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Anonymous (ID: ev4E1Hzu) Bulgaria No.519623767 [Report] >>519623828 >>519625070 >>519625204 >>519626060 >>519628120 >>519632479 >>519634027 >>519635844 >>519643816
any "support" for the ukraine is MISGUIDED, easily REFUTABLE w basic LOGIC
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( picrel is how an IDEAL dream scenario political map of Europe would look like... -- all Slavic nations combined, with the West and East having EQUAL[-ish] and BALANCED access to the Major SEAS ...
...also, please DO NOTICE something MISSING ... ;]] )

Daily reminder that your "support" for the ukraine in this war is MISGUIDED and can be EASILY refuted.


PROOF, in FOUR (4) PARTS --
-- 1 being a political PARALLEL, 2 and 3 being a brief PRE-HISTORY, and 4 being an ANALOGY meant for historically illiterate AMERICAN consumers.

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PART 1 ONE:
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You know GERMANY and AUSTRIA, right?

Austria in German is "Österreich" (OesterReich) LITERALLY means "EASTERN REACH(es)" (almost same as in English).

( "REACH" is in the sense of "land", "region", "area", "end" , etc. you get the idea )
[ _POLITICALLY_ , this can also be translated as EASTERN / OUTER +PLUS+ kingdom / state / country ]


Sounds a bit "demeaning" to Austrians that their country is named that, no?
Well... Not exactly...

Because "Austrians" are (mostly) ethnically, linguistically and historically (MOSTLY) GERMAN, their natural COLLECTIVE National Aim is to seek reunification with their Motherland one day.

( Obviously, however, this will NOT happen ANY TIME SOON, as the cucked European powers would NOT allow a Re-Unified Grand German State )

THUS, Austrians are content with their CURRENT "demeaning" name, because they don't have any special pretenses or pretends regarding their classification... or... "ROLE", if you will, within the Grander context of the German nation.

They are simply the GERMANS from the OUTER LANDS.

And they are PERFECTLY CONTENT with that, FOR NOW, until EVENTUALLY they are ONE WHOLE with the Motherland -- Germany again.

Nothing "submissive" about that -- it's just that, like in most families, there are OLDER siblings, and YOUNGER siblings. :P

CASE CLOSED.

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( TO BE CONTINUED IN NEXT COMMENT -- PART 2 TWO )

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Anonymous (ID: ev4E1Hzu) Bulgaria No.519623828 [Report] >>519623870
>>519623767 (OP)

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PART 2 TWO:
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"Укpaйнa" (Ukraina) in Russian LITERALLY means "border" -- "reach", "tail-end", "far-off", "end-land", "FRONTIER" etc. you get the idea.

Sounds a bit "demeaning" to ukrainians that their country is named that, no?
Well... Not exactly...

Because "ukrainians" are (MOSTLY) ethnically, linguistically and historically (mostly) RUSSIAN, their natural COLLECTIVE National Aim, UNTIL RECENTLY, was to seek reunification with their Motherland one day.

THUS, ukrainians, UNTIL RECENTLY were content with their "demeaning" name, because they didn't have any special pretenses or pretends regarding their classification... or... "ROLE", if you will, within the Grander context of the SOVIET ( really, RUSSIAN-led ) nation.

IN FACT, they could only be THANKFUL for their position within the Russian Empire (and later, USSR), because Moscow had ALWAYS been VERY generous with its gifting of newer, and broader and broader territories to the ukrainian Province.

"ukrainians", aka "lower / outer RUSSIANS" were always treated lovingly by Moscow in a big-bro to lil' bro relationship !! :)

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HOWEVER...

However, once the USSR collapsed and Nationalism was on the rise again, the West saw the ukraine as a useful area through which it could work its anti-Russian geopolitical ambitions.

THUS, ukrainian "Nationalism" was ARTIFICIALLY invented as a TOOL through which said Western aims could be worked and achieved.

This culminated in the 2014 coup in Kiev and outright installation of a Western-appointed puppet in charge of the ukraine.
Suddenly, the two countries, which had ALWAYS been ONE NATION, separated only by a river, were in (almost) full-scale conflict with each other.

