Thread 520375898

https://x.com/kimmonismus/status/1984737739364057599?s=46

Linked to tweet with article rather than just article

-Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell dismissed fears that the AI surge is another dotcom-style bubble, emphasizing that today’s tech giants actually generate profits and drive tangible growth!

-He framed AI investment as a long-term productivity play, not one fueled by cheap credit, noting its visible impact on the U.S. economy—from data centers to power grids.

-Economists from Goldman Sachs and JPMorgan echoed his stance, projecting trillions in potential productivity gains and modest but steady contributions to GDP growth.

>>520375898 (OP)
HOLY FUCKING SHIT SELL EVERYTHING
BETTER YET SHORT IT

>>520375898 (OP)
Just like the meme flu inflation was going to be transitory, right?

and this paper says the longer AI does math the more mistakes it makes

and this, too
from this week

>>520376731
>the longer AI does math the more mistakes it makes
and if you tie it into a proof verification system then it can't make mistakes anymore, that paper is as retarded as you are

>>520376817
this is an issue with the training method
instead of allowing an AI to explore and make mistakes, then correct them, we train them in a completely braindead way where we just take text and train it to anticipate the next words

>>520377085
<<<---lol
this is the boomers' entire mentality baked in

>it's not a bubble
lol
lmao

and then there is this paper from one of MIT's nine Institute Professors

>>520376982
why not use the proof verification system then and just shit can the "AI"?

>>520376087
It'll somehow be a bubble that is perpetually bursting AND inflating. It'll gobble up infinite resources while crashing everything around it, forever.

>>520375898 (OP)
Well if the federal reserve jew said it then it must be true

>>520377597
this. it has nothing to do with AI itself (though it is shitty and no one wants yet another chatbot), it's the roundtripping these companies are all doing that's signalling there's definitely a bubble

<<<---lol

AI is for population control. That's why they're investing so much in it. That's why all the concerns go out the window when it comes to energy, resources, and money invested. Nobody watches TV anymore, the internet is the TV, and AI is the ticket to controlling the message across the internet. To them this is more important than anything, and worth any amount of money.

>>520378138
That’s because the elitists need it for their surveillance state

>>520378409
kind of what I'm thinking. like Orwell's barn wall but real time and adaptive to users. it will be the only way to get any information.

kek

>>520378409
eh it's all just about money, they all know it's hyped bullshit and other than social media has no real world application

lol

>>520378409
That is a pretty good explanation for a lot of the fuckery.

>>520378378
Why lol?

>>520378971
i'm assuming because stupid fucks are worshipping it as some sort of antichrist itt

>>520378035
>why not use the proof verification system
because the proof verification system can't attempt to automatically solve a proof in a semi-non-bruteforce way
I'm not going to say it's actually exploring to find a solution, but it's better than brute force

>>520378971
that fraudulent paper had the phrase 'vegetative electron microscopy'
pic related explains it

>>520378572
They don't care about money because they already own the money printer. It's always been about control.

>>520376664
Powell is a snake.

>>520379274
>stupid fucks are worshipping it as some sort of antichrist
i don't think people worship the antichrist either

>>520375898 (OP)
Yeah let's listen to the old guy who probably doesn't even know what ML is

>>520375898 (OP)
nothing will happen till 2028, enjoy the ride

lololol

>>520376982
Absolute retard.

>>520379674
what about that is wrong, you retarded britfaggot cuckold?

>>520379499
>he says as london yard inspects this post for hate speech against raping browns
lmao, it's always about the money. they're milking as much as they can before people realize it's all snake oil. as we saw during covid, control is not an issue

>>520378409
It's also because the NSA has so much information in Utah that they can't sort through manually. Ai can make images and video searchable for specific words, faces, etc

<<<-- criminal network using thousands of AI-written fraudulent papers

>>520380059
>the ai bubble is just so the NSA can finally search images and video
most retarded post

>today’s tech giants actually generate profits and drive tangible growth
ok sure but of course overly optimistic speculation even on something useful can crash pretty hard

it sucks that the usa doesn't like to have even minimal safeguards... particularly for the common man on the street the repeated crashes, bubbles and heated speculation sucked ass, didn't it?

>>520379308
isn't extrapolation from the LLM essentially a scoped brute force to begin with? perhaps even worse with repeats or circular output.

>>520376523
It's actually more useless (for plebs) than the lightbulb.
>The lightbulb democratized productivity
>AI centralizes productivity gains

>>520376523
I actually don't think true artificial intelligence to the point of self-awareness and self-preservation is actually physically possible. Whatever it tops out at will be an elaborate illusion but not true intelligence or sentience. It can be useful still, to be sure, but think more like TARS from Interstellar I guess.

>>520380724
90% honesty.

>>520380565
i would be laughed out of my field if I had to ask AI even one question

>>520380724
>I actually don't think true artificial intelligence to the point of self-awareness and self-preservation is actually physically possible.
It's not. You cannot program free will/agency. You can fake it via random walks / monte carlo chains, but it's still predictable at the end of the day.

