Thread 519789918

you ready to die for israel in venezuela goys?

>>519789918 (OP)
just like when the us army was preparing for war with panama, greenland, mexico and canada?

>>519789918 (OP)
wouldn't require a draft

>>519789918 (OP)
Tappers, where we at?!

>>519790035
was us bombing boats there and building up a naval force?

>>519789918 (OP)
Isn't this the Netanyahu playbook? Starting conflicts to distract from various legal and moral issues surrounding the state and it's actors?

>>519789918 (OP)
you lost, tranny

>>519789918 (OP)
Should've given the orange man his noble prize. Now he has nothing to lose.

>America to fight a foe that is supported by Russia and China
>America is about to learn what a fiber optic drone can do to heavy equipment

10 bucks says its an air campaign with no real boots on the ground, they arent ready for this.

>>519790265
Netanyahu didn't invent it, it's one of the oldest plays in the book

>>519790381
Noble prize in war crimes

>>519790161
this, probably would only need a few thousand ground troops max to completely destroy Venezuela in a week or so

you russians really hate how the slavic-jewish community abandoned you after WW2, don't you. must suck to not be American.

>>519790456
Netanyahu definitely beat that dead horse into a fine paste. It's so fucking obvious to see now.

>>519790420
>>519790420
us is in a economic depression atm. its either war of watch the economy collapse around them. the big capitalists backing have to prop the this war economy somehow.

>>519789918 (OP)

Finally a country where good ol' American boys can get some fine ass war brides.

>>519789918 (OP)
It’s not gonna be a war. They will be liberated and they will be celebrating in the street.

>>519790035
Greenland will happen.

>>519790307
Doesn't matter, wretch. Because you lost evolution.

keynesian war economic system id only thing keeping the us afloat at this. same thing with Russia. every time russia bombs or invades and starts a new war, its cause oil prices go down. invading venezuela will cause massive oil spike.

Reminder: El Chapo's son was captured by the US earlier this year and made deals with the authorities, revealing everything he knew about the drug trafficking scheme.
The US now has evidence that several Latin American countries are governed by people with direct links to criminal organizations. These organizations finance several leftist movements on the continent (and also around the world, when possible), which is why you will see shills trying to confuse the public on social media, insinuating that it is American imperialism after oil, when the US is systematically attacking several fronts of Latin American criminal organizations linked to international drug trafficking, which finances leftist parties and organizations.

>>519789918 (OP)
Venezuela has the largest proven oil reserves on earth. Invasion was inevitable

>>519790641
>Say the line, mutt!

>>519790616
Desert Storm was a long time ago

Asymmetric warfare is in a much better place today than ever before. I sincerely doubt they intend to put boots on the ground before the US has an answer to the problems of sea drones, fiber optic drones and kamikaze drones.

Air superiority will still destroy their conventional capabilities, but if China and Russia gives them access to their factories and drone capabilites, this will be a bloodbath for the ground forces.

>>519790509
I wouldn't say it'd be that easy, not after Afghanistan and Iraq, but the goal wouldn't be to completely destroy the place or occupy it long-term
They just want regime change and to get Maduro out
So yeah just airstrikes and shit like that

>>519790879
you'll be dead soon bolsy boy

>>519790562
And he's gonna get away with all of it too that's the crazy part
even now Israel is still pushing into Syria while they're trying to set up their new CIA-backed "moderate" Islamic government there, and the USA is like
>hey stop fucking with south syria, we're trying to do something there
>Netanyahu: "OH ok Sorry : )" *keeps fucking with it*

Amerifats are irrelevant.
Banking and Jews are controlling USA, and they will send golems forward in the name of democracy.

>>519790616
Latinas are not for marrying
They turn into bowling balls when they turn 25

i hate both sides i hope both sides kill each other kek

>>519789918 (OP)
I have family in Venezuela that’s under constant surveillance and threats by Maduro’s thugs. Sign me up!

>>519790307
draft officers are on their way to you

>>519790248
Just out here tappin harder and harder err day

>>519791265
A draft officer just flew over my house

>>519791265
this wouldn't require a draft
sorry hans

>>519790879
I guess they learned from Iraq that the regime change excuse doesnt work too well to wage war, now they added alleged drug trafficking to the mix and have been killing fishermen to reinforce that notion.

>>519790641
Yes they will be dancing in the street so they can lose their socialized health care and lose their property when they get sick. On behalf of your nation, you need to kys.

>>519789918 (OP)
President of Peace btw

>>519790967
oh yeah for sure, Trump will probably solve it with precision strikes on Maduro's super secret bunker and a couple of tweets

>>519791452
The eradication of communism in the western hemisphere will bring peace.

>>519789918 (OP)
All talk. faggots won't do shit.

>>519791499
Then they will find out the hard way that Maduro is paying off Chavez' buddies to stay in power. Machado will be shot (as deserved) and the war will go into the jungle. It's coming... America is gonna be droned but good, and I can't wait.

>>519791452
It's simple, anon
just don't formally declare war
now you still haven't started any new wars

>>519790960
>sea drones

If your example of success is Ukraine, Russia has a historically pathetic navy. The US Navy fleet has a range so large that I am doubtful any country could seriously threaten an US ship, let alone a fucking Air Carrier and not to mention a weak ass military like Venezuela who has no sea drones, just some Iranian regular drones.

Besides its a mute point. Venezuela doesnt have a real military. To put it in perspective there are 40 soldiers for every general and their training is more focused in fighting protesters than any military. Venezuela has no technology, no real chain of comand and barely any incentive to resist considering that including the military there is about 70%-80% disapproval of the regime. The rank and file dont want to die for anyone, there's no Muhammed, no charismatic leader. Just a bunch of thugs that kidnapped the country with the help of Russia, China and Iran.

>>519790930
Leaf, go back to plebbit.

>>519790035
Didn't Panama already happen?

>>519790381
They had to give the price to a US agent named María Corina Machado:
https://nitter.poast.org/BrianJBerletic/status/1977265734859493579#m

>>519791670
most notably Venezuela's Navy is very small, it's basically just a coast guard
I think they have 2 frigates and a dozen or so Patrol Craft

the best stuff they have is their air force which is still something like 30 4th-gen russian fighters

I dont care about venezuala but anytime someone says its about drugs just know they are lying. Just ask them to be honest and admit its for oil.

