Thread 520249118

What tribal lines is American society realistically going to divide themselves over?

Political; Right vs Left?
Racial; White vs Black vs Latinos vs Asians vs Jews etc?
Class; Poor vs Rich? Civilian vs Military?

Also most importantly: Who would WIN?

No biasness or bullshit /pol/, just stick to the facts here.

>>520249118 (OP)
Based on demographics, America's average IQ for it's youth under 25 is likely 88 - 92, below every developed nation and on the level of third world middle eastern countries. It is going to be destroyed thanks to Jews, but the question is whether it will birth a phoenix from the ashes or not. There is no correction course that can occur with a unified country with the same rules and laws and government departments anymore. There is no political solution.


The only solution that can logistically work is a White Nationalist state breaking off from the rest of America, then dominating and ethnically cleansing the smaller brown majority nations that were once US states, made possible because the people in them are no longer citizens of the hypothetical White Nationalist ethnostate. That's why Jews are so terrified of heartland rural America and want it on opioids and disarmed, because they think in terms of centuries and know that region has the power to break off from the US and start recapturing and purging all the smaller fragments.


Jews don't want White Americans to realise this, they want you voting for antiwhite civnat stooges like Nick Fuentes who spout all this based language about race, but cuck on US demographics in their realpolitik in order to atomise and destroy your race further and further. The only solution the US will get is with violence, rural White Americans butchering Washington and Wall Street, controlling key nodes of power, then purging the Hispanic and Black regions of the country, with a new country with a new set of laws that don't give a shit about their rights. The alternative is a Brasil 2.0 with the world's largest nuclear arsenal, which would be a complete fucking disaster not only for America but Western civilization as a whole, as it would quickly turn it's guns on Europe and the other White former colonies.

Fuck that anti White wop mutt Fuentes, accelerate

>>520249118 (OP)
any "civil war" that doesnt conclude with the utter expulsion of every single jew in the country, is a kiked up shabbos goy pilpul

In Alaska everyone is politically right, white, can't survive here if you're poor. So I think we'd just hang around and not give a fuck. My town isn't on any grid, hydro power, so the worst that would happen is people run stop signs.

>>520249340
literally nobody relevant in the rest of the world ever thinks even a small modicum about alaska. what are you fuckers so fucking proud off that youre so national conservative about? you fuckers proud of your crumbling icey infrastructure or your daily survival skills that get tested every single day because the land wants you fuckers dead

>>520249172
>The alternative is a Brasil 2.0 with the world's largest nuclear arsenal, which would be a complete fucking disaster not only for America but Western civilization as a whole, as it would quickly turn it's guns on Europe and the other White former colonies
Very interesting premise. This is basically already happening right now though, with Israeli/Jews controlling American politics as a proxy. Jews are more scheming/crafty than any other ethnic group in the world, so they won't overtly use US might to blatantly hunker down on all their enemies though.

I can foresee if indians for example, took the same political control over the US as jews currently do, Pakistan and maybe even China would be wiped out almost instantly, nuclear winter be damned.

Red rural/exurban South + Midwest vs. blue coastal metros. Flyover country secedes or forms autonomous zones; cities become siege islands (like Sarajevo 1992).

>>520249449
>crumbling icey infrastructure
I have LED headlights but we don't want LED street lights. We have no fluoride in our water. Those 2 things are worth it.

>>520249643
I think I'd enjoy living in Alaska, specifically Fairbanks. I'm in North Dakota now so used to the negative temps for the most part. The polar night and midnight sun would take getting used to.

Charlie Kirk was kind of the epitome of what kind of whites we need in this country. He had the wit, the competency, and the nerve to be a social catalyst.

Even in my synagogue the rabbis made a point to mourn his death for his exemplary character, courage, and friendship to the Jewish community. Believe it or not, the conservative Jews love white American Christian evangelicals. It's going to be us against the world eventually.

AAA for the tribal lines, it will be race and religion. The Mexicans and other Latino groups will coalesce around language and faith. Basically, Christianity has to be the glue to keep the ship afloat because it's the ONE NATION UNDER GOD and unlike we Jews who don't try to recruit more Jews actively, Christians can bring more people to the word.

Muslims will be a significant player in the cultural schism.

Blacks will be divided across thug life, Christianity, Islam, and "science" which is the religion of the modern whites as well.

May God bring us back to righteousness.

>>520249118 (OP)
incoming

>>520249118 (OP)
>Political; Right vs Left?
>Racial; White vs Black vs Latinos vs Asians vs Jews etc?
>Class; Poor vs Rich? Civilian vs Military

Yes.

did you really think it would just be two sides?

