Thread 519703203

How did they get away with this

They didnt. The original director had to come back and fix the whole game.

>>519703203 (OP)
All the games are bad. They are simply large mazes people look up the solution to online so they can harass the people still stuck in the maze from not looking it up. It’s a net 0 accomplishment if you have platinumed any of these games, actually is a negative value talent to have.

>>519703203 (OP)
How did they get away with making a really good game?

>>519703547
>platinumed
consolefags out

>>519703265
that was 3 and he arguably made it worse, 2 was "fixed" by Tanimura

terrible game but ds3 and elden ring redeemed it elden ring > ds3 tho

>>519703203 (OP)
Why wouldn't they get away with the best souls game?

>>519704928
Thinking DaS3 is bad is an indicator of low IQ, it's literally the best of the trilogy.

>>519703547
What are invasions anon?
Shits fun yo.

>>519705077
elden ring is garbage ds2 is unironically way better, they started dumbing these games down for normies starting with 3 arguably even bloodborne was watered down. ds2 is peak hardcore d&d shit.

>>519708108
lol, lmao even

ds2 is a collection of the gayest souls tropes. It's like the guy who came up with the anor londo archers (unironically good btw) designed a whole game.

all the bosses are jokes and the stages are just completely annoying enemy oversaturated slop. "we're just gonna put 30 ranged units in difficult to reach places half the time and hide enemies everywhere, which becomes instantly boring and trivial since you just end up rotating the cam around every corner before you take it.

That's ignoring the fact the hitboxes are dogshit, AGI is a retard mechanic, and the weapons are completely imbalanced (strike is op).

Nevermind the fact every fucking texture is muddy garbage, literally looks like an N64 game

>>519703203 (OP)
Dark Souls II is where I first entered the franchise. The game was amazing. The fucking title screen music alone mad me drip.

>>519703203 (OP)
It is actually better than elden ring.

>>519708587
filtered

>>519703203 (OP)
i never really cared for these kinds of games

>>519703547
All vidya, tv, most books etc. are 'zero accomplishment' hobbies.

>>519703203 (OP)
b-team

>>519708587
DS1 is a masterpiece. Mechanics are good, the story is fun and engaging. DS2 is water downed version with shitty mechanics. I haven't gotten to ds3 yet tho so IDK. Awesome games though.

lib souls is a trash series
it's the classic crabs in a bucket game where retards who were tricked into playing it trick other retards into playing it then saying "u arent good!!" when they say it sucks dicks which it does
battletoads is probably the first game that did this
i beat lib souls 3 just to say it was dogshit and i beat it very easily.
if u watch these "it's soooo heckin hard!!!" cringekids they're massively overleveled and basically 4 shotting the boss and still losing it's absolutely pathetic
especially that dual river of blood shit in elden imagine losing with that lol

Jews rape kids

Gaming thread?
https://youtu.be/C63L2eOEODw

>>519703203 (OP)
afaik the reason its 'bad' is because they had to make it work on the 360

I almost ragequit Frigid Outskirts and the kings' pets

>>519708815
Got illusory ring of a conquerer on PS3. sorry your game is uninspired trash.

The only good things it introduced are powerstancing (awful implementation) and The Persuer (kino af RE2 vibes). Majula theme is great rest of the game is below average

>>519708815
>filtered
Yes and I also filter myself from shit, cum, and piss. You deserve 0 respect or recognition for being a pig at a trough while also attempting to be smug about it. Reminder that 80% of the people streaming Elden ring on launch were using the same setup, even the best players in the franchise. The community is pathetic, whether is the gatekeeping faggots or the widescreen support banshees, they are desperate to be catered to, then pretend they did it all. It’s really like listening to some boomer lie about building his own house while he takes through a tour of it while you know the entire time a team of Mexicans made it that way for him and then let him put a couple screws in the side of a board.

>>519709169
silksong is the current poster-child for this shit

It’s pretty cool how dark souls 2 takes place in the same world of Elden Ring if you read item descriptions in das2. Miquella is actually mentioned. Technically das2 takes place after.

>>519709629
surprised that shit's so popular/shilled, hollow knight was fairly popular indie 2D soulswank but silksong might as well be broadcast through 5g straight into human brains

I honestly think FromShitware games are universally garbage. Sekiro and Bloodborne had nice art directions. Elden Ring had an okay art direction but was extremely overrated. The actual games across the board are sincerely slop. If they weren’t difficult literally everyone would agree that the games are shit. They are fooled by a simple pushcologvial trick recruiting investment by making it hard and in the case of Elden Ring, it was amplified by the game being oft discussed online and played on streaming sites so it became a meta to participate in. The games are trash though, like objectively.