I had enough of this shit 23 years ago and back then they still hadnt cleaned all the guts up in manhattan.

>>519789918 (OP)
>Trump is trying to pander to the Latinx support by attacking Madurofags
>White Gringofags have to die for my pleasure
We are eating good boys

>>519791771
oh they also have a few old submarines
to be fair

>>519790420
Probably the Libya technique

>>519791813
The whole reason this is happening is thanks to Marco Rubio. He’s a die-hard anti-communist. I don’t think he gives a shit about oil, though maybe he could’ve used oil as a selling point to Trump. I’m just glad that something is finally being done to combat communism in our hemisphere.

>>519790967
Mostly airpower and special operations getting shit done these days, it's not gonna be like the Ukraine at all

>>519791057
Spoken like a true shit skin

>>519791995
The USA fought with Stalin in WW2. The USA ARE the communists.

>>519791670
It takes hours to retrofit waterjets with warheads and send hundreds at a time against, let's say, an amphibious landing ship. I don't doubt that the us will absolutely destroy the Venezuelan navy but if they are serious about fighting an asymmetric battle against us forces, the technology to do so is already readily available.

But yeah i dont know anything about Maduro's regime or their willingness to fight, or their capacity to develop novel systems. In all likelihood, it's a cakewalk for the US.

Especially if their general-to-soldier ratios are as bad as you say.

>>519792096
one of my earliest redpills was learning about what Patton said after the war about how we fought the wrong enemy
then looking into that more and discovering that Hitler was trying to prevent Stalin from taking over Europe first

Alone Venezuela can't resist. But with Colombia and Brazil it could put up a decent fight. America looks strong on paper but only has a couple spare carriers and accompanying destroyers. A concerted attack could destroy half the fleet in a night. America would be unable to respond without opening the rest of its navy to attack by BRICS. The question is whether the leaders of the 3 are clever enough to realize it can be done. If not, it's curtains for democracy in South America.

>>519792096
FDR was a one-time phenomenon. Outside of him the U.S. hasn’t really been an accomplice to communist expansion.

>>519792209
I don't think Colombia and Brazil are too eager to jump into a losing war against the United States
especially not on behalf of the Maduro regime

>>519790161
>>519790509
Day 1 of the Special Military Operation in Venezuela.

>>519792209
Colombia and Brazil are not going to intervene. Petro and Lula might want to, but they don’t have enough power individually to get the rest of their government on board with it. They aren’t full-fledged dictators (yet)

>>519792209
the other problem with your scenario is that you aren't thinking past what would happen IF somehow those 3 banded together and actually DID manage to severely cripple or destroy our naval assets

you think that means the war ENDS?
you're sorta right, but it doesn't end the way you think after that

>>519792209
And Peru, Ecuador, Chile and Argentina are ready to block them

>>519789918 (OP)
every 20 years or so we have to topple some thirld world dump to let the punks know what's up

>>519790960
We would establish naval blockades and air superiority in a weeks if not days.

There is zero hope of foreign aid for Venezuela once a kinetic strike begins.

Better hope they already have what they need.

>>519792298
>everything is Ukraine

>>519792096
Hmmm now that you bring it up the guns used to killed Nick and his family did look familiar...

Maduro mad and scared

>>519792187
I got told for years that was a fake quote and people have outright called Patton a Nahzee for it. Die hard conservatives no less

>>519792429
crazy thing is there were reports circulating a week or 2 ago that Maduro had already offered a deal to the USA giving us basically everything we'd want
>decouple from china and russia
>preferable trade deals for oil and minerals with the USA
but we said NO

presumably because of Rubio
what they really want is regime change

>>519791813
Its not about drugs nor oil entirely, Its about influence and regional stability. Venezuela not only holds a record for most state sponsored kidnappings of American Citizens, but international ones. They regularly interfere with elections in the region (including the US) and even some European countries like Spain are often bought off. They caused the largest migration recorded in the Americas, they do send gangs disguised as refugees to carry out hits and destabilize the region, they do send massive amounts of drugs, they provide financing for terrorist organizations and worse than that, they nationalize terrorist from Iran backed groups like Hezbolah, Hamas, Houthies, ect whom otherwise would have no presence in the region. They are the only american country building Iranian drones and constantly parade Russian military, they basically sustain other dictatorships like Cuba and Nicaragua.

Its a lot of stuff. I am actually surprised no US president did anything about it until Trump.

>>519792487
>>519792487
>crazy thing is there were reports circulating a week or 2 ago that Maduro had already offered a deal to the USA giving us basically everything we'd want
Same thing happened in Afghanistan and they were gonna have over bin Laden but the CIA and Mossad had other plans

>>519792487
Rubio knows what’s up. He isn’t like those other politicians in Washington who don’t know shit about Latin America.

>>519792361
Venezuela has the largest oil reserves in the entire world. ExxonMobil shareholders deserve to profit from South American oil.

>>519792487
>what they really want is regime change

I believe you are correct, Sir.

>>519792571
What, because he's half cuban or whatever?
please, he's just a neocon

>>519790930
>the literal cuck country

>>519790420
Isn't Venezuela far too away from Russia and China to be supported properly?

>>519792561
yeah it was never about bin laden
he died of kidney failure in 2005 and we just kept on trucking

>>519790420
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/IQHjhBq7cwE

>>519792487
Would you actually trust Maduro to fuck his end of the bargin?

>>519792140
I’m sure we’re already gathering intel on munitions depots and equipment stores. Any strike (even asymetric) would likely be choreographed well in advance and countered. We have a lot of reach these days. Stand-off munitions could cripple the majority of response capability within hours and then you’re just dealing with the aftermath of insurgents for an eternity.

>>519792248
Then they will be defeated, because it's brutally obvious they are next.

>>519789918 (OP)
>time to spend $5000000000000000000000000 on another war that will achieve nothing at all.
If we were going to conquer these countries and turn them into US territories it might actually be worth it.
But for some reason that's not allowed.
It's not like these countries are governing themselves anyway.

>>519792779
probably not

>>519792809
Very few Venezuelans are loyal to Maduro. If there was to be an insurgency we wouldn’t even need boots on the ground, anti-Maduro Venezuelans massively outnumber pro-Maduro loyalists and would gleefully slaughter them.

