Thread 519594859

What has Russia gained from this war that it couldn’t have achieved BEFORE?

They fight for BBC, please understand.

Russian men are far hotter though.

>>519594859 (OP)
finally killing muttgroids
>>519595152
>american
>immediately mentions nigger dicks
like pottery

>>519595351
Man, those cheeks, he's hitting the wall FAST

>>519594859 (OP)
Ukraine is historically Russian and did not exist.

>>519595470
There is a recorded sovereign republic of Ukraine which existed before the Soviet Union was formed and was absorbed into it upon it's creation.
So Ukraine did exist, and predates the current era of russian commie society.

>>519595470
Your knowledge of history doesn't exist

>>519595470
USA is historically British and did not exist

>>519595411
It's she sir

>>519594859 (OP)
New regions, are you dumb?

>>519595683
Show me where "Ukraine" exists prior to 1917. Ukraine was literally invented by Poland and the Austro-Hungarian empire. Ukraine means "borderland". What country would call itself borderland? border of what?

Also Ukrainianism and Ukrainian nationalism is ONLY from the part of Ukraine that was under the Austro-Hungarian empire. Same with the language, an east slavic dialect the rest of Ukraine does not speak.

>>519594859 (OP)
But to their credit, very few people expected Ukraine to defend itself. Starting "special military operation" was a gamble, but odds were on Russian side.

The way it played out, Russia just lost - it gained nothing that it couldn't without this shitshow. Even getting political control Georgia-style is off the table until every Ukrainian who remembers this war, dies.

>>519596466
Also I should mention that parts the territory of modern Ukraine were on the border of the then Russian empire before being integrated. This doesn't mean it was Ukraine, as Ukraine or the idea of a Ukraine didn't even exist. It was basically east slavs who were formerly part of Rus and the west bordered Poland and territories it held, however modern day western Poland was actually part of Kievan Rus.

t. knower

>>519595932
Based Primordial Truth enjoyer.

>>519596466
Every nation in the world is fake and was made up at some point. Your entire argument is invalid.

Its about mutual destruction for everyone except globocommies and weapon merchants on all sides. Normies gain nothing. Even the salaries of Russian zogbots are about on the level of a Finnish warehouse worker or a cleaner. Grim.

>>519596558
8 million russians dont have to live under banderite scum and jewish nato trannies. thats what was achieved besides the ukroshitstain not entering nato and always being under threat of anudda shoah if they fafo

>>519594859 (OP)
More land.
Thats all this war was ever about.

>>519596740
Mental illness: the post.

>>519596706
>retardio ad absurdum
Ukraine traces it's history, religion, identity and statehood to RUS.

Also based open borders we are one race planet earth post.

>>519596786
No, it's not. If it was about more land, pypa would have taken Trump's offer and stopped at current frontlines. But he won't, becasue that won't lead to regime change in Kyiv and the political subjugation of Ukraine which is russia's real goal.

>>519594859 (OP)
I need the one with the iranian mullah.

>>519596590
> were on the border of the then Russian empire before being integrated
Fun fact all territories that were integrated into any empire were on border of that empire. Smolensk? Borderlands of Poland. Moscow? Borderlands of Mongolian empire

>>519596859
>Ukraine traces it's history, religion, identity and statehood to RUS.
Kyivan Rus, which was not russia. Please consult the graph.

>>519595351
i love how much she looks like me but i would never act like such a slut

>>519596883
Of course its about land to the chosen people. What do you think Novorossiya ia supposed to turn out like with declining Russian demographics?

>>519596951
I'm sorry, I don't speak schizo.

>>519596831
uh oh nafo melty inbound

>>519596466
>Show me where "Ukraine" exists prior to 1917.
It literally existed long before British colonies in America formed United States. Ruthenians who lived there were fighting for their independence, but nobody in right mind would say that Ukraine itself wasn't separate thing (even if conquered by someone else).

