Thread 520562405

Trumpfags, was shutting down the government worth it? You can cry and whine about the democrats all you want, but Americans know that Republicans control all the branches of government. Fallout from this will be on the Republicans.

>>520562405 (OP)
Do basedboys actually believe this shit will work? Literally everyone is blaming the dems for the shutdown for not voting on the budget. Niggers chimping out because the lack of gibs will only help making more Trump voters.

>>520562479
It's not as if the Republicans haven't been equally evil in their messaging towards their own constituents of late
https://newrepublic.com/post/202135/donald-trump-cattle-ranchers-ungrateful-beef-argentina

>>520562588
Cattle ranchers are fags

>>520562479
Yeah, and she was wrong to say that which is why she's no longer relevant.

>>520562537
>Literally everyone is blaming the dems
Literally no one except people in rightwing media bubbles believe this

>>520562712
Fags who voted for Trump every time

>>520562405 (OP)
average American does not pay attention to or give a fuck about detailed breakdowns of Congressional politicking

Trump ran on immediately tackling the cost of living crisis but it is only getting worse and to makes matters more painful the job market is freezing up. voters were willing to give him time but its been nine months and things are only accelerating in the wrong direction.

>>520562405 (OP)
This why Democracy sucks. A 2% drop in badly conducted polls and it's time to abandon everything and start promising more gibs and other toys to electorate to boost your approval. China doesn't have do deal with this crap and can plan long-term.

>>520562901
He did enough retarded things that people will blame him for the recession, even if it was probably inevitable due to Fed policy

>>520562852
I remember your types claiming that no one will vote for Trump except "righwing media bubbles"

>>520562852
If Republicans really controlled all three branches of govt then how come the government can be shut down? Oh, thats right, because democrats won't vote yes on a bill to fund the government without being able to tack on a bunch of other shit to the bill.

>>520563022
tarriffs were the gayest fiscal policy of all time that is having doomer wojak tier ramifications for real men. the chart was made by an LLM because nobody explained how the rates were calculated and why they had regions that weren't even autonomous. just a big F U to trade partners that we can't even hire economists to design a system.
what I was saying about doomer wojaks, I bet every hobbyist boomer is seething up their pants because I can't buy shit from foreign ebay anymore. imagine being a typical goy retired hobbyist and every plastic screw is becoming unobtanium lmao.

>>520562901
>>520563022
Both of these things were inevitable due to the US no longer being the only world superpower. Its dollar and debt fueled wealth will eventually fail. We just need to time it properly so it lands on leftoids.

>>520563240
You can still buy all the dumb shit you want from china you complete retard.
Thanks for telling us what you know about international trade.

>>520562405 (OP)
Wow blimpf is 9 points under water. That's crazy, let's check in on the Democrat party.

>>520562537
They did vote... and they voted agaisnt.
Trump needs to stop being a nigger and just move on and take the L.

Two dems voted yes, a republican even voted no. So it's not a clear cut budget. It needs to be re worked. At this point the Republicans are to blame for this shit.

>>520563204
Because Republicans refuse to negotiate. Being a leader means being able to find compromise and they're failing. Also keep in mind that Republicans can use a nuclear option to reopen the government themselves, but they're choosing to play political games.

>>520563332
for now. maybe cause the chinks don't care. it's days until howard lutnick says aliexpress is banned because of xyz

>>520563474
>Two dems voted yes
What did the other 47 Dems vote?

>>520562537
>disapprove of Trump
for not going hard enough.

>>520562405 (OP)
Democrats shut down the government and everyone knows that.

>>520563240
This. Tariffs will NOT make manufacturing in the US viable for structural reasons(no cheap raw materials, no cheap energy, no workers, no infrastructure, hostile and useless bureaucracy, etc.) and China does not get a single cent less from it. Only YOU, the consoomer is getting ripped off more- Its functionally an extra tax that the government levied on you, because its anti-capitalist policies made free trade impossible.

>>520563561
this

>>520563563
Democrats don't control the government. Republicans do. You can't blame Dems when you control the White House, Senate AND Congress and still can't get your agenda passed. At that point your party's just utterly inept

>>520563579
To be quite fair, the US has needed to decoupke from China for a while. Manufacturing needs to be moved to Mexico and Central America. Tariffs against the Chinese help speed this up.