>>519792487
To be fair, we are going to get the same deals Maduro offered from the opposition and hopefully a more stable ally than a dying dictatorship.

Venezuelas regime has constantly broken agreements with the US, last one being the Barbados accord under Biden which started all of this. There's absolutely no reason to trust them.

>>519792342
Those nations don't have anything. Not the economy, not the weapons, or the people.

>>519792487
You’re going to just trust Maduro to be the good guy and work in US interest all of a sudden?

What we need is somebody who will be popular with the people and work extensively with US interests in the background. They likely don’t have confidence in Maduro doing any of that in sincerity.

>>519792365
Brazil has plenty of industry.

>>519792911

>US territories

There are unironically talks inside Venezuela about wanting to join the US. Its not broad, unlikely to happen, unlikely for the American public to want it, but I'd say its more possible than at any other point in history

>>519792619
Glass houses.

>>519789918 (OP)
Yes, but then they'd have to pay troops..

>>519793118
>What we need is somebody who will be popular with the people and work extensively with US interests in the background.
That would be Maria Corina Machado

>>519792546
I reject your reality and instead I believe they are all just innocent hard working fishermen and fathers.

>>519792660
Yes. Extremely so.

>>519793156
>There are unironically talks inside Venezuela
ah yes, like the Free Buryatia organization.
>HQ: Langley

>>519792911
Machado means to let the oil companies take all the oil (Venezuelans will be denied the job... they will bring in Indians) and rent out the homes as Airbnbs. She will let her people starve, and slaughter them with American weapons when they rebel.

>muh drugs
>muh communism
ZOG niggers do not care about anything that isn't sucking jewish cock

>>519793118
>>519793025
I suppose I can see the logic behind it then
If Maduro is that easy to topple and replace

just have to sell it to the public (read: Republicans, democrats hate anything Trump does no matter what)

>>519791428
>social health care
Lol, lmao even.
>property
ok you have to be trolling.

>>519792365
True. A competent foe that is serious about putting up a fight would stockpile these capabilities, but yeah does not look like Venezuela has those abilities.
>>519792660
Obviously, it's not that difficult to manufacture RC components and fibre optic spools. But I got a first-world bias, Venezuela is most likely not thinking about these things seriously. In Ukraine they domestically manufacture most of the components that go into an fpv now. If I were a crazed dictator wanting deterrence against us intervention, I would be stockpiling the technology required to retrofit civilian crafts, manufacture fibre optic drones and otherwise build up an asymmetric warfighting capability.

But seeing as they bragged about 5k shitty AA missiles for S-300s (?) I doubt these people are learning the right lessons.

>>519792809
Us intelligence is the best the world has ever seen. So i don't doubt that the choreographed attack would systematically dismantle their capabilities before they can be used. I'm just arguing the obvious, that asymmetric warfare has gained notable ground against conventional armies, if the supply chains and strategy embrace it fully.

But yeah, cut off from their friends in the east, they won't be able to hastily put together anything of note unless they have been stockpiling for years already. Theoretically, they could amass the required components in underground, bunker-buster-proof shelters. But i doubt these people are serious enough to do any of this.

>>519792546
Why has congress not seen any of this evidence nor has the case been made to the american public if its so strong?

>>519789918 (OP)
This is about Iran btw (who would have guessed it?) Venezuela and Iran are basically running a mini strategic alliance. Iran’s been shipping gas and crude to Venezuela, helping repair its refineries, and both are finding ways around US sanctions - think barter deals, shadow fleets, and non-dollar banking. Politically, they back each other against the West in the UN and push anti-US rhetoric hard. Militarily, there are reports of Iranian advisors, tech transfers, even drone know-how. But the biggest factor is probably pic related. The US and Israel are sweating bullets because there's been a nuclear arms race ever since Israel's unprovoked attacks on Iran's sovereignty in June for obvious reasons

>>519793560
>Us intelligence is the best the world has ever seen
give the devil his due, anon
that title clearly belongs to Mossad

>>519790879
The government didnt need an informant to tell them about the cartels. The cia creates, backs and destroys cartels. They have since the very beginning. Meet spooks that have been on the ground in LATAM and talk to them. I have talked to spooky contractors, door kickers, Intel and spook pilots who all said there was targeted cartels/drug facilities and protected ones. They back some and work with them and destroy the other ones. I think the overall mission is two fold 1 create chaos so the cartels dont unite and form a real organized well funded threat and 2 skim money back for black money/black projects.

>>519790420
Russia and China have no way of resupplying Venezuela in a conflict, unless Brazil or Colombia cooperate, which they are unlikely to do.

>>519793550
Best to not waste time with those people. Don’t expect them to know shit about other countries outside of their own.

>>519793024
Big if true. I can’t say I’m familiar with Venezuelan sentiment on the ground. If it would go as you say, then I support it. I think at this point all Chinese, Russian, and Iranian influence should be obliterated from the America’s without exception. They have proven to be adversarial and wreckless and act in direct conflict with western interests. Get them out.

>>519793648
You serious now? Mossad? The people who failed to respond adequately to October 7? Mossad was supposed to be world-leading in HUMINT, but they failed to detect or even deter a massive terrorist attack that happened in their own sandbox.

Sure, they did some insane stuff in Iran, but I wouldn't say Mossad is what it was under Golda Meir

>>519793815
They let it happen you braindead moron.
>they didn't detect it
This post is so fucking delusional only a kike making up bullshit could have made it.

>>519793648
US intelligence and Israeli intelligence are to each other what the right hand and the left hand are to each other.

>>519793815
>The people who failed to respond adequately to October 7?
Anon, they let Oct 7th happen
The knew it was coming and purposely stood down and were lax in their response
It justified everything that came after and saved Netanyahu from a perilous political situation domestically

>>519793942
Sure, but I'd give the edge to Mossad if they were against each other

>>519792298
Spics are retarded mother fuckers though

>>519793124
And they’re going to what? Smuggle military aid through the Amazon? There are virtually no routes by land.

Ship to Venezuelan ports defended by US naval air and sea assets? Cope

Fly cargo aircraft over heavily monitored tired air space? Cope

You idiots voted for this lmao

>>519793791
You are rigth, I guess Venezuela is so irrelevant that anons just type random shit, is hilarious.

