Thread 519725454

I'm confused
Does the US obey international law or just lie to have more human sacrifices?

The US enforces international law but they don't have to follow it
Think it says that in the constitution

>>519725454 (OP)
>Does the US obey international law
We create international law. It is whatever we say it is, and it is only for other nations to obey.

>>519725454 (OP)
Explain the international law of international waters

>>519725454 (OP)
there is no such thing as international law
its just something they talk about to gaslight retards like you

>>519725454 (OP)
You just can't kill the heckin' fent dealers!!!

>>519725454 (OP)
Sateless vessels are not protected by international law

>>519725454 (OP)
>Actually it's illegal to kill drug smugglers trying to sneak into your country to commit crimes
What fucking retarded fantasy world to you live in?

WILL SOMEONE PLEASE THINK ABOUT THE DRUG PRICES? DO YOU KNOW HOW MORE MUCH DOOR DASHING ILL HAVE TO DO JUST TO GET HIGH?!?

>>519726715
This is true, there are only international agreements.

>>519725454 (OP)
>just arrest them!!
I love this
They're in 1000hp cigarette boats. Arrest them how exactly

>>519726885
Venezuela is the US?

>>519726885
What retarded fantasy believes speedboats are crossing the entire Gulf to take drugs to grandma?

>>519727396
By waiting for them to run out of gas
Helicopter

>>519726644
so if you murder somebody in international waters and it is seen i hope you dont think you can just reenter the us and not be arrested.

>>519725454 (OP)
No because we’re ruled satanic Jewish faggots

>>519725454 (OP)
Spics are not human tho

>>519727691
>Helicopter
You think that a helicopter, which has to take off from its base, fly out over the ocean to where the boat is, and burns fuel to stay in the air until it must return to base to refuel, can outendure a boat, which can turn off its engine and float indefinitely whenever it wants
Are you a child

>>519727149
Daunt.link

ITT:
>you should just shoot them in the leg

>>519726522
that's about right

>>519726522

LAMAO, I though that I was reading some commie rant against American imperialism and it ended up being a classical anti-jew rant. Those two have become indistinguishable.

>>519725454 (OP)
>international law
Never heard of him

>>519725454 (OP)
i thought the drug traffickers were cia

Why does it take liberals so long to understand that America can do whatever it wants internationally because nobody will try and stop us? The major powers (China, Russia, and US) have a sort of agreement to never directly confront each other and no other nation on earth could actually stop us, especially in our own back yard.

Just accept we are going to continue bombing these boats. Venezuela can seethe all they want m, they cannot stop this. They cannot slow it down. The bombings will continue, and the left will screech into a void as they always do

There are some international laws regarding borders, maritime borders, airspace and right of way of ships and planes. Everything else is up to debate.

>>519728257
If you use violence as a means to enforce your interests, the others will regard you as a bully. Of course you can do that, but it has consequences even if they are not directly visible.

>>519728508
henlo dreidelnigger!

>>519725454 (OP)
>international law
why aren't the international police arresting them for these crimes?

>>519728659
i don't think interpol has boats

>>519725454 (OP)
Id be intested in knowing what court op thinks international law resides?

>>519728312
O yes, and what court upholds these laws?

>>519728839
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Criminal_Court

is this thread just filled wit underaged kids?

>>519727899
How do you think they got photos?

>>519727969
Nah it's
>Trust the heccin government

>>519725454 (OP)
Neither the US nor Venezuela are signatories to the agreement which forbids killing in international waters, oddly. Of all the South American nations to start bombing, this was a great coincidence

>>519725454 (OP)
>"International law"

>>519728659
What crime

>>519729100
You mean, by choice

>>519729158
>International law, also known as public international law and the law of nations, is the set of rules, norms, legal customs and standards that states and other actors feel an obligation to, and generally do, obey in their mutual relations. In international relations, actors are simply the individuals and collective entities, such as states, international organizations, and non-state groups, which can make behavioral choices, whether lawful or unlawful. Rules are formal, typically written expectations that outline required behavior, while norms are informal, often unwritten guidelines about appropriate behavior that are shaped by custom and social practice.[1] It establishes norms for states across a broad range of domains, including war and diplomacy, economic relations, and human rights.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_law

>>519728960
For example the International Tribunal for the Law of the Sea – ITLOS. Of course you can try to solve everything with guns, but that usually ends in a war.

