Thread 520553860

American hegemony over the seas is over in case of a real conflict

These Poseidon can be travelling for months, years, or even waiting at deep sea level.

A giga explosion that the world has never seen could wipe out an entire American carrier strike group in the Pacific, with 0 dead civilians.

Soon there will be 30 Poseidons patrolling the seas

And who knows how many Chinese Poseidons too... another 50?

Good on Russia on finally reaching 1950's tech

>>520553924

Hahaha, this is different.
America doesn't have this tech.

Use google, faggot.

>>520553860 (OP)
I could 1v1 a poseidon ez

Lol. Lmao even

>>520553860 (OP)
Your a fucking moron nukes are not magic I win buttons. They are extremely damaging to dense cities and wooden structures, but the effective blast radius compared to something like the ocean is laughably small. Whatever they are armed with doesn’t matter they’d have to get within spitting distance of a carrier to sink it.

Nukes are not anti military weapons they are strategic weapons designed to decimate civilian urban areas and not much else. Maybe hardened bunkers. The normal ones don’t even give off that much radiation either.

Implessive. What do you figure happens to the country that erases a carrier group with a nuclear weapon?

>>520554157
They get a medal from the pentagon for hitting a moonshot

People see photos like this and think they release marvel powers. They don’t. Japanese cities were mostly wooden structures at the time and the solid buildings were basically untouched.

>>520553860 (OP)
Nuking a carrier strike group is a good way to activate MAD and unlike Russia the usa population is very spread out and there are not enough nukes on this planet to nuke all of the usa unlike Russia while they're the biggest country on the world they're still a concentrated city cucks and nuking them completely is very easy.

>>520554157

What happens is that country renders the US military as useless and therefore the US loses its leverage.

Suppose that China invades Taiwan and the US rushes to protect it. Then China (or Russia) drops one of these, and the american carriers are destroyed in the Chinese Sea.


Oh, you got destroyed? Why? What were you doing here?? We didn't know, sorry.

>>520554312

that shit was 14 kilotons

The Poseidon can carry up to 100 megatons.

At least 20 megatons for sure.

muuch much bigger than Hiroshima

>>520554369
Nukes are not really anti material weapons

Jet fuel might arguably be more destructive to a skyscraper than a nuke

>>520554369
Irrelevant, because underwater detonations are kind of trash. Especially in deep water.

Plus, you know
>Russian navy

>>520554312
so those were early weak weapons. now they are typically tens of thousands of times more powerful. read a book moron

>>520554315
Russia has anti-missile defense and USA's rusted 1970's rockets don't even work anymore.

>>520554155
You don't seem to understand what would happen if a nuke was set off deep underwater.

>>520553860 (OP)
Using a cannon to trim one's toenails isn't wining anything.

>>520554642
You seem to be forgetting we have frightful black site tech and it's not a meme
You launch one nuke at us and we will break out the TR4-7's(you didn't know we made em this big) and go full independence day on your nation

>>520554642
Your S series are all garbage just like American and German equivalent.
Missile defence is very pricey and usually doesn't even works

>>520554326
Hmm I don't know anon that seems a bit far fetched. The US has a large nuclear arsenal and carriers are considered US soil so any nuclear attack gets a response in kind. There would be no talking about oopsies the fleet disappeared. The remaining 9 carrier strike groups and the submarine fleet would have a response for the hostile country as well. Not sure if we would lose all leverage. We may even gain leverage after showing the world how a country can completely disappear. Sorry anon, I'm just not seeing your outcome as possible.

>>520554639
>>520554696
Back to community college

Nukes are not marvel superhero weapons that thanos snap everything within 500 miles. They are similar to volcanic eruptions. There is the immediate explosion area that is extremely destructive, but the vast majority of damage is done in the larger concussive blast area which can be devastating to flimsy structures but targets underground or behind solid walls will probably be unharmed. Underwater is not much different.