>>519794080
watch them build a ho chi min path through the amazonas and use some hick tribes as ammo carriers

>>519793912
>>519793994
They did not let it happen. They systematically failed on every level to respond adequately to intelligence that Hamas was about to do something, and they then failed to send reinforcements to the soldiers at the border.

Hamas went analogue; the people who saw them train for the operations were ignored due to bias towards digital intelligence, saying Hamas preferred the status quo. They talked one narrative on the phone and another using analogue techniques.

Saying Mossad or Shin Bet for that matter, allowed this to happen for netanyhao to launch a war is foolish. Israel took a massive hit that day, and it was not planned.

>>519793800
Because you know your time is short, demon.

>>519794139
Fuck yes

>>519794233
>They systematically failed on every level to respond adequately to intelligence that Hamas was about to do something, and they then failed to send reinforcements to the soldiers at the border.
Yeah
On purpose

>>519794020
That's like saying the HUMINT division has an edge over the satellite division of the same organization, or that the Middle East division has an edge over the East Asian division. Ultimately, they all work for the same master, but with their own specializations and areas of focus.

>>519794233
>33

>>519790456
It's called, "Let's You And Him Fight!" that Israel excels so much at.

>>519794233
>Israel took a massive hit that day
Self inflicted hit, even going as far a raining down missiles on their own.
And this is all proven, from the IDF themselves.

>>519793469
Yes orange man bad of course. Nothing he does at this point will be viewed from the left with any amount of further analysis.

I think securing the America’s (if done in a short timeframe without extensive costs) prior to the shitstorm coming from Russia/Iran/China is of high geopolitical and military strategic value.

>>519794080
drones you soon-to-be-dead pos. (This is ANTIFA BTW... we're coming to rip your ass open...)

>>519789918 (OP)

time to finish off those nazis who went into hiding in south america lul

>>519794264
K, enjoy your tax dollars going to Israel amd pedophile billionaires

>>519794455
that's Argentina

>>519794467
that's happening no matter who we vote for, or even if we don't vote

>>519789918 (OP)
I'm already dead

>>519794298
I disagree; never attribute to malice that which can easily be explained by incompetence. October 7th was a massive failure; one Apache gunship could have stopped it all. I really do not think they gained anything of note by letting it happen. The war Israel has fought in Gaza has cost them lives, and the instability in the region has cost them security.

Israel is run by a far-right administration that is toying with the status quo, but I sincerely doubt they would ever allow October 7th to occur just to push their agenda.

>>519794139
it's their time to be killed and they know it. The time approaches to do a Thanos on biological conservatism.

>>519793800
>sentiment on the ground
Maduro has the monopoly of violence, aka military, police and several armed groups, like tren de Aragua.
Boomers that survive on gibs are pro Maduro, poor bastards brainwashed to the point of thinking if Maduro falls gibs will stop.
Most civilians hate Maduro to the point they will welcome any kind of hellish outcome if that means chavismo and our oppressors get droned.
Myself included, that is what 25 years of suffering does to a man.

>>519794435
We ANTIFA are gonna rip your ass open

>>519789918 (OP)
I wouldn't be surprised if Venezuela completely folded without a single American boot touching its soil.

>>519793639
You mean the guys who chant death to America, who are testing ICBMs, who have openly and continuously (despite the B-2 kinetic sanctions) developing nuclear weapons? We don’t want them setting up shop 1000 miles from Florida? Crazy. Outrageous.

>>519794603
>I really do not think they gained anything of note by letting it happen.
Then you're just not paying attention. Oct 7th gave them the greenlight to enact every plan to destabilize their regional enemies that they'd been wanting to do for decades.
>Hamas - destroyed, Gaza annexed
>West Bank is next
>pushing from Golan into Syria
>South Lebanon to be annexed eventually, Hezbollah destroyed
>Iran neutered by US intervention
>arab states forced into a new Abraham Alliance
Oct 7th gave them the pathway to becoming the sole regional power in the Middle East
pay attention anon

>>519794603
We have the tapes. You are stupid... cope with the fact.

>>519793156
migapedes are utterly delusional

>>519794734
It won't end with Maduro. Machado is hated. Like seriously, what do they have to look forward to? More of the same shit from America, the same crap which drove them to Chavismo in the first place. They got all that stuff... they need to use it... if they don't, America will either destroy it or use it on Colombia and Brazil.

Nigger Tounge My Anus

>>519794994
>Machado is hated.
kek

>>519791670
>its a mute point

>>519794785
I know all that, but I still don't think they allowed October 7th to happen. That the Shin bet would have plans in place to do all those things in the event of war is obvious, but the trigger came from Hamas, not their own false flag.
>>519794816
Which tapes?

>>519790509
>>519792298
It would be interesting to see how the US military handles an adversary like Venezuela without its hands tied behind its back so Logistics Companies can make bank for 20 years.

>>519794080
I’m so confused by this post. Can you please try to better articulate your stance in this discussion?

>>519795062
the tapes of Bibi describing his strat to Likud.

>>519789918 (OP)
another distraction.

seriously, what the fuck was in those Epstein files?

>>519789918 (OP)
>4pbtid
OP is a scared zoomer

>>519795125
we're never gonna know in the West. Media won't ever expose it, at least, not when it matters.

>>519795062
> but the trigger came from Hamas, not their own false flag
Yes, I know. That's what I've been saying.
They knew Hamas was planning the attack
They didn't stop it from happening because they stood to benefit from it happening
It wasn't them doing a false flag against themselves, but simply ALLOWING an attack they knew was coming to happen because they could use it as justification for every move they've made in the region since then

Do you get it now?
That's what we mean by "they let it happen"
We're not saying "they did it themselves"
they LET IT HAPPEN
use your brain please

>>519795326
Half of Europe has recognised Israel in response to the war. The world is more radicalised against Israel than ever before.

They have not gained anything that would benefit the state of Israel long-term.

>>519793589
They literally have been talking about it in congress since Trump got re-elected.

Early this week congress most based goverment official had a congressional hearing about the money laundering for terror groups in Venezuela. Weeks ago was the head of FBI and many others.

>Why isnt the public aware

Let's be serious, most Americans dont even know where Venezuela is.

>>519790509
Just EMP Caracas and war end in 2 weeks.