>>519729391
Isn't trump starting that next week

>>519725454 (OP)
>international law
There's no such thing as international law, America is the highest authority in the world. There is no one to "hold us responsible" for anything.

I say that as someone who will be happy when the entire modern world shits itself to death and we return to the 1800s. America IS the world authority and WILL BE the only authority until that day.

>>519729391
Ah, a drivelling tribunal. With no powers. How's that working in the south China sea?

>>519728083
"american" imperialism is jewish imperialism
you fucking retard

>>519729391
>The laws upheld by America and enforced by America
Cannot be used against America.

Laws only go in one direction. Top down. Only successful rebels get to hold the standing authority to a standard. America is essentially the entire world's law and military. The penalty for everything in international politics is "America will punish you".


Once this toxic peace ends billions will die, but the world will be better afterwards.

>>519729047
>see drug boat
>blow it up
vs
>see drug boat
>hover around until you run out of fuel, burning a shitton of Jet A and putting hours on an expensive engine and airframe, and have to go back to base having achieved nothing

Only one of these things prevents the boat full of drugs from reaching your country. It also changes the calculus of the people running the drugs, since they now have to price in the cost of sudden horrible death from above, and the longer that publicly goes on the less and less inclined people will be to try
You can't stop a cigarette boat with a cutter, because the cigarette boat will go to light speed when a cutter is spotted. You can stop it with a missile

>>519725454 (OP)
The US is international law so technically no it can’t break it

>>519729779
Yep
All rightwingers dead
Have fun with your 20
>>519729833
>Flies around
>Flies around
Lol

>>519728508
Violence is the exclusive authority from which all authority derives. Violence is the backing of every law and every right. Violence IS authority.
The laws are what the government says it will kill the people over.
The rights are what the people say they'll kill the government over.

Society is a network of violent threats.

>>519729898
>All rightwingers dead
Lmao we've got all the guns and food and production, you've got all the HIV patients.

>>519729898
It's going to be a long 8 years for you

>>519729837
I look forward to your pleas on brasil

Friendly reminder that international law is just "excuse to bully anyone I don't like"

>>519730010
>Noo we have guns
Show me the usage rates
You can't
>>519730081
>Muh number
You have ibs

>>519729929
Oof, you are extreme. Nah, I disagree, normal humans can engange in non-violent manner and discuss their problems like gentlemen.

>>519729779
China has a pretty big navy now. The US is reluctant to confront them for a good reason.

>>519729598
It works. China is building little islands to gain some new borders and everyone is actually respecting this in some form because they fear the big stick.

Who in their right mind wants a new world war? You fuckers are insane.

>>519728508
All interests of every state are enforced by violence, you moron. Literally all state power, followed to its logical endpoint, is a man with a gun.
You can test this by refusing to comply with any law you choose. It may take a longer or shorter while, depending on which law you decide not to comply with, but eventually, you will meet the man with the gun, and then you will either comply or die.

>>519725454 (OP)
The only law is the power of violence and the willingness to use it.

>>519730453
>Nah, I disagree
Well it's not subjective.
You, and all of your ancestors for half a million years, have lived in the threat network.
>normal humans can engange in non-violent manner and discuss their problems like gentlemen.
So long as they are protected cradle to grave inside a network of threats.

>Literally Who-stein has an opinion on twitter.
/pol/ literally cannot ever recover from this.

>>519730475
Don't call me a moron please. Also you are wrong. We have many international institutions on many different subjects and the nations are free to join them or not. Of course you can always choose violence, but that always ends in disaster.For some reason there is this idea that nations can act like tribes - random and violent - which is a funny notion to me because that kind of behaviour is not acceptable even at the lowest level of societies. Funny shit.

>>519729047
They went out with the assault just to get those photos. Doesn't mean they won't run out of fuel.

>>519727691
What if the helicopter runs out of gas?

>>519725454 (OP)
When you’re the global hegemon you ARE international law.

>>519725454 (OP)
Which one of your primos or tios was it this time, paco? uncle pedro? cousin sancho?

>>519728257
>Why does it take liberals so long to understand that America can do whatever it wants internationally because nobody will try and stop us?
Just because we can, doesn't mean we should. If you want people to play ball, you play nice with them.

>>519730215
>Show me the usage rates
Guns are used in legal self defense by civilians hundreds of thousands of times a year.

If you're referring to rebellion, American citizens have killed more state employees in single days in living memory than in the last forty years of your country combined.

