Thread 520504472

We need to do this in order to win.
Think about what you're doing when you are participating in one of the two Jewish Package Deals of belief systems that were so immensely effective on the Boomers.
It's Reddit/globohomo/multiracialism/feminism vs Boomer Jew-scrotum sack worship/infiniwars/usurious banking/social isolation that ends up creating the very situations that create the multiracialism.
We need to be putting politicians in that run on ideas like giving the left "Free Healthcare" in exchange for ending multiracialism for example.
Stop having left-right direction brain and learn to think like a free person and not a Boomer.
Consider the level of brainwashing you endure from the very second you are born in this gay jew world and consider that this brainwashing is tempting you to go into this Boomer mode of the package deals.
Here's a lifehack on how to know whether it is something that should be promoted like the above example I gave. I ask yourself,
>Would this deal be better for white people on the "right" AND white people on the "left?" Then we should promote it
If you are promoting GOP or Dem ideas you are participating in these two jewish package deals. You are helping jews with your actions when you do this.
Jews will immediately shill this post.

>>520504472 (OP)
I talk to leftoids a lot actually. We all agree israel needs to be dismantled, just for different reasons.

The democrat party isn't a real party with real politics and it's because the left has no actual policies. It is left vs right because the left are all socialists and the core of (non racial) socialism is about opposing liberalism. Liberalism originally being a leftist movement of its own isn't enough for the socialist which wants the government to dictate how to live your life. You saw a bit of it with the covid stuff and "trust the science". They will believe anything the government tells them as long as the government is blue

>>520504472 (OP)
The only leftoid I've seen (and I've seen a lot) who will half-way go along with this in earnest is Caleb Maupin. He has little traction.

>>520504704
Dismantling Israel alone won't save us.
Consider that there are leftist jews are of the philosophical belief that Israel is not worth persuing. They hide it by implying that it's a different belief that they feel sad for all the arabs they kill. The reality is that it's simply their actual belief that Israel harms their ability to jew the goyim and is a risky proposition.
I would argue that taking some semblance of control back in our own countries before the time of dismantling Israel would be a better strategy simply because the U.S. government will never allow that to happen while we are not in control of it.

Leftists need to be butchered more.
We need to do this in order to win.
Leftists have never compromised an inch, it's always conservatards (who are left of center themselves) trying to convince people to compromise to "win." Which is why conservatards are unique in human history to have a 150 year long losing streak.
NEVER compromise with a leftist
NEVER discuss with leftists in good faith
NEVER allow a leftist to live if you have power over him
BUTCHER LEFTISTS AND THEIR FAGGOT ALLIES LIKE OP WHERE EVER YOU FIND THEM, COME THE CIVIL WAR.
NO MERCY. NO QUARTER. ONE WORD OF LEFTIST APOLOGIA = DEATH SENTENCE.

>>520504472 (OP)
I’m a leftist now. A lot of you faggots are insufferable but I’m always here talking to you retards. My edgy side from my chud years comes out a lot still so where else am I going to go?

>>520504472 (OP)
Have you actually tried? These people are just insane

>>520504472 (OP)
There's no point, they're brain-dead. They refuse to use words properly, they won't admit when they're wrong or you're right, they won't even allow other people to have different opinions. Left is full fascist.

Talking to them is a useless exercise in futility.

>>520505355
>Dismantling Israel alone won't save us
No but it's a catastrophic blow to jewry that makes victory possible.
Imagine a world jewry that can't organize an Epstien-Mossad OP or other schemes only sovereign states can manage

>>520504959
You used a lot of words to basically say,
>don't do it goy
If we can convince them that jews ARE the problem, after lifelong brainwashing from birth, we can eventually convince them of anything, especially more things that are true.
Talking to high IQ leftoids, when they realize you are also high IQ, will attempt to logically convince you out of your beliefs rather than their low IQ, slogan-shouting acolytes.
We need to be trying to convince ANY legitimately white, non jewish leftoids that remain out of their beliefs at a fundamental level as well as offering compromise deals that on the whole, help white people on the right, and white people on the left at the same time.
Current paradigm is helping jews/non-whites on one side and jews/boomers on the other side.
We know the boomers are out soon so we must prepare for it.

>>520505754
They look down on you.

>>520505817
They look down on everyone, from below.
Reddit know-it-all know-nothings who conflate education with intelligence because they fear taking an IQ test.

>>520505792
Jews aren't the problem it's socialism, yes most jews are socialist there's practically not a single liberal jew in existence. The easiest way to defeat them is to actually understand socialism which is probably impossible for a majority of people

>>520505999
>Jews aren't the problem
Jew

You catch more flys with honey not vinegar.
If they're white they're alright.

>>520505355
> Dismantling Israel alone won't save us

Maybe not but it’s a GREAT start

>>520505518
I shouldn't even address boomer-style bloviating but I will use this as an example of the boomer brain jew package deal.
What is this boomer getting when the GOP wins?
He gets jews Ws
>Israel wins.
>White people get more 3rd world shitter refugees
>Jews get more money
>A small number of boomers and a VERY small number of non-boomer white people get more money that they already have anyway.
We need to completely change the way people think about and discuss politics. The time is now to do this. People are learning about the kikes and we are in the Pre-TBD Era (Total Boomer Death from Father Time)

>>520506045
reminder that the german socialists were so nice to jews despite hating jews being a main plank of their party they didn't do anything about them

>>520506124
Yes, which is why we should learn from that and not make the same mistake. No jews allowed

>>520505999
Socialism is just workers owning the means of production. It's not difficult to understand at all.

>>520506190
I mean all that would do is collapse the west into regional civil wars where you killed faggots, don't you want to completely dismantle their ideology first?

>>520505817
So? They're brain dead.

>>520506222
that's marxism you twat

Charlie tried to talk to them.

Look what they did to him. Look at how they cheered hiscdeath. They can't see reason. If you are still a leftist in this age of internet and information then you are beyond help.

Leftists just want power. They want murder. The time for talk is over. The time for war is now.

>>520504472 (OP)
The only people who say this have not interacted with lefties long enough. They are duplicitous and xenophilic to a comical degree, borderline parody. If you share commonalities with them then they unironically despise you such as self hating men, whites, heterosexuals, and christians on the left that spend every day lamenting others like them.
They also don't consider loyalty a virtue and assign a negative value to people who are loyal. These are people that celebrated snitching their own flesh and blood out to the feds for social media good boy points in the aftermath of jan 6 or news rags that tell their followers that they need to fight their relatives during thanksgiving dinner.
Jonathan haidt spilled the beans a decade ago on how his own side operate in "righteous minds"

>>520506306
Nuh uh

>>520506373
yeah huh

>>520506279
I have no idea what hypothetical situation this is. I just want to stop jews, physically, from ever organizing in any fashion or holding any power

>>520506331
We thought the left could be reasoned with. Turns out talking to them like they are sane is a mistake. See: Charlie Kirk. So we're done listening now. This is why listening to the enemy is stupid. We see what happened when we tried to give them some grace and humanity. They went full totalitarian and insane. So no more talking with or listening to the enemy. They are wrong and we are right. Begin engaging with the enemy on the same terms they engage with us. They do not matter. The only thing that matters regarding the enemy is their total annihilation. They are not part of the future I want, so what they want is irrelevant. Take this stance going forward and see how easy they are to defeat. Their only power is in you agreeing to humor their bullshit. Let them call you a homophobe, a sexist, a racist. Who ever said those were bad things to begin with? Who defined those terms? Do not let them define you. Reject and dismiss everything your enemy has to say. After all, they are your enemy.

>>520506306
This is what I mean by right wingers bei ny insufferable faggots. You are are just so stupid it’s unreal. We have almost 100 years of throughly documented easy to digest Marxist theory yet you can’t even bring yourself to learn what it is that you criticize

>>520506451
You put all the jews in camps you still have non jews that act exactly like them running around

>>520505518
> no talmud denouncement
Saar
I'm going to needing for you to be kindly denouncing the Judaism
Thank you

>>520504472 (OP)
Leftists won't fall for the NazBol trap

>>520506124
This is your first good argument in this thread yet, by hiding a bit of truth in it (acknowledging that they didn't actually exterminate the jews.)
However it is wrong to attribute that the actual real NSDAP didn't ruthlessly wholesale slaughter them all was their downfall.
It's clear that if everyone stayed out of WW2 and Hitler's Germany was left to face the jewish-controlled Soviet Union he would have BTFOed them. The real reason he lost is because the jews simply managed to convince enough retarded white men inculcated with this BOOMER mentality in the U.S. and our ANGLOID brothers with their Oi Mate - what about NGUBU mentalities in the U.K. These mentalities need to be erased.

>>520506331
But he only ever spoke of Christian Zionism to them.

>>520506506
Nobody else acts like jews.
Some people share some qualities with them, sure but that's hardly the same thing as being like them, or are organized along the same lines.