>>520562405 (OP)
that disapproval comes from not fucking the leftie and globohomo hard enough.

purge their woke ass ranks out of anywhere
kick all the immigrants in the fuckings sea, and tell the farmers and hotels that if they cannot manage without bean beans, someone else can take those businesses and do it
infinity tariff
Let people rampage and do 150 political killings after charlie kirk
release epstein shit
yeet every jeet
drop ukraine war instantly and make commercial agreements with russia
destroy 230 and force big tech social to open carriers status
take away freedom of speech using military power from every media and agree to give them back as long they publish an essay realy all they propaganda and censorship done in the last 10 years plus 2 pages of handwritten nigger nigger nigger nigger
build another wall for canada

>>520563501
>Negotiate with the minority
No thanks, you have no power thanks to an activist judge reopening snap benefits.

>>520563579
The US is the second largest industrial manufacturer behind China. You're retarded.

>>520563552
45 voted no, that included one republican, and one independent. 55 voted yes, that included two democrats and one independent.

That's the vote. And Trump has said that he is demanding the democrats change their vote. He's being a petty little bitch about it. If that's how those poeple voted then that's that, time to renegotiate.

It's not that hard to understand what's going on.

>>520563501
That nuclear option is pandoras box. The ruling party can vote and pass everything.

>>520563713
Tariffs do nothing now, China controls the production chains and no one is going to spend trillions of dollars on building alternatives that China could shut down at will by cutting off their access to materials..

>>520563884
And what does it manufacture? Baseball mud? McIlhenny's Tabasco sauce? Who are you kidding? Just because Lockheed and Raytheon get a hundred billion dollar production deal from taxpayer funds and it shows up a hundred billion dollars of GDP in accounting, it doesn't mean you have a hundred billion dollar industry.

>>520563501
Refuse to negotiate about giving illegals healthcare

>>520562405 (OP)
>Americans know that Republicans control all the branches of government
most americans (and most people overall) can't even name them lmao

>>520562405 (OP)
I could only wish it remains closed forever, just have a judge rule that trump must start paying airline controllers and we would have my perfect goverment

>>520562588
Kek that was Trump’s finest moment. He told those faggot migger farmers what the deal was and they just sat there and took it.

FELL FOR IT AGAIN!!!

Based Trump.

>>520563841
>you have no power
>Somehow able to shutdown the government
Which is it anon?

>>520564151
> Tariffs do nothing now, China controls the production chains and no one is going to spend trillions of dollars on building alternatives that China could shut down at will by cutting off their access to materials..

That’s literally what corporations have been doing for the past year now. They are “diversifying” to other parts of Asia because its literally impossible to do business with the CCP. Even APPLE who GAVE the CCP billions in extra bribes of the books is trying to get away.

The changes already happened, factory order cancellation due to tariff panics is basically kryptonite to foreign trade industry…which is big in china lmao.

>>520564179
>Refuse to negotiate about giving illegals healthcare
All you fags ever do is lie. Republicans are trying to fund handouts to the health insurance and pharmaceutical companies. Hence why they don't want to fund tax credits that keep healthcare cost for CITIZENS low.

>>520562405 (OP)
the democrats decided democracy didn't work for them. they couldnt get the votes to do what they want so they decided to use snap as a hostage situation and blame trump. but you're not supposed to negotiate with terrorists thats common sense. the republicans have voted to resume government and snap many times, dems refuse until their undemocratic demands are met.

>>520564132
>That nuclear option is pandoras box. The ruling party can vote and pass everything.
Exactly. Which means they'll shoulder all the blame when things go wrong. If the Republicans are so confident with the current budget, they can just do it.

>>520564559
They are not. Those are Chinese companies, completely integrated into the Chinese production chains, aimed at making the Chinese system more resilient. Incredible amount of coping and wishful thinking is going on by muttoids who want to believe China is weak

>>520562405 (OP)
That's what winning looks like.

>>520565026
Haha, no, they already got production lines ready to go in other dirt cheap asian country like Vietnam. Honestly, once the supply line issue is shaken out, the comes the rare earths dilemma, the CCP’s ONLY ace card.

>>520563654
>Democrats don't control the government. Republicans do.
Exactly, so why is it okay for Democrats to demand a repeal of part of a bill that was already passed by the party that controls the government?
Aren't they just refusing to accept that they're not in control?

>>520563204
Lol

I don't believe this at all. Mostly because if you go to any youtube video from a right winger all the comments are praising blumpf, all the usual people seem just as happy as before. The polls make it sound like there's some weird middle group of people whose approval of trump fluctuates from one week to another, and these people are not vocal because I never see their opinions online. Dont you think if people who approved of Trump and now disapprove 2 weeks later would be voicing that? But we dont see that anywhere.

>>520562405 (OP)
Government shutdown is just one of many things he fucked people over with.

>>520565242
Why would representatives vote agaisnt what they're supposed to be representing? The people who voted for them.