>>519730798
I would expect this kind of reasoning from a Soviet. But from a US citizen? What happend to freedom and equality of man? Everything must happen at gunpoint and under threat? That's a poor and very pessimistic existence. Man is capable of far greater things.

>>519727751
turd worlders arenot "somebody" they are not human

kys jeet, drop the vpn

>>519725454 (OP)
>I'm confused

troon yourself, the most infertile jews the better

>ideally we should target jew women, but fags work too

>>519729898
>Killing drug smugglers is too far and it's illegal and you can't do that and and and
>Also kill everyone who doesn't agree with me
Lmfao and you genuinely think you're a good person.

>>519728508
>the others will regard you as a bully.
Oh no!
>>519728508
>but it has consequences even if they are not directly visible.
The consequence is the strong get what they want and the weak cry and seethe

>>519729353
>International law, also known as public international law and the law of nations, is the set of rules, norms, legal customs and standards that states and other actors feel an obligation to, and generally do, obey in their mutual relations. In international relations, actors are simply the individuals and collective entities, such as states, international organizations, and non-state groups, which can make behavioral choices, whether lawful or unlawful. Rules are formal, typically written expectations that outline required behavior, while norms are informal, often unwritten guidelines about appropriate behavior that are shaped by custom and social practice.[1] It establishes norms for states across a broad range of domains, including war and diplomacy, economic relations, and human rights.

>>519729047
Satellites and drones, taconigger.

>>519730453
>China has a pretty big navy now. The US is reluctant to confront them for a good reason.
Hmm, it's almost like violence and the threat of violence is an effective deterrent.
>everyone is actually respecting this in some form because they fear the big stick.
And here you again contradict what you've been saying and acknowledge that violence or the threat of violence is the source of authority, just like the anon you called extreme said.

>>519730453
>China has a pretty big navy now
Hahahahahahahaha China who inflates their naval tonnage numbers by painting fishing ships blue, who hasn't won a naval engagement since the invention of the engine, and who's naval history was an endless series of disasters even before then.

China who to this day thinks parking a mortar on a cargo ship makes it a war vessel.
China afraid of little Taiwan lol

>>519725454 (OP)
>international law
Bitch, we ARE the international law.

>>519731132
>I would expect this kind of reasoning from a Soviet. But from a US citizen? What happend to freedom and equality of man? Everything must happen at gunpoint and under threat? That's a poor and very pessimistic existence. Man is capable of far greater things.
You are only able to believe these things because of the people with guns who maintain the stable, peaceful, orderly situation you enjoy. All of your beliefs are luxuries afforded to you by men willing to do violence on behalf of your society and your laws.
None of us will change your mind here because emotionally you are not ready to accept the reality of life, which is fine. We need people like you who accept the comforting lies and do what they are told.

>>519731001
Then you're doing it right
Dei right
>>519730966
>Nooo the heccin fuel
How far is 8 miles off Venezuela from the US?

>>519731106
Lot of words liberal
Show

>>519727574
That is exactly what they doing and have been for years. The US coast guard has been intercepting them for decades, now policy was changed to just destroy them.

>>519731284
Why are you upset at going to Heaven?

>>519731888
Venezuela is close AF from the US, numerals anon

>>519725454 (OP)
Nations can justify pretty much anything. In America's case illicit drug mitigation and curbing illegal migration hasn't been honored by our neighbor nations, so now the illegal migrants from their nations are just being considered an invasion force. This is what happens when you refuse to hold up your end of the deal, we solve the problem on our own terms and any of your complaints be damned.

>>519731941
Cause trump wants war
Got to wag the dog

>>519727574
>Why would somebody do something dangerous and illegal for millions of dollars? You must be crazy!

>>519725454 (OP)
The idea of international law is gay and cucked. We all sit here bitching about how we don't want a one world government and troons say things like: "BUT HES VIOLATING INTERNATIONAL LAW CHUDDY!"

>>519731982
How far

>>519730916
>For some reason there is this idea that nations can act like tribes - random and violent - which is a funny notion to me because that kind of behaviour is not acceptable even at the lowest level of societies.
It is entirely acceptable and the way the world actually works. Your country is a lot smaller than it was a century ago -- why is that? Because violence was applied to your ancestors until they begged for the killing to stop. My country stretches from one side of a continent to the other because violence was applied to its earlier inhabitants. Right now we face the small but increasing likelihood of violent coercion from our southern neighbor.