>>520555078
I'm not taking a lecture on physics from some faggot who keeps talking about comic books

>>520555077
You’d have to get very close to a carrier to sink it with a nuke. Even then they are extremely hardy ships and unless it somehow capsized or something it would probably be fine.

Really the scary thing about nuke torpedoes is the fact that I think they can trigger tsunamis by triggering landslides. There was some tsunami in Alaska triggered by a landslide that was 100 feet tall or something. Against a docked carrier that might be game over.

>>520555165
You want me to educate you about how much of a tough guy you really are

>>520555254
> I think they can trigger tsunamis by triggering landslides
They can’t.

>>520554155
You don't know what you're talking about. Read about Operation Crossroads, which were little baby nukes tested against ships in the ocean. Huge amount of water displaced and the ships were highly contaminated with radiation afterward. We have nukes more than 1000x as powerful now.
https://youtu.be/ydWLkyMRfaU

>>520553860 (OP)
Russia should fire a dud and have it surface right in the middle of a carrier group.

>>520554155
Go and watch some underwater nuke tests with ships around them. The whole group would be sunk.

russian chest thumping is beyond fucking retarded
they cant even defeat the tutorial nation on their doorstep

>>520554315
That central area is larger than Germany in surface area and not very dense. Russian population is less urbanized than Germany or USA.

>>520555426
No you dont know what your talking about

The economy is fine
The navy is fine

Germans lose again

>>520554642
>Russia has anti-missile defense

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEDta4UnZgc

amerigoblinos fat mutts on suicide watch, the only war that they won was thanks of USSR.

Russia and USA should have a nuclear exchange desu involving 500 nukes on each side

>>520554157
Nothing since retaliation would result in zogmerica's destruction.

>>520554326
No leverage to be gained once everyone is nuked. All Xi could do is sit under the ruins of Beijing with the knowledge that he destroyed a carrier air group in the first salvo.

>>520555478
Carrier group ships only go together like in OP's pic for photo-ops. Under normal conditions they are spread hundreds of meters to kilometers apart. All ships in the carrier group have only 1 goal - to protect the carrier, which is a moving target, that can be deceptively fast in an ocean. Even aiming at one would be like trying to hit a squirrel in a forest with a BB gun. And then you might realize that the squirrel also has a gun pointed at you.
>>520555486
It was plausible in 2014, now it's just pathetic and sad. Like an old senile grandfather shouting how he was a star player in high school

>>520553860 (OP)
>These Poseidon can be travelling for months, years, or even waiting at deep sea level.

you know nuclear subs need to have a crew looking after the machinery to function

>>520555643
Hopefully however many nukes you launch at Russia and china they lunch twice as many in return

>>520553860 (OP)
How would Russia even know if we had tiny tracking beacons stuck all over the sides of it and their subs? How would we even know if they had stuff stuck to ours? What are the chances that Israel has them stuck on both?

>>520553860 (OP)
>muh nooooooooks
You don't have the balls to use them, Vatnigger.

>>520554642

>Then why did your secret military meeting get bombed despite having s400 over looking the area

>>520555594
I second this. Numbers and this will happen soon.

>>520553860 (OP)
>why yes we can just first strike nook them
>they wouldn't retaliate with more nooks

>>520555780
>You don't have the balls to use them, Vatnigger.

oh man, russians have 3 balls, its over.

>>520555779
Both of you do regular maintenance to your things so that's impossible. Israel has yours tracked though but that's consensual

>>520553860 (OP)
>putting winner in the image
Go back to Africa retard

>>520555502
Retard.
Region Approx. Area (km2) Relative to Germany

City of Moscow 2,561km2 ≈ 0.7 % of Germany
Greater Moscow Metropolitan Area 46,000–50,000km2 ≈ 13–14 % of Germany

>>520553860 (OP)
>even waiting at deep sea level
Okay, and how do you communicate with them to tell them to stop waiting?