BUT...

BUT... please DO NOTICE something interesting:

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( TO BE CONTINUED IN NEXT COMMENT -- PART 3 THREE )

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Anonymous (ID: ev4E1Hzu) Bulgaria No.519623870 [Report] >>519623923
>>519623828
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PART 3 THREE:
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BUT...

BUT... please DO NOTICE something interesting:

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The NEW "ukrainian" leadership made NO MOTIONS whatsoever towards RENAMING their newly-purposed "country".

Technically, the recent ukrainian "ELITE" has been claiming full sovereignty and TOTAL DISASSOCIATION with its former Heartland of Moscow Russia.
And, in fact, it has declared a BELLIGERENT POSITION towards it.

BUT STILL,

STILL, they MAINTAIN that "DEMEANING" name of "ukraina" ...

... When, ostensibly, the VERY FIRST THING they would have done once assuming power, would have been to RE-NAME IT to something historically sensible and MORE _RESPECTABLE_ !!

( such as, FOR EXAMPLE, Kiev, Cossackia, Zaporozh, Don, Volhynia, etc. -- which have ALL been lower-Russian INDEPENDENT states in PAST historical times ... )


... ?!?! WHY ?!?!

Well, because, you see, my friend, this new ukrainian "ELITE" is NOT REALLY "ukrainian" AT ALL !!

It's in fact an ANGLO-13w15н creation, installed from outside, meant to DESTROY ukraine and the RUSSIANS who had been inhabiting it FOR CENTURIES.

It has no regard for "ukrainians" (really, RUSSIANS).. . .
... In fact, it would really only DESTROY them, so as to clear the way for a new geopolitical reshaping of that part of the world !!

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*TL;DR:* IT'S ALL IN THE NAME :

The new "ukrainian" "elite" OUTS ITSELF as ANTI-"ukrainian" (i.e. anti-RUSSIAN) by mere virtue of its nominology.

This was was NEVER a Russia - "ukraine" war.
It's a Russia - NATO (anglo-1ude1a war !!)


"Ukraine" , you say ??

Heh... More like...

u-krai-NA(to)ZYst-ia !!

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Anonymous (ID: ev4E1Hzu) Bulgaria No.519623923 [Report] >>519624362 >>519639266
>>519623870

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PART 4 FOUR:
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>from OP: 4 being an ANALOGY meant for historically illiterate AMERICAN consumers.


IMAGINE the Administrative Bureaucrats over at DC Capital, at the past moment in history when FLORIDA acceded to the Union for the FIRST time (early 1800s) , decided to name it something like... let's say... "LIMP DICK" ...
( ... because, you know, that's KINDA what Florida looks like on the political map... hehe ... :D )


Well, NATURALLY, native Floridans would be VERY UNHAPPY about that and would want to reinstate a DIFFERENT name for their state, one that has more RESPECT and DIGNITY.

THUS, they would IMMEDIATELY collectively organize to rename their State that they so love...
... PROVIDED, of course, that they actually *DO* REALLY "love" and "care for" it, of course ...

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NOW,

NOW, please do CONTRAST this with the ukrainian situation:

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The NEW "ukrainian" leadership made NO MOTIONS whatsoever towards RENAMING their newly-purposed "country".

Technically, the recent ukrainian "ELITE" has been claiming full sovereignty and TOTAL DISASSOCIATION with its former Heartland of Moscow Russia.
And, in fact, it has declared a BELLIGERENT POSITION towards it.

BUT STILL,

STILL, they MAINTAIN that "DEMEANING" name of "ukraina" ...

... When, ostensibly, the VERY FIRST THING they would have done once assuming power, would have been to RE-NAME IT to something historically sensible and MORE _RESPECTABLE_ !!


... ?!?! WHY ?!?!

Well, because, you see, my friend, this new ukrainian "ELITE" is NOT REALLY "ukrainian" AT ALL !!

It's in fact an ANGLO-13w15н creation, installed from outside, meant to DESTROY ukraine and the RUSSIANS who had been inhabiting it FOR CENTURIES.

