike, denounce the talmud

>>519254242
why not the torah? thats jewish too, just like the bible.

>>519253304
lying kike

>>519254633
Liar

>>519255043
look at this AIPAC shill bot, doesnt even read what its replying to.

>>519254633
the NT interprets the torah as being fulfilled, meaning, it's 613 derived pharisee laws, are no longer valid. that's what christianity does. the story is over. it's done. do you see?

>>519255159
>didn't denounce the talmud

>>519255199
The bible is based on the Torah, retard.
jewish as the bible as yeshua bin josef is jewish.

>>519255213
i denounce the talmud & the torah.

your turn.

>>519255254
his name is jesus, not the yiddish curse word you posted

>Yimakh shemo (Hebrew: יִמַּח שְׁמוֹ, romanized: yīmmaḥ šəmō, lit.'may his name be erased') is a Hebrew curse placed after the name of particular enemies of the Jewish people. A variant is yimakh shemo v'zikhro (Hebrew: יִמַּח שְׁמוֹ וְזִכְרוֹ, romanized: yīmmaḥ šəmō vəzīḵrō, lit.'may his name and his memory be erased'). Yimakh shemo is one of the strongest curses in the Hebrew language.
>The epithet may be abbreviated as "Y. S." in some English texts. In Hebrew the abbreviation is (יש"ו) y-sh"u. The curse connects with examples of erasure of names in other cultures. It has been called "the classic Jewish curse".

but wait

> In references to Jesus in the Talmud, however, where the name occurs, it is rendered Yeshu, which is a name reserved in Aramaic and Hebrew literature from the early medieval period until today, solely for Jesus, not for other Joshuas.
>
>The name Yeshu is unknown in archeological sources and inscriptions, except for one ossuary found in Israel which has an inscription where someone has started to write first "Yeshu.." and then written "Yeshuaʿ bar Yehosef" beneath it. There are 24 other ossuaries to various Yeshuas and Yehoshuas. None of the others have Yeshu. All other "Joshuas" in the Talmud, rabbinical writings, modern Hebrew, are always Yeshua or Yehoshua. There are no undisputed examples of any Aramaic or Hebrew text where Yeshu refers to anyone else than Jesus.
>
>Some of rabbinical sources comment on the reasons for the missing ʿayn from Yeshu, as opposed to the Hebrew Bible Yeshuaʿ and Yehoshuaʿ. Leon Modena argues that it was Jesus himself who made his disciples remove the ʿayn, and that therefore they cannot now restore it.

>>519242734 (OP)
Consensus among contemporary NatSocs is that the table talks are fake. Who knows.

>>519255291
nice try but denouncing the torah nullifies the denouncement of the talmud

>>519255348
i denounce the bible
i denounce the torah
i denounce the talmud
i denounce the talmud again

your turn, shill bot.

>>519255254
your view is exactly the same as the view of the rabbis, which isn't the christian view, nor how europeans understood it for 1900 years
good job, idiot

>>519255411
>did it again
No kike, torah = new testament = jesus is the messiah who died for our sins. By denouncing the torah you are denouncing jesus which the talmud says and promotes.

>>519255430
europeans never adopted the bible, persecutions persisted until the 18th century and voluntary literacy gave birth to independent thought, it was already too late for christianity by then.

nobody fucking cared to pay any attention to the fucking bible, retard.
textbook example of american education, you only know what happened during the little time on that island of coca cola.

>>519255495
look at this shill bot, he cant denounce the jewish sources even after asking him twice.

>>519255544
>cross on flag
you're a clown

>>519255640
of course, we coined the cross over 4000 years before christianity was a thought.
We are the unconquered sun.

>>519255571
>jewish

>>519255729
> We are the unconquered sun.

>>519249946
>christ has always been the target and attacking whites is secondary to that
Absolute, complete, total and utter shit.

>>519255729
>>519255818
you jews should just stick to comedy

>>519255818
The blood of yeshua and yahweh, i sacrifice on the altar over symbel and bragarfull

>>519255872
well, that's how the jews see it, retard. know your enemy

>>519255884
history illiterate retard.

>>519256187
>we... wuz... viKANGS!!!!!!
but seriously, tell me about atlantis

>>519254242
I denounce the Torah. Your turn.

>>519256734
>I denounce the new testament
obvious kike

What's Irving's opinion on them?
that guy has forgotten more about the 3rd Reich than other historians ever knew

>>519255430
why are you embarrassed about your religion anon? jews invented it, that's a fact, no amount of cope will change that

>>519256971
jews did not invent christianity

>>519256971
okay retard, tell that to hitler and the national socialists

>>519257380
Looks like theyll be fine with it

David Irving says they are legit until around 1944
After that, they were made up

Don't know what author or edition tho