There's no reasoning with kikes.

>>520505577
The Adolf Hitler worship stuff that rightoids are embracing will certainly not win over leftists
Only Chuds and Islamists enjoy that stuff

>>520506379
Shuddup

>>520506503
>I don't even understand the difference between socialism and marxism
>we need to intellectually go after the left!
well first you'd have to actually know anything

>>520504472 (OP)
Last time someone did try he got shot and paraded around after he got put to rest these fuckers still shitting on him.

>>520505817
We look down on them. What now?

>>520506115
Hating boomers blindly is zoomer leftoid coded

>>520506540
Like 30-40% of my Nazi friends come from leftism.
Do you have friends?

>>520506591
>Nobody else acts like jews.

>>520506331
Charlie ragebaited with college students
That's hardly a sincere attempt at winning anyone over

>>520506530
Tell them to denounce Vishnu as well since some of these pajeets are getting better at it shilling on their behalf.
Or maybe their unlimited jewish ballsack-fellating level of loyalty for them won't allow them to denounce the Talmud either I suppose.

>>520506655
That only happens to weirdos like Andrew Anglin

>>520506546
>the jews made hitler lose WWII
No we did, we did that

>>520506731
I wasn't aware he had anyone like that in his camp. I thought he waa just a grifter who defended Weinstein

>>520506530
I denounce the Talmud
I deny the "holy" ghost
I curse Vishnu
Total Leftist Death
Total Conservative Death
Total Kike Death
Total Nigger Death
Total Journalist Death

>>520504472 (OP)
Motherfucker we have been trying to talk to them for years.
They shoot us in response.
We need to kill liberals, not talk to them.

>>520506653
No, he has a point. Every person I've met over ~50 is a pro-Israel faggot slurping jew cum, and most under 50 are anti zionist if not antisemitic. You're a retarded faggot or as shut in, or a zionigger yourself if you can't see the generational disconnect on this

>>520506817
He was a weirdo leftist in high school, then became a yellow fever wignat in his 20s

>>520504472 (OP)
>We need to talk to leftoids
At best they'll say "Nuh uh" to anything which contradicts them regardless of evidence or statistics.
More often they'll call you a fascist in hopes one of their crazier members will believe it and shoot you.
At worst they'll be the ones to shoot you after calling you a fascist.

No fucking point, anon. Things onky get better with their elimination or forcible expulsion.

>>520504472 (OP)
>Stop having left-right direction brain and learn to think like a free person and not a Boomer.
can we shout this louder for the tards in back? Or is that just the shills?
we need unity, not division and this left vs right bs is how they conquer us
this is how all the great civilizations collapse started, with division, and then invaders
we are so fucked if we do not learn to unite with the people we dont 1000% agree with
>We dont have to agree on everything, but we have to get along
if you leave out 'sides' in conversations with them, and talk about ethics and morals while not placing labels on 'who' is 'ethical and moral' or w/e, you'll find that there is a lot of agreement
a lot of the disagreement comes when you introduce the who, what, and org's into your conversations

>>520506889
The woman that goes and gets 15 covid vaccines and then gets raped by pakis and dumped in a turtle pond is a socialist, not a liberal. They just don't know they're socialists because it's not very marketable

>>520506927
Sounds like a weirdo. I don't care about him

>>520506900
You're clearly brown and not reading the situation properly
People over 50 tacitly support Israel because they view it as a force against Islamism, not because they're philosemites (generally speaking)
And Israel has little to do with the social decay of the US, Israel is mainly bad for humanitarian reasons. But you wiggers support Putin killing actual white people, so even your criticisms of Israel come off as hypocritical

>>520506821
Opinion accepted. Thank you kindly for doing the needful.
FWIW the problem with direction brained faggotry is that both sides benefit the Jews as you know. OP is right that the more whites we can break out of that paradigm and hopefully enlighten to racial tribalism, the stronger we will be (and the weaker Jews will)

>>520504472 (OP)
>We need to talk to leftoids more
They're not coherent and they've lost the ability to even explain their positions on anything. They lost their ability to even talk with people outside their bubble during the Obama era. All they have left is indignation.

>>520506948
>Is a proud fascist
>Gets mad when people call him a fascist

>>520506600
I’m not terribly offended by it obviously but that is not the norm. From my point of view it’s very obvious all the NatSoc shit is just co opted and pushed to dehumanize people and officiate the blame of global capital. To keep people distracted with stupid culture war shit and gradually bring that ideology more in line with the current paradigm of right wing thought. They definitely want to use it to establish an authoritarian state but they don’t like the whole anti Israel thing a lot of chips have going on. But honestly you might be surprised if things get bad enough and the right wing authoritarian bullshit gets too crazy and too obvious about its connection to Israel it’s going to unite both sides and we will end up fighting together. Israel has been committing genocide to the point where the Palestinians stopped really giving a fuck about if they side with nazis or commies they just want to live. If that happens here and it very well could we are all going to be comrades and won’t even think twice until the real threat is done.

>>520506540
Newsflash, I was a leftist until I was around 15 because I cared about the environment. Then Libertarian for a few years. Then full National Socialism and that ideology hasn't cracked one bit in my mind as the others were and have been that way for more years than the other two combined.
You could convince a leftist, some leftists, that it will eventually become NOT POSSIBLE to save the environment if we allow pajeets into all of our nations. It's better to use jeets on women and sub-saharan rape shitter "refugees" on men if they have any testosterone at all in them.
I'm sure my admission of being a leftist when I was a child will be enough to ragebait a lot of incensed boomers to this post, but this type of bloviating shilling doesn't work on thinking people.

>>520507112
I was a leftist, then center left, then moderate, then libertarian, then chud, now I'm a weird mix of things.
The weirdness/third worldism of MAGA (such as its Putin support) turned me off from that side, now I don't identify with any label

>>520507102
To be fair, the last leftist I talked to about fascism said that America is fascist because it doesn't have free healthcare

>>520507275
Well that's stupid of course.
But the internet right clearly leans towards literal fascism and AH worship
It's stupid because even a right wing extremist should like a man who started one of the deadliest wars in history, which directly led to the creation of Israel.
I'm convinced a lot of the AH fanboying comes from brown commies

>>520506732
>The white 19 year old from America shot the white 19 year old from Germany did it
These are levels of jewish obfuscation that are legitimately fascinating to me while still being irritating.

>>520504472 (OP)
Don't tell me what I need to do asshole. You barely know me.

>>520507275
and only a retarded socialist could think that

>>520507059
No you are brown
Whites over 50 are the main evangelical "muh god blesses those who bless Israel" boomer cuck cohort. They couldn't possibly be more philosemitic!
>Israel is a humanitarian thing
Bullshit so many things wrong with the US is downstream from Israel - electronic surveillance not the least. They are also a haven where sex criminals from the US flee to avoid consequences.
>muh Putin
is only there because you cock suckers were funding terrorism and other lawlessness on his western border, and running bio-warfare labs. And that has nothing to do with the original point.

KYS you kike loving faggot

>>520507479
Most whites are not Evangelicals, you would know this if you weren't a brown commie

>>520504472 (OP)
Libshits believe what they need to believe to not be ostracized. That's it.

>>520506306
Marxism is a more extreme form making up the body of communism, but they both believe in workers having some significant degree of influence in society. Socialism has been around in various forms before Marx and Engels wrote anything, and there were many contemporary socialists who disagreed with them and thought Marx was just a vindictive retard who wanted to turn the tables on the holders of capital, rather than solve the problems being created by the ongoing industrial revolution in a realistic way.

>>520507420
Feigning the opinion of a simple goy on behalf of jews like how Brad Pitt portrayed the goofy golem pro-jew character in that awful Tarantino movie is extreme levels of cucked/cringe behavior if you weren't feigning it and legitimately have that opinion.

>>520507717
apparently nobody actually understands pre-marxian socialism and why it spread like a wildfire

>>520507612
That's how not what I said pajeet
I said whites over 50 and particularly evangelicals make up the main (non Jewish) zionist population in the US and yes they are extremely philosemitic.
>reading comprehension what is that
ESL faggot

>>520507425
I'm a retarded socialist and I don't think that.

>>520507717
Marxism was basically Jewism where all the gentiles are enslaved for the jews.
If you study the level of debauched cruelty they would engage in torture of them in gulags, I think they felt at the height of their power in that mode. They simply realized that the Capitalism side of the jewish coin was more effective for global control, as opposed to just control of the Soviet Union. My pol folder has grown out of control so it would take too long for me to find my old infographs of the level of cruelty jews performed in these gulags, perhaps someone else can post it.

