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Anonymous (ID: j93ZBYFm) United States No.519295498 >>519295608 >>519295617 >>519295894 >>519295991 >>519296036 >>519296437 >>519297162 >>519297164 >>519297303 >>519297384 >>519297591 >>519298035 >>519298163 >>519298230 >>519298454 >>519298461 >>519298489 >>519298562 >>519299203 >>519300159 >>519300442 >>519301010 >>519301428 >>519303466 >>519304726 >>519304883 >>519309070 >>519309567 >>519313208 >>519314000 >>519314888 >>519316687 >>519318100 >>519319392 >>519324221 >>519324711 >>519324910 >>519325028 >>519325538 >>519326008 >>519326251 >>519326589 >>519326918 >>519327844
Trump tells zelensky he needs to surrender
https://x.com/Faytuks/status/1979954473301660027
Anonymous (ID: k9ajwWBN) United States No.519295608 >>519296032 >>519296502 >>519296755 >>519296968 >>519297169 >>519302502 >>519303080 >>519303623 >>519305748 >>519305917 >>519308319 >>519308812 >>519309130 >>519309672 >>519311751 >>519313104 >>519316908 >>519317352 >>519318684 >>519318684 >>519318684 >>519322421 >>519325132 >>519325183 >>519326251 >>519326918
>>519295498 (OP)
Trump is literally the only person in the world trying to save Ukrainian lives.
Anonymous (ID: +9ep2HeA) Belgium No.519295617 >>519303323
>>519295498 (OP)
Cucklenski, accept you dont have the cards
Be a mature leader for once and accept the Russian offer for peace
Anonymous (ID: 9fvhiogJ) Germany No.519295894 >>519295965 >>519314985 >>519319256
>>519295498 (OP)
>Gaza peace collapses
>Trump is begging Zelensky to accept Putin's demands
ART of THE DEAL!
Anonymous (ID: 9fvhiogJ) Germany No.519295965 >>519296146 >>519324972
>>519295894
>Admits the US has no cards - they are all out of cards, no cards! - in the China trade war
almost forgot that big recent development
Karol Bober (ID: KXBrHjrX) Poland No.519295991 >>519296614 >>519297359
>>519295498 (OP)
POV you're Jewlensky:
Anonymous (ID: m5dAjZx1) Brazil No.519296032
>>519295608
fr
Anonymous (ID: TOvHHmJT) United States No.519296036
>>519295498 (OP)
> people familiar with the matter

kys, faggot
Karol Bober (ID: KXBrHjrX) Poland No.519296146 >>519296395 >>519308968
>>519295965
Funny because your car industry has Chinese dick in its mouth right now, Hans.
Anonymous (ID: vBe+sLIC) Canada No.519296395
>>519296146
Germany isn't trying to start a trade war against China then begging the entire world for help when it fails though.
Anonymous (ID: BBHT2F/7) South Korea No.519296437 >>519296547 >>519298549 >>519301125 >>519301135 >>519301311 >>519302506 >>519313923
>>519295498 (OP)
Remember just two weeks ago, trump was saying Ukraine could win their territory back and he was going to supply them with tomahawks
Anonymous (ID: 9WqRKeM3) United States No.519296502 >>519297843 >>519305917 >>519311877
>>519295608
Christ you're retarded
Anonymous (ID: 9WqRKeM3) United States No.519296547
>>519296437
Only a complete and utter moron would believe him.
Anonymous (ID: BBHT2F/7) South Korea No.519296614 >>519297593 >>519317174
>>519295991
look at this lying russnigger kike on a vpn
Anonymous (ID: bWstE0oA) Sweden No.519296634
Trump couldn't broker himself out of a wet paper bag even if he only had one foot inside it. He would come out of the meeting fully inside the bag and call it a great success for america.
Any deal he signs isn't worth the paper it is written on.
Anonymous (ID: j+B/Z08W) Australia No.519296755 >>519297843
>>519295608
By bombing Russia and arming Ukraine for no reason?
Anonymous (ID: 2X0ff+zH) United States No.519296880 >>519297023 >>519325533 >>519326384
the hohols are too dumb to realize they're dying to be replaced with somalians and pajeets. they're dying so mentally deranged homosexuals can rape boys & cut their dicks off. their jew king Zelensky has openly stated the intentions for Ukraine's future. Hohols are crazy to not march on Kiev themselves to depose their Israeli dual-citizen filled government.
Anonymous (ID: 0+AM5rPJ) United Kingdom No.519296968 >>519297305 >>519297396 >>519297843 >>519308439 >>519308861 >>519309038 >>519317827 >>519318826 >>519318826 >>519318826
>>519295608
Trump started the war in September 2019
Anonymous (ID: j+B/Z08W) Australia No.519297023 >>519297297
>>519296880
They aren't retarded because they are trying to evade conscription. The Ukrainian government has to stop them leaving the country and has to rip them off the streets and their homes to keep the war going.
Anonymous (ID: AyJpfY/m) United States No.519297162 >>519315777
>>519295498 (OP)
>shittiest president in the history of USA telling other countries what to do
Anonymous (ID: JhLOhndV) Canada No.519297164
>>519295498 (OP)

>made up things that never happened
Anonymous (ID: SJ7F8TuO) Denmark No.519297169 >>519297843 >>519326074
>>519295608
By ensuring the next war will happen within a decade?
Anonymous (ID: sa6AjiYO) United Kingdom No.519297281
They should all agree to walk in to Kiev, surround zelensky and not leave till he's dead.
Anonymous (ID: KuOQWgrT) United States No.519297297 >>519297349
>>519297023
Press gangs havent been used in Europe since the 1850s. Funny how eurofags are ok with this.
Anonymous (ID: u2yrxR0+) Argentina No.519297303 >>519297553 >>519303776 >>519308844
>>519295498 (OP)
Zelensky lost, Trump won, Putin won.
Rejoice.
Anonymous (ID: nsV7CY+0) United States No.519297305
>>519296968
ciamercs started it as soon as the prior lawfully elected leader of ukraine told the EU to go take their shitty energy deal and shove it up their ass because there's no reason to make them have skyrocketing energy prices for the privilege of selling the resources in the ground where they live
magically after the feb 2014 coup, the new guys were all about sucking the EU's dick to the point that they began bombing the eastern provinces for noncompliance
Anonymous (ID: j+B/Z08W) Australia No.519297349 >>519297756
>>519297297
Well neither do Americans since Ukraine is your puppet state that relies on your funds.
Anonymous (ID: 9fvhiogJ) Germany No.519297359
>>519295991
I seriously wonder what any Zelensky - Vance interactions are like ever since the first visit.
Awkward must not describe it nearly enough
Anonymous (ID: 0KHihK/s) No.519297384 >>519297648 >>519297916
>>519295498 (OP)
why is trump such a cuck? Every time he meets with Putin he does his "tough men" image no favors.
Anonymous (ID: b2gqJNiM) United States No.519297396
>>519296968
Victoria Neuland you are one disgusting pig
Anonymous (ID: 8qs4igPj) Poland No.519297553 >>519299229
>>519297303
Yeah and finland during winter war also lost xd russia is winnig always xd
Anonymous (ID: E5KnCVsD) Canada No.519297591
>>519295498 (OP)
>https://x.com/Faytuks/status/1979954473301660027
>>putin would destroy Ukraine if..

That's exactly what (((Zelinsky))) wants.
Karol Bober (ID: KXBrHjrX) Poland No.519297593
>>519296614
I'm not on vpn. This is my actual location.
Anonymous (ID: BBHT2F/7) South Korea No.519297595 >>519298338 >>519298474 >>519326192
itt
Anonymous (ID: y8JAsrPJ) France No.519297648 >>519297867 >>519297916 >>519298080
>>519297384
Trump is an obvious Putin fanboy but the answer is probably some kind of kompromat
Anonymous (ID: KuOQWgrT) United States No.519297756 >>519298122
>>519297349
Ok you got me
Anonymous (ID: k9ajwWBN) United States No.519297843 >>519298041 >>519319821
>>519296502
Settle down, NAFO tranny.
>>519296755
By trying to end the war.
>>519296968
Nonsense.
>>519297169
NAFO delusion. Wouldn't even matter if it were true, which it's not. Even a momentary ceasefire would save Ukrainian lives, which I know, as a NAFO tranny, you're not the least bit interested in doing.
Anonymous (ID: nsV7CY+0) United States No.519297867 >>519298257
>>519297648
its amazing the job the msm & plebbit have done on the minds of normies & retards
Anonymous (ID: hKnKwVfi) No.519297916 >>519298068
>>519297648
>>519297384
I don't think it's kompromat honestly. I think Trump is just completely inept at negotiations. He wants the war ended because it's Biden's thorn in his side (in his view) and he's trying to get the fastest way out.

Anyone who spends all day insisting they're a master negotiator is very obviously overcompensating because they're trying to convince everyone and themselves of their own bullshit.
Maybe his tactics worked in business but in politics they're fucking useless.
Anonymous (ID: iVgOR3Pj) No.519298035
>>519295498 (OP)
Zelenskyy: how dare you interfere with my religious right to sacrifice gentiles to Moloch.
Anonymous (ID: j+B/Z08W) Australia No.519298041 >>519298210
>>519297843
He could end the war by not arming Ukraine to fight it
Anonymous (ID: nsV7CY+0) United States No.519298068 >>519298214
>>519297916
>I think Trump is just completely inept at negotiations
globohomo stands to lose everything they've worked for over the last 400+ years,
and you somehow dont think we're in an information war lmao
Anonymous (ID: GMepR+H0) United Kingdom No.519298080
>>519297648
>muh agent krasov
Why do you retards fail to explain why Trump was the first president to send lethal military aid to Ukraine in his first term as president
Anonymous (ID: j+B/Z08W) Australia No.519298122
>>519297756
You are the very rare American that has agreed with me this week
You are incredible
Anonymous (ID: bAoZCf17) Germany No.519298163
>>519295498 (OP)
>People familliar with the matter said
Anonymous (ID: k9ajwWBN) United States No.519298210 >>519298443
>>519298041
That wouldn't end it. Europe will still arm the Jew, and I don't have any reason to think the Jew wouldn't send Ukrainians in their with pointy sticks if it came to that. Besides, he's trying to get Russia to agree too.
Anonymous (ID: hKnKwVfi) No.519298214 >>519303310
>>519298068
what has this drivel got to do with my reply?
>homoglobo gonna lose
Yeah yeah, how about them Epstein files then?
Anonymous (ID: vCHUJaFJ) Sweden No.519298230
>>519295498 (OP)
What really happened is that Putin told Trump that if he doesn't back down he'll release all the dirt he has on him. And Trump gave up, as he always does.
Anonymous (ID: y8JAsrPJ) France No.519298257
>>519297867
lol I don't even have a tv moron
Anonymous (ID: oFjmFFwy) United States No.519298338
>>519297595
>these are those white Russians I was telling you about
Anonymous (ID: BBHT2F/7) South Korea No.519298421 >>519311003 >>519328155
trump begging on behalf of pootin
Anonymous (ID: j+B/Z08W) Australia No.519298443
>>519298210
Europe can't arm them. That's why america keeps telling them to start building weapons (which they can't afford).
He doesn't need Russia to agree to anything. He can just cut off Ukraine.
Anonymous (ID: QcXoBAql) United States No.519298454 >>519299316
>>519295498 (OP)
Jewlensky will fight to the last goyim with your tax dollars
Anonymous (ID: 6bByR/07) United States No.519298461
>>519295498 (OP)
>putin had said he would β€œdestroy” Ukraine

