Thread 519709516

Why was it dissolved if 70% of the population voted to preserve it? Me thinks it's a sus aaaah thing cuh

It was a fake dissolution, Putin represents an unbroken chain of leadership he was the head of the FSB and KGB. Its still culturally communist. Its called late stage communism, when it inevitably fails and they have to embrace free market aspects. Same thing China did, basically state capitalism with culturally communist aspects.

Like on Turkeys border, all they did was let a few tiny countries break away for a buffer between Russia and NATO. Its not an accident, its preferrable. Their mistake was they planned for the baltic countries to fail and beg to be let back in, except they have higher standards of living. Thats what Russias actual goal in Ukraine is - not to win the war. If Russia cant control Ukraine, its going to make their lives hell so Russians arent jealous.

>>519709516 (OP)
It was elite driven, how can you still not understand this? They sold out everything to be part of western club.

>>519709516 (OP)
They moved to their next hosts, the European Union and America

>>519709516 (OP)
In March 1991, about 76% of voters across the USSR supported preserving the Union in some form (“a renewed federation of equal sovereign republics”). However, several key factors led to its collapse anyway:

1. Republic-level power grabs: Leaders like Boris Yeltsin in Russia, Leonid Kravchuk in Ukraine, and others were already asserting sovereignty and building independent state structures, effectively ignoring the referendum’s result.

2. The failed August Coup (1991): Hardline communists tried to seize control to stop reforms. The coup collapsed, but it fatally weakened the central government and discredited the Communist Party.

3. Elite and bureaucratic defection: Soviet ministries, military units, and even media began answering to republican governments instead of Moscow.

4. Economic chaos: Shortages, inflation, and collapsing trade networks eroded public confidence and made maintaining the union politically and logistically harder.

5. The Belavezha Accords (December 1991): Russia, Ukraine, and Belarus leaders signed an agreement dissolving the USSR and creating the CIS — effectively ending the Union without a new national referendum.

So while most ordinary citizens wanted to keep the USSR — reformed but united — the elite’s counter revolution made its survival practically impossible.

>>519709516 (OP)
Read New Lies for Old.

>>519709516 (OP)
Why did America pretend that they were a world power? They still do it with Russia today.

>>519709516 (OP)
It's rotten eltes who want to grab people's property for themself.

deprogram from elite control and study science

>>519709516 (OP)
Soviet Union wasn't a democratic country, you dork.

>>519709516 (OP)
jews

>>519709738
Exactly
Putin was selected by Yeltsin to continue the soviet union.
If I ever go to moscow im going to piss on Lenins body

>>519709516 (OP)
Because we did it

>>519709516 (OP)
>Why was it dissolved if 70% of the population voted to preserve it?
Lack of funding.

The Soviet Union was a dead man.
The idea to save it was the New Union treaty.
The Soviet Union would have been replaced by the Union of Sovereign States
6 republics of the USSR said no to the New Union treaty and wanted out period
Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Moldova, Georgia, and Armenia were out regardless
The remaining republics were good to go.
The new system would have been a heavily gimped federal state where the member state hold more power. I doubt it could have lasted long, but who knows.
The Communist party tried a last minute coup and it failed
This coup collapsed the New Union treaty. Azerbaijan and Ukraine no longer wanted to be part of the the Union of Sovereign States.
The end result is is the Belovezha Accords where Belarus, Russia, and Ukraine (because I guess the other soviet Republics didn't actually mater) formally disolve the USSR.
The continuing mother body that replaces the Soviet union is the Commonwealth of Independent States, which like the central Asians stans also really doesn't matter.

>>519709516 (OP)
I don't recall the Bolshevik Empire being a liberal democracy.

>>519709516 (OP)
>Why was it dissolved if 70% of the population voted to preserve it?
Actually people on voted to reformation of the USSR into the CIS.
Really.
Check referendum quotation
>Do you consider necessary the preservation of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics as a renewed federation of equal sovereign republics in which the rights and freedom of an individual of any ethnicity will be fully guaranteed?
Soviet republics were
neither equal
nor sovereign,
freedom of individuals of any ethnicity wasn't guaranteed.
CIS fixed all that.

"Population voted to preserve it" is butthurt commies attempt to rewrite history. Many such cases.

>>519709958
>“a renewed federation of equal sovereign republics”).
Literally spells ending USSR as Muscovites tyranny.

>>519709516 (OP)
>keep calm

>>519709516 (OP)
Yeltsin and Kravchuk wanted to get rid of Gorbachev so that they could be the kings of their own domains

>>519709643
Gorbachev didn't participate in Belovezha Accords.

>>519709516 (OP)
people made up entire histories (i.e. Ukraine) just to not be Soviet anymore, anybody who could grab onto an identity real or fake grabbed it and ran as far away as he could and apart from Belarus (who weren't fast enough) everyone is better off.

>>519709516 (OP)
the CIA dissolved it.

>>519709516 (OP)
We got 30 years of freedom. It was best time, 91-22

>>519714782
shut up faggot

>>519709516 (OP)
the leadership became liberal and didnt believe in communism anymore. they basically became just another decadent elite. and ofc they thought they could loot the country after the collapse (whitch they did). once we take our coutnries back from capitalists there has to be some defense mechanism against something like this happening again

>>519714797
why did you ruin yourselfs? you had a goid thing going...

>>519714891
wake up, you're in Portland and stop bringing up your halucinations and tiktok catch phrases as analysis. kys.

>>519714797
Based and truthpilled Ivan!

>>519714797
1991-2014

>>519714368
>Belovezha Accords
In the 1980s, Mikhail Gorbachev's policies of Glasnost (openness) and Perestroika (restructuring) aimed to revitalize the Soviet system but instead accelerated its unraveling.

>>519715321
What you meant to say is that Republics Presidents and Parliaments elected by people dissolved USSR and Gorbachev wasn't one who was elected by people and carried out their will.
>democracy bad or something

>>519714797
CIA VPN glowie, you are not a real russian.