It has no regard for "ukrainians" (really, RUSSIANS).. . ... In fact, it would really only DESTROY them, so as to clear the way for a new geopolitical reshaping of that part of the world !!

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*TL;DR:* IT'S ALL IN THE NAME.

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Anonymous (ID: ev4E1Hzu) Bulgaria No.519624362 [Report]
>>519623923

*TL;DR:*

This whole thing was *NEVER* about "the ukraine" .

It was about installing an anti-Russian junta-regime in Kiev to act as a THORN IN RUSSIA'S SIDE . ...
... so that the EU / NATO Western elites could prolong their "dominance" and "high" standard of living, ...
... at the expense of the "ukrainian" people, who would be the SACRIFICIAL LAMBS towards the achievement of said goal, ...
... by SEVERING Russia's centuries-long traditions and connections with its immediate hinterlands and brethren people . :P


The only way of "supporting" the ukraine is to promote its accession into the Russian Federation.

When this War ends, IF the jewish junta is STILL in place, "ukrainians" will be replaced by jeets and niggers.
On the other hand, IF the Russian world is united, this will be managed and contained, and NOT allowed to happen.

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Anonymous (ID: ev4E1Hzu) Bulgaria No.519624797 [Report] >>519624987 >>519626001 >>519626611
lol @ the lack of response ..

the SLIDE is REAL !! :P

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Anonymous (ID: Vr+rQ/6x) Czech Republic No.519624987 [Report]
>>519624797
no one cares about some retarded schizo blog
Anonymous (ID: LI4rYbOD) Germany No.519625070 [Report] >>519625776
>>519623767 (OP)
.......
Anonymous (ID: s24ku1Ke) Bulgaria No.519625204 [Report] >>519625776 >>519625861
>>519623767 (OP)
Tвa ayтизъм или дeбилщинa e?
Anonymous (ID: 0JYOzTEp) Bulgaria No.519625604 [Report] >>519625861
tldr
Anonymous (ID: ev4E1Hzu) Bulgaria No.519625776 [Report]
>>519625070
um, err-r-r... DUH !! Gorbi is gonna say JUST that.
Of course he wouldn't want to out himself as a complete moron, by admitting the actual FACTS ? -_-

>>519625204
>Tвa ayтизъм или дeбилщинa e?

He asks whether this is autism or moronity.

I say: It is actual EXPERTISE, cognizance, and experience on the topic at hand. :P
EXTENSIVE ones too, spanning decades of study, tradition and understanding.

meanwhile, my bulgarbro has had less years of life lived than I've had in Geopolitics. hah. :D

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Anonymous (ID: ev4E1Hzu) Bulgaria No.519625861 [Report]
>>519625204
>>519625604
ok, it's confirmed that our Ministry of Interior has apparently been USURPED by JEW-krai-NA(to)ZYst-s.

And they've directed their goons to attack my thread !! :P
Anonymous (ID: ga8AGUeA) Spain No.519626001 [Report] >>519627275
>>519624797
Why do you insist on flooding Poland man? It's bizarre.
Anonymous (ID: +UYSjj6I) United States No.519626060 [Report] >>519627275 >>519641415
>>519623767 (OP)
>FOR NOW, until EVENTUALLY they are ONE WHOLE with the Motherland -- Germany again.
actually, anschluss is now unconstitutional in both germany and austria.
it's a shame your whole proof relied on this now disproven claim.
Anonymous (ID: vu36yf1Z) Russian Federation No.519626465 [Report]
Nigger, i aint reading all that
Anonymous (ID: Pjna5fyz) United States No.519626611 [Report]
>>519624797
>Man who cannot stop sucking Russian dick continues sucking as hard as he can
Whatever.
Anonymous (ID: ev4E1Hzu) Bulgaria No.519627275 [Report] >>519634772 >>519641415
>>519626001
Because it is the single MOST TENSE point of geopolitical stress in the entire history of Europe for the last 400 years or so.

