Thread 519675044

> Under Chinese new export controls, importers will need a government license to access not only the rare earth permanent magnets, but also the refined metals and alloys that go into them.
> China provides nearly 99 percent of the EU’s supply of the 17 rare earths, as well as about 98 percent of its rare earth permanent magnets.
> The EU defense industry risks grinding to a halt as inventory shortfalls could leave it struggling to produce and deliver enough weapons for the war in Ukraine.

NATO is dead & it's killed by EU's impotency.

i am de gigachad, you are de gigachad

>>519675044 (OP)
Wow based! Will NATO troons ack without magnetic dildos?

>>519675044 (OP)
NATO's entire purpose was to beat Russia in a war. they failed, and are now out of shit and their countries are bankrupted. It'll have a new name by 2027.

They should substitute them with black girl magic

>>519675044 (OP)
Oh no, we will have to buy all the magnets from Turkey or Brazil or any other country that will buy it from China to resell

>>519675217
The Chinese are perfectly capable of paying attention to quantities being ordered and will prevent anyone from fulfilling suspicious volumes.

The US is planning to replace China with Australia.

Australia has everything we need without restrictions.

China bluffed and lost.

>>519675633
the US also has all of the minerals it needs. the question is who has processing facilities set up to extract them. The Chinese and the Russians are the only two who have that now. It takes years to set up.

Sweden has Europe's largest deposit of rare earths, unmined
Don't need any slant-eyed gooks for that

>>519675814
let us know when you figure out that the "mining" part is the hard part

Rare earths aren't actually rare. Nobody but china wants to do the ecological damage required to extract then.
Typical western decadence biting itself in the ass.

>>519675814
You may have them yea, but what is keeping your leaders from selling out anyways because they are too lazy to get it themselves?

>>519676553
other countries do but only China does it on large scale - they control the export market. Russia for example produces all of these things but only in quantities needed for internal use most of the time. They are often just byproducts of other industrial processes like aluminum manufacturing. If a country does that on large scale it's relatively easy to add the processing to produce the rare earth mineral. this is only worth it if you can use it internally, because China has the export market share. Now that USA is a willing customer there is market share available but it will take several years for anyone to ramp up to meet it, which is too long for the current geopolitical reality.

>>519675814
venezuela has the largest oil reserves in the worl, doesn't mean shit if it's in the ground

>>519675217
turkey is also nato :D
brazil :D

>>519675217
>brazil
what do you think b in brics stands for?
a. bussy b. bible
c. brazil d. boobs

>>519675633
Does that also mean replacing non-whites with whites?

>>519675814
> expecting Nordcucks lifting a finger against Green Transition EU, which forbids them to mine or pollute their environments to process the rare earths
lmao

None of that. Zelensky will fight until the last ukrainian (except for himself and his family obviously). He is clearly brave enough to get as many millions of ukrainians killed as necessary. So noble!

>>519675814
Swedecucks are too concerned about shitting up their environment to do it though. Too pussy. Not to mention, near zero knowledge and knowhow to extract and refine the minerals. You need tools and machinery for it too

>>519675129
True, they're now trying to rebrand EU into NATO.
>>519675633
>>519676698
Do you expect your (((coastal oligarchs))) to stay on Trump's track after he's out of office though?
I would expect them to cuck out to Chinese supply chain dominance immediately.
> They are often just byproducts of other industrial processes
For EU this is not an option anymore as we all see today, so your colonialisation of EU has been completed.

>>519675814

From what I've read, Spain also had some kind of huge mine for fertilizers that all of Europe relies on Canada for.

The mining has been halted because of some kind of bureaucratic mistake in one of the licensing documents. Not even a missing requirement, just some kind of formal error.

The company called it off because they had already been waiting for decades over stuff like that and couldn't afford it anymore.

Jfl

>>519678350
China isn't going to sell USA equipment for making weapons to use against them. They don't need the money rare earths aren't a big business.