>>520507682
Very true.
Bur leftists are libshits

>>520507723
projection. I wasn't even thinking of that kike. (You) Probably watched a jewish moooooovie recently. Fuck you nigger

>>520504472 (OP)
You cannot talk sense into a Leftist
I showed a Leftist I know objective statistics showing that the current immigration policy will make White people a minority in Norway by 2100, and he just snapped, called me a racist and wanted to fight me
Leftists are body snatched, they're mindless husks programmed by TV and Media
They don't respond to facts, they don't respond to arguments, they are programmed to violently attack anything that challenges their globohomo goals

>>520507059
>Israel has little to do with the social decay of the US, Israel is mainly bad for humanitarian reasons.
I was with you until this. Israel has campaigned at the U.N. to ship more refugees into Europe, has funded NGOs that push for the same into Western societies, and they have actively undermined the U.S. throughout their existence in the number of spies they have had stealing from the U.S. government and even outright selling weapons systems to nations like China that the U.S. gave exclusively to them for their defense and forbade any sell or transfer of. They are definitely not a friend of the U.S. as much as some people and representatives want everyone to believe.

>>520508021
You don't think the main goal of the government is making people happy by providing them free services?

>>520504472 (OP)
> We need to talk to leftoids more.

No. Every Leftoid from the bottom feeder drug addict to the latte drinking college faggot, to the attention whoring thot, to the "muh respectability" suburban power mom are all completely irredeemable.

You either subvert them through memes and media or you avoid them as best you can.

You can't reason someone out of an ideology they didn't reason themselves into. They're simply the worst kinds of people in society.

>>520504472 (OP)
>Stop having left-right direction brain and learn to think like a free person and not a Boomer.
The only practical meaning this sensible idea can have, though, is creating third parties, which itself is a fraught endeavor.

>>520504704
>1990
>"you can't say death to Israel, stop being edgy"
>2000
>"You're a fucking monster"
>2010
>"even if said for fun it's WRONG"
>2012
>"Free palestine is a dog whistle for nazis"
>2016
>"Orange man bad but not gonna call him a kike yet"
>2020
>"MOST POPULAR JEWISH PUPPET EVER ELECTED!!!! I LOVE BIDEN!!!!"
>2023
>"death to Israel free palestine"
Words do not describe the level of hatred I have for these antifun fucking niggers.

>>520507682
If that's true, the logical opportunity would be to pounce and speak to them while the iron is hot (everyone hates Israel now and we are a relatively short time to prepare for Total Boomer Death by Father Time in the next couple decades.
Even the ones that are still alive will soon be so old will just be totally checked out.
When I see white people call jews as traitors it makes me laugh every time, especially if it's boomers calling a (((WHITE))) person a leftist.
It's like NEWSFLASH BOOMER! YOU are the traitor to whites. Jews are the ontological fuckin enemy.

>>520508303
All I said was I don't think lacking Healthcare makes a country fascist. That's absurd.

>>520508501
Socialists think the main goal of the government is making people happy by providing them free services, and they don't care how much power they have to give the government as long as they get something out of it

>>520508337
This. They're fickle creatures that get peer pressured into what to believe. They are to be ignored if demoralization isn't an option because they are often radicalized enough they've entered territory where being unreasonable got them where they are reasoning with them is speaking a foreign language- God forbid you get statistics involved or "Hey Grok" them to end the endless drivel coated with a veneer of philanthropy coming from them.

>>520507796
What was incorrect in my post?

>>520508651
I was agreeing with you, marx was one socialist

>>520508602
Okay. Nothing to do with what I said so I'm not engaging with it

>>520508733
I'm just saying you call yourself a socialist and yet the majority of socialist's main goal is welfare

>>520508066
People try downplaying the roles, cruelties, and ratio of jews in the Soviet Union, but they can't deny it. The British even had an internal problem during WW2 of how to convince the public the Soviets were allies, because of everything the press reported on about Soviet expansion and conduct in the years following WW1.

>>520508909
That's true. What's your point that's relevant to my comment though?

>>520509165
That socialism is fundamentally flawed and doesn't do what it says it does and is used as a fifth column by the people you call your sworn enemies

You think something that doesn't exist does. "Leftoids," are literal kikes living of the Federal tit. They spend billions of dollars preventing people from debating. They only support abortion/LGBT to the extent it provides benefit to themselves.

Engaging normal Americans sure.

>>520509352
Okay.
The subject was whether or not having healthcare makes a country fascist or not.

>>520509487
Right the socialists that the establishment call liberals

>>520506699
Good point, there is a difference for sure between what we need to be doing and what Charlie Kuck did for Israel.
>>520506048
>>520506889
>>520508337
I'm not saying we need to talk to the fatass feminist ogres with a BLM fist raising on the corner and shouting slogans. I'm DEFINITELY not suggesting talking to fags/troons/non-whites obviously.
If you're attractive enough you can DATE these women like that cute girl in Florida that the jews went after for her shouting at the IDF shirt jew on campus. Or the cute girl that triggered the FUCK out of boomers by voting for Mamdani and posting about it. You could talk to her on why it might not be such a great idea to let in these pajeets that are rapeshitters that destroy the environment. They KNOW on some level that there are real racial level traits in different races because they practice every day on how to avoid acknowledging them. Once you can do that with her, it's over for the rest of their brainwashing, in time.
These women especially in the anti-Israel movement are an opportunity, not an obstacle, as long as they are white of course.
Don't go in full 1488 GAS THE KIKES RACEWAR NOW mode.
There are probably a number of ways you can connect with them, it could start with being against Israel. Maybe you like fishing? You could connect on that level with environmentalism and redpilling her on all of the jewish practices to climate grift here and in Europe, diverting resources to them rather than actually helping anything.
There are so many other ways we can approach these problems rather than falling into one of their two jewish-controlled packaged idea camps.
Hell you could go camping with her and might actually get LAID out of the deal FFS (I do not promote state marriage)
Also you niggers need to GET TO THE FUCKING GYM
Memberships are cheap as fuck in some places and using Mike Mentzer/Dorian Yates style philosophy can build you a physique that will convince a woman into ANYTHING.

>>520509512
I can't understand you and I'm giving up trying. I feel like I'm just acting as a springboard for disconnected and incomplete thoughts

>>520508337
>>520508630
Spiritually they're all women, so if they can be peer pressured into being shitlibs, they can be peer pressured into anything given enough power. The issue is not them, but sources of their preferred propaganda. End that, and they'll just sit and wait for the next firmware update.

>>520509795
American establishment calls socialists liberals, why? It's a psyop. Your sworn enemies are called normal every day pedestrians who are full of laughter and love and life. Then out trundles a national socialist, what are they?

>>520507102
Recognizing the malignancy of leftist doesn't make someone a fascist, troon.

>>520508928
Very good point.
If you are NatSoc on the down low, take one of these young white libtard women protesting Israel and show them all of the proof from all of the massive infographic folders over the years back when they convinced YOU that National Socialism was the way.
>Show them the combination of how much they completely lied about the camps
>Compare the real conditions in every camp under German-occupation vs Soviet Jew-occupation. Even throw in the American camps for the Japanese, it will make it more interesting.
We have to be clever and exercise our own intellect if we're going to actually defeat these vile goblins. In Current Year + 10, we have to first win in the mind war. If even 1% of our smartest white men were as committed as the jews are in the propaganda war, we would BTFO him like Hitler was BTFOing the Soviet jews before convincing the UK and U.S. into being full Shabbos spiritual boomers.

>>520509518
>If you're attractive enough you can DATE these women like that cute girl in Florida that the jews went after for her shouting at the IDF shirt jew on campus. Or the cute girl that triggered the FUCK out of boomers by voting for Mamdani and posting about it. You could talk to her on why it might not be such a great idea to let in these pajeets that are rapeshitters that destroy the environment.

This is a dysgenic cope. Best case scenario, you convince someone pre-disposed to leftist thought to reproduce with you and create offspring who are pre-disposed to leftist thought. Either that or pre-disposed to mainstream media. Regardless, they'll lack critical thinking skills.

Worst case scenario, you get absolutely devastated financially, psychologically, emotionally or all of the above. Which side of the aisle endorses divorce rape, outspoken women, cuckoldry, trans kids, drug abuse or sexual degeneracy?

You think you're "Chad enough" to convert a retarded leftist woman through the power of your dick only to end up paying alimony to her and her new lesbian black girlfriend so they can get your son a sex change.

These aren't people, they're ZOG golem and their only purpose is to provide value. They're only useful to provide service and act as customers. Treat them as such.

After Kirk I understood that that's not nessecery. Leftism is a state of mind, you can't change them. I debated a lot of them and they don't know shit, it doesn't matter what your arguments are. They don't know why they want an industrial import of thirdiees, they don't know why they want higher taxes, they don't care that the German vaxx priest Lauterbach admitted on national TV that 30% of refugees have mental problems. You can throw the most convincing arguments and see the söy kick in in real time. Faggots, all of them.

As one great shitposter wrote: the only people capable of critical thinking are high testo men, not woman or söys, since everything gets passed through a filter (can I say it or will my tribe kick me out and I starve).