The GOP and Trump have this retarded plan to rule through absolute executive power, but they're finding out it doesn't work like that. They arent the soviet government or some shit.

>>520565488
How many people on snap voted for them that are now being held hostage as a bargaining tool for healthcare for non-citizens?

>>520565488
So do Republicans control the government or not?

>>520563501
>refuse to negotiate
>give us whatever we want is a negotiation

There isn't a soul that believes trump did the shutdown. Everyone knows it was the Democrats. All this shutdown has done is solidify Trump's position. One can only hope he gets a third term.

>>520565488
You guys at least do have that kind of government in the People's Democratic Republic of Chindia.

>>520562405 (OP)
It wasn't us who shut it down.

>>520562405 (OP)
Trump and the Republicucks are going to crack soon, that's what. Shitlibs know he's a vain popularity contest faggot and have probably sent "based" nigs to have chats with them about "dey communities".

They'll sign the funding bill "just this one time" to get things going again and we'll have added 100M illegals to the free food trough. Next, they'll start removing [more] White families from SNAP to make the ends meet.

Jews will laugh, and laugh.

>>520562405 (OP)
Every day of the shutdown is a day that the government isn't busy trying to fuck me in the ass

>>520565972
Imagine if one of the republican minority congresses did this. Just refuse to open the government unless segregation was put into the budget. They'd call them fucking crazy and ignoring the wishes of their constituents. But doing the exact same thing for benefits for illegals is seen as brave and actually have people blaming republicans for not passing it. They showed a poll on nbc news that has the majority of people blaming trump and republicans, not democrats for it. The problem is, as it always has been, mainstream media propaganda.

>>520566088
You can't possibly believe this. There's a large subset of people that just believe whatever the media tells them to believe and the media is going hard on this being trump's fault.

>>520564179
hey dumbass the republicans are trying to double YOUR health insurance costs

>>520562405 (OP).

If you ask who wanted the government shutdowned, then look no further, and see it is the Dems fault.

National agglomeration polls are not the accurate representation for R favorability.

Now do via state, because this is Hillary Clinton, or Kamala Harris' alleged Top 1 fake polls over again

>>520563579
Funny how America was strong as fuck before "free trade" with China

>>520566311
You mean like obamacare did?

>>520564151
Thank god we have free trade with China amirite? Otherwise we'd be a destitute feudal shithole like China was before 2001 when it joined the WTO and every American company rushed into China to build factories and do joint ventures and technology transfers

>>520565026
China does not have a domestic consumption culture where they spend money they don't have on credit cards and go in to debt to buy shit. Instead most chinks hoard money under their mattress until they can buy a Mercedes with cash

>>520565904
>>520565920
>>520566091
Non sensical Cope. Trump and the Republicans are causing this shit to drag on. Re negotiate. It's that simple.

>>520566244
>ignoring the wishes of their constituents
Drastically increasing healthcare costs while giving handouts to billionaires is indeed ignoring the will of the constituents. Republicans are in the wrong here

republicans love starving poor white people and then gloating about it

>>520566600
>Drastically increasing healthcare costs while giving handouts to billionaires is indeed ignoring the will of the constituents
>Republicans are in the wrong here
Oh, I thought you were talking about obamacare for a second there.

>>520566538
>Chinese people want overpriced, low-quality German cars

>>520566592
You don't have the cards, nigger. You think this hurts republican voters more than dem voters? They're torturing their own constituents as a bargaining tool. It's depraved.

>>520566754
You mind explaining the Republican plan to "repeal and replace Obamacare" that Trump has been talking about for over a fucking decade, but never created?

>>520566696
>>520566729
I hate the botox face shit so much

>>520567126
Bro, you'll shut down the government for illegals to have access to healthcare. You think repealing obamacare would have a chance of going through? The point stands that insurance premiums have increased fivefold since its inception but you want to bitch that it'll cost double for faggots getting free money from the government? Fuck them.

>>520562405 (OP)
MAGA support has clearly collapsed, you can see it online very clearly. /PTG/ stick their head in the sand and ignored everything, it's just a spam thread at this point. We're in the "Denial" stage, and some people are just further along.

Trump will always keep it 20% of rabid cultists, but the rest of starting to fall.

>>520567327
No nigger, it will cost double for YOU
>it already costs more
so why not pay ten times more you dumb kike slave lmao

>>520565453
the democrats shutdown the government retard

>>520567491
>Premiums increase 500% for obamacare
>I sleep
>Premiums increase 20% for kicking off leeches from the government dole
>Real shit
I will gladly pay extra if it means shitskins like you have less incentive to invade my homeland.