>>519675044 (OP)
fuck chinx.
First world must invest in rare earth element mining in Africa and decouple from chyna.

>>519675633
another one good news. Australia is our greatest ally. not israel, Free Palestine, TKD

>>519678146
FUCK green deal
Metal pollution on European soil is far better than shitskin non-white non-european dependency. Literally look at chyna, heavily polluted, their people are stunted from pollution but they are still a serious threat to White civilization
I rather be poor but White European, living in White ethnostate than be rich but surrounded & dependent on shitskin non-whites

>>519675633
Might as well plan to replace it with Mars.

>>519675744
>the question is who has processing facilities set up to extract them.
Australia. The entire purpose of the US-Australia deal was based around that. Plus, China probably will do a deal with the USA anyway and screw over the EU. Everyone hates the EU, fuck those telephone sanitising cat-lady bureaucunts.

>>519675044 (OP)
I guarantee you the story is exactly the same as the US. The major military suppliers are all placating shareholders about how they have inventory, but they're all desperate to find new suppliers. China has basically dropped a nuclear bomb on arms manufacturers. It's absolutely hilarious.

>>519675387
Got it so China is going to lose a lot of money and black markets will emerge.

>>519675129
>It'll have a new name by 2027.
How about GAYTO?

>>519675129
>they failed
What happened? Russia won a war against NATO? How did I miss that?

>>519675814
yeah no, you have no practical knowledge, these things don't mine themselves, and purification is a major pita
also your environmental laws make it impossible

>>519678334
All other countries that have some rare earths, they can't purify it, and have to send it to China anyway as the Chinese invented the process in the 1980s and are the only ones with the infrastructure and technical experience to pull it off.
That's what you get when you outsource all your industry to foreign countries. You become complacent, you tend to forget that on paper and in practice there is a major difference, and the devil is always in the (undisclosed company secrets) details.
You can huff and puff al you want, truth is the last great Swedish chemists died over a century ago.

>>519678775
>a lot of money
it's not a lot of money actually

>>519679408
>the Chinese invented the process in the 1980s and are the only ones with the infrastructure and technical experience to pull it off.
what garbage are you Eurofags reading?

>>519679408
>you tend to forget that on paper and in practice there is a major difference, and the devil is always in the (undisclosed company secrets) details.

Lol it was literally started by our governments. The chinese legit just want to trade. Imagine the world if everyone was like the chinese and not a bunch of warlords.

>>519675044 (OP)
oh look moar chink spam

>>519675044 (OP)
>NATO is dead
Not yet. When Trump has the US exit NATO so that Ukraine can join, that will be the end.

>>519680001
it would be so fucking funny if all nato countries left nato just to leave ukraine on it's own in it.
same with eu membership..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQ7Bv6Q9uaA

>>519678557
>Might as well plan to replace it with Mars
I don’t think you really know what you’re talking about, cunt. We have an ocean of mineral shitting desert that has predominantly only been surveyed for iron ore and energy resources. And mining is what we do.

>>519680145
Something so laughably ridiculous will never happen outside of your vatnig fantasies. Russia lost, get over it. You are weak. You are poor. Your collapse is 1-2 years away.

>>519680402
> two more weeks is now 1-2 more years
Yikes. Is that what winning is like?

>>519679484
praesodymium and neodymium are notoriously difficult to separate (this is true for practically all lanthanides btw), the Chinese invented the process, amongst others, on an *industrial* scale, and no way Swedish environmental laws would allow for it. Hence why rare earths mined elsewhere are always sent to China to refine.

>>519680402
jfl at this stupid cope

we are putting up with sanctions on russia that hurt us more. now the price of electricity is stabilizing, but when they created the sanctions, that winter some people couldn't afford heating in their homes. in ukraine, the conscripted men wish zelensky lost the war today and they could go home and not die. meanwhile you brag because "russians lost" kek. who cares if putin or zelensky wins, it's still bad news for most people.