Only thing posssible is that the living condotions in the rich left white suburbs deteriorate that much that they can't ignore it anylonger, but at what point it will happen is unknown.

In Germany the 20 leftiefags aren't even the problem, it's the boomer CDU cucks.

>>520510785
Denounce Vishnu leaf.
I even addressed in my post that I do not promote state marriage because I don't want divorce rape to occur. If you avoid state marriage in a non common-law state you would only be on the hook for child support which you should be paying anyway if you give a fuck about your actual children. This way if you wind up with a bitch, she can't take you to the cleaners with alimony.
For all of you actually reading my posts and are interested, then consider this:
Would it be EASIER to convince a woman, especially a woman that is young and not fully ossified in their political beliefs, to go over to all of your other political beliefs if their driving force politically is posting BASED Black Rifle Coffee memes and LibsofTikTok slop vs the woman who's fundamental driving purpose is HATING ISRAEL.
These women are an opportunity, not an obstacle.

>>520511013
I have a Germoid faggot leftist that I get into arguments with from time to time. Once I was in the middle of a discussion about how American Christians are the most charitable people on the planet by a large margin, and that all other groups not only do not come close, but practically do not engage in charity at all by comparison. He chimes in about how he is far more moral than any Christian or American because of how he votes. He believes voting for the correct candidate is the most moral thing you can ever do. Eventually this segued into an argument about forcing medical practices on other people against their will (the vaxx) and of course that's moral, too! Even if the vax never went through all of it's clinical trials. That's okay because the authority figures (the scientists) said it was okay. No they cannot be wrong, they're authority figures. No amount of reasoning or facts offered up will change his mind. "You're not a scientist!" He'll say. That means you cannot be right on matters such as this. It does not matter if doctors or scientists have been wrong in the past. Until something bad comes of the vaccines, then no wrong doing occurred. Though something tells me that he'll justify any suffering caused by deferring to some 'greater good.'

It's because of people like him that I'm convinced that they actually do know better, but are simply using egotistical coping mechanisms because they don't have the moral foresight to do the right thing and can only reflect in hindsight.
There's no reason to debate or reason with them, or to offer them any mercy. A bullet is what people like that deserve, because they will cause death and destruction to all around them while absolving themselves of all guilt. Doubly so if some authority figure tells them they should kill their own friends, or family over some kind of political crime.

>>520511013
Best case scenario, even if you can't convince a leftoid woman that her hatred of Israel should extend to all Israelis and all jews, you can at least convince them that you are an intellectual who's not a reddit style pussy. This is the type of man these women are now writing that are impossible to find, and are too disgusted to resort to becoming a woman with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mar-a-Lago_face
>Show them the actual proof on what the camps were like in Hitler's Germany
>Show them the actual proof on what the camps were like in jew-ran USSR
>Show them the actual proof on what the camps were like in shabbos-ran USA for the Nips.
This will work on a lot of women if you are /fit/ like an MMA fighter.
The ideal woman actually IS lifting body, just actual natty lifting body not guys on full gear. Shit I'm probably gonna get on TRT myself just for testosterone for lifting and my mental health.

>>520512205
*The ideal woman's preference
All of you fat niggers need to get to the gym.

>>520511451
>I even addressed in my post that I do not promote state marriage because I don't want divorce rape to occur. If you avoid state marriage in a non common-law state you would only be on the hook for child support which you should be paying anyway if you give a fuck about your actual children. This way if you wind up with a bitch, she can't take you to the cleaners with alimony.

Or you simply avoid libtards like a rational human being.

>>520512128
These type of retardo hard leftists can sometimes be reasoned with, as long as they're white. You might have to clandestinely research to confirm that they aren't jews if your jewdar isn't at max level yet.

In that case I generally stay away from Vaxx talk unless I'm utilizing it to try and convince some spiritual boomer gen X something about the jews. I would ask them if they themselves would round YOU up into a death camp because you saw convincing research from a real doctor that the MRNA vaxxes are more harmful if Dr Fauci commanded them to do it.
Show them the stats reporting the mortality rates of young people getting health issues from the vaxx vs their chance of being harmed by covid. I'm not saying this WILL work but there are ideas still to try with some of them.

>>520507275
If it was fascist, it would have free healthcare.
It does have a cult of personality, dumb protectionism, and a "corporate hero" policy. Varoufakis is the closest to the truth with his "Technofeudalism."

>>520504472 (OP)
you have no left wing in Memerica, you only have neoliberals posing as liberals and neoliberals posing as christians.

>>520513191
>If it was fascist, it would have free healthcare.
Damn THAT is a good one-liner to drop on these people. You could even get away with that in a pretty normie environment.
Imagine some unappealing fat feminist ogre doing the whole Drumph.exe thing,
>WE. clap ARE. clap LIVING. clap IN. clap A. RACIST. clap FASCIST. clap DICTATORSHIP!!
just drop like,
>"Shoot if we were living in a fascist dictatorship I would probably have some universal healthcare!"
See which other person laughs, now you know who's based or who has potential. Maybe you wind up coming across another dude who is secretly fully based and you get an ACTUAL IRL friend out of it.
You just gave me a nice gem there that I've never actually thought to use.

Every IRL political conversation I have:
>they make a statement
>I make a claim/disagree with their statement, explain why
>they agree with me
>conversation ends
It's so boring, I have approached even the coloured hair uni students, I have volunteered at elections and spoken to political opponents and I never get any fiery debate. I want somebody to stand their ground and challenge me but they all fold immediately and make it clear that despite the noise, their beliefs are only surface level.

>>520513424
Regan brought neo-liberalism into mainstream politics. Its different from the "positive freedom" social liberals of "the left"
Neo-liberalism is rehashed classical liberalism

>>520513160
>would ask them if they themselves would round YOU up into a death camp because you saw convincing research from a real doctor that the MRNA vaxxes are more harmful if Dr Fauci commanded them to do it.

These people are not capable of understanding hypothetical, anon.

>>520513547
>their beliefs are only surface level.
If that's true then keep going if it is so effortless for you. They may remember some of what you said about this shit years later when they've become victim of their bullshit ideology.

>>520504472 (OP)
The thing that really strikes me about Legend of the Galactic Heroes is how sincere and earnest the major players are. They have well-reasoned convictions, they want to win, they understand the stakes. Even the decadent retards of the pre-Reinhard empire and the useless beaurocrats of the free planets alliance take their roles seriously.

Contrast that with our reality where everyone, even politicians, are teambrained simpletons whose main motivation is the quick dopamine rush of social media (you)s.

>>520504472 (OP)
You think pic related is at all interested in discourse? Talk is not what leftoids want, not when they have cultures to subvert and nations to destroy.

>>520512128
Pretty much the same experience. They "one up" you every time or straight up ignore the facts.

There was a popular book this year called "Shitbürgertum", which was going into this subject. The gist is that they want to be seen as virtuous and morally superior and show it to everybody. Also, you now can scold other people for driving the wrong car, eating too much meat or flying too much. It's basically cartman who becomes woke as to mob other people without consequences.

All lefties are "queers for palestine" in my eyes - insane and championing for their own destruction.

>>520512205
I'm from the east and most chicks here are "nazi" or at least have not too much aggressive leftism. Some think they are left but usually woman aren't firm enough to not be swayed. But some are far gone indeed

>>520509879
Only by shattering the false dichotomy of the left right system can the power be restored to the people. There is no political party that speaks to the working class. It's just a line of goyim getting money shots from aipac until there's nothing left. Oy vey why is the economy so shit, gee Billy I don't know, maybe don't have greedy reckless money magicians control everything?

>>520513840
Unironically that worked on me when I was one of them.
Plant seeds. Sometimes they beer fruit

>>520513825
>These people are not capable of understanding hypothetical, anon.
Yes they can, this isn't niggers we're talking about.
I mean, if this is someone PARTICULARLY fucked in the head and cooked with this shit, then I agree, move on talking to someone else, don't waste your time.
But take it from me, I lived as an adult for years being friends with JEWS I was even turned around. I wasn't even aware of their bullshit until I was like late 20s, and I have been actually intelligence tested in elementary school as 99th percentile of IQ. They didn't give me the score but told my parents the percentile and even I couldn't figure this shit out as an adult initially. I only naturally redpilled myself about niggers and it took 8pol to CONVINCE me on the jews initially. Today obviously I would have got it with how blatant they are but that was a different time and I hadn't yet began looking into politics at all yet.

>>520513547
Based Debate Team veteran

>>520504472 (OP)
Leftists want everyone to be able to afford housing, food, and don’t want pointless wars. Real conservatives want to be able to afford housing, food, and to avoid pointless wars. Both believe in workers getting paid what they’re worth. It’s the pedophilic elite who are the enemy.

