Thread 520410521

Will it balkanize?

> no crymea
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America and Russia will both balkanize within 20 years.

>>520410521 (OP)
oinnnk Taras, how's daddy?

I balkanize faggots with a chainsaw in a basement
body parts on the floor lots of blood on the wall
draw abstract gore like a Jackson Pollock painting

>>520410521 (OP)

Thing are unironically going in this directions right now. There are signs that the system is starting to break down, mostly in civilian sectors.
For a time the government can maintain the illusion of stability by funneling resources into the army and the violence apparatus, but these resources are smaller each year and at some point there will be not enough to keep it up.

>>520410521 (OP)
Yes, but Novaya Zemlya will become an independent fortress of Neo-Stalinism hoarding Russia's entire nuclear arsenal

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>>520411331
I'm not asking for your copeposting. Just an opinion on whether russia will finally collapse and balkanize, because I can see that coming in the next 20-50 years.

>>520411369
least delusional draft dodger

>>520411331
>I balkanize faggots with a chainsaw in a basement

>>520411496

Maybe in your Afd infested shithole news don't come about, but Russia just adopted a very interesting budget for 2026 in which literally everything except defense and internal security is slashed, once again. Despite inflation.
Add they now ration gasoline in several regions. Things are breaking down.

>>520411479
> soon
well you would have to put up with it till then

Balkanization would lead to China gobbling up all the natural resources. The west is juggling a difficult balance: Russia must not balkanize, but it
also cannot be allowed to conquer its neighbors. Hence Ukraine receiving only a little bit of help.

>>520411867
hato has already spent the worth than two itty bitty armies in equipment to the frontline along with 50k polacks and 10k ameriwhites

>>520412016
Also 10000000 space marines and a death star.

>>520412141
you've clearly mistake the word "psecks" and "space", judai

>>520411867
China already has these resources, it's a moot point now.
Putin was offered by Trump a place in the coalition against China with Ukraine being the price. Putin refused. Russia is in Chinese sphere now, another barbarian kingdom in the returning old Chinese tributary system.

>>520412016
I'm still waiting for anyone to show me the graves of Poles who were supposedly mass 200'd in Ukraine. So far we have a handful of individuals who volunteered and they die like once in half a year.

>>520412239
>I'm still waiting for anyone to show me the graves of Poles who were supposedly mass 200'd in Ukraine.
Poland is not r*ssia. You can't just hide deaths.

>>520412345

That's the point. If 200000000 Polish "mercenaries" were killed, there should be grave somewhere. Or relatives asking questions where their husbands/sons/fathers are.

>>520412239
>show me the graves
why not a memorial

>>520412428

If not graves, show me cases in which Polish families look for missing men.

Unlike your shithole, where people go to jail for criticizing the Kremlin Goblin, Poland has freedom of press. Someone should've picked the story that several families haven't heard from their relatives who went to Ukraine.

Normal people can be aware of this crap now, the only thing they need is corpse awareness

>>520412565
> poopland won't hide any losses
sure, you'd just put up with any losses

then lose two of the southern regions to civil war with porks, bc frankly that's their rightful historical place

>>520410521 (OP)
Yeah dude. They have 50km long gas lines at every gas station. They are out of troops (1,2 million dead), tanks, airplanes, AD. They are using donkeys to transport supplies, fighting with shovels and losing troops at 14:1 ratio. The 20 rounds of sanctions are working and Putin is spinning. Putin also has dementia, cancer, alzheimer's, he doesn't have long to live. Ukraine is holding Pokrovsk, Kupyansk, and Myrnohrad. Russians are advancing so slowly that if you zoom out they're not even advancing. At this rate they will conquer Ukraine in 2145.

Their war time economy is doing poorly and they don't have much money left. They are only able to continue because China is giving them money, Iran is sending them drones and North Korea is sending them cannonfodder. All North Koreans in Kursk died.

It's so over for ruZZia.

>>520412656
>poopland won't hide any losses

No, actually we won't. Because unless you are an authoritarian shithole where people disappear for asking too many questions, such things can't be hidden for too long.
Some would film corpses in morgue, some family would go to the press looking for relatives, someone would photograph graves.