How to solve that ??
Well, simple :

No territory = No problem! :)

>>519626060
>actually, anschluss is now unconstitutional in both germany and austria.
yes, I did explain in my post that NO ONE would allow it, because of past historic associations and reasons.

>it's a shame your whole proof relied on this now disproven claim.

No; This wasn't even a "point" in the "proof" .

It was a DRAWN *PARALLEL* -- an ANALOGY through which to build a basis upon which the CURRENT SITUATION between the ukraine and Russia can be elaborated...
... and FROM THERE to construct "the PROOF" . :)

Please be more comprehensive and analytically exhaustive in your reading, understanding and assimilation of the presented text and content. :)

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Anonymous (ID: RRz8ZaiL) Romania No.519628120 [Report] >>519629289 >>519631189
>>519623767 (OP)
We have many things in common with serbs, Bulgarians and hungarians but we have nothing in common with xoxols or ziggers.
Anonymous (ID: ev4E1Hzu) Bulgaria No.519629289 [Report]
>>519628120
>we have nothing in common with xoxols
literally a HUGE BORDER between the two countries.

>or ziggers.

Literally used the Cyrillic Alphabet OFFICIALLY until like 100-120 years ago.

Count Tepes, pls... -_-

Bring back Moldavia and Wallachia, pls... :P
Anonymous (ID: nv0z1hDE) Germany No.519629314 [Report] >>519634514
who cares lmao
its funny to watch r*ssians die lmao
Anonymous (ID: u+kqTzWq) Sweden No.519629723 [Report] >>519634514
tl;dr

Russia can go fuck itself with a rake
Anonymous (ID: 8cmRWMLW) Romania No.519631189 [Report]
>>519628120
Fuck Bulgars and all Turkics with Ashkenazis right up front.
Anonymous (ID: ev4E1Hzu) Bulgaria No.519631884 [Report]
bamp
Anonymous (ID: +3ZZYuvi) Serbia No.519632479 [Report] >>519634514
>>519623767 (OP)
Former Russia supporter here, this war opened my eyes and now i hate the anti-white golden horde
Anonymous (ID: UDzU6ZfC) Argentina No.519634027 [Report] >>519634514
>>519623767 (OP)
kys, zigger, i'm not reading you ai copypasta slop
Anonymous (ID: ev4E1Hzu) Bulgaria No.519634514 [Report]
>>519629314
>its funny to watch r*ssians die lmao

then why don't you go to PERSONALLY fight them? ;]]

>>519629723
>Fuck Bulgars and all Turkics with Ashkenazis right up front.

ok, I can agree about the Turkoids and iud01ds.
What's your problem with US, tho, Drac? :O

>>519632479
>now i hate the anti-white golden horde

oh, so you hate NATO too ?? Glad to hear !! :D

>>519634027
not ai, and not copypasta.

I wrote it PERSONALLY, and did the research AND mental EFFORT myself. :)

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Anonymous (ID: +UYSjj6I) United States No.519634772 [Report] >>519635417 >>519637323 >>519641745
>>519627275

are you DENYING that the DISPROVEN

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example was part 1 of your

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PROOF in four PARTS?

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Anonymous (ID: ev4E1Hzu) Bulgaria No.519635417 [Report] >>519635568
>>519634772
"ha-ha", you so funny... ~_~
Anonymous (ID: +UYSjj6I) United States No.519635568 [Report] >>519637323
>>519635417
I accept your concession
Anonymous (ID: EecforQ3) Sweden No.519635844 [Report] >>519637323
>>519623767 (OP)
swedes are ethnically closer to danes and norwegians than finns you fucking nitwit. nonetheless i would support a nordic military union. iceland, norway, sweden, denmark.. i'm getting a hard-on right now.
Anonymous (ID: ev4E1Hzu) Bulgaria No.519637323 [Report]
>>519635568
>>519634772
and I find your attempt at an "imitation" to be VERY weak. :P

>>519635844
>swedes are ethnically closer to danes and norwegians than finns you fucking nitwit.

I am perfectly aware of that.

Linguistically, Finns, (together with Estonians and Hungarians), are unlike ANYONE ELSE in Europe.