>>519703203 (OP)
What exactly are you complaining about?
The map design?
Soul memory?
Being slower than other souls-games?
Something else?
For every flaw it had it also had an upside that was an improvement over the previous title

>>519708935
very based take.
as you get older you start to realize, hopefully not too late for yourself, that any "hobby" by which you're not actually creating anything is straight consoomer NPC shit. And it'll start to feel more and more hollow with time, and any white brain should start to feel an instinctive drive to write a book instead of reading or one, or learn to gamedev instead of playing vidya, etc.

>>519710109
>if the games weren't challenging they would be shit
wow, next you'll tell me tetris would be shit if an ai automatically sorted the pieces for you

>>519709629
nah it's a good glitchless game which works
has great OST
great bosses
load of content
and the price of 20 $

>>519709805
weird isn't it? Tons and tons of NPCs who've never heard of HK to begin with bought Silksong and then got subsequently filtered in the first 30 minutes

silksong's OK, but nowhere near as good as HK because it's ultimately a poorly-designed game with artificial difficulty out the ass, designed to get all the DUDE DIFFICULTY LMAO toxic cringe faggots to bandwagon while alienating the remaining 95% of the playerbase... nearly all the "difficulty" in the game comes from stupid bullshit like everything doing double damage, or virtually every boss spamming adds and/or environmental hazards with RNG rather than having actual mechanics you have to react to correctly.
the Steam achievements are hilarious, cause they show like nearly 70% of players have never made it to the even the mid-game

>>519703203 (OP)
It's peak, go cope

>>519705077
Zoomers wear the goat chest and golden fairy boots right?

Elden ring isnt as good as DS2

>>519705077
ds3 is boss rush zoomer trash for youtube/twitch streams. its not for people that want a real game. its also just shit member berries nonstop with rehashed plot. elden ring is just nonsensical empty world cut and paste piece of unfinished shit.

>>519711105
As expected of a MIGAtard

>>519708587
>tranny meme
>reddit spacing
>shitty opinion

Dark souls 2 is the best one along with the first game, and the bloodborne lore is really good but just read the wiki cuz the games mid. you can almost write off everything else they did

How did they get away with this?

>>519703203 (OP)
>one hour 51 mins

>>519709494
>compulsively 100%ing something you hate and expecting it to make you right

the arena was so sick, you could deck out your guy any type of way and slay BR Monsters. Faggot

>>519703203 (OP)
I enjoyed Dark Souls 2 and I don't care who knows it.

>>519711300
Such great bosses though

>>519711494
Hey a (You) oh its a canadian

Dark Souls 2 Ruled Brother :) there was an endless stream of fattys to hate fight

>>519708108
I'm still trying to beat malenia , it's been 2 weeks

>>519703203 (OP)
almost made me cry, but after beating the three sentinels I felt like I could do fucking anything

>>519703203 (OP)
retards can't tell the difference between story and background information
or difficulty from stat imbalance
they made a third one you know

>>519703203 (OP)
ultimate filter.

fromsoft peaked at bloodborne/dark souls 2

It's probably the most fun of these games but they're all extremely repetitive and at their core kind of simple. Almost every boss is just a case of doing it over and over until you get muscle memory and the levels are usually cool but full of gay shit that nobody wants to deal with (dogs, swamp bullshit, random deaths, whatever)

I have played them all once or twice but i feel like they will be looked back at negatively as the version of goyslop that dominated for around 10-12 years

>>519703547
brutal trvke

>>519710159
I'm torn on this because if you gamedev aren't you just encouraging more consooming?

>>519710159
>I literally CAN NOT find value in something unless it's tangible to others!
(You) are a woman, a fag, and/or a kike, resting on the laurels of your paltry few decades. Aging is the original "zero accomplishment hobby", and using it as your appeal proves you haven't any better authority to rest it on.

>>519712347
Also this. The story of all of these games is nonexistent largely because the jap that makes them is an egotistical faggot who has to think of these retarded ways to communicate autistic moments in his life
>oh one time it was snowy driving my car so multiplayer has to work bad in every game ive ever made
>oh i couldnt read english so i literally (literally) throw away half the story to every game i make so it seems mystical to gaijin

Interesting that ds2 enjoyers are fedora wearing fags who can never cite tangible reasons their game is supposedly good while always attacking the ds3/ER player base without giving good reasons why they the games themselves are inferior

unironically the same people who are making 2 hour YouTube videos about why they don't like the demon souls remaster

It's almost like they're homosexuals who have no idea what they are talking about. ds2 is objectively the worst souls