>>520514406
Based and correct. Except you forgot to name the pedophile elite as jews

>>520514406
>Leftists want everyone to be able to afford housing, food, and don’t want pointless wars. Real conservatives want to be able to afford housing, food, and to avoid pointless wars. Both believe in workers getting paid what they’re worth. It’s the pedophilic elite who are the enemy.
If you believe that is true, then you should focus on identifying with those things with the other side first, then move on to things they're still in the dark about, namely the JQ but you might have to start with something else like the NQ or the jeetQ.

>>520504472 (OP)
We know what we agree on. Look at the assassination of CEOs. That’s a net benefit for most of society regardless of your political position.

>>520514567
Not all of them are Jews, Clinton and Trump aren’t Jews. There are a ton of Jews at that level of wealth, but everyone at that level of wealth has to be purged regardless of race or religion.

>>520514623
If you purge the CEOs, shareholders, politicians, and lobbyists, you already solve 90% of the corruption in this nation right there. The need to bring race into everything on the right is the same as the need to bring fag shit into everything on the left. It’s unnecessary and ultimately harmful to actually changing anything.

>>520514929
Race is the only thing that matters, civnat

>>520514972
So living in a society where there is only white people, but you are a slave to the wealthy who is forced to work 100 hour weeks is preferable to you?

>>520514406
So when the elites are gone, the rabid leftists will suddenly no longer want white men to suffer? The rabid leftists will suddenly no longer want to take everything white men work for? The niggers and spics will suddenly no longer want to continue killing white men and raping white women en masse?

Cool glad to know.

>>520514751
the former WASP elite the jews managed to hoodwink over the years into replacing them weren't at the level of
>YOU WILL BREED WITH MONKEYS GOY
level of destruction vs the policies of the NeoCon Shabbos goys begging for jew scrotum.
I don't think actually racially white billionaires need to be purged of their position entirely, they would just find themselves unable to be that grotesquely wealthy under a NatSoc system.

>>520515073
Why are you posing this as an either/or situation? We can bring down the elites while also remembering leftists and niggers are our enemy too.

>>520514406
>>520514567
Take your asses back to preddit.

Lefties want that, but the "worker" in their equation is whoever stepped foot on your soil. HIV-Jamal who arrived five minutes ago should have the same rights and benefits as the 80 year old granny who worked 40 years. And you can't stop billions of HIV-Jamals from entering the system (that would be raycis) - that's equality from the left

>>520515093
You can’t look at the behavior of the white elite and think it any different from the Jewish elite. They all want you subjugated.

>>520515204
Good luck with that. You need numbers to beat the elite.

>>520515229
Many leftists are anti immigration and believe immigration should only happen when the population of a country is already prospering. Even then, the priority is to make it so they don’t feel the need to immigrate in the first place.

>>520505792
The left is almost entirely made up of the deformed/deranged/defective/demonic, nowadays
They'll all have to go
Though, I wouldn't stop them from slaughtering jews

>>520515464
False, blue- and trannypilled, also cringe and low IQ.

How many are like this? 0,025%?

>>520515267
I'm not opposed to working with other races all together specifically as Step 1 - remove all elites from power in order to remove all the jews from power. Specifically because it will be far easier to convince most of whites and even some of the non-whites that every race into their own nation solves virtually all problems.
Equating white elite behavior to jewish elite behavior though is wrong. Reading about the jewish behavior in the early Soviet Union in the gulags you really see they are on a whole other level of EVIL vs the APATHY and CYNICISM of white elites.
Now slap my nuts and denounce the Talmud if you please.

>>520515464
>many leftists
Real leftists don’t exist irl. The only place I know of where they are a majority is r/stupidpol. Even there, that is a somewhat controversial view. Doesn’t matter what your theory book says, or the way you think things should be, being a wokie is a genuine cornerstone of “real” leftist thought now.

>>520504472 (OP)
One step at a time, I like where your head is at though.
Seeing that what is ultimately the best set of ideas is torn apart and scattered along both sides and having normies having great difficulty picking the good ideas from among the arranged sides is generally too much effort for them so they just choose between one of two sides.
Never forget that water flows to the lowest bedrock

>>520515791
Talmud is retarded. So are billionaire pedophiles.

>>520515840
I avoid reddit like the plague, do they still ban you for saying anything viewed as remotely RAYSSISSSS even if you follow all of the rules of whatever subreddit?
Does that 'Change my View' subreddit have a rule that you can't post anything racial even if it's presented as a legitimate desire to be convinced out of the racisms or whatever?
Because I'll make an account and post there if it ever gets to where it's possible.
I'd make a post like,
>CMV: Importing limitless 3rd world so-called "refugees" that are not even actual refugees is equivalent Saruman bringing in Orcs and Goblins into The Shire, against the will of its inhabitants.
By the way, for any of you that are earnest in your beliefs of NO CONTACT with the left but still want to help by possibly influencing normies with memes, I recommend bringing back orcposting aka shireposting.

>>520515687
Do you think leftists are running around saying “we need a ton of people in this country right now”? No. That’s billionaires and liberal propaganda. It’s culture war meant to divide the poor. Most people would be fine with limiting immigration if it meant Blackrock got dissolved and housing became affordable.

>>520516383
Yes? They come here and say their cities are better when they're brown

>>520516809
They being the immigrants or the leftists? Because most of the immigrants are capitalists.

>>520515092
He didn't respond because he knows they will continue their bastard crusade. "Da uhleets" is a dogwhistle to try and get consevatives to drop their morals and accept gay nigger trannies in exchange for stopping these mythical "uhleets."
These lefties manage to topple the current boogeyman elites, and they become the new elites and force you to accept their reality at gunpoint. They have no good faith.

>>520516277
The whole Epstein thing blowing up was like a gift from God in terms of shocking a lot of white women into questioning their spiritual boomer style blind MAGA support.
Even if it's the first chink in their armor, they will remember it when his dramatic optics policies on deportations were less effective on the actual numbers, or especially when jews are hard pushing later for their sons to die in Iran.

>>520516935
Most immigrants are socialists like the leftists which is why they're in the same party

>>520505595
I've had success redpilling leftists with Ted Kaczynski. You basically have to explain to them how leftism isn't as much of a political ideology as it is an inferiority complex. Even if they push back they usually concede somewhat. That whole manifesto is hard hitting.

>>520517078
Come on man. You think all the Indians coming over are socialists? Literally all of them want to be the next Elon musk and they want to treat the white people like the untouchables of their own nation. Be realistic.

>>520517261
Good advice. I will try this and report back if success.

>>520506124
Don't forget that literally no other country wanted to take jewish refugees. Hitler talked about this in speeches, how he was criticized by other countries for speaking out against the jews and wanting to root them out of germany, but noted none of those countries wanted the jews in their country either.

>>520516383
>but but it's just blackrock propaganda
Lol. Lmao even

>>520517404
Socialism is a philosophy not an economic system. Market socialism is the only socialism that works

>>520517261
Any leftist that knows anything would just tell you that the tribal setting that humanity originated in was communist in nature.

>>520517600
Objectively yes. They trick you into thinking deporting immigrants will make housing cheaper when most the housing is owned by Blackrock.
>>520517605
Engage with the argument, not the semantics. Semantics is for faggots.

>>520517421
also all of you niggers should read Industrial Society and Its Future
You can find a pdf on it free with a quick search.
It's only less than like 60 pages.

>>520517607
How do you know what a lefties would say so precisely?
Why do you defending lefties?

You lost, trump won, YWNBAW

>>520517607
It's conflated with national socialism, and that setting was ethnically homogenous.

>>520517704
Youre semantically and factually wrong, most brown people only know socialism. They can't even comprehend liberalism

>>520507102
>IF I CALL YOU A FASCIST THAT MEANS YOU'RE A FASCIST AND MY LEFTIST GODS TOLD ME I CAN KILL YOU
you look like this

>>520515073
That situation is salvagable. A destroyed demography is not.

>>520517819
Really? Most brown people? And I’m supposed to take you for your word when you say these are real socialist countries and not CIA puppet states used to create poverty and force emigration towards the USA in order to use these people for cheap labor?

>>520517901
It actually is salvageable considering generic engineering will be around king before the white race is anywhere near danger at all.

>>520517941
Wouldn't brown people's countries being CIA puppet state reinforce the claim that they're all socialists?

>>520517704
>OUR VEY THE DOLLARINOS!
It's not about the money fag. How new are you?

>>520518024
It’s about power and money is a form of power.

>>520517995
Are you arguing that the CIA as an institution is socialist? That’s a nonsense position. The CIA explicitly works primarily to back the interests of the financial elite.

>>520517990
It's not. Simping for browns is simping for the power base that allows the billionaires and all of thr abuses you hate.

The browns are here to keep you from organizing. The browns are here to keep you from building wealth. The browns are here to keep you from dislodging the elite. The only way to hurt them is to remove the browns first.