gloves status?
Anonymous (ID: u3uAHeBC) No.519298474 >>519298645 >>519299383
>>519297595
the ukranny lost and your guy destiny is going to prison to be raped just like he was by his uncle when he was a child. your response, nigger?
have a dead tranny btw HAHAHAHAHAHA
AAAAACK!!!!!
total liberal death
Anonymous (ID: WxTKWhCi) United States No.519298489
>>519295498 (OP)
So what does surrender look like? Has Putin unveiled what his map changes are?
Anonymous (ID: e1rmU/CB) United States No.519298549
>>519296437
turns out electing the oldest president you've ever had isnt such a good idea
Anonymous (ID: fsqzUtyx) Canada No.519298562
>>519295498 (OP)
Didn't Trump said Ukraine had the Russian army encircled and was going to take back Crimes lmao?
Anonymous (ID: j+B/Z08W) Australia No.519298645
>>519298474
Sad
Anonymous (ID: zyip5a4U) United States No.519299203
>>519295498 (OP)
Two jews trying to screw the other. Of course it's noisy.
Anonymous (ID: 0WANeFHm) United States No.519299229
>>519297553
He wants Israel too.
Anonymous (ID: BBHT2F/7) South Korea No.519299316 >>519302203 >>519302870 >>519326539
>>519298454
ohh look another clown from the russian circus switched vpns
Anonymous (ID: BBHT2F/7) South Korea No.519299383 >>519305764 >>519319103 >>519326539
>>519298474
kike
Anonymous (ID: ++LapeyA) Spain No.519300159 >>519300777
>>519295498 (OP)
Lol Trump is very afraid after his last call with Putin.
Anonymous (ID: l9Bsy+Cv) Denmark No.519300442 >>519301262
>>519295498 (OP)
Not even two weeks ago it was Ukraine could reclaim all their territory. And all it took was a single call from Putin inbetween.
Don't you Americucks ever get tired of the humiliation rituals?
Anonymous (ID: cm+h86Az) United States No.519300777
>>519300159
That's really bad
Anonymous (ID: IuGbzKHa) New Zealand No.519301010 >>519301294
>>519295498 (OP)
He went expecting Tomahawks, nobody greeted him at the airport, then Trump told him the only way the war is over
Anonymous (ID: IuGbzKHa) New Zealand No.519301125
>>519296437
Negotiation from a position of power
Anonymous (ID: 8MUYCcys) Canada No.519301135
>>519296437
Kek, this is why you teach English in worst Korea.
Anonymous (ID: KaAYLQHd) United Kingdom No.519301262
>>519300442
>Don't you Americucks ever get tired of the humiliation rituals
The sane can be said for NAFO fags who got all excited for nothing :(
Anonymous (ID: cm+h86Az) United States No.519301294 >>519301701
>>519301010
Its all propaganda
Ukraine was never going to win but they'll lie until their blue in the fact. That leak that 1.5 million Ukrainian soldiers died shows that this was always a farce
Ukraines lost 20% of its land, half its population but giving it more tanks and guns than all the allies of ww2 is gonna help ig
Anonymous (ID: RFI1mTYS) No.519301311
>>519296437
And drump was seething he couldnt get that nobel award
Anonymous (ID: svwU7+ax) United States No.519301428 >>519302254
>>519295498 (OP)
idk why we're even involved? its like ukraine can't defend itself or something.
Anonymous (ID: IuGbzKHa) New Zealand No.519301701 >>519316479
>>519301294
Really makes me wonder if its even a war, Zelensky is a jew, jews famously want whites genocided
Anonymous (ID: nXHYVf7r) United States No.519302203
>>519299316
>anyone who doesn't trust a crooked, corrupt kike is a roooooskie reeeeeeeeeee
It's great to see that you're enjoying your weekend pass, Sgt. Jackson-Hernandez III
Anonymous (ID: y8JAsrPJ) France No.519302254 >>519302634
>>519301428
really? you don't know?
the answer is always money
Anonymous (ID: FowsnQEM) United States No.519302502
>>519295608
God has done more good through Trump the godless atheist than most American christians combined
Anonymous (ID: GnOg+kOH) Costa Rica No.519302506
>>519296437
Ukrainian cities will be bombed 24/7 if a single tomahawk pass russian AA
Anonymous (ID: svwU7+ax) United States No.519302634
>>519302254
Nah, it can't ever be that simple. We always need a bad guy to fight otherwise life has no purpose.
Anonymous (ID: hIrl7opL) Portugal No.519302755 >>519304310
Zelensky will be murdered in our life time.
As soon as the war ends and he his retired you can start the clock
Anonymous (ID: hKnKwVfi) No.519302870 >>519321455
>>519299316
You're underestimating how retarded MIGApedes are. They think Putin is a scorned anime hero fighting the good fight against 'globohomo'.
Anonymous (ID: zq9AVwPW) Hungary No.519303080
>>519295608
OrbΓ‘n did the same thing, he just doesn't have power like Trump.
But yeah, most politicians in Europe and US want THD.
Anonymous (ID: nsV7CY+0) United States No.519303310
>>519298214
>what has this drivel got to do with my reply?
you're a clueless retard
>Yeah yeah, how about them Epstein files then?
epstein leads to the end of the federal reserve
pay attention dumbfuck
Anonymous (ID: rj0qpJHd) Finland No.519303323 >>519311532 >>519317430 >>519323567 >>519323695 >>519328409
>>519295617

Yep just give 25% of your territory I'm sure the chinky slave mongol Horde will just leave it that you fucking imbecil retard fag muzzie nigger
Anonymous (ID: vCHUJaFJ) Sweden No.519303466
>>519295498 (OP)
>trump a week ago: russia is a paper tiger
> they're dying in untold numbers
>they can never win
>trump now: OMG SUE FOR PEACE NOW!!!!!!
the man's brain is melting isn't it? he can't hold onto a thought he had two days ago.
Anonymous (ID: 9o0mePXm) United States No.519303623 >>519303836
>>519295608
>Zogbot
>trying to save lives
Anonymous (ID: UCQyTVic) United States No.519303776
>>519297303
I really want Russia to assassinate Zelensky.
Either that or just blast him with a bomb so bad he's basically out of the game forever. Maybe Russia can imprison him in an amputee prison for disabled jews and force him to watch In Living Color reruns for the rest of his life.
Anonymous (ID: vCHUJaFJ) Sweden No.519303836
>>519303623
>saving lives
He's having a chamberlain moment. The only thing his subjugation to putin is doing is guaranteeing more war for years to come. Not only in Ukraine but it will spread to other countries neighboring Russia.
Anonymous (ID: ++LapeyA) Spain No.519304310 >>519305621 >>519311211
>>519302755
He is probably a billionaire by now, he will find some place to hide in for the rest of his days.
Anonymous (ID: UvackKM6) New Zealand No.519304726
>>519295498 (OP)
i wonder how long his peace plans in ukraine will last
3 whole days? maybe even 4!
Anonymous (ID: kzQbdqkJ) Latvia No.519304883
>>519295498 (OP)
seems like Medvedev wasn't joking when he said not only Israel has the tapes of his past atrocities
Anonymous (ID: hIrl7opL) Portugal No.519305621 >>519310576
>>519304310
you cant hide from russia
even if it takes 20 years they will poison you with an umbrella tip, that happened
Anonymous (ID: 4HFDEJnL) United Kingdom No.519305748
>>519295608
That's unironically Putin
Anonymous (ID: G4K9y5+V) United States No.519305764
>>519299383
turn off the vpn
Anonymous (ID: qrKR/C1k) United States No.519305917 >>519308939 >>519313422 >>519327245
>>519295608
>>519296502
You're fucking crazy. Europe has stated multiple times they want to kill all the ukiwookies and no one is freaked out about this but a few of us.
Anonymous (ID: vjMz2hF0) Poland No.519306659 >>519307071
for a guy who is supposed to be good at "deals" it seems retarded to just admit you have no leverage whatsoever in every single newspaper in the world before the other guy even joins negotiations

unless of course Trump was on Putins side all along since he was funded by him throughout his entire life and career
Anonymous (ID: D58cRQHi) United States No.519307071 >>519307259
>>519306659
>unless of course Trump was on Putins side all along since he was funded by him throughout his entire life and career
God you nafo troons are absolutely demented

Trump was a billionaire running New York when Putin was still a pencil pusher in the KGB
Anonymous (ID: vjMz2hF0) Poland No.519307259 >>519307946 >>519329047
>>519307071
and how did trump get money to become a billionaire? where did money come from to make him a billionaire??
trump was always a russian asset, you kgb puppets cant think logically no one just gets billion dollars to come from heaven to them
Anonymous (ID: D58cRQHi) United States No.519307946 >>519308182 >>519308717
>>519307259
>and how did trump get money to become a billionaire? where did money come from to make him a billionaire??
REAL ESTATE YOU FUCKING DUMB FAGGOT NIGGER /k/ POSTER
Anonymous (ID: EMrYkHfr) United Kingdom No.519308182 >>519308384
>>519307946
>engaging with nafotroons
m8
he'll be back to worshiping trump after the next flipflop in 2 weeks' time
Annoymous (ID: S5+BNhY8) United Kingdom No.519308319 >>519311877
>>519295608
By constantly flipfloping between which side he supports?
Anonymous (ID: D58cRQHi) United States No.519308384
>>519308182
nah, the ukraine question is done