>>520250078
Eventually it will be. As the war wages on alliances will form and it will ultimately coalesce into 2 distinct factions.

Will there be infighting between the factions based on previous tribal grievances? Yes obviously. But it's better to be allied now against the side 2 groups can agree they hate more than make it a FFA.

Thats how most wars eventually turn into. Learn some history.

>>520249118 (OP)
>What tribal lines is American society realistically going to divide themselves over?
nonwhites group up based on skin color
whites immediately begin crafting 1000+ questions surveys that any one wrong answer gets you killed

>>520249118 (OP)
Christian Carnivore Conservative Republican Patriot Heterosexual Countryman Father Husband Grandfather Veteran Hardworking Nationalist Nazi Capitalist
>versus
Atheist Devil Worshiper Vegetarian Liberal Democrat Traitor Homosexual Urban Sterile Antiwar NEET Globalist Communist

>>520249118 (OP)
Humans vs jews and goy cattle

You'll the CIA fighting the CIA fighting the CIA fighting Mossad

>>520249118 (OP)
whites and yellows vs browns and blacks

Honestly it's gonna split down class lines and literal color similarities.
Middle class got gutted out, so more had downwards mobility, telling all the poors their plight.
Then all the literal pale skins will tend to congregate, with the libs who try to side w/ the mass black/brown menaces, they'll get cannibalized (maybe even literally).
So it'd be this quasi 4 way between poor black/browns, rich whites/other, poor whites/other, rich blacks/browns w/ traitor whites that leash them.
What a clusterfuck, holy shit.

>>520249118 (OP)
It would be ideology vs ideology vs ethnic group vs ethnic group.

>>520249118 (OP)
>>520249118 (OP)
I think you'd see things cut along racial lines pretty heavily, and then you'd see within white communities especially cut heavily between age and occupation.

You'd have lots of "prepper boomer zionst" who are going to try and take in Black and Jews but end up getting killed by them, but the younger generation, say under 30 will absolutely no mix with the boomers. I also think all EMS/Cops/Fire etc... will start out pretty cucked until the dindus start killing them.

I think most people who have a military background are not going to fall for getting cucked by zionist and people who scream "racist" every second.

>>520249118 (OP)
Jews and Golems VS everyone else.

>>520249118 (OP)
Regional, racial, ideological, and religious simultaneously. Only guarantee is an independent Mormon polity. A US collapse would be an unmitigated disaster.

hilarious thread!
tim pool would be proud!
hahalol

>>520249118 (OP)
Rich vs poor. Rich neighborhoods getting looted on day one once the tipping point is reached.

>>520249118 (OP)
Multiple sides but with alliances. Race would not be one because despite what foreigners think there are niggers who hate niggers and whites who hate whites. It would be more territorial "clans" so to speak. A group of people with similar beliefs defending the area they keep their families. Rich or poor wouldnt make a difference because money wouldn't matter. Why would I work for you for money to buy shit from nobody when I can just kill you now and take it back to my people. It would be messy with lots of tribalism.

If you aren't white, goodnight! (civnat/WERE THE REAL JEW Christians aren't white either)

>>520249118 (OP)
BLM
Marxists
Professors
Cartels

Vs
Farmers
Constitutionalists
Gun afficionadoes

>>520249118 (OP)
Depends how one would start. Civil wars typically happen over disputed elections or some black swan event that acts for a catalyst. Yugoslavia was a very slow-moving crisis which didn't reach a breaking point until 1991, dspite the fact it really began in 1986. The United States does not have exclusive ethnic-dominated states which could secede, so the Yugoslav analogy doesn't really work. The main area where it is valid is the type of fighting. Very localised, neighbour against neighbour, town against town, city against rural areas. The side with the most guns and secure food supplies basically wins in contested areas. An armed confrontation between the National Guard or of one state or another has been suggested. I don't think, though, this would lead to an actual shooting war. The last time where some kind of civil conflict seemed quite possible was 2020 and the aftermath of that election.

To address your questions directly, it wouldn't be "right" or "left". The texture of the conflict would closely resemble the Spanish Civil War and the Congo mixed together. Political and social dimensions. You have one loosely-aligned faction on the right and another on the left, but all of them frequently fight each other. The collapse would be systemic, so anarchy in most places, stability in others, famine and disease, law enforcement non-existent, communal violence and genocide is the norm.

>>520249118 (OP)
American vs everyone else

>>520249118 (OP)
All of the above.

>Also most importantly: Who would WIN?
America is really big. I think most factions will win their own territories while other factions will lose their hold on other territories I think the conclusion of the civil war will not necessarily be a question of "who wins" but rather who wins what territories and resources. I think America will balkanize and different factions will win their own smaller territories. Some factions will probably completely lose out though and not win any territory at all.