>>520518201
Who said I’m simping for anyone. They’re here for cheap labor. You don’t need a brain to see that. I want them to be able to go home to their home countries where we lift the economic sanctions so that they can live their without feeling the need to come here. It’s the simplest solution to the problem. Lift all the sanctions on the south and put all the sanctions on Israel.

>>520518084
No? It's about the niggerification of the northern countries by brownoid slum dwellers

Back to preddit you go. Typical low IQ leftie who is "smart"

>>520515073
You can recover from or fix that issue.

>>520518393
Can you when technology can just drone strike all dissenters?

>>520518146
No I'm saying the CIA sticks it's nose in socialist's business because it deems them inferior and retarded.

>>520518389
If that were the case they’d never have allowed deportation in the first place. Clearly it’s just another set of idpol nonsense used to propagandize poor people into hating eachother. It clearly worked on you.

>>520515073
Yes. Money can easily be confiscated and laws can be put in place to control wealth, the government is especially good at it. It's much more complicated to do the same with genetics.

>>520518357
You'll still have to pull the latched parasites out. The simplest solution is shooting the invading hordes. Cheaper too.

>>520518357
>simple solution to the problem
>just make the third world like the first world
The leftie delusion is insane. Are you a (biological) woman by chance?

>>520518490
No, it deems them a threat to global American dominance because being independent from America weakens America. This is kindergarten stuff. In simpler terms
>other country works for you
You strong
>other country becomes independent
>you weaker

>>520504472 (OP)
you're correct, OP.
we need to get out of our echo chamber.
the only people who disagree here are jews and trolls

>>520518488
And where is that happening right now?
Speculatice scifi bullshit isn't reality. And frankly, it's insane to suggest this would only happen in a White state for whatever reason.

You're a nut. Get help

>>520504472 (OP)
tried red pilling my boomer.
they told me the news is too depressing so they don't watch it anymore.
Even though black neighbors irs moved in across the street there.
>put their head in the Sand
not sure what to do about that

>>520518721
Would you not think a bunch of illiterate 80 IQ retards shooting at you because you have a sewing machine is pretty retarded?

>>520518584
>they’d never have allowed deportation
Low IQ, probably a woman

>>520518851
Anon, genetic engineering is happening right now. They already did it in China. The only thing stopping it is legislation. That’s right now. It isn’t science fiction.

>>520519009
I think it’s ridiculous that you’re defending the cia and dodging the point.

>>520504472 (OP)
I want to help white people, without predominantly helping black people, spics, and illegals.
>I need to help you, without helping him
>picrel

How about no? What the fuck is wrong with you. I'm a leftist in every meaningful sense and even I want nothing to do with the American "leftists". This isn't gonna work out as well as you think it will.

>>520518201
Which do you think is more achievable,
>Engage white people in a Civil War against 100 million+ brown people WHILE the government is run completely by Jews
>Engage people in an ideological war of the mind where we even work with these forbidden brownoids to BTFO the jewish leadership first. Then work out a deal with said brownoids that involves them going back to their countries.
I'm not above even financially incentivizing them to do it with at least minimum compensation for the travel cost for them to go back. I'd be willing to pay nigs $100k a head if it means a one-way trip to Nigeria or whatever deal we could make with one of those African countries.

>>520519020
Your country is even more cucked by Israel than the USA.

>>520519035
Your civnat political stance is based on the idea thy kikes are going to genetically engineer Jeets and niggers into Whites for some reason. You're insane

>>520519118
We could do option 1, we have home team advantage.
Option 2 is obviously more realistic though.

>>520519082
If the problem with the CIA is they dunk on retarded socialists then what's so bad about them? If the US uses neocolonialism and the enemies of this are head up ass socialists then who is really at fault? The fact that the US supposedly has the whole world under its thumb but nobody can actually critique the system is odd

>>520519140
Well thats obviously false
You're a low-IQ woman, lol!

>>520519171
Where did I say that. Jeers will clearly engineer themselves into being white because they hate themselves. Every other race most likely won’t outside of blue eyes and blonde hair.

>>520519408
My point is that the cia orchestrated the immigrant crisis retard. That was the entire point. They’re bad because they produce poverty in other countries in order to produce cheap labor here, and as a result, making American citizens suffer. It’s really not that complicated. And you still say “based CIA”

>>520519412
You can’t even legally criticize Israel in Germany.

>>520519118
The problem is 2 won't work because the same problem people in 1 will say " we'll just give you more of white people's money!"

So, yes, 1 is unfortunately more feasible.

>>520519562
What if these countries are so inherently unstable because their people are fucking stupid

>>520519118
Honestly? Option 1, and this is also assuming Russia, China, and the rest of the world rushing in to save the jews here, because if nukes are confirmed real then anons in military can samson the invading forces like the jews always wanted to do and keep them at bay while white america cleans itself up

>>520519603
Of course you can lol. Stop embarrassing yourself.

Imagine being this retarded and making statements. Like why?

>>520519302
It's more realistic because it's too difficult to trickle in white guys who have had enough and do some sort of Christchurch and would put the normie white population more against it rather than opening the floodgates to it or something.
If I could snap my fingers and every last white male on earth would activate into Waffen-SS Obersturmbannführe Otto Skorzeny elite Caucasian commandos on meth I would do it in a second. Alas we don't have that option.
I'll never say never with how much people are getting pissed at niggers slaughtering wypipo but they would have to do something absolutely HEINOUS to trigger whites to jump all at the same time like a prison gang, and I'm obviously unwilling to engage in false-flag style jewish tactics to try and fake an atrocity like that in their name.

>>520519968
So your government hasn’t conflated antizionism with antisemitism and there aren’t hate speech laws? Okay.

>>520507682
then why not be conservative & welcomed there?
There's more to it.
I'm not sure what it is.
Maybe, they are afraid if being attacked by liberals -- a atockholm syndrome of sorts. Cryptoliberals.
They are afraid if being shot by their Jewish and Nigger and Tranny sodomite psychos.

>>520519668
We should test it by lifting economic sanctions and letting them do their own thing.

>>520520022
Checked...didn't have to fuck him so hard man. It's bad enough they are zogged 2 the max but rubbing it in. I'm just saying we are headed there and it's not far off.

>>520520094
So they can make more Venezuelas?

>>520519984
You don't have to worry about that. The dismal state of the economy and impending crash will take care of that.

>>520519984
>HEINOUS
To make a false flag at that required level for niggers requires an intelligence that they simply don't have, and easy to sniff out that it's a false flag. It be what it be

>>520520223
Sure? Venezuela doesn’t even do anything
>but the drugs
That’s the CIA. If you want to stop drugs in America, you dissolve the CIA.

>>520520326
You mean besides flood all the countries around it with 80 IQ retards because their economy collapsed

>>520505999
>Jews aren't the problem

>>520520441
Were white people without sin before the first Jew crawled into Italy?

>>520520399
Again, sanctions. Are you capable of retaining more than 3 facts in your brain at a single time?

>>520520497
So Venezuela collapsed because of the US and not because they're retarded

>>520520277
A good point for most cases. I agree generally.
The kind of scenario I'm thinking of is if some kang group like this were to, heaven forbid, do some sort of mass shooting with high numbers that a lot of HD video footage comes out like the Iryna Zarutska thing X 10,000 or some such but probably incapable of doing it on that level, I agree.

Leftoids are made for biggest blackest dick, basically mine. They beg and call me all night long. Disgusting perverts. Tyrone.

>>520520531
Yes. You clearly don’t understand the effect economic sanctions can have on a nation.

>>520520591
BBC is a conservative fetish. Leftists are either into dominatrix shit or they’re fatfags. Libertarians are pedophiles and liberals like inflation and the other cartoon fetishes.

>>520520022
>>520520133
You can't say holocaust isnt real. Other than that you can't insult (any) people it counts as a misdemeanour.

You said you can't criticise Israel which is obv false (see the demonstrations). As false as all your statements and your low IQ takes. Please refrain from posting and just read for the next years, or at least transmaxx

>>520520626
So cuba being a worthless shithole has nothing to do with their only export in the 20th century being sugar

>>520520701
Patriot I get at least 22 phone calls a night wanting me to fuck them. Liberal white women are the worse. Once they see my monster dick they will never let go. They all want pictures and give great tips. And when they suck me off they will choak and not say a word. Disgusting subhumans.

>>520520720
Economic sanctions are very powerful. Surprising right. It’s almost like not having access to the same levels of trade is bad for your economy.

>>520504472 (OP)
>we
>posts drivel
>posts drivel image
I do not owe you my attention.

>>520520826
Oh, with women it’s 100% different. I’m talking about the porn men consume. I don’t respect the fetishes of women.

>>520520826
Denounce the Talmud and Vishnu if you please.