ukraine lost
and nothing and no one will ever, EVER change that
Anonymous (ID: 4NDD189M) Belgium No.519308386
What is he doing we said TO THE LAST ukrainian. Theres still some left!
Anonymous (ID: jjtpaj/3) Germany No.519308439 >>519308758
>>519296968
hu what?
please elaborate
Anonymous (ID: vjMz2hF0) Poland No.519308717 >>519308879 >>519329342
>>519307946
AND WHERE DID HE GET MONEY TO BUY ALL THE REAL ESTATE YOU RETARDED NIGGER???
Money doenst fall from sky
If I wanted to buy half of new york because I know I can get rich off it, do you think I can do it?
No, because it costs MONEY to buy REAL ESTATE YOU NIGGER
Of course you love your zogbot masters with room temp iq
Anonymous (ID: 0+AM5rPJ) United Kingdom No.519308758
>>519308439
Trump started selling "lethal aid" to Ukraine in his first term and there was that whole debacle with the Quid Quo Pro that he was impeached for by scheming with Zelensky and promising him stuff if he was willing to give info about Biden's affairs there.
Anonymous (ID: 1Q8U1J0N) Croatia No.519308777 >>519316558
nothing new
Anonymous (ID: TO4aF4J7) No.519308812 >>519311877
>>519295608
LOL. Oh yeah? K.
Anonymous (ID: KLWujJwF) United Kingdom No.519308844 >>519309188
>>519297303
ftfy
Anonymous (ID: D/6g7YEn) United States No.519308861 >>519308960
>>519296968
The Ukraine shit started during the Obama administration, retard
Anonymous (ID: D58cRQHi) United States No.519308879 >>519310077
>>519308717
Trump is old money you fucking /k/ nigger troon
he got a million dollar loan from his dad to start his billion-dollar empire
Anonymous (ID: Ur41pO+t) Canada No.519308939 >>519329713
>>519305917
>we want them to live with us
>omg u guize can u believe they stated that they want to kill them all
uw0tm8
Anonymous (ID: 0+AM5rPJ) United Kingdom No.519308960 >>519313282
>>519308861
Faggot, the conflict was frozen but Trump re.started the aggressive posturing.
Anonymous (ID: owKI2h8K) No.519308968 >>519315763
>>519296146
what about your car industry?
Anonymous (ID: GTTIAUrl) Australia No.519309038
>>519296968
What the fuck am I reading?
Anonymous (ID: je4GvnsY) United States No.519309070
>>519295498 (OP)
Not like this, Tomahawk sisters, not like this
Anonymous (ID: 5sjudKnL) Austria No.519309130
>>519295608
God bless him for that.
Anonymous (ID: OilyC55p) United States No.519309136
Vlad said the N word and it spooked Trump.
Anonymous (ID: esm9bwbp) Mexico No.519309188 >>519309974 >>519329456
>>519308844
What will happen to zelensky after the war?
I would recommend public hanging for his incompetence.
Anonymous (ID: RBR+EmKq) No.519309567 >>519309861
>>519295498 (OP)
i wonder how long does it take people to realize how Trump has actually just stalled everything all this time, even when it seemed they had better relations with Zelensky.

since Trump got elected all he has done is help Russia.
Anonymous (ID: fs9SX0S+) Germany No.519309672 >>519309861
>>519295608
You are completely clueless. Putin despises weakness. Trumps desperation and incoherence makes a even somewhat lasting peace deal extremely unlikely. Once Putin gets a legal concession he would instantly try to double down. Putin doesn’t care about Russians, if his meat waves need another 500.000 to burn through until the end of next year he will try to recruit them until there is a rebellion. Trump is making things worse. Bidens and Trumps weakness is why China and Russia are increasingly emboldened even beyond the regular schedule of western power decline.
Anonymous (ID: D58cRQHi) United States No.519309861 >>519310438 >>519311153
>>519309567
>>519309672
eventually, you WILL accept the reality that ukraine fought a war against Russia on nato's behalf, *LOST* and will now get absofuckinglutely NOTHING for their pointless efforts
Anonymous (ID: LmeYVRwD) United States No.519309974
>>519309188
he'll retire to tel aviv and pal around with epstein
Anonymous (ID: vjMz2hF0) Poland No.519310077 >>519310404
>>519308879
million dollar is not enough to go and buy half of new york like he did, that money had to come from somewhere
you cannot think logically you zogbot retard of course you fall for every lie a kike tells you, you cannot think critically whatsoever
Anonymous (ID: D58cRQHi) United States No.519310404
>>519310077
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump
>" He grew up with his older siblings, Maryanne, Fred Jr., and Elizabeth, and his younger brother, Robert, in a 23-room mansion in the Jamaica Estates neighborhood of Queens.[3] Fred Trump paid his children each about $20,000 a year, equivalent to $265,000 a year in 2024. Trump was a millionaire in inflation-adjusted dollars by age eight.[4][a]"
Anonymous (ID: hXX4SBBW) Mexico No.519310438 >>519311018
>>519309861
They WILL get niggers, faggots and all kind of democratically speaking diversity
Anonymous (ID: zj/9XyUv) Mexico No.519310576
>>519305621
Even in isreal?
Anonymous (ID: sa6AjiYO) United Kingdom No.519311003
>>519298421
He's 'begging' on behalf of the 10,000 soldiers needlessly dying every month.
Anonymous (ID: D58cRQHi) United States No.519311018
>>519310438
>They WILL get niggers, faggots and all kind of democratically speaking diversity

>over budget and WAAAAAAAAAY late, but THD is still on track for a Q1 2026 delivery
Anonymous (ID: fs9SX0S+) Germany No.519311153 >>519311342 >>519311870 >>519324424 >>519325100
>>519309861
>Putin wanted to destroy Ukraine
>Ukraine isn’t going to be destroyed
Somehow you are even more clueless than trump. Quite impressive.
>Russia currently running into gas shortages and is losing its industrial base every night, has lost most of itβ€˜s strategic aviation, can barley keep their fleet from skinning, is so desperate they are now using North Korean artillery since they are running out of barrels and even North Korean shells, Ukraine has been able to destroy their most modern radar systems, they are now using T-62 and even T-54
>Ukraine is losing
The one who will ultimately have to settle with reality is you.
Anonymous (ID: sa6AjiYO) United Kingdom No.519311211
>>519304310
Lol, you don't think lots of other billionaires want him dead?
His every move will be watched by 200 satellites. I give him a week.
Anonymous (ID: D58cRQHi) United States No.519311342 >>519311932
>>519311153
>ukraine isn’t going to be destroyed

lmao, wrong on every count
but yah, only *checks notes* 15 or 16 more refinery bombings, and certainly Russia will collapse into balkanization THIS time!
Anonymous (ID: MShAgyBs) United States No.519311532
>>519303323
Total Hohol Death it is then, trench dodger. Maybe Finland should have let themselves be massacred in the winter war instead of conceding and losing even more territory than they were asked for?
Anonymous (ID: p3PsL0C2) Mexico No.519311751
>>519295608
COOL!
NOW SEND MORE TRILLIONS TO ISRAEL!
Anonymous (ID: EMrYkHfr) United Kingdom No.519311870 >>519312221
>>519311153
>Russia currently running into gas shortages
That's last week's totally true and accurate peremoga, get on with the times. This week (spoilers) is going to be about the Russian bases in Syria. :^) Didn't read the rest of your copepost
Anonymous (ID: 7rk2XBsL) United States No.519311877 >>519312884 >>519325249
>>519296502
>>519308319
>>519308812
stop shooting kids tranny
Anonymous (ID: fs9SX0S+) Germany No.519311932 >>519312246
>>519311342
Here is your trajectory from
>3 days special military and victory parade in Ukraine
>…
>soon the fifth year of the war is approaching and 30 to 40 percent of Russian refinery capacity is down, but it doesn’t mean that Russia going to collapse due to social unrest soon
Anonymous (ID: fs9SX0S+) Germany No.519312221 >>519312532
>>519311870
>see I can get irrelevant claims without sources with regards to one claim
Nice try. But it’s even admitted by official Russian sources, even they were unable to hide it anymore.
>I can’t disprove the rest
Yeah. I know.
Anonymous (ID: D58cRQHi) United States No.519312246
>>519311932
>3 days special military and victory parade in ukraine

lol,
LMAO even
>keev, 48hrs into "no nato support"
Anonymous (ID: EMrYkHfr) United Kingdom No.519312532 >>519312859
>>519312221
>russian gasoline prices
>irrelevant claims
This one's done, send in the next nafoid.
Anonymous (ID: fs9SX0S+) Germany No.519312859
>>519312532
Fine I babysit you. Here is exactly why it’s irrelevant.
>government sources, regulatory agencies, petroleum companies, and major media
sources.
You need to know the true sources. Where they publish it and their methodology, also establish their independence. Otherwise it’s just nonsense.
Annoymous (ID: S5+BNhY8) United Kingdom No.519312884
>>519311877
Debate me faggot. I double dare ya
Anonymous (ID: bS8SOgvr) Ireland No.519313104
>>519295608
Youre American so your opinion is worthless, whenever have you ever fought a war not half finished by those you insult, and won?

Never. Thats when. Youre goyim to be used as meat shields, but that doesnt win wars.
Anonymous (ID: 2xWAamM6) Germany No.519313208
>>519295498 (OP)
>>loooook. This text I wrote shows what trump said. Recognize meeeeee.
Anonymous (ID: dhxltdf8) United States No.519313282
>>519308960
Trump was pushed into doing that by the media calling him putins puppet. It’s not a good excuse but it is what happened, all the ukranian government is now is whatever the cia wanted it to be in the same vein as most South American governments.

Trump selling Ukraine those weapons is functionally the same as Obama with the bank bail outs, a plan set in motion before they came to power that they take the credit for
Anonymous (ID: BBHT2F/7) South Korea No.519313283
itt
Anonymous (ID: 2xWAamM6) Germany No.519313422 >>519313618
>>519305917
>> she said that.
Uhm no?
How's how just go to (your harlem public) school again? Dumb nigger.
Anonymous (ID: XGfRvsWo) United States No.519313580
Telling slavs what to do is like talking to a rock.
Anonymous (ID: EMrYkHfr) United Kingdom No.519313618
>>519313422
https://x.com/vonderleyen/status/1537739940942991360
Anonymous (ID: BNnQ1E2/) Norway No.519313923 >>519315149
>>519296437
remember the 50 days he gave putin about 4 months ago? and the 14 days he gave him about a week into those 50 days? or how he would fix the war the first 24 hours into his presidency in january?

4 months from now and the moron will start feeling like his good friend putin doesn't want peace again.
Anonymous (ID: ZBCW9fNA) No.519314000 >>519314319 >>519314888 >>519315346
>>519295498 (OP)
I foresee a couple of possibilities here.
Zelensky can capitulate the Donbas to Russia, potentially buying some time for the rest of the Ukraine to rebuild, and strengthen itself against future russian incursions, which if I've been understanding Putin's intentions correctly, absolutely will be coming in the near future.

He went to war with the intent of taking all of Ukraine and everything else lost when the USSR collapsed, and likely wants whatever else he can get away with taking without having to face an all-out nuclear war. Capitulating will buy some time, but not much.