It's a rare world leader who doesn't have the blood of at least a few tens of thousands of people, and more likely millions, on his hands. Hopefully we're at the end of a particularly open example of ethnic cleansing in the Middle East, which we all tacitly supported, and for which those responsible, as members in good standing of the Blood Soaked Hands club, will never face any form of earthly justice. Ditto in Ukraine, where millions have been killed and nobody responsible will ever face any form of earthly justice.

And, of course, all states are violent, because violence is what a state is. If you take any bit of state authority, no matter how innocuous or even pointless, and follow it back to its ultimate logical conclusion, you find a man with a gun. If you disobey the state in any way they notice, eventually they'll send a man with a gun to either kill you or make you comply. States could not exist without that.

>Don't call me a moron please.
Fine, I'm sorry for that.

>>519732217
pretty close to Florida, like a few hours flying..
and it has oil, lots of it
and israel doesn't benefit directly from invading it
it's a good opportunity to be independent from the traitorous Saudis
and, don't fool yourself, Trump's "barking" and not "biting" is valid AF, mMaduro can be, very well, be ousted by it

>>519728083
It's almost as if kikes have controlled America since before the Revolutionary War...

>>519728083
Your Jewish president sold your water to Isreal…

>>519731132
>But from a US citizen?
The USA was created by cop killers who said the government has to perpetually live in physical fear of violent uprising.

>What about freedom?
Freedom is the state of all your enemies being threatened into compliance.


>Everything must happen at gunpoint and under threat
Everything DOES happen under threat you retard.


>That's a poor and very pessimistic existence. Man is capable of far greater things.
It's how man has always lived and always will live, there's nothing pessimistic about it when you're not poisoned with the insane idea that peace = good.
It's your contrary idea, to deny reality and deny violence (without in any way actually changing the situation) that has lead to the unnecessary violent deaths of more people in a century than in all of recorded history before, and will lead to billions of more unnecessary violent deaths before we cure your disease of peace worship.

>>519731728
Someone sees through the fog. We can afford not to be retarded about this process and actually execute competently though, right?

>>519725454 (OP)
maritime law

use googles gpts or ur boyfriend's dragon dildos

>>519732514
>Hours
Aren't you metric?

>>519733264
Venezuela is 6.000.000 hamburgers away from south Florida

>>519725454 (OP)
International Law?!?

>>519725454 (OP)
They are trying to rationalize the US governments bombings. I saw a broadcast from Venezuelan media state that the US destroyed a fishing boat, could have been verified if they occupants were arrested instead of killed.

Historically sometimes the priest caste has ruled over the warrior caste and sometimes the warrior caste has ruled over the priest caste.
That should tell you something. That violence is very powerful, but so are beliefs and ideology. Neither is always and clearly above the other.

>>519734192
Beliefs and values are organizational structures OF violence. The priests rule when enough violence is on their side. Morale, politics, consensus, these are all structures around threats. Perceptions and emotions DO effect how many men you can bring to the field.

Authority is violent threat. This isn't disputed by one class or another wielding more violence at some point.

>>519725454 (OP)
I don't respect international law and I don't think we should obey it.

>>519725454 (OP)
It's incredible to see how the US has become a demented terrorist state.
At least in the past they pretended they did things for the greater good, to make the world better and stop actually bad people.
Now its just kike bloodlust for goyim blood, unchecked, completely demented and without clear reason. Just chaos and insanity.
And seeing /pol/ cheer for ZOG has been the most astonishing thing out of all this.

>>519727969
>>you should just shoot them in the leg
Yes Congressman, I tried shooting the smuggler in the leg.
-And, how did that go?
Sir, we were using 500 pound laser guided munitions. There is no way it missed his leg.

>>519734550
If people believe in the idea of international laws and in the wisdom of this institution or that, then it will have power even if there is no soldier formally tasked with enforcing it.

>>519725454 (OP)
the US lies, obviously.
like its domestic policy regarding its people, the international laws are for others to follow, not they themselves.

america is a nation of liars, propagating lies, hoping that the most retarded cattle will uphold those laws, while the ones in power break those very laws, knowing that the judges and cops are in their pocket, if not accomplices in their crimes.

fuck the US, fuck the western world and fuck modern civilization.
burn it all down, and the ruling/political/government class along with it (which includes masons)