Thread 520191468

>does nothing
>wins

>>520191468 (OP)
it is well known by now that the golems of israel are no match for the prowess of the han empire

>>520191468 (OP)
>>520191618
Stop glazing lmao

>>520191468 (OP)
The United States can’t win a trade war with China because it’s fighting the wrong kind of war. America still believes power is visible — GDP charts, sanctions, moral posturing — while China plays on the invisible layer where systems, logistics, and time intersect. The trade war was supposed to corner China, but it ended up exposing the U.S. as strategically illiterate: an empire incapable of abstraction, addicted to the illusion of leverage. When Washington slapped tariffs in 2018, Beijing didn’t rage — it observed. It converted economic pain into intelligence, extracting data from every restriction to understand the full architecture of its dependence. China turned the U.S. offensive into a laboratory experiment on national resilience. The real “war” wasn’t about trade at all — it was about which civilization could adapt faster to systemic constraint. America flexed; China evolved.

By 2019, Beijing had already mobilized a multi-ministerial vulnerability audit, a forensic sweep through every layer of its economy — energy, chips, finance, rare earths, shipping, even fertilizer. The findings fed directly into the 2020 dual-circulation strategy: external exposure reduced, internal production weaponized. When the U.S. cut Huawei off from chips, China didn’t beg — it built. SMIC was expanded under emergency funding; domestic fabs were scaled; a national semiconductor ecosystem was born. When rare-earth pressure was discussed in Washington, China preemptively consolidated the entire global supply chain under state command. By 2023, China had replaced dependency with redundancy, creating parallel infrastructure immune to Western coercion. The trade war was meant to break China’s back; instead, it trained its spine. America was trying to inflict pain — China was building pain tolerance. One side sought domination through noise, the other achieved supremacy through silence.

>>520191948
This it’s jus trends and has nothin to do w that guy

>>520191468 (OP)
does us actually try to diversify rare elements production rn? Somebody here claimed that it would take months to do it. Have they started doing it?

>>520191468 (OP)
>without consneeding much China returned to what it was doing last year
>take that Drumpf!

>>520192159
Written by AI

>>520192159
ChatGPT slop will be countered with ChatGPT slop -

China never “won” the trade war — it survived it. The U.S. didn’t need to crush Beijing; it simply had to expose the fragility behind the performance. When tariffs hit in 2018, China didn’t evolve — it scrambled. Capital flight, tech bans, and crumbling export demand revealed a system addicted to Western oxygen. The “dual circulation” strategy wasn’t innovation; it was triage dressed as strategy. America’s move didn’t just target China’s economy — it punctured its myth of inevitability.

While Beijing built barriers, Washington built bandwidth. America’s chaos — its startups, arguments, and failures — is its greatest weapon. China confuses control for stability; the U.S. understands that freedom is volatility harnessed into progress. Silicon Valley doesn’t ask for permission, and that’s why Beijing will always be playing catch-up. America’s networked disorder outpaces any five-year plan because it can mutate faster than China can censor.

China’s so-called “self-reliance” in chips and rare earths is a monument to dependency disguised as pride. SMIC’s billions can’t buy what sanctions block, and Huawei’s fall was the silent admission that technological sovereignty cannot be commanded into existence. Beijing’s “resilience” is isolation — and isolation is decay.

In the end, the trade war revealed two civilizations: one that copies and one that creates. The United States doesn’t need to dominate through coercion; it leads by magnetism — ideas, capital, and innovation orbit it naturally. China can build its walls higher, but it can’t build a future from imitation. The empire of freedom always looks chaotic, right up until it wins.

I love when these fucking retards try to attack trump by praising china, I had a chick try to tell me how advanced and cool china is and I got to tell her how cool they are too because they put their ethnic minorities in work camps and only recently stopped killing babies of households with more than 1 kid.

>>520192492
Australia and US linked up a deal for some rare earths. Need another 30 or so deals with others to diversify.

>>520191468 (OP)

>does nothing

other than the ceaseless planning, management and investment etc etc etc

>>520191468 (OP)
>wins
>by giving Trump everything he wants and more
Art of the Deal :)

>>520193322
GRORIOUS FI-YEAH PRAN

>>520192785
Your AI’s sermon about “freedom’s chaos” is a vibe, not a scoreboard. Capacity is the scoreboard. Under maximum U.S. pressure, Huawei shipped phones on domestically made 7 nm silicon; yields weren’t pretty, but the point wasn’t elegance—it was proof of life under blockade. Washington’s response? Scramble to tighten the screws again—because the first squeeze didn’t kill it. That’s adaptation you can measure, not a TED Talk about “bandwidth.” 

You call dual-circulation “triage.” Fine—then explain why China owns >80% of every major step in the solar value chain. That isn’t a press release; it’s factories, ingots, wafers, cells—scale the U.S. can’t sanction away. Module prices fall globally because Beijing can move entire supply curves by itself. That’s not isolation; that’s gravity. 