Zelensky can dig his heels in and keep fighting, risking the loss of US and/or NATO support, he might win, he might lose, I know little of the conflict, but I put the odds of him winning without support at 80/20 against, if that.

He runs the risk of Russia upping the ante and potentially using nuclear weapons in Ukraine, to what level I don't know, what i do know is if Russia uses nukes, NATO will have no choice but to respond with force, whether a nuke is aimed at Ukraine or the EU makes no difference, because nukes cause damage that lasts and affects everyone around where they're used, and the moment one nuke is used, it potentially sets a domino effect in motion causing counter launches and counter-counter launches.

This part to me explains why Trump "begging" or "urging" Zelensky to capitulate the Donbas might make sense, if Russia is willing to use a nuke, they're willing to open a Pandora's box the entire western world worked its ass off to close and lock, and then agreed never to open again.

Putin won't listen to reason on this, his mind is made and set in stone, and his nation is no stranger to losing masses of people we in the west would find horrifying and wasteful.

Russia doesn't see casualties the same way we do, Any victory whether decisive, or pyrrhic, is still a victory, and thus is worth the cost it entails in Russia's view.
Anonymous (ID: fs9SX0S+) Germany No.519314319 >>519316243
>>519314000
>Trumps desperation
It’s his incompetence and his psychological issues. The Middle East deal isn’t working. Now he will try to shift attention elsewhere South Africa and Russia. Possibly even alien theatre or domestic things.
>Donbas will be given to Putin
Won’t happen and Putin knows it. It’s where all the strongest defense lines are.
Anonymous (ID: ZBCW9fNA) No.519314888 >>519315346 >>519315401 >>519315598
>>519295498 (OP)
>>519314000

...If Russia uses nukes NATO will have to respond with force, as will the US, the world will not tolerate a country like Russia nuking a nation like Ukraine, nor anyone else unprovoked.

Unprovoked meaning someone hits Russia with a nuke first, anything less to the rest of the world would be considered an unprovoked use of nuclear force.

Trump is looking at this and very clearing seeing the same thing I am, Zelensky carrying on the fight, risks Russia's threats becoming actions, and if they become actions, the rest of the world will be compelled to do something about it, there will be no choice, sitting back and letting it happen un answered would make the entire world look weak in the face of war with Russia, and that simply will not be allowed to happen.

Trump knows Putin will not listen, so he's not wasting his time talking to him about this, hell to me him backing down and walking back the deployment of tomahawks after the threats that got thrown both the west and his way personally with the threat to target mar-a-lago from cuba means he and his staff are ttaking Putin's threats to attack the west or use nukes very seriously.

He's talking to Zelensky because he's more likely to listen, if he doesn't, I'm not sure what comes next, Trump will have to choose between going all in and backing Ukraine, or standing back and hoping Russia doesn't force his hand by using a nuke, or attacking the west.
Anonymous (ID: tgN5ASMz) United States No.519314985
>>519295894
Anonymous (ID: D58cRQHi) United States No.519315149
>>519313923
>he thinks there will be a "the ukraine" in 4months
Anonymous (ID: QX861QrC) United States No.519315346
>>519314000
>>519314888
Any time a concern-trolling vatnik nigger with white skin invokes "NOOKS," you can immediately dismiss anything he's saying as pure 'tardation.

There are twelve hour video essays made by autistic NEETs about anime cartoons that contain more useful insight than this slop.

Nice scripts, btw.
Anonymous (ID: D58cRQHi) United States No.519315401 >>519317576
>>519314888
>Trump will have to choose between going all in and backing ukraine,

>HURRRRRRRRRRRRRR DUDRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR IM A demoshit think-tank!
>i know!... Trump=ukraine!... if ukraine loses then Trumperino loses!
>you know Trumperino, his ego cant take a loss ever! he'll have to double down on ukraine support now that he *IS* ukraine! or else he *LOSES* too!
>haha Trump loses if ukraine loses neeenerneeenerneeeeener!" checkmate republishits! ukraine support forever now!"


nato 'message-makers' are so buckshattered and in such dissarray for a cohesive narrative for ukraine, the only thing left is ass-dripping psychosis retardation like
>"Trump will TACO and go GIGA ULTRA SLOBBER URGRANNY!!! YOU JUST WAIT!"

some subterranean level of troon hysteria
Anonymous (ID: fs9SX0S+) Germany No.519315598 >>519315911 >>519315930 >>519317576
>>519314888
You are overthinking it. Putin senses Trumps weaknesses and vanity. He knows how to play with it. Chances are Trump is compromised on top of it. Putin has dealt with narcissistic know it all type business people/oligarchs all his time in office and even before roughly this stuff is what he was trained for at the KGB. He is having a field day with Trump and the other newcomers.
Anonymous (ID: zUr8J0QM) Hungary No.519315763
>>519308968
Polski Fiat :D
Anonymous (ID: wKvncTH1) United States No.519315777
>>519297162
Zelensky is definitely the shittiest president in all of history and for some reason he thinks he's president of the USA too. Soon all Zelensky supporters will be rounded up, interrogated to give up their comrades and then all executed. This includes people who supported him online.
Anonymous (ID: nvEYCK+h) Australia No.519315789 >>519315916 >>519316150
I really don't know how people can defend a president who's policy seemingly changes based on the last person he spoke to? Last week he was ready to fuck Russia up because of how horribly they're doing and now Ukraine has to give up? Where's the logic? Is he actually senile?
Anonymous (ID: D58cRQHi) United States No.519315911 >>519318863
>>519315598
Trump was a billionaire closing deals buying half of new york when Putin was a pencil pusher in St.Petersburg

you faggot /k/ niggers have some kind of parasite in your brains
Anonymous (ID: zUr8J0QM) Hungary No.519315916
>>519315789
80 year old syphilis riddled boomer who can't remember what he talked about 2 weeks ago
Anonymous (ID: wKvncTH1) United States No.519315930 >>519318863
>>519315598
Did you know that legally you belong to the American government? Your land and your citizens are our property by law. You're legally a slave.
Anonymous (ID: Vr9NOqlS) United States No.519315956 >>519316194
Why does the US refuse to fucking kill this short king and then proceed to help Russia finish the job because FUCK THEM.
Anonymous (ID: D58cRQHi) United States No.519316150
>>519315789
nothing changed, and Trump was literally trolling faggot nigger euro's into admitting ukraine wasnt winning when he said

>"you know what, ukraine is winning, Russia is about collapse, Putin's regime is finished, and ukraine can absolutely recover ALL of its lost territory (including Crimea) with just the support of europe!" thank you for your att*ack"
euro-cuck politicians in unison
>"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOT LIKE THAT!!! ukraine ISNT winning and we desperately need your help Donald NOOOOOO WE'LL DO ANYTHING! BUY ANYTHING YOU SAY!!"
Anonymous (ID: D58cRQHi) United States No.519316194
>>519315956
>Why does the US refuse to fucking kill this short king

zelensky has nothing to do with any of this, and is a total sock-puppet for london, and has been since day one
Anonymous (ID: ZBCW9fNA) No.519316243 >>519316619 >>519316685 >>519322860
>>519314319
He's a politician and a businessman misdirection and political sleight of hand are par for the course with quite literally all of them.

This doesn't look like psychological issues to me, Biden is what psychological issues looks like, Trump is rude, loud, abrasive, unapologetic, stubborn, arrogant, and unceasingly confident, these are personality flaws absolutely no argument there, but they're not an indication of mental illness, just of what sort of person you are, and they're most certainly not an indication of incompetence, there are ways each of these traits can work to both his advantage and disadvantage in almost any situation.

I honestly agree that Zelensky is not going to capitulate the Donbas, not in a million years, Putin knows this, which means he knows he's going to have to use every tool in his toolbox, every trick in his book if he's going to win this, and that includes nukes, he's already thought this through.

I don't know enough about Zelensky to say whether he's thought this through or not, I don't know what kind of man he is, or what sort of leader he is, I just know he's fighting and isn't planning on giving up.

All this means that left to their own devices, Zelensky will keep fighting, and Russia will keep losing troops and equipment, until eventually their losses become so great and attack on Russia's interior by Ukraine likely can and will justify the usage of nukes in Russia's view, I think Trump knows this, knows that its now a terrifyingly close possibility which he may have little time to do something about, and if it comes to pass, there will be nothing he can do to stop what comes next, which is a potential all out nuclear war.

I think this possibility terrifies him, It most certainly does me, I don't wanna die in a nuclear winter but i don't want Ukraine to be subjugated either, they're their own country and should remain so. But if Russia presses the issue and goes nuclear, there will be no turning back for any of us.
Anonymous (ID: AQDGuJTC) Germany No.519316269
just let putin zutt ukraine
Anonymous (ID: vdVwKIQ+) United States No.519316284
Dude just die please we can't stand your whining about peace accords or whatever
Anonymous (ID: P96SGYIC) United States No.519316479
>>519301701
I'm still pretty sure this is some arrangement to resettle sleepers loyal to Russia and Israel, as "Ukrainian refugees" who were "supposedly killed" in this sham war, into Western nations in which they do their typical Jewish leech thing getting preferential treatment while the native Western populations go broke and jobless.

Much like the original "Holocaust" in which the "six million" who "died in the camps" were secretly resettled into Western nations as sleepers loyal to the Soviet Union, sleepers who became the Julius and Ethel Rosenbergs and the Jonathan Pollards.

The next generation of Julius and Ethel Rosenbergs and Jonathan Pollards, Jewish spies in Western nations, will have blonde hair and will be of Polish and Ukrainian origin.
Anonymous (ID: P96SGYIC) United States No.519316558
>>519308777
Anonymous (ID: D58cRQHi) United States No.519316619
>>519316243
>ukraine will get stronger and actually invade Russian soil, and probably provoke a nuclear war after nato support stops, its scary, yes I know, nato expansion is non-negotiable
Anonymous (ID: X2Vk00sX) United States No.519316685 >>519318405
>>519316243
Great points. We are closer to the end than folks realize. Trump does. Man the shit that man has to deal with.
Anonymous (ID: tF5z19v/) Australia No.519316687 >>519317023
>>519295498 (OP)
Isnt this like the 4th time hes done that. I dont think we even need to wait 2 weeks for him to go back on this, its just whoever calls him on the phone next
Anonymous (ID: dGETlwVf) United States No.519316908 >>519317023
>>519295608
Only for the next 12 hours, then he will flip.
Anonymous (ID: D58cRQHi) United States No.519317023
>>519316687
>>519316908
Trump can flip flop another dozen times, it still wont deliver anything to ukraine other than *yuks* online

and this latest one is sure to cause morale to crater in ukrindia when they find out
Anonymous (ID: wwzpm/yN) Sweden No.519317174
>>519296614
lol and where is this "South Korea". aint no place I ever heard of.
Anonymous (ID: pPVpGi9I) No.519317352 >>519322839
>>519295608
Unironically it feels that way. Either they die today or at some point during Russia's inevitable victory so why not just fucking stop.
Anonymous (ID: pPVpGi9I) No.519317430 >>519322363 >>519322839
>>519303323
He's already lost tens of thousands of lives AND spent the money of his allies AND lost 30% of it. Dude is reliant on foreign aid to fun his war
Anonymous (ID: ZBCW9fNA) No.519317576 >>519318061 >>519318213
>>519315401
mindless noise, not worth my time.