>>519795448
>They have not gained anything that would benefit the state of Israel long-term.
You're just ignorant about the region then
Half of europe recognizing Palestinian statehood is an empty gesture that doesn't mean shit because they still annexed Gaza anyway and will take the West Bank too at their leisure
If you can't see how Israel has capitalized on Oct 7th to get everything they've wanted for decades, you're just ignorant

>>519795057
Phone posting my nigga. I am high as fuck and worked night-shift

>>519789918 (OP)
> you ready to die for israel in venezuela goys?
Tbf a regime change in Venezuela would actually serve America’s interests. Venezuela unlike Iran is in America’s sphere of influence. It’s not in America’s interests to have a China-aligned socialist government in charge of an oil-rich nation in America’s own backyard. If America can topple the government, install a loyal client regime and take over their natural resources that would benefit America and Americans, so long as they don’t get bogged down in a prolonged counter-insurgency. Nick Fuentes has the correct take here.

I can’t wait to watch Amerigoys get blown up in 4K so Trumpstein can distract them from Epstein list

>>519790509
pretty much, our army know the war isnt against venezuela but directly against maduro and his cartel. Plus the most basic infantrymen are paid SHIT while generals partake in the narcotraffic business. The common regular infantry would be the ones sent to defend the narcodictatorship, but they are not going to immolate themselves knowing that.

>>519792140
No it does not, unless you’re suggesting suicide bombing runs. Water drones are notoriously hard to get right, definitely not something you can jerry rig. Besides what are even hundreds of non stealth vehicles against Aegis ships? Landing crafts are slow but they never sail alone

>>519790420
>supported by Russia and China
KEK
>America is about to learn what a fiber optic drone can do to heavy equipment
KEKx2
>no real boots on the ground
they already has boot on the ground

>>519790879
I still find hilarious when paid shills for Maduro brings up the "muh oil, muh resources" as an argument as to why they dont want USA to get rid of maduro.

When it was Maduro himself who proposed to give all of tham + pinky promise to not be friends with china and russia if USA spared his life and let him remain in power. USA said no, so his fate is in a bodybag.

>>519789918 (OP)
> fucking over aztec communism
Its Worth It

>>519794994
>Machado is hated
Top kek

>>519796086
>When it was Maduro himself who proposed to give all of tham + pinky promise to not be friends with china and russia if USA spared his life and let him remain in power. USA said no, so his fate is in a bodybag.
To be fair this was basically not reported anywhere, most Americans at least don't even know the deal was offered

Just fyi to the glow in the dark CIAnigger who want young Americans to die because Maduro said no no words about Israel:
WE ARENT FUCKING GOING
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHA

>>519796225
>dying for globohomo

>>519789918 (OP)
It will cause a massive refugee crisis and our supplies are already being wasted on Ukraine

>>519796337
> dying
American Soldiers wont die in a conflict like that, they'll cyrbstomp the shit out of opponents like those. The population is oppressed, not onboard with the dictator.

>>519790879
Mexico had this guy in their hands for only a few hours before they let him go, because cartels were firing MANPADs at choppers and threatening to blow up gas stations.

Violence works. If only Americans could get off their asses for 5 seconds and chase these fucking Jews out, there really would be a new golden age of America.

>>519796536
>you won’t die goy. Nobody died in Iraq. Stop questioning things
Nobody is following for this again glow in the dark nigger

>>519796406
> refugees
> in a country where they'll start being fed after the soldiers come in

>>519791995
>The whole reason this is happening is thanks to Marco Rubio. He’s a die-hard anti-communist.
He's a die-hard blackmailed pedophile loyal only to Israel. The only question is what exactly Maduro did to piss off Trump's Jewish masters.

>>519789918 (OP)
In what way would that effect Israel?

>>519796406
Border's sealed up tight currently. Deportations might be lagging but almost nobody is getting in right now.
And you're overestimating how much we're giving to Ukraine. We've parked an entire Carrier Group in the Carribean, and Venezuela is easily within strike distance of all of our air assets.

>>519796610
Yeah, they’ll greet us as liberators just like in Afghanistan you dumb faggot

>>519796406
There’s already a massive refugee crisis coming from Venezuela and it was caused by Maduro. Pay attention.

>>519796675
Nigger, those were just the common criminals. it’s going to get much worse once chaos is unleashed

>>519796743
So those 7 million Venezuelans who fled their country are all criminals in your eyes?

>>519796086
>When it was Maduro himself who proposed to give all of tham + pinky promise to not be friends with china
Is there any actual reliable source reporting on this?

>>519796795
>are the illegal browns who currently commit massive amounts of crimes criminals?
Yes nigger

>>519796847
That’s only a small portion. Besides, if you want them gone so badly, overthrowing Maduro is the easiest way to get them to go back to their country.

since when is the left against drone striking brownoids?

>>519796662
>Carrier groups in the Middle East to protect Israeli organ trafficking shipments
>MUH FORCE PROJECTION
>get hit by Yemeni goatfuckers in sandals and chewing Khat
>run away full steam with tail between legs
>cover up deathtoll, claim pilots died from boneheaded manuvers in "stateside training accidents"
>Trump is still unusually covering up American deathtoll from Yemen battles
Let's pick on Venezuela now! That will surely show the rest of the world who's boss!
>run away with tail between legs

>>519796919
>Thats only a small portion
No faggot, they all need to go back.

>>519796675
>the refugee crisis was caused by Maduro
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA, really? You fucking Jews are so goddamn stupid. Turns out that you can't teach an old Jew new tricks!

>>519796919
Never in history have criminal browns returned to their country once “regime changed” you are a retarded glowie nigger

It's about time we went back to the jungle.

>>519796975
>comparing an asymmetrical insurgency taking pot shots at naval assets halfway around the world to a regime change campaign against an extremely unpopular dictator right in our back yard
not very bright are you

Starting an unprovoked war with practically one of your brown neighbors will put the final nail in the browning of the US coffin

>>519797114
And you bet your sweet as the Ukrainians won't either - Jews need another generation of fifth-columnists loyal to Israel and Russia to send the next generation of Goyim into the next-generation bankers' meat-grinder.

>>519797197
the nail's already in that coffin
you can't undo the demographic match, the United States will be less than 50% white in about 20 years no matter what anybody does

>>519797189
Nobody believes a word you saw glowie faggot. Americans don’t want anymore war.

>>519789918 (OP)
Digits and Amerimutts perform worse than Russia in Ukraine

>>519797189
>extremely unpopular dictator
Everybody Israel doesn't like is an "extremely unpopular dictator," you absolute retard. Remember this one?