>>520504472 (OP)
Yet humans will always seek conflict, that is why the kike strategy of left vs right continues working even if they are all run by the same jew.
It is not something that can be fixed with logical explanations, and americans sure won't listen.
The only fruitful solution for america at this point is revolt against the government and the dismantling of the AIPAC. They are clearly not working for the american people anymore, they serve no purpose other than political show, they waste tax money for foreign nations, as such they have no right to any official seat in the nation.
Yet this unity against a fully corrupt political class is impossible, because americans love the show more than they love each other.

>>520520938
You're literally a woman stop the larp

>>520520856
So what happened to cuba before the sanctions that prevented it from producing anything but sugar

>>520520958
So fucking true. People love the show more than they love each other. The show is all most have left.

>>520520558
Yeah, I think that's what it would take too

>>520504959
I'm a bit confused by your comment; could you clarify what you mean by "actual policies" for the left? Are you referring to specific issues like healthcare or infrastructure, or is there a different standard you're using? Also, when you mention socialism opposing liberalism, are you thinking of historical contexts or something more current?

>>520521014
Probably the fact that the country was only made up of plantations that developed cane sugar until the slaveholders were exiled. Slavery isn’t very good at innovating.

>>520520701
>liberals like inflation
I guess I'm still a liberal at heart then.

>>520521136
>Agriculture bad
Oh okay

>>520521007
Literally have a larger and whiter dick than you.

>>520521215
The slave state produced what slave states produce. That’s just how it is.

>>520520942
look I make a good living fucking perverted Democrats and many are Jews. Jews always give great tips and beg for more. And you know what is odd they all want you to fuck them in the ass and make a video for their men. Never could figure that out. Tyrone

>>520520094
First, lets deport them, and shoot anyone who comes here illegally.

>>520521312
Slaves states are highly productive only socialists claim they aren't

>>520521332
Would you happened to be named Marcel?
Nevermind, he would have surely denounced the Talmud AND Vishnu if it was Marcel.

>>520521461
If that were true they'd still be around

>>520521247
>muh dick
She did the meme

Anyone still on the left is the enemy.

Get that through your head already.

>>520521539
>If that were true they'd still be around
Uhh, I've got some bad news for you.

>>520521539
The only reason slavery isn't around anymore is because making it a soapbox to kvetch about was politically easy

>>520521532
Patriot my name is Tyrone and I fuck Democrat perverts. The pay is good and I could care less what they believe in. Biggest Black dick is best dick is what they tell me. Tyrone

>>520521571
Do you think women know what legend of the galactic heroes even is?

>>520504472 (OP)
>We

>>520521571
Nah I can tell that guy's a male.
Not 100% convinced on him being white but he for sure in the >130 IQ territory at least. My money's on white though if gun to my head.

>>520506331
Does anybody think Europe can fight Russia?
They're going to go for it sooner than later, I think they will do it soon to shore up Ukraine.

>>520521395
Many would go home to their families willingly if the sanctions were lifted. Why do you think they work here? Because a dollar here is worth a hundred back home.

>>520504472 (OP)
doesnt fit well with me, when youre just a normal human not very left or right leaning they want to murder you for not wanting to kiss nigger feet and all the other crap.

i dont like being around scientologists that are insane.

>>520506503
Yes and the 100 years went a little like this:
> Russia goes communist
Millions die
> China goes communist
Millions die
> Cambodia goes communist
Millions die
> Others go communist
Rampant poverty and extremely low quality of life emerges.

Yes thank you for pointing out that the last 100 years of attempted communism has been an absolute disaster for the human race.

With these facts in mind, the average person is now aware that all leftists really want to do is dominate, control, and murder millions of people.

>>520521734
My iq is around 130 but that’s only because I’m autistic when it comes to pattern recognition and that’s all that iq tests are.

>>520520482
>Were white people without sin
No, far from it, yet the jews had no right to infect european society with their wickedness, to drag it down. Two wrongs don't make a right.
A cancer must be removed, regardless if the one afflicted by it is not a saint.

>>520521704
>muh manly marvel slop
jejejejej
Fuck you're retarded

>>520504472 (OP)
the right and left all have become maniacal tyrants and this just doesnt fit well with me. i am my own man, i dont need to approve of any of your fucken shit.

youre not the center of being in the universe you stupid fucking mongos. atually youre all pretty fucking retarded.

>>520521461
I was asked “why did Cuba only produce sugarcane” and I gave an answer. Why is that controversial? It was a slave state. It produced sugarcane. That’s what slave states do.

The left right dichotomy exists because midwits ascribe themselves to it. It's the playing field we are on, so we need to use it.
The reality is that we will continue to slide into a leftist authoritarian regime. The overton window will continue to shift left and the conservacuck right will keep dying on hills. Fascism is the only answer, because technocratic authoritarianism is inevitable. You yourself are even admitting it OP.
Just give the left healthcare, just make healthcare dependent on taxes, just slowly slide into socialism until all our wealth is taxed and everyone works for the government.

If we do not embrace white ethnonationalist fascism, we will all be members of the globalist communist bloc.
Here come the "hurr left right brain communism and fascism are same horseshoes and shit man" crowd, not understanding the transcendence of left right brain is realising we must use the dichotomy to lead midwits.

>>520521687
By you refusing to denounce them, both the talmud AND vishnu, you are creating a future series of screencaps I am going to make of this conversation to further prove you people are willing to resort to this level of petty false-flagging. If you are some swinging dick mandingo or whatever you are posing as you wouldn't give a FUCK top fucking LEL

>>520521932
>No argument
You’re the retard. Reactionary and volatile. Emotionally unstable. Very feminine behaviors.

>>520521777
And would lifting sanctions immediately make their home currencies equivalent to the USD? Would it make local wages comparable to american wages? Would it make local social services comparable to the USA's?

I don't disagree with making their homes better. They must be removed, and forcibly discouraged from coming first.

>>520521734
>130 IQ
Kek. No you're both low IQ retards.

>>520522003
>the only options are to be a slave in an ethnostate or be a slave in a corrupt communist nation.
Why not just build a system where we kill the richest/most powerful person in the world at the need of every week?

No such thing as leftists. Just assholes without principles trying to fit in.

>>520522126
Immediately, no. But it’s a path to recovery. It’s a solution that works itself out. Maintaining the sanctions just exasperates the issue, but the thing is that the elite and the cia don’t see this as an issue. This is the point.

>>520522208
How is “housing should be affordable” not a principle?

>>520522141
Look i came from the ancap / libertarian mindset. Power will always find a way to solidify. It's only going to get worse from here, because technology will make holding power easier. I'd love to embrace a neo fuedal city state system, but it won't last long. Until the biggest city state's form nations and we're back to square one with no control over who takes power.

>>520521851
>44 posts by this ID
damn nigga you are posting more than me in my own thread.
I wonder if I posted more words though I'm not sure.
Anyway cheers, the purpose of this thread was to recruit people like you to defect some of your time away from this place and more on the twitta and even bluesky to redpill more people on the jews.

>>520522038
Argument? No argument I'm just trolling retards.

You're implied that you're not a woman because you know some "galaxy furry porn" or whatever, which is funny

>>520522225
>a path to recovery
Preventative maintenance, not recovery. Deeply embedded parasites will not voluntarily remove themselves before the host dies. Younger, less established foreigners may decide to become economic migrants anyway, even if home isn't the dumpster fire it currently is. The solution is removal and lethal protection of our borders, then we can lift sanctions, deal?

>>520521966
Cuba's over reliance on sugar was thanks to the US, which through trade had by the 1940's boosted the Cuban economy above the rest of latin America. Can you guess that happened after the socialists took over? I'll give you a hint. They needed welfare for the Soviets to exist. Like North Korea

>>520522253
This isn't a principle. This is like saying "People should be able to live" or "people should have water to drink. This is some obvious bullshit pathetic attempts at appearing moral and caring from sociopaths. Literally everyone thinks housing should be affordable except rich psychopaths. This has nothing to do with political opinions. You are
exactly the kind of people i am refering to. Pretending that people against immigration think that housing shouldn't be affordable. You are an asshole AND a moron. Lecturing people with the most basic things that everyone already knows and agrees with.

>>520522407
I took your argument as seriously as it deserved. What’s the issue? Why the anger?

>>520522449
We’ve been over this. Economic sanctions happened. Please learn to be capable of retaining information. This conversation is going in circles because people here have the memory of goldfish.

>>520522483
Give an example of a principle.

I have tried talking to them a lot in the past year and it is just an exercise in not getting banned as they slowly try to groom white men in front of me to cut off their genitals. The level of hatred they have for white people is insane these days.

>>520522253
That is a wish and a whine.

>>520522442
A great solution would be to prosecute the people employing illegal labor. Then they wouldn’t be able to find work and leave on their own.

>>520522551
>Seize us funded sugar production
>Us sugar production dies
>Socialists: now buy our socialist sugar!
Lol

>>520522702
And then a bunch of illegal immigrants move to america from cuba after the sanctions. Curious.