>>519315598

That's a possibility, I'm badly prone to overthinking things, and I don't doubt Putin knows this mind game inside and out, but I'm I don't see this panning out any other way.

Russia is not doing well in this fight, tons of losses, surgical strikes inside Russian territory inflicting damage that can and will make the nation bleed to death economically and financially, a slow moving never ending game of push-n-pull with Ukraine over territory.

Unless Putins planning on just doing this the same slow death by a thousand cuts style, the entire way through, I don't see any other possible outcome or direction in which things are heading, at the current rate Russia will have lost more than half its population in casualties before Putin manages to take anywhere near all the territory he's after, and that's only if he can pull it off without getting nuked by the West, which I doubt.

He's used almost very Trump card he has in the fighting, no pun intended, and its gotten him fuckall besides an ever growing casualty list, a severely depleted tank and armor force, and a heap load of destroyed or crippled refineries with more likely on the way. I don't see how else he could have any chance of winning this mess but to either use nukes, or go to war with the west, forcing NATO to spend its resources fighting Russia directly instead of helping Ukraine which to my mind makes as much sense as hitting the next closest random guy in a bar fight because you're losing against the guy you're fighting now.
Anonymous (ID: as1xcFzR) United Kingdom No.519317827
>>519296968
Biden started the war in 2014.
Anonymous (ID: mc75fB/Y) Russian Federation No.519318061 >>519319554
>>519317576
Holy cope. Russia does not even have mandatory mobilization. Only those who want to make some $ (or escape prison) join the safari. Gloves are unironically still on.

>Slow death by a thousand cuts style
Exactly. Let's say Russia has unprecedented success tomorrow and fhe frontline goes over Kiev with Zelensky signing the unconditional surrender. What would follow is unrest and difficulties on captured territories for many years. Putin right now is killing off all those who would even think to resist later.
Anonymous (ID: kXPB/5x3) United States No.519318100
>>519295498 (OP)
And then, for no reason at all, a hunting stand is discovered very near to air force ones landing spot. Totally unrelated….
Anonymous (ID: D58cRQHi) United States No.519318213 >>519320309
>>519317576
>Russia is not doing well in this fight, tons of losses, surgical strikes inside Russian territory inflicting damage that can and will make the nation bleed to death economically

meanwhile, IRL, Russia is exporting record levels of crude oil
>https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-10-14/russia-s-oil-exports-jump-to-their-highest-in-more-than-two-years

it must be physically painful to be a /k/ike poster in 2025
every talking point is pure fantasy
Anonymous (ID: ZBCW9fNA) No.519318405 >>519318689 >>519319086
>>519316685
Don't get me wrong here, I'm not a fan of the guy or the way he handles some of thee parts of running a country. I think those rude, abrasive, and arrogant streaks are a seriously big disadvantage that makes it really hard to like him as a leader, and there's plenty of decisions he's made that I don't agree with.

But that doesn't mean I can't see or respect what he's facing or just how close to the end of the eleventh hour we might be while he's doing so. The man's got the world on his shoulders right now, literally and figuratively, and An inability to convince Putin or Zelensky to back down, If i was in Trump's shoes, would make it seem to me like nuclear war is right around the corner, and despite being the commander in chief of the most powerful country on earth, I'm powerless to stop it.

That's one hell of a painful thing to imagine, and that's what it seems to me like he's dealing with right now.
Anonymous (ID: dGnYI0mt) United States No.519318684
>>519295608
>>519295608
>>519295608
Anonymous (ID: kXPB/5x3) United States No.519318689 >>519318873 >>519318873 >>519318873
>>519318405
>powerless to stop it
Its trivial to stop it. Nuke the jews first. They control both sides through chabad and are planning to use a ww3 nuclear exchange when their Israel project predictably fails.
Anonymous (ID: dGnYI0mt) United States No.519318826
>>519296968
>>519296968
>>519296968
RUSSIA STARTED THE WAR IN 2022

THIS IS RUSSIA'S FAULT
AND NOW RUSSIANS WILL BE REPLACED WITH INDIANS & AFRICANS.

THE WEST WAS ALREADY DOOMED
NOW RUSSIA
HAS DOOMED ITSELF. DEMOGRAPHICS =/= DESTINY
Anonymous (ID: fs9SX0S+) Germany No.519318863
>>519315911
>Trump was filling for chapter 11 while Putin was building a network of loyal oligarchs
>>519315930
>have you ever heard of German sovereignty issues post 1945
Yes, Iβ€˜m aware, but it’s different and more complicated. However not that relevant to the issue at hand.
Anonymous (ID: dGnYI0mt) United States No.519318873 >>519321411
>>519318689
>>519318689
>>519318689
SO WEIMERICA
SINCE YOU HAVE MORE JEWS THAN ISRAEL

IT'S REASONABLE BY THAT LOGIC THAT AMERICA SHOULD BE NUKED. KEK.
Anonymous (ID: dGnYI0mt) United States No.519319009
1% OF UKRAINE IN 18 MONTHS... -30,000 RUSSIANS A MONTH THAT'S -540,000 RUSSIANS LOST IN 18 MONTHS.

RUSSIA & AMERICA
SIMPLY CANNOT WIN WARS ANYMORE. THEIR GOY ARMIES ARE MAXED OUT. VAXXED XD
Anonymous (ID: W65GsJPf) United States No.519319086 >>519320757 >>519320992
>>519318405
Your posting style leads me to believe you’re an unironic boomer or gen X faceberg poster and not a paid shill. If so, may god have mercy on your kike cum slurping soul.
Anonymous (ID: dOtubuQk) Netherlands No.519319099
>Putin calls
>Drump flips again
Pathetic
Anonymous (ID: TgO2bFIj) Germany No.519319103
>>519299383
>shoots himself instead of the guy
Anonymous (ID: r64ij272) Canada No.519319221
https://www.mkgandhi.org/mynonviolence/chap46.php

surrender and save your souls
no war is worth fighting
Anonymous (ID: F7MPHeYT) No.519319256 >>519319436 >>519326648
>>519295894
>Gaza peace collapses
Nope

>Trump said to zelensky to surrender to Putin.
Unfortunately for russia, this isn't occuring
Anonymous (ID: Z6pUChpJ) United States No.519319392 >>519319499 >>519321411
>>519295498 (OP)
The only way Ukraine won’t lose is if NATO full intervenes and starts WW3. Although at that point it’s more of a question of whether Ukraine would be turned into a bigger Chernobyl or not
Anonymous (ID: D58cRQHi) United States No.519319436
>>519319256
lmao, ukraine WILL surrender or it will be destroyed, simple as

>"were done, were done"
Donald Trump to zelensky (london)
Anonymous (ID: D58cRQHi) United States No.519319499
>>519319392
lmao some token european armies joining wouldnt make a fucking single bit of difference

"nato" is a completely imaginary paper tiger, in the literal, actual sense
Anonymous (ID: ZBCW9fNA) No.519319554 >>519320900
>>519318061
The money they can make ultimately doesnt matter, because they never get it, they get sent to the front, they die there, and their dog tags disappear, they never get paid, and no one they leave behind back home gets any benefits.

As for prison guys, they're always the first ones to desert when things go pear shaped and then they either disappear, die, or become a nuisance for both sides in the region, hampering progress one way or the other.

A lack of mandatory mobilization is honestly irrelevant at this point Russia tempts people in with money, promises no front line duty or desk jobs or whatever else, and as soon as they're in, all that disappears and its straight to the front.

As for the folks who might resist later, that does make some sense, but as far as I know most of the civilian populace left the country and what's left are the ones who wanted to stay and fight or try to weather the storm. Most of the population has been displaced which means if Russia takes the region, and gets rid of the resistance, its now largely empty, and will need to be repopulated by Russia, back in 2010 Ukraine had a population of over 45 million people.

Russia's initial goal with the region was they wanted the resources and the infrastructure, the latter is mostly destroyed now, which means if they want the former, alot of russians will have to be sent to ukraine to get things back up and running, and the number needed would likely account for more than a quarter of russia's total population, this is just my guess.

I wouldnt call what Russia's been up to since this conflict reignited gloves on behavior, I'd call it gloves off, and increasingly larger guns in hand, with the next ones in line being some of if not the biggest ones they have.
Anonymous (ID: D910BquY) United States No.519319821 >>519324614
>>519297843
>NAFO delusion
is nafo just nato but its the north atlantic faggot organization? i should know this by now but haven't stopped to ask. or is NAFO actually a thing
Anonymous (ID: ZBCW9fNA) No.519320309 >>519320900
>>519318213
did you not even read the result of that search? the increased exports are a change in strategy necessitated by the attacks to keep the state revenue stable, meaning, that increase in exports proves my point, that is the bleed out you're seeing, and the increased production is the heart racing to compensate for the rapidly dropping blood pressure of an entire nation's economy.

That is proof that Russia's economy has been badly injured by the refinery attacks, and is beginning to fail as a direct result.

The decline in revenue leads to greater export numbers to compensate for the drop in price, the loss of key production capacity leads to what's left being pushed harder to increase production capacity and compensate for the damage.

There's nothing fantasy about any of this, its simple supply, demand, cost, quantity, and production capacity.
Anonymous (ID: ZBCW9fNA) No.519320757 >>519320992
>>519319086
people keep throwing this kike shill crap at each other and i don't understand any of it in the slightest.

I'm not for either side of that argument, as far as I'm concerned the answer there is, everyone is the bad guy, both sides hands are soaked in one another's blood as well as their own, beyond that I don't know enough to have much more of an opinion.
Anonymous (ID: D58cRQHi) United States No.519320900 >>519321875 >>519322225
>>519319554
>The money they can make ultimately doesnt matter, because they never get it, they get sent to the front, they die there, and their dog tags disappear, they never get paid, and no one they leave behind back home gets any benefits.
grim realities about the afu

>>519320309
>Russia is setting economic records exporting oil products all while its supposedly is being "deleted" by nato, 24/7

LOL,
LMAO EVEN

the price of Russian gasoline has now reached parity with the US (roughly)
Anonymous (ID: ZBCW9fNA) No.519320992
>>519319086
>>519320757
...And on top of that I'm not sure I have the wherewithal needed to wade through such a confusing and bloody mess of a conflict stretching back longer than I've been alive, without being overcome by it all.
Anonymous (ID: kXPB/5x3) United States No.519321411
>>519318873
Frankly amazing no one has done it yet!