In it's earliest form, it obviously wasn't part of Moscovia, just like Moscovia wasn't incarnation of Kievan Rus in any shape or form.

>>519596998
Its not even a secret memeflaggot. Look up Igor Berkut.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=hkU6Zg7RwL0

Belters, assemble!

>>519597044
>>519597070
>>519597078

>>519596945
gay ass faggot

>>519597058
this is a map of absolutely nothing real

>>519595351
Thats a Turk

>>519597180
It's as real as your virginity.

>>519596942
Nah I ain't buying that, you're saying the trees didn't grow an inch over a hundred years?

>>519596929
The areas of southern Ukraine were known as the "wild fields" as well, it was sort of like their version of the wild west.

>>519596942
Pic related

>>519596740
That's how Zelensky became their president. However Russian government can't stand Russian president of Ukraine that is independent from Kremlin.

>>519597218
Clearly CIPSO propaganda. The Mongol conquest was also made up in Dovzhenko studios, kek.

>>519597058
im not seeing donbas as part of any shartkraine in your map. it also says muscoviti kiovia for east of dnepr, yikes, looks like it was always russia and zelenoid jews and pshenaningas dont get to change that history

>>519597232
Can't see Moscow on that map(

>>519597058
>Ukraine existed
>Modern Ukrainian symbol "Tryzhub" or "Trident" is actually a Rurikid crest. Ukraine never existed in the 1600's. Are we now saying there was a rival nation between the Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth/Poland and the the Russia/Muscovy/Russian Empire?

>>519597245
why would he need to say that? someone was trying to oppress russians or something? denying them their language?

>>519597348
Do you know how far east Ryazan is? All the cities around Moscow are there, Moscow was a small trading post that became larger near the latter years of the Kievan Rus period. This is now geographic illiteracy as well.

>>519597058
>Ukraine existed
>Modern Ukrainian symbol "Tryzhub" or "Trident" is actually a Rurikid crest.
Ukraine never existed in the 1600's. Are we now saying there was a rival nation between the Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth/Poland and the the Russia/Muscovy/Russian Empire?

>>519597217
9postmemefaggot

opinion discarded into the trash where you belong

>>519597422
oh thats right. in ukraine where ukrainians are 80% of the populaton, they are the oppressed ones. 20% russians managed to oppress ukroniggers democratically by voting. lmao. the cia-est of all cia fairytales

>>519597245
> how Zelensky became their president.

A POLITICIAN LIED TO WIN AN ELECTION
I AM SHOCKED, SHOCKED I TELLS YA


and his jewish lies lasted about a week.

>>519597665
>in ukraine where ukrainians are 80% of the populaton,

typical ignorant murrifat lie

>>519597180
It absolutely doesn't matter what you believe. In parliamentary constitution of Rzeczpospolita (1590) Ukraine was literally named "Ukraina" - name that is traced back to 12th century documents (even when state of Kievan Rus still existed).

>>519597847
>Ukraine existed during Kievan Rus
>We invented Ukraine, another supposed independent state, when we wrote something once
Neither of these make sense and the second one is completely logically incoherent.

>>519597847
You shouldn't even bother dude, you are arguing with retarded americans who try to educate you about shit that happened right in our "neighbourhood" at times when their shithole country didn't even exist yet.

>>519594859 (OP)
>>Russia = Nigeria with snow.
>>I'm a fucking russian Nigger, I'm going to fucking kill you and then take your land.

>>519595470
>Ukraine is historically Russian and did not exist.
What on earth has your comment to do with Russia being run by third world nigger-chimps??

>>519596466
>Show me where "Ukraine" exists prior to 1917.
As Danish clay Iceland didn't exist prior to 1918 - do you recommend Denmark's government to meat-grind us Danes and kill off the Icelanders and steal their country?

>>519597422
>someone was trying to oppress russians or something? denying them their language?
Pretty much like niggers are "oppressed" in US, so there's a need for political organizations like Black Lives Matter.