I've enjoyed every Soulsborne game
but ds2 fanboys deserve the rope

>>519711863
It's not a difficult game, and it's called being retrospective, midwit. It's not a good game once the novelty wears off and you revisit it after the fact

>>519712351
third plays better
>>519712555
>ds2 is objectively the worst souls
that would be demon's souls, but the first is worse than the second also

>>519712555
Dark souls 2 is fun because it has entertaining weapons and armor and the environments are mostly very pretty and cool

Also still open ended like the first game without becoming open world crap like eldenring. Ds3 is basically a hallway simulator

Dark souls 1 is imbalanced and shitty in like 75% of respects so basically that leaves us with ds2

Ds2 is way too easy though imo

>>519712555
999+ weapons to arrange on either hand + massive fashion + BR's everywhere in full havel, just because your a pussy doesnt mean its played out. I guess the servers are dead after all, but if they hadnt split the playerbase with Scholar it may have endured longer. Either way nothing an edgelord faggot like you can say will change reality, the game was peak

>>519712488
permanent peasant mind, likely not white too.

also my post was meant for first-world people anyway, so just forget that you read it.

>>519712555
>fedora wearing fags!
>muh difficulty

You dont even know why people loved this game

Fags hate on this masterwork because they have trauma from running into BRs and Spanish players who farmed giant lord for 2 weeks but they never cracked tha code
>difficulty

>>519713001
>this Soulsborne game is good cause it has weapons and N64 looking armor sets

I bet you rocked the butterfly set you buggard

>>519713110
you're right I don't because nobody has ever provided any sane reasons. The only cool additions ds2 added were things I actually contributed to the thread besides "lol, weapons and armor"

>>519713395
So why talk like an authority

>>519713280
The weirdest thing i have had people tell me is that they consider dark souls 2 to be too hard, to the degree of saying "its just hard for the sake of being hard"

>>519713108
Good argument, nigger. Would be crazy if my flag related to my location in ANY way, but it doesn't. You're devoid of value when no one can see you, and I am sorry for you.

>>519708587
filtered, skill issue, etc

>>519713566
No, the game was just a little training course loop that dumped out into the arena once you found it, and you could enjoy infinite overleveled BRs and a few variations of the usual and the very rare Zorro there. Its a rush if you win or lose to just keep fighting, it was awesome and there was a lot of stuff you could make work man what a blast I gotta replay it although the dead servers stings

Finished ds1 2 times, ds2 3 times, ds3 1 time and er 1 time.
Ds2 is not the worst imo, it's got it's own feel to it, i specially like the cenarios

Its not hard to figure out why such vocal pussies hated the game. They never experienced pic related or they assume it comes from perfectly mastered and memorized ballet against single player bosses, which it kinda does but not as much except at first

>>519713110
i don't either
it's an utterly generic action rpg with a heavy grind and non existent story
the combat system is basic clunky and never develops into anything more
they aren't especially bad games but i have no idea why anyone would think it's good

>>519714472
The huge variation in weapons begins to have interesting interactions when you played arena. Because everyone was struggling to establish or find the best 'meta' stuff and nothing really ever proved to be perfectly meta all around. If you didnt play the arena why do you even mention this game? the arena was the whole point. Its not FGC or something gay it was just fun fantasy

>>519713847
Yeah i have never even bothered to play any other dark souls game pvp, they have finally made seamless coop mods and etc too that i am kind of interested in trying
>>519714472
This post alone could describe any fromsoft game

You really didnt get a huge thrill out of treating toxic nightmare havel freaks in the arena as challenge levels? You think perfectly dancing with messmer after 500 memorization deaths is more rewarding you fucking FAGGIT?

>>519714622
why would i bother with internet shit in a singleplayer game, the combat engines of these titles already suck ass without adding netcode to the mix

>>519714845
>I didnt bother with it
>heres why it sucks
>single player game
Get the heck out dummy

>>519703203 (OP)
The forced PvP is fucking gay, sweaty ass retards ruining my SP gaming

>>519714804
you think anyone would get something out of an online minigame squeezed into a fromsoft title rather than any of the actually good made for purpose melee pvp games?
>>519714642
yes
i have some fond memories of souls and at least one of the kings field games
but i don't get the hype
still haven't finished ds3, got bored after the pontiff and just never went back

>>519715031
forced?
pretty sure all of the games had in universe items for refusing pvp
and beyond that you can just disable the online shit which in my opinion is a requirement unless you want orange shit all over the ground