“Rare-earth dominance is a myth”? USGS says otherwise—and it’s not just ore; it’s separation and quotas calibrated like a throttle. If America had this lever, you’d call it “strategic depth.” When China has it, you call it “decay.” 

Your “empire of freedom” doesn’t build the ships either. China delivered a majority of global tonnage last year. Logistics is power; shipyards are its forges. Silicon Valley can’t containerize steel. 

Batteries—arguably the war-metal of the 2020s. CATL alone holds roughly two-fifths of the world market and is planting gigafactories in Europe. That isn’t autarky; that’s export-grade dominance. 

So no: the U.S. didn’t “expose fragility”; it exposed incentives. China routed around chokepoints and built redundancy at terrifying speed. America still confuses quarterly narratives for strategy. Copy vs create? Beijing created the factories that set your prices. You’re welcome to keep the slogans. China will keep the capacity.

How is it that the left loves China, while at the same time they think Russia is literally Hitler? They don't even pretend to be unaware that China is their closest and most powerful ally. It makes no sense.

>>520193521
no one loves china

>>520192159
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Didn't read.

>>520191468 (OP)
Trump imposed a 150% tariff increase due to China's being cute with rare earths, Xi bent the knee and now he's reversing the tariffs

>>520193665
This, the left only loves to root against America, China just happens to be their biggest opponent

>>520193521
Because the left isn't one group. Do you think Evangelical philosemites that like immigration, as long as it's legal, should fall under the same banner as the common /pol/ user?

>>520192492
Considering that china refines and manufactures over 90% of all rare earth production and products, the burgers wouldn't see shit for years, let alone supply their active demand without china. Securing some deal now doesn't equal having tons of processed, refined and manufactured products now.
So the crotch nai lao was indeed licked clean

>>520194139
In the short term, the US only needs to fulfill about 5% of its total rare earth needs. That's roughly the percentage which is used for military applications. The US already refines around 2-3% of its rare earth domestically, so it doesn't actually need to increase its refinement capability that much to be ready for war with China. They could easily be ready by 2028.

>>520195118
>by 2028
>china's ban encompassed all burger related companies, even those outside of jewsa
>rare earth are required for all chip making, energy and others
yea... RIP burgers if they actually had to survive with 5% of their demand.
China would have won long before they even had to do a thing by 2028.

>>520191468 (OP)
>Threaten to do stuff and never follow through with nothing to show for it
Were are winning lib frens!
>Impose tarrifs higher than you anticipate sticking so you can negotiate down to the original intended level
Trump lost and is a loser!

>>520195664
That's why if China actually did try to cut them off, it would basically be a declaration of war. The US would have no choice but to treat it this way. Their domestic production and strategic reserves, plus imports from Japan/Australia/etc would see them through the first few years of the war.

>>520196125
Which then jewsa would lose because they can't sustain any kind of production, which would completely cripple their economy and thus would cripple the value of the burger shekel and thus the world would just stop using it.
Basically if jewsa wants to start a war with china, they have to commit sudoku or start a war with the entire world to keep the rest from leaving the burger shekel by force. Not to mention that a direct conflict between nuclear powers would end in nuclear war
I know burgers are dumb and half of them can barely read but not even they are this stupid. It's better for every that burgers better enjoy the taste of crotch nai lao.
In any case, the burgers lost the trade war they started, lost trillions, weakened the burger shekel, failed to industrialize and the world lost hope in the burger shekel. And for what? To end just where they started before the orange nigger threw a tantrum and tried to make a tariff war with a country that now controls basically all the market around the world.

>>520191468 (OP)
>without conceding much in return
they conceded nothing.

Trump's Art of the getting humiliated by Chinks is age old.

>>520191468 (OP)
Lmao trump literally crawls to China to asks for a tiny win and Xi just sits there and says yes.

This will backfire on the chinks

Trump will not let this slide

>>520196993
Well a wartime economy is a very different thing to a normal economy. China also didn't actually threaten to cut the US off from rare earths entirely. They're not that dumb. Their ban was only on RE for military applications, so only about 2% of the US's needs. Honestly, the US should have just ignored the ban and built their refinement capability up another couple of percent over the next few years.

>>520197542
>Well a wartime economy is a very different thing to a normal economy
I'm baffled that an anti-china poster is using this point

>>520193521
The real left (not libtards) loves both. BRICS will prevent ww3

>>520197845
Why?

>>520197542
>stationed zogdog
>next few years
I saw you on that other thread saying the same bullshit
Anon, all the tech and all the teaching about rare earth engineering is done by china.
It would take you a decade just to get enough people to build the refineries, let alone the factories for the final product.
Burger economy right now is only going "up" by the AI bubble, which heavily depends on more chips and rare earth shit.
You will need every second burger to eat dirt and hope they don't shot your ass to even be able to start something if you actually started a war with china. You won't have a war economy. You won't have any economy at all because you have real production to talk about with.

>>520191468 (OP)
>>does nothing
>>wins
as opposed to

>>520197999
Rare earth refinement was invented in the US.