>>520556305
It's AI controlled (actually indians)

>>520553860 (OP)
the torpedo is so noisy it can be detected from another ocean it is launched from

>>520553860 (OP)
russia nuking a carrier group would most likely provoke a nuclear response on moscow and st petersburg within 5 minutes

>>520556408
you wont do shit

>>520554315
Russia has bomb shelters for more than 50% of their population. Moscow has bomb shelters for more than 90% of its population.

>>520556461
Over a million Russian and Ukrainian slaveshits are killed because the usa doesn't need to do shit because the slaveshits are very good in doing shit themself.

>>520556461
maybe not a direct attack on moscow but usa would probably nuke a military base in exchange

You know that US has the largest and most advanced submarine fleet in the world, don't you?
There's a reason we don't build ships anymore.

>>520556408
not really
it would take a long time for the survivors to find out what happened
besides russia could do this as part of a first strike

>>520556670
you won't do shit
you will fold and taco and shit yourself

>>520556196
So what, again the central dense area there is larger than the size of germany because it contains lot more than just Moscow. Moscow isn't even on the picture because the actual pixels that Moscow occupies are cut off.
Further more even your own figures there should illustrate the problem. Moscow itself would require hundreds of nukes to carper bomb due to it's sheer size, it's extremely resilient for a city as far as nuclear defense goes.

>>520556521
That's true but icbms need what? 30 minutes? Lots could be saved but most would have not enough time to react.

>>520556686
You're retarded. I hope your stupid family dies in a trench in Ukraine.

>>520554315
80% of Americans live east of the Missouri river. where did people get the idea that we were spread out

>>520556756
I mean I get that you can't read a map but dam

>>520554312
You’re the dumbest motherfucker I’ve ever seen on this board

>>520556796
What is with the fucking retards ITT

>>520555717
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydWLkyMRfaU

>>520553860 (OP)
it's over, russia won...

>>520553860 (OP)
since the nato talk is on the table vlad is shitting his fucking pants, its all brown and dripping underneath.

>>520553860 (OP)
if you've ever taken a look at Russia's naval capacity now or in the past, you'd know that Russia has scored more kills against themselves than against anyone else.

good job. Russia is going to nuke itself and you're retarded.

>>520556305
some guy with a remote control spams buttons until it rises up and explodes and kills all sea life, completely missing its targeta and causing a fallout so bad that Russia leaves the Earth in shame

thus, the first Mars colony is born, the next generation of penal colony

Wow Russia really destroyed a whole Carrier Fleet with a single torpedo? When did this happen?

Oh, right, never. It never happened. It's more ridiculous Russian wunderwaffe claims meant to intimidate western nations in the hope they really, really don't call the bluff because the Russians don't actually have anything.

>>520557158
It's full of Russian shills, what did you expect? They are ignoramuses, that's why they support the HIV capital of Europe.

I heard Ukraine is winning because Russia is making no progress with pop rocks. The powder snorter in Kiev said so.

>>520553860 (OP)
>Russian Torpedo
There's a better than 50% chance this shit kills the entire crew of the sub carrying it rather than launch, navigate, and attack successfully.

>>520556571
wait until Russia activates the I.N.C.E.L
I mean you can’t expect German girls to rape themselves, can you?

>>520553860 (OP)
>Chinese Poseidons
ror
rmao
the Russians just barely completed them and you think the Chinese would have time to copy it and work out the kinks (which they never really do, case in point with their aircraft and aircraft carrier)

>>520553981
Neither does Russia.

>>520554840
That was cute

>>520554315
Realistically speaking if nukes do get used, they will probably be used to decimate military targets FIRST. The cities come last. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were destroyed because Japan couldn’t retaliate in an equal manner. It’s different now that your enemy can wipe out your cities. So closer to the tail end of a war when an enemy has a heavily fortified position that can withstand drones, artillery and bombers, a nuke might get used.

>>520553860 (OP)
Russia is starting to catch up to China with the number of "final warnings" it has issued but immediately backed down from when pressed.

>>520553981
>search for the truth using goyslop
Lol, i bet you think everything google tells you is true.