Thread 519694504

Where did all the doge cuts and tariff revenue go??

just print more money to pay off the debt lol

>>519694504 (OP)
These trillions are to pay the interests of the other debts, you have to way to stop it without showing the middle finger to who owns your debts (Japan and the Jews).

Cool unsourced image, Achmed!

Imagine thinking we will every pay this. We have the worlds most powerful military. Imagine owning an M1A1 SEP4 MBT with the crew from Fury. Imagine having access to Satellite surveillance of your entire city. Imagine infinity fuel and ammo. Imagine a fully unlocked and unlimited menu of killstreak rewards. Imagine always having the ability to rain nuclear warheads on your city as a ragequit mechanic. Now imagine the local Wells Fargo calls you saying you owe them money or else. Lmao. Lmfao even

>>519694671
Most people who own the debt are american citizens. Se te quemo el mole.

its probably worse but trump can only juice the stats to a certain degree which ads to the uncertainty. I suggest canned goods and shotguns.

>>519694547
Money printing implies the federal government taking on MORE debt.

>>519694504 (OP)
Has anyone gotten their $5k check yet?
Trump just said there would be a $2k check too, but I haven't gotten the $5k one.

>>519694814
Thats the joke

>>519694769
Foreigners own less than a quarter of all debt, and the share of foreign-owned debt has been falling over the last 15 years, while debt held by US pension funds and other private US investors has been increasing.

>>519694504 (OP)
>American safety nets
Gutted
>American science and research
Gone
>Federal employees
Fired
>USD value
Plummeting
>American education
Reaching rock bottom
>American farmers
Broke
>Foreign armies and economies
Well funded and fat
>Everyone involved in MAGA
Made more money since Jan 2025 than 5 generations of your family ever will
>US National Debt
Literally shattering the ceiling

Wow I'm so glad we went through the "ripping off the bandaid" process with doge, now we can really start the golden age! Thank goodness these humble billionaires took time out of their busy lives to save us!

>>519694786
>Most people who own the debt are american citizens

False.

>>519694504 (OP)
who's getting all these trillions? my pay hasn't gone up in years

>>519694753
>le debt doesn't real! source!? PEER REVIEWED SOURCE??????
kill yourself

>>519694504 (OP)
WTF! Republicans are supposed to be the fiscally responsible side. Did the parties switch?

>>519695603
You have to stop pretending that pre-MAGA and post-MAGA Republicans are the same organization.
The former claimed to be the moral center of the country, fiscally conservative, and about states rights and a small federal government. The latter is continuously embroiled in blatant corruption, , spending money we don't have and congress never approved, expanding the power of the executive branch, and marching troops into cities against the will of the states and making increasingly more serious threats about ripping away control of vital institutions like elections away from state governments.

A republican of the Bush era and a republican of the Trump era wouldn't be friends, they would be fighting each other to the death.

>>519694504 (OP)
imagine not knowing the FRN was always going to die

>>519694504 (OP)
So before people proclaim it doesn't matter and what difference does it make, here's what's going to happen.
Inflation gets worse, taxes go higher, cost of living goes higher, eventually all this debt will end up on the Federal Reserve's balance sheet since they have infinite money hack to be the buyer of last resort on debt.
That means the bankers outright own us.
MAGA bitchez

>>519696427
until the great Epstein reveal comes and gives Trump reason to dissolve the federal reserve

>>519694769
>Imagine owning an M1A1 SEP4 MBT with the crew from Fury
is that a le heckin movie reference! i loved that movie!!

>>519694769
what is hyperinflation

>>519696554
>until the great Epstein reveal comes and gives Trump reason to dissolve the federal reserve

kek, It's too big to stop. In fact Trump is demanding more wealth transfer through currency debasement by
A: Massive Gov spending (Credit created dilution of money)
B: Demanding Federal Reserve lower rates which sets the next stage of a crack up boom in asset inflation while inflation is still ~3% and hasn't returned to the stable made up bullshit 2% target.

We're in the last stages of outright treasury looting and wealth transfer through currency debasement through debt creation which is turned right around and thrown on taxpayer's backs.
This system is fucking E V I L.

>>519694504 (OP)
>make money Zimbabwe-tier worthless
>pay off entire debt with 1 $38,000,000,000,000 bank note

>>519694769
yeah no not how it works. If we don't pay we won't get any more debt at reasonable rates and will have to cut the infinity money that keeps all of that going. Like Russia has a tiny fraction of the share of GDP we have in debt but pays ~3x the proportional share of its economy on interest just because its rates are so much more unfavorable.

My theory is that they're going to use crypto to pull a fast one similar to Nixon closing the gold window. Will probably roil the markets and cause economic issues but honestly who knows. USTs already looking shaky and they know the one thing boomers won't tolerate is making their stocks go down, and an overall treasuries blowup would cause a huge amount of chaos in the system for at least a few years.

Better start learning mandarin whitey

Year Rounded
2030 $53 T
2035 $75 T
2040 $105 T
2050 $208 T

how will you pay for it?

devalue currency and print

>>519694769
>Imagine thinking we will every pay this.
Who the fuck is WE?
you and me have to pay it back eventually and that will be done by destroying the currency and with it lower standards of living, abject poverty. The WE who will be immune are Politicians and bankers.
Holy fuck I wish people knew the consequences of untenable debt based money that goes parabolic.