>>519792187
He loved Jews.
In w-2, most of jews lived in usa and Germany (half of German elite was jews)

>>519797359
I don't know where you've been but half of the country would absolutely support it

>>519794994
>Machado is hated.
Holy mother of cope. This commie is actually retarded lmao.

>>519797415
You really going to say Maduro is loved and respected by the Venzuelan people?
You really are ignorant
There are Venezuelans in this thread. Ask them yourself what they think of Maduro.

>>519797447
>no, the vast majority of people who aren’t insane Zionists who listen to MSM propoganda would not support sending white men to die because Maduro insulted Shitsrael

>>519790307
You’re in the army now.
You’ll not behind a plow..
You’ll never get rich.
Digging a ditch,

You’re in the army now!!

>>519797426
My point wasn't really about Jews, it was about Patton believing that the German people were the wrong enemy. That they were more noble and it was actually possible to work with them, unlike the Russians

in fact the Holocaust wasn't really talked about at all until it started showing up in textbooks in the fucking 70s

It’s fucking hilarious how Maduro has more supporters outside of Venezuela than within it. That should tell you all you need to know.

>>519789918 (OP)
I don't get the play here. Maybe it's to get Venezuela's oil? It feels like a distraction though. Venezuela is clearly not a threat. (Not that anyone who the US goes to war with is.)

>>519789918 (OP)
>Going to war with Venezuelan commies
>dying for Israel
Go to war you fucking coward. America needs you. Don't be a lazy good for nothing degenerate who lets the commies win. Kikes are literally communists.

>>519796816
antiwar.com always has the real news you won't find here (anymore). /pol/ was radio silent on Venezuela for weeks during this buildup.

>>519793087
>Not the economy,
>Peru
retard

>>519797511
Americans don't give a fuck with the Venezuelan people think. We don't give a fuck about Venezuela. So why are we dicking around in their backyard again?!

>>519797576
>insane Zionists who listen to MSM propoganda would not support sending white men to die because Maduro insulted Shitsrael
go out in public in america and say that sentence to normie trump supporters
see how they react as if you're a crazy person

>>519797666
because we want their shit

>>519797465
Nobody cares about your roastie feminist abortionist whore Juanito

>>519797604
They are all paid shills with narcomoney. Accepting that job stained their hands with blood. Many innocent people died so they can come here just to say "Akshually, maduro good. USA bad."
>captcha: J00KX

>>519789918 (OP)
why do we care about venezuela? I don't remember ever caring about venezuela before.

>>519797797
They are communists who talk mad shit.

>>519797666
you retarded vpn nigger, america has been our main export partner. They've been the only ones who have been paying fairly. They do give a fuck because they want a better deal and we want freedom from maduro's 25 years of narcoregime. Our interest align. Now go hang yourself Commie nigger.

>>519796645
Maduro didnt do anything, hes just an extension of Hugo Chavez, who said and did far omore things. Taken out of that context, Maduro is a normal president

>>519797797
>fuckhuge oil reserves
>currently hostile and a vassal of china and russia
>in our sphere of influence
>easily toppled
>Sec on Interior Doug Burgum: "America needs vastly more energy to win the AI race"
I wonder why we might want to replace Maduro with somebody who is on our side instead

>>519789918 (OP)
DoD would have to bomb them into oblivion before a ground assualt, and even then the casualties would be higher than iraq and afganistan.

>>519797797
Liberating Venezuela is the first step to wiping out communism in the Western Hemisphere. Isolationist cucks are happy with this whole continent turning anti-US, it’s time to put boot to ass on every leftist dictatorship in this region.

>you oppose foreign wars
>therefore you support foreign dictators

>they are smuggling fentanyl to USA
>they're actually taking coke to Trinidad then to Europe/Africa

>it's ok to kill people without evidence because we said so

>America fuck yeah! let's blow another 3 trillion on bombs!

Is it 2001 again?

>>519797949
>Maduro is a normal president

>>519797956
another person ignorant of the situation

>>519797797
Monroe Doctrine. I'd rather us to be aligned with USA than China, Russia and Iran.

> Machado supports the privatization of state-run entities in Venezuela, including oil company PDVSA.[79][112] In 2023, she ran as a candidate in the opposition presidential primaries.[122][123] The Maduro administration subsequently barred her from running.[124] She became the main driving force for the main opposition candidate, Edmundo González Urrutia, who was allowed to compete by the Maduro regime.[3] In May 2023, Machado called for the banning of reelection to political office, is in favor of same-sex marriage, supports the legalization of medical cannabis, and has called for a national debate on the legality of abortion in cases involving risk to the mother's life or instances of rape.[125] In a 2024 interview, Machado talked of making education available for all Venezuelans and of reforming the country's judiciary.[126] Machado has stated she admires, and has been compared to, the United Kingdom's Margaret Thatcher

This is who niggers on here adore btw. A Israel shilling, femenist, globalist abortionist degenerate whose first act of buisness is to troon out every kid and march them down in a giant fag pride parade. Top kek

>>519798077
We could form a very powerful partnership

>>519797929
>we want freedom from maduro's 25 years of narcoregime
Freedom to do what, tell me one thing maduro doesnt let you do. How are you not free in Venezuela

I've been ready to kill the fuckers flooding our streets with fent for awhile.

>>519798182
>trying to defend Maduro against actual Venzeulan anons who know what's up
it's a bold strategy let's see how that works out for you

>>519798017
What has he actually done as a president? Hes only got a bad rep because he was Chavez #2

>>519798182
You can’t speak out against the government or else you’ll be arrested or tortured. Not to mention the problem with inflation.

>>519798136
Lel it’s even worse than I thought. She may be Klaus Schwab and Netanyahus top goy

>>519789918 (OP)
So, what's going to happen when we get videos of mutts getting drone striked like Ziggers?

>>519790420
>America to fight a foe that is supported by Russia and China
Nigger, Russia can't even support itself. And the Chinks are too cowardly to get involved.

>>519798182
Freedom to troon out their kids

>>519790035
>>519790248
>>519790505
>>519792660

>>519798243
I'm yet to hear about Maduro's evil deeds. People said that Saddam invaded many countries, gassed some people, lobbed rockets at Israel, and his sons raped a lot of women and was going to get nukes. They dont say that about Maduro, its just venecos saying they only have water for two hours.