>>519598091
The entire idea of a "Ukraine" never even existed until the late 1800s and the entire Ukrainian language is based on the books of a fiction author named Taras Shevchenko who wrote in the late 1800s. I'm not kidding you. It's all made up.

Historically they were called "Ruthenians" meaning "Rus". The Pole even said so his other post. This is so extremely retarded it's unreal.

>>519595351
strong shoulders on this dude
>>519594859 (OP)
it's not about the gains. It's about sending the message

>>519594859 (OP)
Putin got to stay in power and crack down on dissent. That was the whole point. Russians were starting to want someone new and protesting about corruption in like 2011-2014 until Putin took Crimea, then again he had to shake things up with the 2022 invasion before the russians got bored and expected better

>>519595470
>>519595683
>There is a recorded sovereign republic of Ukraine
no. They briefly established something after war with Poland in 1918
But generally there was no Ukraine through the history

That's not to say there were no Ukrainians. They were. They were just under influence of Poland or Russia. Personally I think they should have their own containment zone, as the savages they are. It's Ruskie fault for giving them this much of land. No take backsies now, faggot pidors.

>>519597232
my ancestors

>>519597540
>Ukraine never existed in the 1600's.
Parts of Rzeczpospolita that were historical Kievan Rus were officially named Ukraine since 1590.
>Russia/Muscovy/Russian Empire?
You mean: Golden Horde/Muscovy/Russian Empire

Only connection between first Ruthenian/Russian (Ruthenia literally means Ruś in Slavic) state (Kievan Rus) and Moscovia is dynasty of Rurikids. Moscovia wasn't continuation of Kievan Rus just like Spain isn't continuation of Austria (because of Habsburg dynasty).

I'm saying there were Ruthenians in Ukraine who wanted independence from Poland/Lithuania in 17th century and beyond. Just because they wanted that independence doesn't mean they were Moscovians by any mean.

>>519598184
>The 2012 law On the principles of the State language policy [uk; ru] granted regional language status to Russian and other minority languages. It allowed the use of minority languages in courts, schools and other government institutions in areas of Ukraine where the national minorities exceed 10% of the population.[1][2] The 2012 law was supported by the governing Party of Regions and opposed by the opposition parties, who argued that the law undermined the role of the Ukrainian language, violated Article 10 of the Constitution,[2][3][4] and was adopted with an irregular procedure.[5][6] Immediately after the 2014 Ukrainian revolution, on 23 February 2014, the Ukrainian Parliament voted to repeal the law. This decision was vetoed by the acting President Turchynov.[7][8] In October 2014, the Constitutional Court started reviewing the constitutionality of the 2012 law[9] and declared it unconstitutional on 28 February 2018

uh oh stinky. looks like russians dont have to abide by the niggerations of banderites cos mommy russia is around to protecc them

What they've gained is one thing, but WHY they've decided to gain it this way is more important. The chaos of the modern era doesn't stem primarily from Russian retardation- they choreograph all their moves long in advance and put you to sleep by explaining their interests and justifications for two hours. No, It stems from how feminine & childish the west is.
Women and children are notorious for doing shit like: poking you and then insisting that they're not poking you. Being nice to your face, and then talking shit behind your back. Making an agreement with you, and then casually doing something else as if the agreement never happened. Acting like YOU are the bad guy for expecting her to hold up her end of the bargain. This is all what western leadership has been doing for 30 years. NATO tweets about how they're the avengers fighting thanos or some shit, and Iran makes fun of us for having spiderman and spongebob as our heroes. Our women binge watch netflix and get the idea in their head that they can beat up an average man. Goofy Indians run the entire tech sector. America is not a serious country.
In the western workplace, HR women interview people as if they're swiping on tinder. They do the same thing when they're in political power. Except Russia and China aren't some beta male simps they can whip around, they're more like high IQ dark triad autists! We replaced Orange Man with Brandon to "be nice" to the world in 2020, and that was about as wise as dragging a razor across your forehead swimming in shark-infested waters. George Floyd, open borders, covid, Afghanistan, all sent a clear message to the world: Do whatever you want, because we're retarded!
When a feminist is playing chess with a stoic man and the feminist keeps making up new rules and doing whatever she wants with the pieces, eventually the man will say fuck it and start throwing his own pieces at her. And here are!