>>519714845
There was a almost turn based pace to combat in multiplayer, where it was very easy and consistent to know what was going to do what. It wasnt like you couldnt tell what was going to hit and what wasnt, except running r1 katanas and spears and lances if you didnt roll perpendicular to the attack could have phantom range. That was basically the only exception and it was a bit frustrating sometimes but still, perpendicular roll would work and those guys were not the most challenging. I think you siked yourself out of a great experience

>>519703203 (OP)
it was my first dark souls game so it completely blew me away

>>519703203 (OP)
Firstly, I love the Souls series entirely. Each piss me off at some point, but I return to every entry because they are fun. Dark Souls II filtered me twice. Coming from DS/DS3, playing DS2 clunky controls irked me and made the combat not so engaging. I did not mind the enemy placement and I admit I was the goofball for getting mad at the game for mechanics I did not understand at first (Soul Memory/ AGI lvl/ cheese tactics I missed). Playing ER: SotE made me miss the combat style of the older games, so after beating SotE, went back to play DS2 and holy fuck, did I uninstall after getting to ivory king with a strength build and getting btfo several times due to the little fucking ice helpers NOT freezing the gate. Having learned that freezing the fire gates was an RNG act, Ivory King to this day is the only boss I did not conquer. Currently on another run and having fun. 100% Sekiro and ER but sometimes a slower fight is just as fun as a challenging boss that spams attacks and has small windows (100% ER without using STR/ purposely breaking boss poise)

IRON PASSAGE WAS ABSOLUTELY HELL AS A STRENGTH BUILD (me being a dumb fuck not using arrows cause bows are gay). Learning that blue smelter demon was a 100% optional boss was the final hit to my soul that made me hollow cause at the time I was only playing for a 100% achievement run and thought it lead to a spell. Fucking PTSD Passage will put hair on your chest for sure lol.

Anyways, all the souls games are good. All them have caveats. Absolutely NONE of them deserve to be hailed as #1 and that is the hill I will die on. . . As for fashion souls, Faraam set is kino, but Hunter Set/ Soul of Cinder Set/ Havel Set are strong contenders. ER had SHIT fashion until SotE (Meesmer set + Spear + Spells are KINO)

>>519715142
Cope harder faggot,
>play mortal kombat if u want the REAL deal

obviously you got monged by BR and his little decapitate gesture made you uninstall

>>519703203 (OP)
Miyazaki was busy with GOAT Bloodborne and let the creative team go loose this is the end result.

>>519714622
>I played ds2 for the PVP

This is testimony alone is enough to explain why it's the worst Souls. /thread

Dude, plus in the later games when you stabbed someone its like 3d models just passing through each other. In ds2, a rolling r1 with the Black Knight Sword would make a nasty, awesome splicksh noise which was very visceral and satisfying

>>519714472
>generic action rpg
dark souls games are not rpg it's a slasher as there is no role you can play in the game except mob slashing

>>519708587
Someone didn't level ADP

>>519703203 (OP)
with what, creating absolute kino?

>>519703547
Never played bloodbourne

>>519715423
don't know what that is
completed the first three games offline
got as far as twin sword pope and fell off before finding what was after him in ds3
>>519715468
bloodborne is best in series

>>519715525
You'll cowards dont even face BR

>>519703547
This is why I have "souls-like" filtered on steam.

>>519715678
So youre dismissive and aloof to the pvp despite not even playing the game into pvp phase, because otherwise you missed out, which would be over your mental pain threshhold?

>>519715570
cept in a slasher you are not massively underleveled compared to your opponents so they require either enemies who are an actual threat or swarms of shitty enemies
the souls series has small numbers of shitty enemies whose only chance against you is a temporary lack in numbers easily rectified
not good games

>>519703203 (OP)
soul memory triggers my autistic need to optimize in in RPGs, i fucking hated it. what were they thinking?

>>519715838
what are you even asking here
yes i dismiss out of hand multiplayer sidebits when judging a singleplayer game
it's that kind of stupidity that led to mw2 smearing itself around

>>519716142
Your low effort opinion has no value, you never 1v1 a BR on the summit of mt everest

>>519703203 (OP)
most people who hate DS2 are the ones who started with DS1 or 3. for those who started the series with Demon Souls understand that DS2 is more of a spiritual successor to Demon Souls rather than DS1 and can appreciate it more because of that

>>519703203 (OP)
Wrong board bot

Dark Souls 2 was the best and the arena was so fun! The more toxic the better the payoff. Golden fairy boot Bullgoat cringe toting zoomers will never know how it felt thats why they have to cope by posting dissertations on difficulty and art direction. My peers who hated on this game just got brutalized by the rude brown people or just went with the crowd