The map was meant only for POLITICAL (and Military) alliances, not ethno-linguistic divisions. :)

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Anonymous (ID: +UYSjj6I) United States No.519638864 [Report] >>519639266
OP was a faggot who couldn't engage with his own thread,

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look what happened

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sad!
Anonymous (ID: ev4E1Hzu) Bulgaria No.519639266 [Report] >>519639642
>>519638864
I'm ... like ... still here? :P

btw, I've been posting this thread occasionally over the past week or so. (just ONCE per day max, though)

EVERY TIME it has garnered a significant amount of posts and attention.

So I know it's not all for nought.

Seriously, though, consider this as an American:

>>519623923

>from OP: 4 being an ANALOGY meant for historically illiterate AMERICAN consumers.

quoted:

IMAGINE the Administrative Bureaucrats over at DC Capital, at the past moment in history when FLORIDA acceded to the Union for the FIRST time (early 1800s) , decided to name it something like... let's say... "LIMP DICK" ...
( ... because, you know, that's KINDA what Florida looks like on the political map... hehe ... :D )


Well, NATURALLY, native Floridans would be VERY UNHAPPY about that and would want to reinstate a DIFFERENT name for their state, one that has more RESPECT and DIGNITY.

THUS, they would IMMEDIATELY collectively organize to rename their State that they so love...
... PROVIDED, of course, that they actually *DO* REALLY "love" and "care for" it, of course ...

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Anonymous (ID: +UYSjj6I) United States No.519639642 [Report] >>519641415
>>519639266
who cares, you conceded that point 1 was disproven and the entire proof rested on it
then you hid from the only anons still engaging with your thread
better luck tomorrow I guess but the key here is changing your own behavior, hopefully you figure that out
Anonymous (ID: ev4E1Hzu) Bulgaria No.519641415 [Report] >>519641745
>>519639642
>who cares, you conceded that point 1 was disproven and the entire proof rested on it
Wrong.

Here's what happened:

First, YOU said:
>>519626060
>it's a shame your whole proof relied on this now disproven claim.

then I *replied* :

>>519627275

>No; This wasn't even a "point" in the "proof" .

>It was a DRAWN *PARALLEL* -- an ANALOGY through which to build a basis upon which the CURRENT SITUATION between the ukraine and Russia can be elaborated...
>... and FROM THERE to construct "the PROOF" . :)


Please be more comprehensive and analytically exhaustive in your reading, understanding and assimilation of the presented text and content. :)


:)
Anonymous (ID: +UYSjj6I) United States No.519641745 [Report] >>519641815 >>519642020
>>519641415
and then

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I refuted that last point
imagine trying to trick me into forgetting

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that this post exists >>519634772

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and that you immediately conceded I was

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correct. kek, what kind of


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dumb nigger lies to the only anon still willing to talk to his retar

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ded ass?
Anonymous (ID: ev4E1Hzu) Bulgaria No.519641815 [Report] >>519642020
>>519641745
how much do ((( they ))) pay you?? :P
Anonymous (ID: OBNyv9p7) Finland No.519641925 [Report] >>519643743
>oink oink
go back to your pen pidor
Anonymous (ID: +UYSjj6I) United States No.519642020 [Report]
>>519641815
there you go, sha

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melessly conceding every argumen

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I made. in b4 you lie and try to

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trick me into f

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orgetting I made this post >>519641745
Anonymous (ID: ev4E1Hzu) Bulgaria No.519643743 [Report]
>>519641925
check your color-blindness, Lapa Lainen -- I'm NOT Russian. :P
that's the BULGARIAN flag, Kimmi ! :)
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Anonymous (ID: geNkFSZK) Serbia No.519643752 [Report]
Based tatar.
Anonymous (ID: nCQu6hMH) No.519643816 [Report] >>519644202
>>519623767 (OP)
Don't drink and post.
Anonymous (ID: ev4E1Hzu) Bulgaria No.519644202 [Report]
>>519643816
you honestly believe I was DRUNK while thinking up and writing all this ?

wow... I don't know if I should take it as a compliment or what !! :O