>>519596942
Rurik came from Novgorod.

>>519597348
Can't see Kyyyyv either, strange.

>>519594859 (OP)
why do mutts thinks they are so much different than niggers and ruzzki?

>>519598059
It's really simple if you're not retarded: Ukraina was Polish name for this territory, even when Kievan Rus existed on it. When Kievan Rus ceased to exist name sticked. With time Ruthenians who lived there started calling themselves "Ukrainians" to differentiate themselves from other Ruthenian people (e.g. Moscovites).
>>519598082
>You shouldn't even bother dude, you are arguing with retarded americans
It think it's just vpnigger. One way or another he might learn something.

>>519598277
Are all or any other countries "made up", or have you been told it's just Ukraine?

But the topic was solely Russia being run by third world Nigger-chimps and Islam-simps, so just answer my 2 simple questions:
>>519598091

>>519598493
Because Poland again tried to take land. This is right after the Volyn boogaloo which makes your argument more ridiculous.

>they were always under the influence of
They were always part of Russia and the history here is that Poland has sought to take the land. When the mongol invasion happened, Poland comes in to take the land.

>>519594859 (OP)
Can't a couple of vodka brained ruskies have a little fun in nignogland without anyone asking why?

>>519598082
>doesnt know an italian flag
>muh neighbourhood
aint you supposed to roman and not a steppe nigger volgo-gyppoid? in your hood they teach bears to dance and theres lots of preggo teens

>>519598624
Naming a territory that isn't yours something doesn't actually mean anything.

To show how absolutely dishonest this is, why do "Ukrainians"
>Speak east slavic
>Are orthodox
>Were always part of Russia
Big mystery here. The Christianization of Kievan Rus was done by Vladimir the great (who also founded Vladimir in modern day Russia) who brought all his territory under Byzantine Christianity. Also there are other groups like "Rusyns" in Poland and Slovakia who also derive their name from RUS because they are Orthodox Christian Eastern Slavs because the historical borders and lands of Kievan Rus extended past the western border of Ukraine. You absolute lying degenerate.

>>519598776
Because we invent things like AI and advance humanity

>>519598926
stop babbling about things you've got no idea about, retard
Volyn was after Polish - Ukrainian war
that land was Polish for centuries. And was settled by mostly Poles. In your braindead nigger mind that excuses to undermine international resolutions, which granted the area to Poland, excuses the Ukrainian chimp out in 1918 and then it excuses their barbaric actions, which even chimpanzes would hesitate to do, in Wolyn
shut the fuck up, nigger

>>519594859 (OP)
another day another nafo troon cope thread xDDD

>>519598082
Crying and stomping your feet is not an argument.

>>519598924
Ukraine itself considers Taras Shevchenko the father of their language because he wrote in a vernacular that used Polish loan words because Poland ruled that area and Eastern Slavs their serfs. The Ukrainian Orthodox church didn't even exist until the 20th century because Ukraine never existed. Sure they were Orthodox before that that would be before attaching an artificial "Ukraine" label.

>>519595381
Russians actually do fight for BBC

>>519598776
lmao
Some photoshop anon can add kike to the list?

>>519599225
You know what my bad, the Volyn massacre was AFTER that. I thought there were atrocities beforehand too, because afterall, Poles did steal land, oppress them as serfs and actually were the last people in Europe to free their serfs. Poles in Austrian Galicia freed their Ukrainian serfs 10 years after Russia freed all it's serfs. The Austrian leadership also blamed the local Polish rulers for the region being poor and a shithole. So this is why actual REAL Banderist western "Ukrainians" hate and hated Poles too. You should mention that next time

Also Volyn was NEVER Polish, Poland began as a small state, smaller than it is now. Go back to Masovia you fucking vulture.
>Daniel of Galicia moved his capital to Chelm

>>519594859 (OP)
Does the nigger here represent the US?