>>520375898 (OP)
It's a scam. I can't get over how so many people, some of them intelligent, think we're on the verge of AI changing everything.

>>520375898 (OP)
>Powell says it's not a bubble like the dot com bubble
That's a top signal. Hold on to your potatoes!

>>520380724
it has made it easier to search for images on my computer
that is about it
any info it produces has to be vetted anyway

>>520375898 (OP)
> its fourth quarter results for the periodending July 26, 1997. Cisco closed its fiscal year with revenue of $6.44 billion, an increaseof 57% over the previous year.
>For the fiscal year ending July 31, 1999, Cisco reported revenue of $12.15 billion, a 43 percent increase compared with revenue of $8.49 billion in fiscal 1998.
>For fiscal 2000, Cisco reported revenue of $18.93 billion, a 55-percent increase when compared with revenue of $12.17 billion in fiscal 1999

Powell is either lying or a retard because Cisco had earnings during the dotcom bubble

>>520380786
What field?
Mines in Math/Robotics/AI.

who genAI would replace first

>>520375898 (OP)
>i can't name anyone making money but trust me it's all good

>>520380957
biophysics and genetic engineering

>>520378409
this, digital panopticon.

>>520380565
A.I makes workers richer tho

>>520376087
This is easy money, since AI is actually just a black project being revealed as a front for the real purposes of the data centers: namely servers full of spy data on every man alive gleaned in real time from the internet. AI can sort through this info, but the real justification for this "bubble" makes it unpoppable.

>in b4 "you're not important enough to spy on"
You are and it's all in those centers.

>>520381031
NVIDEA, Microsoft, meta, Apple, Alphabet, and Amazon are taking in hundreds of billions.

>>520378409
>AI is for population control. That's why they're investing so much in it. That's why all the concerns go out the window when it comes to energy, resources, and money invested. Nobody watches TV anymore, the internet is the TV, and AI is the ticket to controlling the message across the internet. To them this is more important than anything, and worth any amount of money.
Yes. That's exactly right.
>t Roboticist/AI dev with 2 PhDs

>>520378572
>>520379925
Has absolutely nothing to do with money. They've lost control of the pleb and AI is the last real chance they have to put the genie in the bottle. Thinking about money when the entire economy is fake and gay is pants on head retarded.

>>520381138
>A.I makes workers richer tho
No it doesn't
>memeflaggot
kys jew

>>520381185
META's money didn't come from their AI investment but growth on their platforms and increased ad revenue which is why their stock went down I don't know why you niggers post because you're so fucking stupid

>>520375898 (OP)
>DONT WORRY WE ARE TOTALLY NOT ABOUT TO LOSE A SHIT TON OF MONEY
>DO NOT PULL OUT YOUR INVESTMENTS PLEASE
>ONLY THE TOP 0.1% CAN DO INSIDER TRADING. NOT YOU
>IGNORE EVERY SIGN THAT SAYS ITS A BUBBLE
Jews mad because people are going to keep their money when the bubble bursts instead of only them making huge profits off of the burst.

>>520375898 (OP)
>Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell dismissed fears that the AI surge is another dotcom-style bubble, emphasizing that today’s tech giants actually generate profits and drive tangible growth!
How do bag holders feel?

>>520381037
Bio-computing when

>>520381185
You're a moron, speculative value without actual return is what makes it a bubble. The only thing keeping it afloat is government involvement.

>>520380861
I've been meaning to look into setting up image sorting AI on the computer. Any recommendations?

>>520381403
fortunately for us, heavily mutated genomes do not last long outside the lab

>>520381415
It's not even a lack of return but that the return is much lower than the valuation as I pointed out here >>520380870 Cisco was constantly bringing in revenue during the dotcom bubble which Powell knows and is just lying about

>>520381180
You don't even need to be important enough to spy on. A case just came up of a woman being confronted by cops, told she robbed a place, charges pressed, and only because she's one of those freaks who records everything she does, did she have evidence to send in showing their AI cameras were completely wrong.
AI spy data is shit because AI at scale is shit, and sooner or later it'll cause trouble for everyone.

So it's a bubble then. Valuable insight as always from the fed.

>>520381475
my new computer does it, not an AI app I downloaded or anything
if i just search for cat, it gives me images that have the word cat as well as images of cats that are unlabelled
iam going to say this is its best use case so far for regular people
the digital art is nice
its poems are okay
artists seem threatened by it
my new computer forced me to use it and won't let me shut it off kek

>>520381689
Ah okay. Yeah I've been avoiding going to Windows 11. A Linux fag was telling me he set up something or another to be able to search through his images with alarming accuracy, but you know how Linux fags are.

how the fuck does it stimulat GDP to fire all the workers and offshore rest of labour to india?
at some point you run out of people who can purchase any products you make

>>520375898 (OP)
The more important topic should be the fact the fed is going back to QE so asset prices will start pumping they can't let the market crash because the US economy is sustained by the top 10% who now account for 50% of US consumer spending and their wealth is derived from their stocks

>>520381963
Well, you see, line go up.