>>519798058
Because I don't believe the USA will steamroll them in a week? I don't personally care either way, I have shekels to make. Ill be awaiting the kino war footage, God bless our Zogbots.

>>519797666
>We don't give a fuck about Venezuela
Speak for yourself satan. Real Americans support our neighbors' rights to be free from evil communist dictatorships.

>>519798484
>our neighbors
They are brown. Not my neighbor faggot

>>519798464
No, because you think the planned action against Venezuela involves a ground assault at all
You are fundamentally ignorant of the strategic objectives

>>519798284
>You can’t speak out against the government or else you’ll be arrested or tortured.
So dont speak against the government? Problem solved\
>Inflation
Use USD like everyone does anyway, problem solved. Its legal, you can open bank accounts in USD in venezuela

DEAR GRINGOS
please nuke venezuela

>>519798545
>So dont speak against the government? Problem solved
oof
you got countered so fast you had to conceed immediately

>>519798484
FUCK YEAH!!!! FREEDOM!!! USA!! USA!!! USA!!!

lmao. this board is such a fucking joke. might as well read /k/ or /r/worldnews

>>519798545
Trolling used to be less obvious

>>519797675
Normie Trump supporters don’t want war either retard. Only the unthinking mindless golem who enthusiastically supported the Iraq war are cheering for this

>>519798484
Maduro isnt communist, Venezuela is ANARCHO-CAPITALIST
Only money matters there

43pbtid of the most reddit/state department opinions ever

>>519798182
Show flag commienigger.

Did you know that just last week some lady got sentenced to 10 years in prison just because cops found out she spoke against maduro in her whatsapp messages. Do you think that's freedom?

Here, unlike you, i actually post sources https://www.elnacional.com/2025/10/condenan-a-10-anos-de-prision-a-mujer-por-comentario-contra-el-gobierno-de-maduro-en-whatsapp/

And btw, our news agencies also have to self censor and never speak against maduro neither otherwise they are shut down too and arrested.

>>519797640
Israel literally is the main pushers for regime change in Venezuela

>>519790420
in what world does Venezuela have tech and open support from your mentioned? there’s a chink company drilling oil that’s it

>>519798643
>Normie Trump supporters don’t want war either retard
They all cheered and declared the strike on Iran as brilliant and "the correct way to use American military power"
This would be seen as the same thing
Guaranteed

if you think normie trump supporters are going to be AGAINST taking out Maduro and bombing fentanyl boats and drug cartels (which is how this will be pitched) then you just don't have your finger on the pulse of the public

>>519798586
>>519798603
Before the internet existed you didnt have a physical way to talk bad about the govt, TV and radio were 1 way. People lived fine like that, just consuming media opinions and never talking back.
You have nothing to say about maduro except that you dont like it. The complains are "i dont like maduro". When you ask why, they say "i just dont"
We heard you the first 10.000 million times

out military has been such a fucking joke since like 2006 i expect a f-16 to shoot down a f-35 via meme magic.

>>519798702
>Did you know that just last week some lady got sentenced to 10 years in prison just because cops found out she spoke against maduro in
So dont speak out, problem solved.
Tell me about a real problem that affects you

>>519798552
Why? You want whites (enemies of Western Civilization) dead as much as the Ancient Greeks and Romans did.

>>519798791
How about his complete incompetence in running a country? You think Venezuela’s crappy economy wasn’t caused by him?

>>519798791
Show your real flag

>>519789918 (OP)
I didn't think you guys would start invading foreign nations until at least Trump's third year but it seems he's determined to speed run the death of the American empire for some reason.

>>519798308
We celebrate, of course. I hope we get some good quality footage of maduro's final seconds as the drone approaches him.
>>519798851
I see that you have no other way to argument back. So i accept your concession. Now do us all a favor and kill yourself retarded commie.

>>519798851
If you’re not just trolling, tell me why should those people live in that kind of fear, where they can’t speak in public to their friends about how shitty the government is or post about it on social media. Their complaints aren’t unfounded.

>>519798923
>You think Venezuela’s crappy economy wasn’t caused by him?
How?
Explain how?
I accept its extremely poor, but you blame maduro just because he happened to be president at the time. You have to actually say the things he did.
With people like Mao you can give a list of his horrible policies, like how he ordered peasants to melt their tools to produce steel and then no one had tools to farm, and when he ordered birds to be shot and insects started to eat the crops.
I dont see this being done with maduro, you just say "things are bad, must be maduro"

>>519798544
So what's the strategic objective mr riddler? We are just going to bomb them into submission and they will beg for peace and give us everything? Warfare has changed since the middle east, and I am willing to bet the vens can get some decent AA going if they really try. So what's the plan armchair general?

>>519799149
>So what's the strategic objective mr riddler?
Remove Maduro and replace him with an amicable puppet

>>519798905
the fuck are you babbling about
I want venezuelans gone because they're worse that american niggers
simple

>>519790420
i guarantee you our military has some wild shit that will make those obsolete

>>519799149
> am willing to bet the vens can get some decent AA going if they really try
also lol
lmao

>>519799149
Our AA defense is soviet junk, some Pechora S125 and IGLAs. the msot advanced thing we have is some chink radars and i doubt they are well mantained.

>>519799077
>I see that you have no other way to argument back. S
Its my argument, dont talk bad about the govt. I would give you the same advice in China, Russia, Saudi arabia or the UAE, which is very wealthy yet they will jail you for talking about the govt. You have nothing to say, for instance in this thread you are saying nothing except that you hate maduro, you dont say why, i dont think you know why.

>>519799077
Will you troon out right as the new globohomo president is sworn in or a little before with a celebratory dick chop?

America isn't going to do shit. They failed a color revolution in venezula at least 3 times.

They're going to try to do some pirate shit
Then face the most basic of resistence
They'll cuck out
Declare victory
And then you won't hear about Venezuela in the news cycle for the next 5 years

This shit isn't new
It's been going on for almost a decade of fucking around

>>519790509
Yeah sudacas just want chicken wings, cocaine and football they’re not going taliban over maduro

>>519799139
The massive inflation that the country suffers from is a direct cause of the Maduro regime’s incompetence in managing an economy. It’s not something caused by outside factors.