>>519319392
>only way ukraine wins is if NATO full on intervenes
See right there you made one hell of an assumption. That NATO can beat Russia. As clearly demonstrated IN Ukraine all the European power together would get rolled by Russia. And the UsA cannot intervene sufficiently to change the scales without abandoning Israel. And given the choice between saving the world and saving Israel, the US will ALWAYS choose Israel.
Anonymous (ID: N8SkGPbI) Canada No.519321455
>>519302870
I think they are worse than pajeets.
Anonymous (ID: ZBCW9fNA) No.519321875 >>519323327 >>519324661
>>519320900
those record setting economic stats you're on about are essentially the price Russia is having to pay not just to keep their economy afloat after suffering a near fatal blow, but to get that price of gas to where it is and keep it there, I can't help but wonder how long they'll be able to keep it that way before their stockpiles become a problem.

Especially if Ukraine keeps hitting Russia's refineries like they've been doing.

When the fuel runs low engines surge, the highest heart rate you will find in a human body, is in the body of a man who is within a few moments of bleeding to death.

I'm not saying Russia is terminal and about to drop dead here, but they are definitely in trouble, and that production and export increase proves it. If I'm right you're going to see their still functional refineries kicking into overdrive, which that increase in production proves is already happening, if they can't keep up, their refined fuel supply stockpiles will plummet some time soon, and you will see them rushing like mad to get what destroyed refineries they can back in operation and you will see them slapping new ones together as fast as they can possibly manage it.

That refinery attack was a shot to the kidney that doubled them over.
Anonymous (ID: ZBCW9fNA) No.519322225 >>519323327
>>519320900
also yes war is a grim reality in general, but if you think Russia is genuinely funding and equipping and sending a million men or more into the Ukraine with an economy held together by duct tape, string, communist nostalgia, and hope, without cutting every corner they can possibly get away with, you're more bonkers than me, and I'm bat shit nuts.
Anonymous (ID: CorE2565) Sweden No.519322363 >>519323158 >>519323394 >>519323622
>>519317430
Ukraine has been defending themselves from an unprovoked invasion for several years. Pretty weak of you to suggest they should bend over for bullies.

Let me guess, you're one of the retards who ridiculed Biden when he warned of the invasion, and who said Ukraine wouldn't last a week? Vatnik.
Anonymous (ID: gY+m6Ar/) Canada No.519322421
>>519295608
Fpbp
Euros are obsessed with fighting Russia to the last Ukrainian
Anonymous (ID: ZBCW9fNA) No.519322839
>>519317352
because Ukraine doesn't want to be a part of Russia, if they had, they'd have stayed attached as a part of the country when the Union collapsed, they have every right to their own sovereignty, and yes while they are very heavily reliant on foreign aid, they're also fighting an invading enemy that is much larger and has more resources to work with and far more people to lose than them.

>>519317430

Its not a surprise they're losing a lot of what they have as well as what's sent to them by the west, they're fighting an uphill battle against a bigger more powerful enemy, frankly I'm surprised they've managed to do as well as they have with the resources, manpower, and support they have without losing more than half of it never mind 30% over the course of the past few years.

I'd say given the circumstances they're more than holding their own.
Anonymous (ID: s70kBFng) United States No.519322860 >>519323665
>>519316243
nah fuck em to death. Acquiescing to threats like that makes the probability of nuclear war orders of magnitude higher. Fuck you z-nigger get a real job.
Anonymous (ID: gY+m6Ar/) Canada No.519323158 >>519324067
>>519322363
>defending themselves
You mean the CIA-installed puppets forcing Ukrainians into the meat grinder at gunpoint?
Anonymous (ID: D58cRQHi) United States No.519323327 >>519324672
>>519321875
>>519322225
LOL,
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Anonymous (ID: D58cRQHi) United States No.519323394
>>519322363
>ukraine has been defending themselves from an unprovoked invasion for several years.

HAAHAHAHAH
AHAHHAHAHA
AHAAHAAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHA
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
AHAHAHHAHAHA
AHHAAHHAH

the absolute state of /k/ talking points
Anonymous (ID: erNiwqS+) United States No.519323567
>>519303323
Yes, if you fuck up bad enough to cause a war against that much more powerful of a nation you are going to have to give up some territory.
Anonymous (ID: D58cRQHi) United States No.519323622
>>519322363
>ukraine has been defending themselves from an unprovoked invasion for several years
Anonymous (ID: ZBCW9fNA) No.519323665 >>519323773
>>519322860
its not a matter of probability at this point its an inevitability that at some point things will go there, Russia and the west will trade nukes within the next decade, mark my words, and I think Trump is painfully aware of that, and at this point I think he's near desperate to do the only thing he really can do at this point in the game, which is play for time.

I don't like the guy, but I genuinely think he does love his country and doesn't want to see it ravaged by a nuclear war. I'm not a father or a grandfather like him(not entirely sure hes a granddad id have to check, but i think he is), but I am an uncle, and there's nothing i dread more than having to watch my nieces suffer through such a horrible conflict.

And I'm certain I'm not alone in this mindset, in Trump's shoes, if it meant sparing the ones I love from suffering that might never end, there is no amount of crow I wouldn't eat to keep them safe, which probably means its a good thing I don't run anything but my own life.
Anonymous (ID: D58cRQHi) United States No.519323695 >>519324672
>>519303323
>Yep just give 25% of your territory I'm sure the chinky slave mongol Horde will just leave it that you fucking imbecil retard fag muzzie nigger

yes, ukraine lost the war
losers get nothing
this is what happens when you LOSE wars
YOU LOSE LAND, LIFE AND YOUR FUTURE

this is the fate ukraine chose
these were the stakes ukraine deemed acceptable
*THIS* is the magnitude of their failure
Anonymous (ID: D58cRQHi) United States No.519323773
>>519323665
>Russia and the west will trade nukes within the next decade, mark my words,

LMAO

ZERO
POSSIBLE
CHANCE

if Russia hasnt already nuked london, they never will
Anonymous (ID: CorE2565) Sweden No.519324067 >>519324709
>>519323158
Are you talking about Zelensky, who was democratically elected, and who the current US administration has given zero aid? Yeah must've been the CIA who put him there.

You're a fucking retard. And a weak one at that, the kind who bend the knee to bullies.
Anonymous (ID: 5QXfvg24) United States No.519324221
>>519295498 (OP)
Giving up now is pointless after all the lives that have been lost, might as well fight to keep your freedom, also fuck Donald Trump.
Anonymous (ID: sIxC/U44) United States No.519324307 >>519324585
You have to ask yourself, why?
Why did Russia invade Ukraine 3 times?
Why did this time go so wrong?
Becasue the world is fighting Russia by suppling U with anti-air and anti-armor weapons.
BUT
They lack skilled hands. Grabbing a U citizen off the corner does nothing long term. They have no training or desire to fight... like paid professional troops.
In the end U will lose to R unless the world goes in and provides a no fly/go zone, which means WW3.
Anonymous (ID: phhiy44N) United Kingdom No.519324424
>>519311153
"its over for Russia" says increasingly nervous man for the 15th time
Anonymous (ID: D58cRQHi) United States No.519324585 >>519325344
>>519324307
>unless the world goes in and provides a no fly/go zone, which means WW3.

lmao, nato could never have done this in their wildest dreams or they would have, believe it
Anonymous (ID: JPKT3edK) United States No.519324614
>>519319821
It's a bunch of boomer Internet LARPers from reddit that act like their gay memes and shilling has any effect on the war, which it doesn't.
Anonymous (ID: 4zwXMmDk) Australia No.519324661
>>519321875
>destroyed refineries

There is not a single destroy refinery.
Drone attacks cause partial damage.

When Houthis attacked Saudi Arabia with similar drones a few years ago, it took Saudi Arabia 48 hours to start the refineries back, and a few weeks to be fully operational again.
It's the same thing in Russia.

A refinery is a very large infrastructure, a drone can only touch a small part of it.
Anonymous (ID: ZBCW9fNA) No.519324672 >>519324774 >>519324823 >>519325373
>>519323695
Ukraine didn't start this war, Russia did, because they wanted the Ukraine. Ukraine was not given a choice aside from whether to fight, or surrender.

Ukraine didn't choose any of this, it was forced upon them by a larger country seeking to annex theirs by force. When someone breaks into your home and tries to take everything from you, fighting back doesn't make you the bad guy, nor does it justify anything the guy breaking in does after you decide to fight back.

And last I checked they haven't lost anything, the war goes on, and they're giving it as good as their getting it or better. If not, this thing would have been over after a few weeks.

Ukraine didn't deem any of this acceptable, their options were to fight to survive or lay down and die, that's not a choice, that's just trying to stay alive in the face of a threat that wants you dead so it can take everything you leave behind.

>>519323327
god you got rocks the size of G cups in your ears, not my fault you can't read between the lines
Anonymous (ID: JPmUCIrl) United States No.519324709
>>519324067
what's the angle on canceling elections and still being there despite his term expiring?
Anonymous (ID: 2NVigmSE) United States No.519324711 >>519324810 >>519324975
>>519295498 (OP)
Kek WTF is going on?
Anonymous (ID: D58cRQHi) United States No.519324774 >>519325000 >>519325777 >>519325882
>>519324672
>ukraine didn't start this war
yes they did
and theyve been 'offensive' since 2017
Anonymous (ID: D58cRQHi) United States No.519324810
>>519324711
ukraine is losing all of a sudden
no one could have seen this coming
Anonymous (ID: PeSRVrZ5) United States No.519324823
>>519324672
Anonymous (ID: b0lOJbYT) United States No.519324910 >>519325299
>>519295498 (OP)
What stage of winning is this for Ukraine?
Anonymous (ID: 1iKDU428) Germany No.519324972
>>519295965
>has no cards
i am the card
Anonymous (ID: 4zwXMmDk) Australia No.519324975 >>519325271 >>519325408
>>519324711
The conflict started as a cheap way for the US to bother Russia and drain its resources.
But Russia turned the turntables and now it's US resources being drained by supporting Ukraine in a war it can't win.

Nothing worked to stop Russia. Not the sanctions, not the wunderwaffles, not the "summer offensive" in the south, not the Kursk suicide mission...
Anonymous (ID: b0lOJbYT) United States No.519325000
>>519324774
People act like you couldnt see tons of Ukrainians in trenches firing into Donetsk on bestgore years ago. Shows how ignorant shills are or how young they are.
Anonymous (ID: YhZElidA) United Kingdom No.519325028
>>519295498 (OP)
>people familiar with the matter
Anonymous (ID: b0lOJbYT) United States No.519325100 >>519325262
>>519311153
Tell me more of these "gas shortages". Can we see them?
Anonymous (ID: G7wS2wz7) United States No.519325132
>>519295608
>Trump is literally the only person in the world trying to save Ukrainian lives.