>>520382017
Their wealth isn’t derived from stocks it’s from working. They’re holding onto their stocks

>>520381963
Want to know the real value? It comes from the data it siphons. Based on prompts over time, you can gauge what a person will type in, in the future. It's a prediction engine at it's heart and it will be used to predict your life. That's the value. A literal crystal ball on human actions.

>>520382136
Their increased wealth is derived from their stocks you dumb nigger if you see your stock is up 100% it gives you the confidence to spend more money which is what's been happening

>>520378409
Don't you love when 1.5 billion poojeets worship AI?

>>520378572
>money
how to spot a glowie or a retard

the defense industry
like always.
look at all the new weapons they are developing with AI.

>>520379925
>it's always about the money
Nope, lurk moar.

the Fed can be replaced by AI, too

>>520382157
>Want to know the real value? It comes from the data it siphons. Based on prompts over time, you can gauge what a person will type in, in the future. It's a prediction engine at it's heart and it will be used to predict your life. That's the value. A literal crystal ball on human actions.
I've been working on a site allowing you to look at digital control schemes and how the interact and feed into one another.

>>520375898 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCGD9dT12C0

>>520382765
>I've been working on a site allowing you to look at digital control schemes and how the interact and feed into one another.

>>520382951
The whole thing is a self-reinforcing feedback loop where your behavior generates data, data generates predictions, predictions shape your options, and your constrained options generate more predictable behavior.

>>520381185
The only one of those making any money at all off of AI is Nvidia, and that's because they're selling the shovels. Everyone else has profitable non-AI businesses with AI shaped tumors attached to them.

>>520383219
>The whole thing is a self-reinforcing feedback loop where your behavior generates data, data generates predictions, predictions shape your options, and your constrained options generate more predictable behavior.

>>520375898 (OP)
Jerome Powell has been wrong about literally everything so far.

>>520383358
i wonder if you can get a fioaa on your online user profile.

>>520383551
You can foia your own file, but the main problem is that it's an active and ongoing government investigation. So nothing will be issued and it is logged in triplicate on your file.

>>520382215
You’re stupid

>>520375898 (OP)
>earnings

those earning are literally 400x PE

>>520382536
this literally costs americans money on their power bill. Stop asking AI dumb fucking questions.

Last year americans reportedly past 3 cents each because retards keep telling numerous AI "Good Morning"

>>520384463
Wow what a rebuke! You clearly destroyed what I said which is the same sentiment of every economist too btw

>>520375898 (OP)
How would he possibly know or be qualified to say that

>>520384660
You can't fix low iq. Prices must go up.

>>520385122
stop it Ranjeet

Just get to the point with AI. No need its ask it how its day is going. Its not real

>>520384739
Not true, I own stocks but most of my money comes from working lol. But sure keep bitching and whining and crying

>>520375898 (OP)
>nvidia has earnings
>from all the money invested into AI corps that give nvidia money for new GPU's that don't do anything but help third worlders cheat on exams
Not a bubble, just a legendary ewaste event that's propped up by trillions.

>>520385486
>run the world and produce everything you enjoy
>do nothing
Lol

>>520379321
So does it shove in more or less meaningless technobabble than the average Star Trek writer?

AI is not a bubble. I'm a coder working for Meta. Saying it's a bubble is short sighted because the plan is to put AI in charge of as many world systems as possible. It doesn't matter if it messes up 10% of the time because human error is 15% and AI is cheaper. You will be judged by AI judges and juries and defended by an AI lawyer in 10 years. You will elect AI politicians (already happening in Albania). You have no idea the things AI will be unfittingly put in charge of. It will change the world even if it's shit. It's going to be forced into that position whether it does a good job or not.

>>520384660
this is hilarious and encouraging you dork

>>520381403
It's already a thing.

https://youtu.be/3KeC8gxopio?si=pt60xyp1_cSGE8J4

Organoids are really good at motor control

>>520375898 (OP)
The only AI shit that is making any money is the one being sold to governments for surveillance and shit btw, multiple AI art sites are going full jew, and chatbots are getting dumber each day, the only good shit is made locally, this WILL burst but not in the way you think and the consequences will be beyond your wildest dreams

>>520380724
>>520380799
Is an ant intelligent? Neural networks are already capable of a lot more complex tasks that “intelligent” people can’t do. Whether they have a “soul” or whatever else bullshit doesn’t matter when they can still replace 90% of workers.

The same people telling you AI is a bubble and will explode are the people who told you not to invest in bitcoin because it’s just a bubble without inherent value btw. Keep that in mind :)

>>520376523
They said this about personal work computers in the 70s and all it's lead to is lower pay and still doing 8 hours of work a day.

>>520379308
>a couple of orders of magnitude short of astronomical
haha what an improvement