>>519596466
>>519596590
russians lost WW1 and ukraine was created. shouldnt have lost. keep crying.

ukraine was then invaded in the 1920s imperialist commie wars. you are supporting russian imperialism again. what a faggy position to defend.

>>519595351
you have to be a closeted homosexual faggot if you think this literal 10/10 slavic princess is a Vlad or Stanislav

>>519599066
>Naming a territory that isn't yours something doesn't actually mean anything.
Naming a territory means it's considered a separate entity even by those who name it.
>Were always part of Russia
What is "Russia" exactly? Moscovia? Broader term of Ruthenia?

>>519599653
Who else could it be?

>>519594859 (OP)
cool drone pov gore of their own guys getting blow n to bits

>>519595381
You’re Kazakh. You can’t say a word. You’re literally a mongrel

>>519599638
>You know what my bad, the Volyn massacre was AFTER that. I thought there were atrocities beforehand too, because afterall, Poles did steal land, oppress them as serfs
you've proven yourself retarded once
no need to do it twice
just leave comprehending the history of europe to people with brain. History of Inuits might be more of your thing

>>519595470
Kiev existed before Puccia. Cope.

>>519600134
Actual Ukrainians went Unit 731 on you kek.

>>519599295
I only heard the name Ukraine when Tjernobyl leaked, and my knowledge of Asia in general is abysmal, so please don't keep on deflecting but just answer my three questions:
>>519598091
>>519598924

>>519594859 (OP)
Russian rich people become new Elite.
Kgb workers also become forever elites + tzar

Now whole country belongs to them.

>>519595351
are russian femboys the only trannies who can pass alongside thai femboys

>>519598739
Novgorod, which was genocided and culturally replaced by moscow?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_of_Novgorod

>>519600186
*cough* ruled by Novgorod *cough*

>>519597232
>chuds

>>519598693
impressive knowing fellow knower

>>519598776
The Rape Trinity

>>519594859 (OP)
They stopped jewlensky from bombing the donbas

>>519598776
Your country is a bot farm and drone park for Russians you subhuman Balt

>>519600133
>flag

>>519600947
Your country isn’t even fucking real, you gypsy Bulgarian. I don’t know whose flag you think you’re calling out with that children’s drawing of a sun

>>519600994
>>519600994
we all know youre not even white and your brown parents arrived recently, so quit acting tough on the internet mutt

>>519601070
I’m Old Stock and 100% white. My ancestors have been here since before America gained independence and moved from the Massachusetts colony, to Canada, and then back to America in the mid-1800s. I want all non-white people deported from the United States.

I don’t know why you’re attacking me, a Kazakh was calling for American deaths, calling us mutts, I pointed out that Kazakhs, as an ethnicity, are a mongrel people, you attack me for no reason, no you’re acting like I’m the bad guy.

I’m convinced all unprovoked hate directed at Americans on here is irrational

>>519598776
xD

Imagine being oinkrainian

>>519601230
hating jew golem amerimutts is completely rational

>>519594859 (OP)
>lost to Nigeria with snow
NATO moment

>>519601283
>It’s actually BASED to hate other white people because well, it just IS okay?

This is exactly what I’m talking about

>>519599066
> Were always part of Russia
How can you always be part of something that didn’t exist until 18th century?

>>519601376
white people who serve the jews*
ftfy

>>519601230
Nice one muttoid migger

>>519594859 (OP)
1. They now have a land bridge to important military bases in Crimea
2. They have nullified Victoria "jew war pig" Nuland's biolabs in Ukraine

>>519601618
>Mexican calling me a mutt
Get real
>>519601536
I DON’T support Israel though. Neither do most white Americans at this point. Public opinion towards Israel has changed more drastically in America than any other Western country in the 21st Century. This is exactly what I’m talking about. You convince yourself of a lie that support for Israel is unanimous or at least overwhelming amongst white Americans, and thereby justify calling for their death. That’s retarded. You are siding with a Kazakh calling for the death of whites, over a white person who you falsely claim is pro-Israel.