Zelensky wants to drag every white Christian into a meat-wagon while the Jews carve out a new micro-state in West Ukr, /pol/ called it day 1 of the War and like the saying goes, /pol/ is always right
Anonymous (ID: jcEcNyio) No.519325183
>>519295608
Ya really think Trump cares for Ukraine?
Anonymous (ID: NccG1wK9) United States No.519325249
>>519311877
You losers sound so desperate LOL. Stop raping kids and sucking off Jews, pedo.
Anonymous (ID: KuOQWgrT) United States No.519325262
>>519325100
Shills dont understand supply and demand
Anonymous (ID: b0lOJbYT) United States No.519325271 >>519325408
>>519324975
Kursk was a modern war disaster. Literally may seal Ukraine's fate because nobody has seen the Russian demands. There may be none offered anymore since Ukraine would just use the time to rearm. Nobody would risk that being on the border.
Anonymous (ID: D58cRQHi) United States No.519325299
>>519324910
>What stage of winning is this for ukraine?
Anonymous (ID: sIxC/U44) United States No.519325344 >>519325536
>>519324585
You're just wrong but ok.
Anonymous (ID: KuOQWgrT) United States No.519325373
>>519324672
Just go away tranny faggot shill.
Nobody cares
Anonymous (ID: D58cRQHi) United States No.519325408 >>519325563 >>519325601 >>519326493
>>519324975
>not the Kursk suicide mission...
>>519325271
>Kursk was a modern war disaster.

Zelensky himself on the kursk nuclear objective:
https://files.catbox.moe/ht1lmt.mp4
>"Russia thinks they are very strong, but if we wanted to occupy their nuclear powerstation, we would do it" we COULD do it, but we never wanted to, because we understand what this would mean, that we would be the same as Russia"
ukraine has had an entire "vietnam"-scale DLC side-war in kursk where:
>67,000+ ukrainians killed in ~8 months in kursk
>7,000+ pieces of armor
by comparison,
*the US lost roughly ~52,000 killed in Vietnam over ~7 years
ukraine had a 'generation changing' 'vietnam' in kursk,
over tik-tok views at a nuclear power plant that never happened
https://archive.ph/PsfDQ
Anonymous (ID: VzWXZ60Z) Australia No.519325533
>>519296880
> to be replaced with somalians and pajeets
When are the pajeets scheduled to be sent to the frontlines to die for israel?
Anonymous (ID: D58cRQHi) United States No.519325536 >>519325684
>>519325344
>You're just wrong but ok.
no seriously,
nato could have never forced a "no fly zone" over ukraine against Russia in its wildest dream

the end you faggot nigger retard

THE
END

>if nato could have, it would have
but they couldnt, and its basically the reason ukraine got slaughtered (all nato doctrine is predicated on air supremecy)
Anonymous (ID: NDc1DZLS) United States No.519325538 >>519325664 >>519327350
>>519295498 (OP)
yeah he's done it before but putin keeps coming with unrealistic demands like land he didn't even conquer yet
Anonymous (ID: b0lOJbYT) United States No.519325563
>>519325408
It was more than losses as bad as those were. Basically their one shot at a "victory" was war weariness. So turtle up and defend heavily the invasion into Russia basically emboldened support as now the population of Russia was motivated for war. It also means Russia has no reason to stop until ukraine collapses as they are now a "threat". Even though they only took some fucking border village.
Anonymous (ID: KuOQWgrT) United States No.519325601 >>519325889
>>519325408
He was going to hold all of the EU hostage if he took that plant.
Anonymous (ID: KuOQWgrT) United States No.519325664 >>519325813
>>519325538
Ok faggot
Lies on the internet wont help your globohomo masters
Cope harder
Anonymous (ID: sIxC/U44) United States No.519325684 >>519325756
>>519325536
Cause Nato didnt enforce a no fly/go zone in Iraq for years. Stop jacking to anime and read a book... YLRF
Anonymous (ID: b0lOJbYT) United States No.519325756 >>519325997
>>519325684
>Thinks Iraq and Ukraine are the same
LMAO.
Anonymous (ID: ZBCW9fNA) No.519325777 >>519325846 >>519325946
>>519324774
no they didn't, Russia started it by annexing Crimea back in 2014, Ukraine opposed that and ousted the pro Russian president, after that came the Donbas war, Russia backed the separatists, gave them hardware, weapons, and troops disguised as separatists, that turned into a proxy push n pull game where Russia was the one doing the supplying that lasted till this turned into a full scale invasion in 2022.

This war was not Ukraine's doing, it was Russia's.

Do you mean to tell me that when Russia moved in and annexed a chunk of their country, and said "this is ours now, deal with it" that because Ukraine replied "no go fuck yourself, we're taking that back" and then proceeded to do so, that somehow makes this war their doing?

Whatever you've been smoking must be pretty good stuff if that's the case.

Also how does Ukraine going on the offensive in 2017 factor into any of this? Russia took Crimea by force, Ukraine fought back, ergo Russia started it, not the Ukraine.
Anonymous (ID: NDc1DZLS) United States No.519325813
>>519325664
What did I lie about?
Everything I posted is easily found online are you stupid or are you just a shill?
Anonymous (ID: b0lOJbYT) United States No.519325846 >>519326043 >>519326402
>>519325777
Crimes wanted to secede after 1996 and 2005 so you are either leaving stuff out for purposes or don't have a clue what you are talking about.
Anonymous (ID: NDc1DZLS) United States No.519325882 >>519325929 >>519326236
>>519324774
>ukraine started the war
>posts gif of ukraine saying they will respond to russian agression
God why are russhills so retarded?
Anonymous (ID: D58cRQHi) United States No.519325889 >>519326015
>>519325601
>He was going to hold all of the EU hostage if he took that plant.

PRECISELY^ (the london plan)

ukraines stated objective was to seize the Kursk nuclear power plant (Kursk NPP) to use it as 'nuclear blackmail' against Russia during "negotiations"
the idea was, ukraine would seize the plant, then demand Russia give everything back to the 1991 borders, immediately leave their territory, to extradite Putin and "Putins regime" to the hague, then 'demilitarize' and balkanize Russia
(this isnt a 'joke' either)
>OR ELSE
the plant would be destroyed, spreading radioactive contamination on Russian soil (Russia would be blamed anyway)
the entire Kursk campaign was supposed to conclude with capturing the nuclear plant to secure the "asymmetric" nuclear threat, since ukraine doesnt have nukes

this was during the whole faggot /k/ nigger phase when the "budapest memorandum" was being flouted as some kind binding agreement the "west" made with ukraine, when in fact it was nothing of the sort at all
Anonymous (ID: D58cRQHi) United States No.519325929 >>519326043
>>519325882
ukraine started the war in 2014
Anonymous (ID: G7wS2wz7) United States No.519325946
>>519325777
>Russia started it by annexing Crimea back in 2014

The start of the War is widely known as the Odessa Fire, where Ukraine ultra-natsoc's chased Russian citizens into a building and massacred them, Crimea happened soon after and rest is history

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEWUADkyIiA
Anonymous (ID: sIxC/U44) United States No.519325997 >>519326073
>>519325756
Cause a no fly zone is so unique to the coutry...
open book... open mind...see reality
YLRF
Anonymous (ID: IymKqcm8) No.519326008
>>519295498 (OP)
Zelenskys ego is going to bring down the nation and not to mention keep getting thousands killed for no reason other than being an idiot with his chest puffed.

I real leader would do what's best for the people not their own ambition.

Ukraine is simply outmatched and it doesn't matter how long they fight they just won't win. One mans pride is getting thousands killed i just can't understand it
Anonymous (ID: b0lOJbYT) United States No.519326015 >>519326472
>>519325889
I mean the reactor was in cold shutdown. Unless they knew what to do they couldn't do much. Just breaking a fuel rod isn't going to contaminate much nor is it easy to do.
Anonymous (ID: NDc1DZLS) United States No.519326043 >>519326132 >>519326368 >>519326472
>>519325846
No there was a small population that wanted to secede while the majority of people wanted to stay but that doesn't matter because they aren't just allowed to secede

>>519325929
this was the response to russian war attacks dude but hey, gas shortages, raising taxes, and a million dead is worth taking a tiny piece of land I guess
Anonymous (ID: b0lOJbYT) United States No.519326073 >>519326211
>>519325997
It's unique to your enemy you dumbass. A fucking rebel group with no country or arms is not the same as if fucking Germany bulldozed into France. Germany is a lot fucking harder to enforce a no fly zone on.
Anonymous (ID: mBaA+40h) Canada No.519326074
>>519297169
You don't get it the project has failed and Ukraine is now more baggage than it's worth it doesn't really matter if Russia starts shit with Ukraine in particular down the line because it no longer serves a purpose. What benefits they did get out of this such as severing euro-russian diplomatic and economic cooperation plus adding Scandinavia to NATO is already done and in the past there's nothing more they can squeeze out of the situation now so a peace deal where Russia only get's the four oblasts and Ukraine has to concede on NATO is the best possible outcome the longer this goes on from here the worse the outcome will eventually be for them and the worse that the loss will reflect on the west.
Anonymous (ID: b0lOJbYT) United States No.519326132 >>519326347
>>519326043
95% speak Russian. So small group lmao. Even google doesn't back that statement up. Ukraine even understood that because they attacked civilians there. Odd they want to attack people who want to go to them no?
Anonymous (ID: O/bhUwkc) United States No.519326192
>>519297595
Damn Russia has got some pro gamers. Holy fuck those look like some chink PCs 0 latency ones I've been hearing about.
Anonymous (ID: sIxC/U44) United States No.519326211 >>519326379
>>519326073
I'd argue with you but you're too dumb so we'll leave it at that... YLRF
Anonymous (ID: KuOQWgrT) United States No.519326236 >>519326347
>>519325882
Russia agreed to just keep the 8% they took in 2014 faggot. Zelensky walked away from peace talks.
Everyone knows you are a faggot spreading disinfo
Anonymous (ID: PoQhdRnN) United States No.519326251
>>519295498 (OP)
Based
>>519295608
True
Anonymous (ID: NDc1DZLS) United States No.519326347 >>519326468 >>519326537
>>519326132
Speaking a language doesn't make you suddenly want to join the country it originates dude
When Russia annexed Crimea in March 2014, it organized a referendum under military occupation.
Official Russian results claimed 96.7% voted to join Russia, with a turnout of 83%.
The vote was held under Russian military control with no independent observers.
The UN, OSCE, and most Western nations declared it illegitimate.
An internal Russian government report leaked later suggested real turnout was 30–50%, and only about half of those supported joining Russia β€” meaning maybe 15–30% of the population total.