>>520522487
Which argument? As I said your shit is all retarded and made up. I don't argue I'm telling

>see I'm not a woman, I even know this manly galaxy marvel slop
Jej

>>520522783
So socialists can't even handle socialism?

>>520522814
you keep behaving like a woman. Angry and irrational.

I am genuinely so fucking tired of all this boomer trauma from the Cold War that makes "sharing" a dirty word. Cops and firefighters are socialism, public roads and public schools are socialism, a standing national army is socialism. I swear some of you retards would spaz out if you ever got invited to a party where the expectation was to pitch for booze instead of it being entirely BYOB.

>>520522660
Indeed. Fraudsters of social services must also be arrested. Also, they must be deported and our borders must be protected with lethal force. That last part is the most important part.

>>520522845
>people leave a country that just became socialist for a capitalist nation”
>”these people are socialist”
You’re a joke.

>>520522929
The former is the most important part actually because it destroys the incentive of moving here. If you want to stop something, removing the incentive is far more effective than placing a barrier. It’s really that simple.

>>520522783
Sounds like we should have shot them when they attempted to cross.

>>520522586
I won't give a principle because you re the one forcing the conversation on this, political opinions are derived from principles not principles themselves. In terms of political opinion, people sohuld have houses is sociopathic shit period. Now i dont really want to feed a degenerate with inactive brain parts like you so you ll have to seek the answer on your own.

>>520522660
I mean it's so fully obvious that the political establishment wants them here as slave labor.
If they actually ever wanted the quickest way possible to get rid of a lot of them without even having to use force would be to just a series of combined measures making a lot more difficult like not being able to get a bank account and other means combined.
And of course as you say, prosecuting the people that employ them would be a lot cheaper than flashy deportation forces. If they ever actually tried to do this though under current paradigm, day 1 would be in headlines
>TRUMP ARRESTS JEWISH RABBI ACTIVE IN THE COMMUNITY BEING HELD IN NAZI FEMA CAMPS

>>520522953
Weren't a lot of them drug dealers? Mostly just economic opportunists. The same kind of useful idiots that would support revolutionary socialism if they got some gibs out of it

>>520523087
Which is why it won’t happen and nothing will change until the wealthy are purged from this world. Because they all want immigrants here.

>>520522920
sharing from the mouth of libs is codeword for gneocide whites and take their money to give it to people who dont pay taxesstab you and rape your daughters no thanks. sharing in the ethnostate is alright.

>>520522814
slandering LOTGH as marvel slop should be punished by flogging

>>520523108
Drug dealers and slave owners. People who were going to be killed by the socialists.

>>520504472 (OP)
>>520504472 (OP)
>>520504472 (OP)
Daily reminder that all the "no tail" and furfag posts are made by VPN niggers of a troon squad from iDrama and Valent Projects cuckademics to normalize degeneracy across the board.
Same trannies who shill for Jewkraine and make the /uhg/ threads btw.
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/518123762/#518129824
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/518281658/#518287969
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/518256371/#518256990

>>520523031
Incorrect. It is important to remove incentives, however, the most important part is to make the process of coming such a risk it is not a good idea.

Currently people spend loads of money, experience discomfort, and are even sex trafficked to get here. If what awaited them was a bullet and a shallow grave they wouldn't try.

This is also the cheapest, most humane, and politically popular solution. There is zero reason to not implement it first.

>>520523082
You brought up principles. It’s up to you to define a principle through example. If you don’t than it’s clear that your argument is void.

>>520523243
So trashcan people. Wasn't the Cuban government emptying its prisons into Miami

Whatever happens politically in the world, /pol/ should have no part in it. Internet clowns are currently running the asylum and you think what's in store for us is anything other than outright destruction.
There were alternatives to water-wars and techno-feudalism, but it's too late now. Those of you with children will have them stripped from you to be thiel's blood bags and trump's prostitutes. Fighting age men will be sent to kill fellow citizens, or to foreign forever-wars if they aren't deemed fit for the domestic killing, those who refuse both will be executed and fed to the cannibal shareholder cabals. Some of you will consider this a utopia and for your brief remaining time will never grasp any other interpretation, and then less than a generation later there will no longer be a human race. The last remaining trillionaires in their New Zealand bunkers will quietly perish as their robot servants continue dusting their corpses until the batteries run out. It will all be just like in my Japanese Animes like Texhnolyze. Life imitates art, 4chan's influence on the world will have come full circle.

>>520522362
The game ends the moment people can buy and sell food with monero

>>520523257
Thank you for the PSA, but my thread is also an important one. So if you would like to convince me your motivation is pure, denounce the talmud AND vishnu if you please.

>>520523285
See it like this. There is a rat and there is a piece of cheese. The rat wants the cheese. It will go for the cheese. If you put a maze in the way of the cheese, it will be harder for the rat to get to the cheese, but it will still try. However, if you remove the cheese entirely, the rat has no reason to pursue the cheese. Getting rid of the people employing illegals is the cheese. The border is the maze. Getting rid of the employers is the effective measure.

>>520523343
If by emptying you mean “criminals ram away from the country in order to not die and the CIA welcomed them as a form of propoganda against Cuba” then yes.

>>520523480
Shooting the rats is also an effective way to remove the cheese. It is also easier and cheaper. Clearly, the solution is to shoot the rats.

>>520523563
Nah. The Cubans, like other latam shitholes, dump their prison populations into other countries since illegal immigration is a way of life there

>>520523371
Good point.
Taking down their ZOGGED economic system is something so race-neutral that you could even pitch this type of thing to total normies.

>>520523607
Shooting the rats doesn’t remove the cheese you absolute moron. The cheese is still there.

>>520523299
>>520523299
It won't be to people who will read the former posts and arn"'t psychopaths like you. i've been more than clear.

>>520523356
/pol/ is over. The mediashilling brought all the low IQs and incels to the site, it's absolute shit now
Xitter is where the game is

>>520504472 (OP)
They literally shut down and refuse to talk if you say the sky is blue.
I've tried talking to them online and in real life for over a decade. They just keep running away sometimes physically with their hands over their ears or covering their eyes to protect themselves from....videos of Indians in Canada

>>520523669
My guy if you put a lethal trap in the way, the rats will learn and stay away from the cheese. Killing people is an effective deterrent. It is a much more effective deterrent than spending decades upon decades to prosecute random employers.

It is moral, good, and just for a nation to defend its borders with lethal force. To do otherwise is barbarism.

>>520523607
There are a lot less of the employers by an order of magnitude so it wouldn't be cheaper to try and wholesale slaughter like 30 million illegal beaners or whatever the true number is.
Also I should have posted in the OP that everyone who participates in it needs to both denounce the talmud AND vishnu.

>>520522920
Sharing only works in a high trust society. That trust is dead and the social contract is too.
>>520523371
>he thinks the government won't backdoor every device to track your crypto wallets
They will always find a way to solidify power.

>>520523356
damn ar eyou a tranny? why ar eyou so mad that the people voted against your bullshit? becaus ejust dont like woke shit forced on us, can't you understand that? you could have kept it to your bedroom, not stolen our money, censor the whole internet, not opress us, not censor us. Not advocate for the ruin of the country through immigration and globohomo garbage.

Now because of you Trump got elected.

Everything is your fault. Narcissistic power abusing shithead.

>>520504704
Fag

>>520523892
The shooting is for those caught and those trying to cross the border. Keep it up for a month or two, and you will solve the problem.

>>520504472 (OP)
A lot of posters here tried to converse with the left on other sites but got banned. Say the wrong thing to 1 irl & many end up seething about bullshit. Sometimes it ends up 1 step forward 2 steps back

>>520524007
>he didn't denounce the talmud and vishnu
ok which one is it?
I know what my money is on.

>>520504704
Hey fat

>>520524151

>>520504472 (OP)
No.

>>520524146
The talmud is the manual of the synagog of satan. It is a vile, evil creation of some of the most depraved minds the world has seen. No jew can trace to Jacob.

All gods of the hindu are demons. I don't even give enough of a shit about them to go learn who vishnu is.

Lethal force is a cheap, practical, and necessary part of the defence of a nation.

>>520524140
It's important to talk to people IRL about this stuff but if you ever do, you should generally stay away from coworkers unless you are financially independent and you need to make sure you are not talking to a crypto jew.

>>520523874
Why are you so hellbent on defending the employers of illegals? It’s the most effective strategy. Are guns just cooler in your brain?

>>520524331
Alright, thank you unlike that other mandingo poster who refused while continue posting BBC cuck stuff.

>>520524422
I'm not. They should be prosecuted. Lethal force is cheap, easy to implement, and effective. It is the most effective strategy, why do you not even consider it?

"Come to america, make money, and maybe you'll be SOL after a half decade when your employer gets caught and goes through a years long court case"

"Come to america, and get a hot bullet and a cold grave"

Which is more inviting?