>>519679714
I was talking about the fine points of practical lanthanide refining in industrial chemistry.

if only someone could have predicted this.
Chine doing nothing and winning is the craziest thing ever, totally unexpected and out of nowhere.
Really, no one ever saw that coming.

>>519681294
ok good point you're probably right

>>519679408
the barrier is not the expertise, its that china can shit out infrastructure on a whim because it has no regard for regulation and its people are all brainwashed drones
but now that the world is finally realizing that letting china do whatever it wanted for 50 years is a bad strategy things will change pretty quickly

>>519679047
NATO exposed itself to be an impotent, when the time flex muscles came about.
Russian are unironically the European master race now.

>>519682085
Rofl. Your conscripts continue suiciding themselves in the barracks, rusnigger. Your empire is ashes

>>519682432
yes because the oinkranians are so happy to be slaves of zelensky so he can buy another mansion

>>519682083
At least changs have smol pp and the gas lighting is obvious. With them Americans youll get anything from a sex slave jewess (9-12 pbuh) or some mystery meat nigger (also 9 -12 inch) then they neck shoot you in a crowded space.

>>519675994
They literally found the deposit next to their existing Iron mine, by (((pure coincidence)))

>>519678146
>>519678334
You do not know the greed of the Swede. They are what /pol/ says jews are. They will ignore any EU/Green laws and directives when it suits them.

>>519677159
A bussy final answer

>>519682962
that ore is getting mined

>>519681360
export controls are doing something doeverbeit

>>519675744
It only takes years because its not an emergency, if it were an emergency it would get done quickly.

>>519676698
Yeah thats what one of the steel companies was saying the other day, they are going to start extracting the rare earths from the iron ore during processing.

>>519682962
> They will ignore any EU/Green laws
Outside of EU perhaps, but inside (on their own soil), no

>>519675044 (OP)
i love to see it, china is doing us a favor, exposing all these retards

>>519682432
not our problem, nor does your swamp nigger alcoholic reservation's screeching undo the reality of NATO's impotency.
I mean Christ sake, you Nordcucks are only ones dumb enough of participating in PRUL scheme for 500 mil €.
I don't know what it is with your Nordcucks, but your just let everyone financially abuse you.

>>519677159
banan

>>519685439
B*ltics and N*rdcucks are way overdue for a group therapy about their boogeyman the ruskie.
When I was in Estonia a few years back for a youth work camp, an Estonian guy came to our table at a bar and started rambling about Russia this Russia that and how much he loves the EU and the US. He then proceeded to touch the dick of one of our guys and when called out, left sobbing. I mean they are just something else.

Lmao, Westoids lead by Amerigolems are absolutely deranged.
The average adult has the mind of a child.

>muuh rare earths are not rare

Does not matter, most deposits are in BRICS countries.

>w-we could totally easily replace China!

Lmao, now sit in front of a mirror and say that again out loud.

Imagine that, it would have not crossed your mind. You lack the infrastructure AND the knowledge/experience to set things up to get the needed purity from the extraction and processing.
This is why China is really having a tight grip on those engineers and scientists working in that field. They cannot leave the country without a special permit.

>>519675044 (OP)
There is an emergency meeting in London today for the EU
They passed the recent sanctions package without consulting anyone, came out and congratulated themsleves
That lasted about 5 minutes until pretty much every major defense supplier across Italy, Germany and France pointed out they have just completely fucked their own ability to make any weapons

The meeting was only announced 48 hours ago and will be focused on how to get around their own sanctions

Couldn't make it up

>>519676553
The working mines are rare. It takes 5 years to get a lithium mine up and running because the extraction process is very expensive. Multi billion dollar long term investment. Thats why nobody will risk mining in places like Afganistan.

>>519679047
You are not brown enough to notice

>>519675129
Maybe the IMF can bail out NATO?

>>519683310
This is hilarious cope

>>519686415
Top kek