>>519326236
no you
Anonymous (ID: KuOQWgrT) United States No.519326368 >>519326665
>>519326043
>gas shortages, raising taxes, and a million dead is worth taking a tiny piece of land I guess
Gas is cheap as fuck in Russia right now, zero shortages.
Raising Taxes is still being debated
200k dead max
You are a massive faggot
Anonymous (ID: b0lOJbYT) United States No.519326379
>>519326211
Didn't do a no fly zone anyways so you must be the sole war genius of the west. Lmao. I KNEEL.
Anonymous (ID: REl8k7Ju) New Zealand No.519326384
>>519296880
I am afraid its already too late.
The damage to Ukraine has already been done. Population devastated. Up to their fucking eyeballs in debt forever. They are a fuckboi now regardless of what happens, regardless of who is in charge. They will accept tens of millions of 3rd world immigrants at the demands of the western masters, who want some payback for all those billions in aid.
Anonymous (ID: ZBCW9fNA) No.519326402
>>519325846
I've heard that in passing but I don't know much beyond the 2014 point where Russia annexed Crimea, and if Crimea wanted to secede, then why did they end up ousting their pro-Russian president afterwards? How was Crimea going about trying to secede, did they have a way of doing so legitimately? Im asking because I don't know much about how the Ukraine's political systems work, nor what sort of country they considered themselves to be, some types of countries are confederated and so there's legitimate means for states or regions to secede if they want to beyond just blatantly declaring themselves to no longer be a part of the greater whole.

I've also heard stuff about backdoor dealings, corruption, and pro-Russian supporters constantly stirring up more trouble than necessary while being equipped with resources and hardware you can only get by having backing from a large countries military, though I gotta admit from here my knowledge is sporadic at best.

All I know for sure is that Crimea was occupied and annexed by russia, and after that it was game on. Does this conflict go back further than the annex in 2014? if so how far back do I need to read up?
Anonymous (ID: 4zh6/x66) United States No.519326457 >>519326634
Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson, and Zaporizhzhia have been written into the Russian constitution for 3 years now. Putin was never going to give that up. He probably wants Odessa too after his black sea fleet got wrecked.

It's a shame that they couldn't have resolved this diplomatically years ago. This was always going to be the result.
Anonymous (ID: b0lOJbYT) United States No.519326468 >>519326706 >>519326868
>>519326347
You dumbass the tartars were the Ukraine support group. They were miniscule because they were deported in the 1940s. A few came back in 1991 but it was MINISCULE in comparison to the Russian group You are so fucking wrong and don't know a single thing about the area
Anonymous (ID: D58cRQHi) United States No.519326472 >>519326868
>>519326015
>I mean the reactor was in cold shutdown. Unless they knew what to do they couldn't do much. Just breaking a fuel rod isn't going to contaminate much nor is it easy to do.

ukraine (london) loves atrocity attacks and trying to force "red line" escalations

>>519326043
>ukraine lost 1.7 million men over a tiny piece of land
grim
Anonymous (ID: /CFqwVZN) Russian Federation No.519326493
>>519325408
hey, at least they looted hotdogs from a local grocery store
Anonymous (ID: KuOQWgrT) United States No.519326537
>>519326347
>The vote was held under Russian military control with no independent observers.

You are a lying piece of shit

>https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/international-observers-find-crimean-referendum-strongly-and-voluntarily-supported-by-the-crimean-people-250658201.html

>A group of international observers from Israel, Spain, Italy, USA, UK, Latvia, Moldova and Serbia, which were invited by the Central Electoral Commission of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea, visited the largest cities of Crimea - Simferopol, Yalta, Evpatoria, Alushta, Saki, as well as many villages in the countryside.
Anonymous (ID: pnNdEiQn) South Korea No.519326539
>>519299316
>>519299383
Get out of my country you little subhuman rat.
Anonymous (ID: s1cbn9SB) United States No.519326589
>>519295498 (OP)
No shit, that's been obvious for a while now. Ridiculous we're still wasting time and resources on that shithole.
Anonymous (ID: b0lOJbYT) United States No.519326634
>>519326457
The sea fleet they wrecked that keeps firing missiles at them.
Anonymous (ID: 3VHnkBQo) Australia No.519326648
>>519319256
>memeflag
jew
Anonymous (ID: NDc1DZLS) United States No.519326665 >>519326773
>>519326368
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TO3NvGc_W7M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkE4m7Z5aeA
Nice try faggot
Anonymous (ID: KuOQWgrT) United States No.519326706 >>519326806
>>519326468
You faggots just make shit up
Tatars moved back to Crimea after the canal was built in the 70s in massive numbers.

You shills are fucking retards
Anonymous (ID: KuOQWgrT) United States No.519326773 >>519326868
>>519326665
Not watching tranny faggot
Gas is cheap there
Cope and seethe
Anonymous (ID: b0lOJbYT) United States No.519326806 >>519326994
>>519326706
Maybe you can read better I didn't say exile ended in 1991 I said a few moved back. Cool thing about words they make more sense when you understand them. They were a miniscule faction. Dwarfed by the Russian group.
Anonymous (ID: NDc1DZLS) United States No.519326868 >>519327192
>>519326468
you are actually wrong and making up shit because you are some shill you thinks russia is some haven

>>519326472
the estimate i found was 400k

>>519326773
lmao I accept your concession just like ukraine will when it wins and takes back crimea and a bit extra from russia to teach them a lesson
Anonymous (ID: cY8VS0ai) United States No.519326918
>>519295498 (OP)
>>519295608
Zelenskyy wants Russia to fuck off. It makes sense, they can just leave. Giving them land is rewarding their bad behavior.
Anonymous (ID: KuOQWgrT) United States No.519326994 >>519327057
>>519326806
If the exile ended in 1991 why did they move back in the 1970s?
Are you that much of a retard?
Anonymous (ID: b0lOJbYT) United States No.519327057 >>519327737
>>519326994
Because the ussr collapsed dumbass.
Anonymous (ID: D58cRQHi) United States No.519327192 >>519327291
>>519326868
>the estimate i found was 400k
ukraine has over 1.7 million killed from the afu and 3x that mutilated


14 ukrainians are killed for every 1 Russian
(/k/ niggers were tricked into shilling the opposite for weeks untill they found out)
Anonymous (ID: IexGYL/L) Brazil No.519327245
>>519305917
What's even the European dream? Thought crime and 50% income tax?
Anonymous (ID: NDc1DZLS) United States No.519327291
>>519327192
sucks to be Ukrainian i guess
Anonymous (ID: W3I1Tp3h) Switzerland No.519327350 >>519327735
>>519325538
>putin keeps coming with unrealistic demands like land he didn't even conquer yet
How is that unrealistic if continuing to fight will inevitably lead to putin getting everything?
Anonymous (ID: b0lOJbYT) United States No.519327735
>>519327350
The four regions were asked for in last negotiation. It was 2 and Crimea in the first round it will be more now. Ukrainians don't learn from mistakes.
Anonymous (ID: KuOQWgrT) United States No.519327737 >>519327884
>>519327057
Looked it up
They let like a total of 20,000 move back in waves in the 70s and 80s and the ban was lifted in 1989 and 220,000 moved back.
Oh well they cooperated with Hitler so...
Anonymous (ID: H6NysDAB) United States No.519327844 >>519328247
>>519295498 (OP)
The US and Russia should be best fucking bros - instead of Israel. It just makes sense, and is a hedge against China, but no.. we have to alienate every country on earth and turn them against us.
Anonymous (ID: b0lOJbYT) United States No.519327884
>>519327737
At least you were refilling to add context to it. The Russian group vastly out numbered them and they were excusing issues and we're persecuted for it. some say "unjustly" but really a lot of uprising sin crimea had them behind it so the Russian group wanted them out. They never became a majority again. Which is why Ukraine never hesitates to attack them because Ukraine knows they are Russian not the tartar group.
Anonymous (ID: Z3RcpVR6) United States No.519328155
>>519298421
That's one way to interpret the situation and its not without merit.
Anonymous (ID: G7wS2wz7) United States No.519328247 >>519328421
>>519327844
>The US and Russia should be best fucking bros

It is natural considering USA is the heir to Greko-Roman civilization and they were generally friendly to Russians
Anonymous (ID: Z3RcpVR6) United States No.519328409
>>519303323
>Yep just give 25% of your territory
The Russian 25% that Ukraine was bombing, yes.
Anonymous (ID: D58cRQHi) United States No.519328421
>>519328247
>It is natural considering USA is the heir to Greko-Roman civilization

funny you mention that^
Russia has the actual "mandate" of being Rome (by way of last daughter of Roman empire before it fell who married a RUS)

which makes the london jew cabal seeth so hard they can hardly keep from tearing their own hair out...as a result this cabal has been warring against Russia around the "20's" of every century for the past 400 or so years and counting, non stop

>pic related
he started it, and london kikes will *NEVER* end it lololol
Anonymous (ID: EYDMifg7) United States No.519329047
>>519307259
>and how did trump get money to become a billionaire? where did money come from to make him a billionaire??
For fuck’s sake…why do people with Trump Derangement Syndrome not believe that Trump is rich? He was rich as a baby when he was put in his father’s payroll at $100K per year. He bragged about how he got his start in real estate with a β€œsmall loan of a million dollars” from his father. He rode the incline of the Manhattan real estate market. He got immense publicity and hundreds of millions of dollars from his hit TV show.
If he was a Soviet/Russian agent, then he would have been the highest-paid one in history all based on the remote chance that he becomes a politicians? You are a dumb Polack, did your mother ever tell you?
Anonymous (ID: EYDMifg7) United States No.519329342
>>519308717
> AND WHERE DID HE GET MONEY TO BUY ALL THE REAL ESTATE YOU RETARDED NIGGER???
>Money doenst fall from sky
He got over $400 million from his father. https://apnews.com/article/0452d29cd2564eaf97605ab90acc3a67
And he borrowed over two billion just from one bank (who knows how many others).
Anonymous (ID: EYDMifg7) United States No.519329456
>>519309188
>What will happen to zelensky after the war?
He’s going to flee to Israel and live high off the hog on money he stole from Western aid to the Ukraine.
Anonymous (ID: 0XHr9Iov) Estonia No.519329713
>>519308939
I don't see Europe offering free passage for all Ukrainian citizens to the safety of EU countries. All they are doing is funding weapons purchases so Ukraine can keep fighting. What is the inevitable outcome of fighting to the last man? Well, you'll have no man left.