>>520251357
No thanks, chink, you are every bit as undesirable as the other niggers.

>>520249118 (OP)
Fallout NV.

>>520249118 (OP)
If civil war breaks out, the game is going to totally change depending on who controls the federal government, obviously.

basically it's going to be the groups that feel aligned with the federal government vs everybody else

>>520251357

Sounds good to me.

>>520251532

>they'll get cannibalized (maybe even literally).

There’s no Maybe about it. They would absolutely get cannibalized. As they did every time there was a massive Nigger chimpout .

>>520249118 (OP)
probably evolves from class then reduced down to racial/political as it continues on.

>>520256553

And over time different territories with things in common with establish diplomacy, nonaggression pacts, trade and eventually confederate. Large confederacies will also be able to expand and take over territory of lesser groups (literally and genetically lesser. Ie Dearborn turns into a Muslim enclave but twenty years later is crushed and exterminated by a renewed White Alliance in the surrounding areas.

Give it a few hundred years and you might even get something approaching a white reconquista of the continent. But it will be brutal and there will be Gigadeaths on the way.

>>520249118 (OP)
hands down that scene is one of the funniest I've ever seen

>>520249118 (OP)
Browns would divide along ethnic or religious lines, but as ethnicity and religion go hand in glhand it’s the same result.
Whites would primarily divide along political lines.

>>520251806
this

If a civil war were to truly breakout, you’d see trillions of dollars wiped off the NYSE immediately. The dollar would collapse and every financial institution in the country would implode. It would be the Great Depression x100. No more retirement. Food will become scarce. Regardless of outcome everyone loses.

>>520249118 (OP)
It starts out political and becomes racial. Liberalism rapidly decays in any crisis scenario as its nature as a luxury ideology becomes apparent; conservativism reemerges as the default by necessity. Whites band together as the sociopolitically unaffiliated & leftist 'allies' become easy targets of opportunity for the spiteful brown horde. Whites remain the most inclusive, but become more selective as to whom they form alliances with based on utility to the in-group & willingness to assimilate. All low-IQ White criminal elements are ostracized and quickly weeded out; only a handful of the particularly brutal & cunning remain to rally quasi-communistic brown gangs around them. Without such leaders, browns start out united in hatred for Whites, but shortly fracture along their own ethnic lines to squabble over territory & dwindling resources. The military attempts to maintain order, but a major portion deserts, and the remaining golem fraction will be the power around which non-Whites rally until logistical breakdown. UN forces & foreign militaries (allies & enemies) intervene, either via proxies or direct force, but find it costly & untenable against near-ubiquitous civilian gun ownership. The cities are chaos under martial law and eventually empty out, but order never fully collapses for most of the country as conservative factions assume control of existing legal & logistical infrastructure and/or build anew. Whites + east Asians are the most natural allies, but by absolute numbers it will be more of Whites + high-IQ upstanding blacks & Hispanics. A small portion of Jews are assimilated by Whites, but many more are too proud and attempt to flee the country or face brown pogroms. Whites & allied factions win --not easily, but in time-- for the same reason Whites won historically, which is that Whites have the IQ distribution, division of labor, & temperament / time preference best suited to building & maintaining civilization.

>>520249118 (OP)
It would be very messy with blurry lines based mostly on small group identities that may or may not align with each other. It will be the “we’re trying to kill them because they’re trying to kill us” mentality in most places. Think French Revolution mixed with Rwanda.

>>520249118 (OP)
Foreign nations will step in and take over.
The south not receiving foreign aid they were counting on was the deciding factor during the last civil war in the USA.
Same story as the rest of the world, but it's usually the (((USA))) that's the foreign influence, though sometimes a European or Asian nation.
My best guess would be Mexico will claw back some territory; maybe China will go all in. NATO states might try something via Canada. China and Russia will definitely be involved; it doesn't have to be boots on the ground, and probably will not be.

>>520249118 (OP)
You will get balkanization. This continent is so fucking big that there will be no overlaps in ideology of the ruling warlords. It's gonna be bloody.

>>520255205
>constitutionalists
lol, lmao, kek even

>>520249118 (OP)
fuck anyone who isn't a 3rd generation American or married to one
everyone else needs to get the fuck out

>>520258996
No. Quit telling resources to leave. If they stay, you get to take their loot drops when the lights go out.

>>520249118 (OP)
jews and shabbos goyim against everyone else

>>520251357
the yellows can fuck off too.

>>520258238

You’ve got the order wrong on that. The economy and the USD collapses - then the civil war breaks out.

>>520258350

So basically pic related.

>>520249907
Die.