>>520410521 (OP)
Pretty much never. Next question?

I am going to give you guys a redpill, it's like my boomer dad says, the russians are behind everything. They are behind all evil in the world. But what would the world be like without them?

The population of Spain and Germany would be totally teplaced. Men would have no sex at all and everybody's kid would be mandatorily turned into a tranny like elon musk or the president of canadas son.

The russian trolls are saviors of the whole world. The guys dying in donbass are saviors of the white race, even though they are not white.

Russia is the final hope of thw entire world. Our belief in kindness, in the ability to prrserve our natiins and cultures

>>520411369
Poland will get partitioned again, isn't it, jeet?

>>520412907

I need VPN recommendation. Which one you use?

>>520410521 (OP)
no, because everyone on the territory depends on Moscow to simply survive.
And that's a good thing, it would be mad max with nuclear weapons available everywhere

>>520412907
You are right. I am going to immediately contact my local representatives and insist on increasing military aid to Ukraine.

>>520413889
You could say the same thing about ussr yet here we are.

>>520413889
>no, because everyone on the territory depends on Moscow to simply survive.

I'm pretty sure the same argument was given about the entire former Soviet block, which the Soviets were actively trying to mend into a closed system in which everyone was depended on the Imperial Core for survival.

It turns out that yes, they were some lean years initially, but in the end getting rid of the giant tribute-extracting parasite was good in the long run.

>>520412907
>They are behind all evil in the world
That would be the USA, althoughbeitever.

>>520413968
>>520414167
not really, it was real states with capitals, what is left now is almost not viable, nobody else wants it

>>520410521 (OP)
The US will balkanize first

Russia have never been furthest from "balkanization" than it is now.
westerncucks are so fucking retarded

>>520413430

Nobody knows the future, but probably not. Each partition required a hostile power on both sides of Poland.
Meanwhile, when do Kazakhs kick you out of their homeland?

>>520410521 (OP)
Who would control their nuclear arsenal on your scenario? The EU? The US? Someone is going to be in charge of rounding them up just like Ukraine, except now it's going to be thousands or warheads and not a few hundred.

>>520410521 (OP)
T. Butthurt belter or draft dodger seething that the uki lost 15 more km today

Yes because Russia is a multiethnic empire composed of dozens of different groups that feel no sense of cultural affinity for eachother. What do the Kazakhs, the Sibirs, the Nenets, the Churkas, and the Tartars have in common with Moscow? Very, very little.

>>520415312
>Very, very little.
Didn't matter since Russians used to be the master and all these subhumans knew their place. Either behave or be genocided. Ever since the commie revolution and now Putin things have changed though and shitskins have gotten comfortable and ethnic Russian rights have been severely diminished. This in turn has breeds destabilization and they feel comfortable in chimping out.

>>520410521 (OP)
no you stupid faggot, they wont

>>520415446

I'm pretty sure that if Russia breaks up, it won't go along the ethnic lines. Ethnic minorities other than Chechens are completely gutted out. Like totally. Most of them aren't even majorities anymore in their ethnic homelands. All their elites were either killed or completely compromised, they are intentionally kept in poverty.

No, Russian breakup will be similar to that of South America's escaping the Spanish domination. A huge tracts of land will just escape the central government, taken over as fiefdoms by elites of metropolitan descent. And these elites will continue to keep minorities down or will outright genocide them.

>>520416345
>if Russia breaks up
the more pressing question is how would it even break up.
90% of the Russian population lives at the border of Europe, the rest at the border of China.
there really isn't anyone there in the first place to foment enough dissent to break up. in fact those Siberians are likely dependent to the major population centers for resources for basic living.

>>520418063

It actually makes the breakup more likely. Thinly populated, isolated areas are more easily to be taken over by some rich oligarch who has assets locally.
Russia's unity hinges on the central government being capable to exert its power in all those remote areas. If the breakdowns of the system become more pronounced, they might just slip away.