>>519601849
4 horsemen of apocalypses
kek

>>519601931
>Neither do most white Americans at this point
you don't know that

>>519595470
The united states is historically british and did not exist.

>>519600268
There are like quite a few very well known traps in russia who can pass, everyone else are as horrible as any western trap.

>>519601849
I think this list could be expanded by adding jeets.

>>519596859
You're the one arguing that countries don't exist though, vatnigger.

>>519594859 (OP)
I would agree if russian girls werent so hot

>>519602426
but jeets are to weak to kill. Only thing they are good at is shitting and attempted scamming

>>519596740
>>519597044
You are a diasporanigger. You fled russia and then continue nationalism from inside the great satan and headquarters of GAY TRANNY NAFO. Very embarrassing.

>>519594859 (OP)
>What has Russia gained from this war

Oil.

>>519596740
Azov did nothing wrong you tanker tranny subhuman

>>519601849
The list has potential to become bigger.
>>519602426
Also muzzies

>>519602554
The knife can be replaced with poo and kill with scam or taking job xDDD

>>519602267
>I think it’s okay to call for the death of white Americans because they’re pro-Israel
>No they’re not
>Uhhh well uhh how do you know it’s just a theory!”
See what I mean, you decided to hate in Americans one day because you found it funny, Americans pushed back, you got defensive, started looking for reasons to justify hating them, now you’re calling for the death of your fellow whites.

Let me explain something to you. America was the most powerful nation and completely unchallenged for most of the 20th Century. We never had Jews in any significant number. An absolutely unprecedented number of Jews came in to the point that roughly half the planet’s Jews live here. Americans had no Jews before and therefore no experience and were subjected to the most extensive (and expensive) mass disinformation propaganda campaign in all of human history and managed to wake up to it in under a century. The Jew’s master plan for an eternal, unwavering ally destroyed by their own arrogance. No other country was relevant and inexperienced enough for Jews to spend so much time on it.

So where’s your applause for your fellow whites in America who have now awakened are shaking off this parasite? Do you have any praise for them? Any sympathy for those who were brainwashed and mislead? Can you say you wouldn’t have fallen for it if you and your entire country were subjected to it from a young age?

Or is all you have more disdain for your fellow whites? In this regard, you are just as, if not more Jewish in nature than any American who ever supported Israel at one time.

>uhg troon thread
Why can't you faggots stay in your containment thread?

>>519602426
how's this

>>519603176
It's true this fuckers don't care they will update our windows.

>>519603176
>how's this
Very antisemitic and brahim-fobic

>>519594859 (OP)
>What has Russia gained
Chronic disease called Hruckraine is being cured.

Stupid and docile hohols allowed jews to turn them into bioweapons against Russia, by rallying them through nationalistic hysteria. Now, after biological cleaning Hruckraine will get rid of stupid and docile hohols who allow to mobilize themselves or do it voluntarily, and disease will be cured. Their genetic lines will be severed, only smart hohols will remain who will be smart enough to fear or cooperate with Russia.

>>519603176
subbed keep going

>>519594859 (OP)
not much but stockholm syndrome to cope away the thousands of wasted lifes
>>519604213
Thank you Asa very insightful

>>519603176
/pol/ fighters
pick your warrior

>>519599066
>USA
>Speaks English
>Inherited entire religious landscape from Great Britain
>Was always a colony of Great Britain
>was almost entirely of Anglo ethnic stock until mass migration in the 19th and 20th century
Remind me why the United States of America is supposedly a real thing and not just the United Kingdom?

>>519594859 (OP)
ziggers, your answer?