>>519696819
>It's too big to stop
once everyone knows that Epstein was doing all these backchannel deals w fed res executives and they were responsible for the 2008 financial meltdown, its gonna be all over
trump will have impetus to dissolve the federal reserve and cancel its charter

>>519694996
And I’m still not releasing the files kek

>>519694504 (OP)
Capitalists are scam artists.

There's a reason Elon left

If someone still believes that Trump cares about government efficiency or wants to cut any public spending, he cant be helped

>>519694504 (OP)
These numbers are ludicrous. This all economy is a scam. When you can just debtmaxx to infinity debt isn't real. I can only see the headlines 20 years from now.
>Breaking: US debt hits 39 centillion.

>>519694504 (OP)
What should happen:
>Kill the elites by Guillotine.
>Default on the debt.

What will happen:
>Elites will be bailed out
>Debt slavery for 300 years

>>519694769

>We are so powerful! We don't have to pay any debt back, you plebs! Haha! What will you ever do against our immense military might?

Kek you're so fucking naive. That government with the super military that you brag about is stealing from you, not us, because public debt is not money they're actually expected to pay back, it's a way to measure how much money the fed has been printing (so the government can have free money), which devalues your US dollars.

You brag about never paying back debt because you're so powerful, and it's you they're stealing from.

You cheer for Trump when he says "China will pay massive tariffs!" and its you indirectly paying for them.

You brag about your government's military, and it's you funding it, funding the wars they engage in, and ultimately even being drafted by them.

>>519697932
so long as your calculus is framed as nations vs nations and omits the internationalist angle, your calculus will forever be impotent and useless

>>519698994

I was not even talking about any nation vs any nation, didn't even mention any other nation. And the internationalist angle doesn't matter here because I'm talking about how things work internally.

>>519699263
>And the internationalist angle doesn't matter here because I'm talking about how things work internally.
this is you literally admitting that your calculus is impotent on this matter
remove the globohomo internationalist angle from any of this and its like trying to remove the sun from the model of the earth's climate

>>519694504 (OP)
Sounds like we need to deport more scum

>>519699557
Yup. Just need to deport 2 trillion brown people from the planet and it will even put

>>519699478

Ok well, if you talk about the earth's climate 1000 km underground, you can probably not take the sun into account.

Same here, I was talking about how the military and public debt affect the people inside the country, so the globohomo internationalist angle doesn't even apply.

>>519694504 (OP)
Doge was a yuge con job. The 2 trillion is in Musk's and Trump's foreign bank accounts.

>>519695150
>who's getting all these trillions?
Yeah... (((Who))) Indeed?

>>519700016
>if you talk about the earth's climate 1000 km underground, you can probably not take the sun into account.
entirely incorrect, I suppose a physics analogy was a bad one to use when talking to a retard
>I was talking about how the military and public debt affect the people inside the country, so the globohomo internationalist angle doesn't even apply
this is just you being clueless

>>519694504 (OP)
This is fake news

>>519694769
Literal retard

The tariff revenue was estimated to be about 17 trillion not long ago. The money is not in the US treasury and is missing. The consensus is Trump purloined the money.

>>519700279

nigger

i dont even know what you're talking about. i am simply stating facts.

public debt is stealing from people IN the country - true

people IN the country pay for the military and wars - true

that's it. then you started talking cryptically about muh internationalist angle. when i said those things i was actually trying to get you to explain when refuting me, and you aren't explaining shit. either say what you mean or fuck off because i have no idea.

>>519694769
Unironcially about to happen because filing bankruptcy is about to become a crime

>>519694996

But you,you,you,you,you lost tranny!

>>519694504 (OP)
It will be 380 trillion before 2040.

>>519697337
Lmao this cannot be real

>>519694504 (OP)
That's not how our debt works. It's a function of money creation. The US dollar is a superweapon designed to destroy the world.

>>519701345
Don't doubt it. Expansion of debt goes parabolic which is what creates new money. Debt + interest always leads the supply of "money" that exists currently, so basically it just goes parabolic as the creation of new money has to keep chasing the debt+ compounding interest to try and keep up, but it never can.

Makes me laugh when you see the occasional 50 IQ American state ‘We just won’t pay it’ ‘Who’s going to make us pay it’ ‘Who is it owed to’. Good luck with economic oblivion

>>519697040
>If we don't pay we won't get any more debt at reasonable rates
You are so Jewish, your nose is poking thorough my screen

>>519697040
Lol we're waayy past that, A free market would punish these high debt loads and Spending with higher interest rates which would effectively kill the system outright as it's exposed as a scam. So CB's and Treasury's world wide are playing a shell game where they implement MMT like policies to push interest rates down, this works, but you destroy the currency doing it.
So no, there's no way out. To keep the scam going you do more scammy shit.

>>519694865
Of course, not you naive fool. How the fuck does anyone believe anything that comes out of Trump's mouth when he has a history of constant lies?

>>519700525
>i dont even know what you're talking about
yeah no shit, this is what I've been telling you the entire time
>you aren't explaining shit
this is you being too retarded to understand what's being said to you
maybe try an ESL course

>>519694504 (OP)
Gibsmedat for the rich

>>519695150
It's an unsourced image, retard. Why should I believe this? Faggot libtard caught lying again.

>>519694504 (OP)
death cross

welp better import more brown people to fuck everything up and stimulate the economy by having to buy caskets for all the people they murder and shit they destroy.