>>520198129
>we wuz

>>520197937
Maybe I've misunderstood your posts.
>Well a wartime economy is a very different thing to a normal economy
This was a reply to a post mentioning how a U.S-China war would severely cripple the American financial system, which is the most powerful sector of the American economy. Wasn't your reply insinuating that it wouldn't be catastrophic for the U.S, since a war economy would lean away from the financial sector?

The funny part is russia and america have been tag teaming the eartg since the 1800s and will continue to do so. So when its time, russia and america together will put the screws to china lol

Grow up kiddies

>>520193521
Everything makes more sense when you realize the people on the left are mindless useful idiots for globalists who dont care about them.

>>520191468 (OP)
Japan bought him golf clubs and told him he was a swell guy. Trump is such an egomaniac he will destroy his own country if a foreign leader doesn't kiss his ass exactly the way he wants it kissed. So they kissed his ass and Trump forgot why he wanted to start nuclear war with Asia.

>>520198243
That is literally the case. The US invented rare earth refinement in the '40s, and up until the '90s basically all refinement was done in the US.

China should remember who saved their ass in ww2.

Keep it up and the japs will be back for round 2

>>520199299
You mean Taiwan. The us didn't come in to save the Communist nigger.

>>520199044
And? You know the US invented cars right? But BYD or whatever chink startup now has the fastest production car ever made and it's a EV. Same with planes.

>>520199397

After the US entered WWII
After the attack on Pearl Harbor, the US entered into an alliance with China and directly engaged Japan in combat.
US air power was instrumental in disrupting Japanese supply lines in China.
US military efforts, along with China's continued resistance, eventually helped push back Japanese forces, although Japan's defeat was also due to its war in the Pacific and other Allied powers.

You dumb nigger

he looks like there's 3 those hypermasculine filters on his face

>>520199044
Mr. Kiwi, what did I misinterpret in >>520198460?
>>520199732
His point was that the cpc wasn't in control of China then, and was not the direct benefactor of U.S support

>>520199896
It was because FDR's government was infested by communists. America was a catatrophically shitty ally to Nationalist China and it was on purpose.

>>520192159
Thanks Shlomo Rubelstein

>>520199603
China invented gunpowder and paper but europe turned them into rifles and the printing press.
Just inventing something doesn't mean one will have the monopoly on it or be the ones that continue to improve on it.
The stationed zogdog kiwinigger is indeed we wuzzing without thinking it through

>>520199827
Ever heard of make up?

>>520199603
>But BYD or whatever chink startup now has the fastest production car ever made and it's a EV. Same with planes.
Faster doesn't mean better. BYD recently recalled over 115,000 cars due to design and battery issues.

>>520197206
>>520196993
>>520195664
>>520194026

so much china slop. china will NEVER get ahead of the united states. in fact, i dont think other country in the world can. its guaranteed that the USA will be the world's strongest superpower until the end of time

>>520198508
>RUSSIA WILL BE OUR ALLY
Burger man. Come on now.
You can't just arm and bomb a nation and then when the screws are tied to you suddenly pretend as if the enemy nation is your best friend

>mass replying migger /k/oping and seething about losing this hard
Whatever helps (you) avoid ACK-ing, i guess

>>520201155
Didn't GM recall a bunch of cars, like 700,000 just last week?
Jewsa number one in car recalls tho

>>520191468 (OP)
So trump won again and chinks are coping? Typical.

>>520198508
Are homoerotic rivals-to-lovers fantasies the natural conclusion to the cold warrior mindset in a post-China world?

>>520191468 (OP)
glory to the CCP!

>>520201038
pierdolnij się w ten tępy polski kurwa ryj pewnie jesteś tym cwelem POjebem co zasrywa katalog

>>520202133
yea
And the dollar is strong
The economy is fine
Pissrael is greatest ally
And you are a real woman

>tariffs enacted by usa
>goods withheld by china

"deal made"
>tariffs relaxed
>goods no longer withheld
hey we're back to square 1

>>520202133
>Goybeans aren't being bought
>China still going to restrict metals
>Still haven't even signed over Tiktok
>Trump lowers Tariffs by 10%

Literally nothing has changed except that he gave some concessions in the hopes that someone buys their fucking SNOYBEANS
it's all about the beans

>>520192862
True, and then you're going to send out all to China to get refined, right?

>>520202263
Chinksect

>>520202284
Yea but now your country is generally poorer than before and the shekel is weaker. So you are worse than before

>>520203740
>shekel is weaker
That's a symptom of a much larger change: third world vassal countries waking up to the fact that the US can lash out at them whenever it wants, and their subsequent move towards brics/anit-dollardom

>>520203988
Yea, basically
Nobody trust the burger shekel. Even your own people don't trust it anymore and thus run towards crypto and gold.
The entire world is preparing for the imminent collapse of jewsa. It's not a matter of IF anymore but WHEN.

China & America are big, strong nations. Everyone benefits from us working together. Working together is a rare opportunity and potentially very profitable.