>>519595470
>Ukraine is historically Russian and did not exist
/thread

>>519594859 (OP)
>let me mass murder white people
>including ethnic russians
>close to a million now KEEP GOING
>this is totally justified, because some students were forced to sing ukrainian hymn and also muh BIOLABS
>I don't understand how viruses spread, or that genetic distance between russians and ukrainians is non-existent
>and they burned 12 putin supporters to death in may of 2014 in Odessa, months after the invasion.
i hope you die.

>>519597540
most european states didn't exist in the 1600s you mouth breathing idiot

>>519594859 (OP)
Didn't read, also why havent you volunteered for the hohol foreign legions yet?

>>519595152
YES

>>519600133
> You're Kazakh
Yeah, right. Guess his ethnicity, Bubba.

>>519606519
It sucks Ivan. Here at least our orange king nigger pretends to care about whites. According to spic fuentes he wants to have immigration only from white countries opposed to mass migration. I told some xoxols at a store like a few months ago to come over. Just learn the way of the retarded burgershit. Or just be a redneck. You will be way more respected in the south.

>>519594859 (OP)
Prevented Ukraine having NATO bases. It would have been game over for them at that point.

>>519608642

Of course, after all, it was "game over" for them when NATO got bases in Germany. And then Poland. And then Lithuania/Latvia/Estonia. Turkey too.

But I guess the fact Sweden and Finland joined NATO as a direct result of russia invading Ukraine is also beneficial to Putin

>>519599839
Evgeny, actually

>>519595768
If only you were speaking to an American and not a nigger on a VPN

>>519598776
Because we don't kill them. We made them rich. Qatar, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Bahrain, Oman, etc.

The reason Iraq got invaded was because Saddam attacked Kuwait.

Armed Russian illegals crossed the border into Ukraine, started murdering people and stealing their property. War crimes that are the lowest of the low: raping POWs, kidnapping children, forcing hostages to fight against their own country, withholding water food and medicine from Ukrainians, etc. Russians are not even human at this point.

>>519608642
Cause and effect. Ukraine didn't join NATO, Putin invaded Ukraine. Countries join NATO because Putin threatens to invade them. Joining NATO prevents Putin from invading

The ONLY reason Putin doesn't want countries in NATO is because he plans to invade, conquer and colonize them.

>>519606279
Ukraine became an independent nation and internationally-recognized sovereign state before the Russian Federation was invented.

The Russian Federation agreed to inherit several treaties from the Soviet Union and signed several agreements recognizing Kyiv and respecting the borders between the two countries.

The only thing that changed was Putin started lying about all of it and invaded illegally to steal land that did not belong to him. Russians have always been famous for their their innate treachery - lying, stealing and cheating. but now they commit war crimes and atrocities to steal from the foreigners they murder. They aren't like modern, decent human beings.

No wonder everybody prefers Nogs to Slavs

>>519594859 (OP)
Wait so the Ukraine and all of NATO is losing to Nigeria? Oh we're cooked

>>519595351
I have a boner. What's her name?

>>519612687
Eugene

>>519611327
i believe it was wmd i heard it all the time

>>519613034
It was indeed WMD allegation plus claims that Iraq sponsored Al-Qaeda which was fucking funded and raised by CIA lul. But mostly it was WMD allegations. The nafo troon is full of shit

>>519613034
>>519613538
>retards not realizing he's talking about the First Gulf War

>>519594859 (OP)
>What has Russia gained from this war that it couldn’t have achieved BEFORE?
Bankrupted the EU and US.
Exposed NATO as a paper tiger.
Grows bigger by the day... a size of a small country/island is being added to Russia every single day.

>>519600310
Fuck you

>>519594859 (OP)
Russia sound a lot like US in its golden age. What's your complaint?
>>519596942
>We wuz Rus and shiet!
By the way, Kievan Rus is the name historians gave to era long after. At the time it was called Rus or Russia in Greek.

>>519613538
>The nafo troon is full of shit
What part of shithole Russia are you from, vpn-anon?

>>519594859 (OP)
that image lol

>>519614844
BLYAT