>>519799084
>, tell me why should those people live in that kind of fear, where they can’t speak in public to their friends about how shitty the government is
You can say anything but just not in social media or like as a journalist in a newspaper. No one will arrest you for talking about the govt in your house with a friend.
But theres no conversations anyway, just expressions of hate against maduro. Like every message is "I hate maduro" and thats the conversation.

>>519789918 (OP)
For big booty Latinas then?

>>519791744
Blackrock brokered a deal with Panama no fighting.

>>519799462
You’re not giving me a real reason as to why they shouldn’t have the right to complain.

>>519799443
>The massive inflation that the country suffers
The solution is to use USD and thats what people do, and banks in venezuela let you open accounts in dollars. See, i found a solution that millions of people found already, and no need to overthrow the govt

>>519789918 (OP)
Can't fucking wait to laught at you failing for a decade yet again.

>>519790420
We've been adapting our technology quietly while everyone hand-wrings over drones, the geography of Venezuela itself doesn't really lend itself to mass armored assaults anyways.

>>519799573
>as to why they shouldn’t have the right to complain.
I dont care, it seems like a minor issue and a mask for what these venecos really suffer, which is economics. The suffer because they are poor, but thats embarrassing so they act like its a freedom of speech issue and how they feel so sorry about some few hundred brown hoodlooms tortured by the police and they just have so much empathy they have to emigrate by the millions because some brown person got zapped in the balls. So, virtue signaling
They just feel bad about others
Its not that they are poor oh no

>>519789918 (OP)
Ugh, if anything happened (it won't) I just hope that my very smart and intellectual president don't put Brazil in this mess

>>519798592
It was always inevitable. Normies have been flooding the internet for 15+ years. For the last 10 or so they increasingly invaded every nook and cranny where you're still allowed to utter basic bitch disagreement against the prescribed canon like "troons are gay" "mass immigration sucks" or "the mrna slop doesn't give immunity though". They'll still maintain they live in freedom and any action against the total dominance of mammon in every aspect of life is pure evil. Just don't pay the mooing of the cattle any attention. They're hopeless and always have been.

>>519789918 (OP)
you lost, tranny

>>519799230
Of course, central and south America are just vassal states.

>>519799287
heh maybe, we will see.

>>519799290
well if you have something on par with a stinger, that's still pretty good compared to what the muslims had. I guess we will see.

>>519799301
No, unlike USA, and other countries, our country is still majority christian catholic. Troons shamed and a minority lol.
>>519799299
No. That's not an argument, that's called submition, retarded commie. There are many reasons to hate your dear narcoterrorist maduro, for example ruining economically our country. Multi billion dollars in corruption. Humanitarian crisis in the hospitals. Insanely high crime rate. State terrorism, killing and torturing civilians and students for over 25 years, having political prisoners. Just in july/august 2024 there were over 2000 arrested people over some protests after maduro lost the presidential election and stole the results, among the detained there were minors that had nothing to do too, without their "due process" that your ilk claims and they were all sent to prisons.

>inb4 MUH USA SANCTIONS.
No, retarded commie, if that were the case people with connections to the government wouldnt be importing luxury cars and bikes.

>>519790035
Kek this. Trump will just blow up a few more speedboats and call it a day

>>519799647
Gonna be waiting a long fucking time then

>>519800234
>day 1 of special operation to free Venezuela of the communist yoke

>>519800190
Too much hardware is being sent to the Caribbean for it to be just about drug boats.

>>519789918 (OP)
>combat against Venezuela
>dying

>>519792298
these are broke ass motherfuckers who would gladly take the jobs we offer them unlike the jihadis in the middle east

>>519789918 (OP)
I've been promised my whole life that I'd get to fight real commies. Nothing ever happens.

>>519791057
And that is a good thing. Golems should also be genocided together with with their jewish overlords. You cannot turn slave into free man, better just kill them and raise a new generation properly.

>>519800175
>, for example ruining economically our country
How?
If its inflation, i told you the solution, use dollars or euros or barter with gold coins. You dont have to use the local money
>>519800175
>Multi billion dollars in corruption. Humanitarian crisis in the hospitals.
Go to a private doctor, and government money is all from oil and the oil isnt yours anyway. What do you care if someone steals money from the oil industry or some other state company, it isnt yours so they dont steal from you.
>>519800175
>. Insanely high crime rate.
You always had this and its 10X lower with maduro. Many theories about why, its just a fact cities in venezuela are safer now than they have ever been in the last 40 years, which isnt very safe, just massively safer than they were before Chavez or Maduro.
>>519800175
>State terrorism, killing and torturing civilians and students for over 25 years,
This always happened and its none of your business, dont get involved in protests and no one will arrest you.
>>519800175
>lost the presidential election and stole the results
Pinochet also stole the government. Not an election, he just ran tanks over anyone who opposed him, yet you worship him and post helicopter memes

I see you complain about a bunch of shit that doesnt affect you. Inflation is solved by using USD, and crime is at its lowest levels ever, still unsafe i agree.

>>519800355
having TWO carriers in the caribbean + refuel boats close by is not just a show of force. Every day those military assets are out there in the sea performing missions, it costs a shitton gorillion taxpayer money. Spending that much money for nothing in concrete would be just preposterous.

>>519800669
>Pinochet
based, bless my general who gave way to democracy after fixing my country's economy, retard commies like you can't understand that

>>519800669
hahahahahahah

>>519800783
Stop talking about the military and politics and things you have no power no influence. Get a job, make money and stop obsessing about politics, you are not a politician. Your life is meant to be simple: Work and make money and buy product.

>>519800669
Alright, i wanted to give you a final benefit of the doubt for a good argument, but I expected too much of a retarded commie nigger. You're just trolling at this point. so carry on.

>>519800957
>just stop talking about it
>only I get to talk about it
show your real flag

>>519801030
Theres no trolling, you are just entitled.
Lets say for a minute Maduro and Chavez ruined the oil industry. So what?
It isnt yours, you are not a shareholder.
Literally none of your business.

>stop talking about politics on /pol/
Then get >>>/out/ stupid faggot.

>>519801280
Hes a temporarily embarrased billionaire that also has a job as admiral of the US navy so he needs to give you his takes on carrier strategy

>>519790161
Venezuela? Israel? why is it always "for Israel" when defending White interests? huh commie?