>>520566866
You think only Democrat voters have snap benefits or similar benefits?
You really think that just because they "control" certain branches of government they can do what ever the fuck they want?
This is exactly how your government works, to not allow for absolute rule. It's working as intended. And there's also mechanisms that allow for the government and executive to stop this shut down or continue to hand out federal aid. But guess who isn't doing that?
This is a display of poor leadership. Shit top down leadership. Trump isn't a leader, he doesn't give a fuck about unity or what's best for everyone regardless of their political views. He's a selfish retard who thinks this is all a fucking zero sum business deal. And you endorse it. You're a fucking selfish asshole. All of you.

>>520562405 (OP)
Trump is a shabbos of the highest order, maybe even King Shabbos himself. What's happening is he's making his juish pals richer and more indulged than ever before.

>>520567645
Kinda seems like the dems want absolute rule since they're the ones making demands as the minority. Whatever happened to the voice of democracy telling the country how it should be run? Didn't democracy tell them they are the unpopular party and people reject their harebrained schemes?

>>520564772
>Hence why they don't want to fund tax credits that keep healthcare cost for CITIZENS low
You're conflating affordable health care costs with insurance. You shouldn't need insurance to pay to see a doctor, buy prescriptions, or need anything else health care related. All the ACA did was give more money to insurance companies and now they want more.

>>520567637
>dr. goldbergstein demands more
>i pay
you know you don't have to suck jew cock at all? or is that beyond your scale of MIGA thought?

>>520562852
Completely untrue. Even leftist retards aren't so deluded to pretend this isn't 100% due to democrats favoring free healthcare for illegals instead of the needs of their supposed constituents. Keep your head in the sand, maybe your fantasy will become reality that way!

>>520567794
Pretty sure obamacare said that I, in fact, was required to take part in it.

>>520567327
>you'll shut down the government for illegals to have access to healthcare
As long as you keep lying about this shit, you're not worth engaging with. Continue to believe your retarded propaganda.

>>520567915
>i have to suck jew cock better than they suck jew cock
a classic

>give me you're life savings or your daughter gets it!!!
>whoa you think I'M in the wrong here? Buddy you're the one who won't negotiate for your daughter

>>520562537
It's true though. I live in the most conservative part of a really red state but I've never seen so many "I regret voting for Trump" signs in lawns. Everywhere I look, not one Trump supporter who doesn't regret it. It's crazy because everybody here voted Trump 3 times in a row, but it's obvious that this time, it was a mistake. We call him "Trump the Mistake" in my house.

I was at a bar in town on Saturday night. It's the kind of place where working class guys, truckers, and farmers go to unwind after an honest day's work, a real salt-of-the-Earth type of place. We were watching a local high school football game on the TV and one of the players happened to be named Harris, which prompted people in the bar to start talking about Kamala Harris. My dad (a coal-miner) says "y'know, I've voted red since the Reagan administration but I really should have given her a chance. I'm a fool for being so racist and sexist that I couldn't vote for a Brown woman, she was clearly the best choice." Then the local gun store owner, who is also the head of the local KKK chapter, said “I can’t believe I’m saying this, but we need to impeach Trump and Vance and replace them with Kamala.” I look around and my face is stunned. All of these hardcore Trump supporters are shaking their heads in agreement. I heard a couple “yes, sir” and “damn straight”. Everyone started nodding and agreeing, and we were talking about how she's not a billionaire so she understands the plight of the middle class. We all call her Middle Class Kamala around these parts.

She was the best candidate for the job, and the only reason she lost is because we were too racist and sexist to realize it. She was basically President for the last 4 years and our economy was booming. We call her Queen Kamala and praise her Kamalaconomy. Anyways just thought I'd throw in my two cents on the matter.

>>520567950
So why are they refusing to vote for the budget then? What is so important they want people to starve in order to pass?

>>520563474
>take the L
What L? The retard minority democrats are doing this. Why do you idiots think the majority should bend to the outlier minority? Oh right, you're spoiled deluded libtards who say dumb shit like you're on the right side of history to justify every stupid fucking thing you fags believe in.

>>520567982
It was against the law to not have insurance and they would punitively fine me if I didn't have it. Are you even old enough to remember when obamacare was passed?

>>520567992
funny, i don't know which side this is supporting

>>520563912
What, dems being petty little bitches? Yeah, we know. Everyone knows. Another democrat disaster. They can't stop fucking up!

What if both repubs and democrats are to blame for the shutdown?

>>520567756
They arent demanding anything. They fucking voiced their democratic right, a vote. That's it. They disapprove.
And now it's Trump making the demands that they change their voice, they change their vote. That's anti democratic.
He needs to stop being a poor loser and re negotiate.

>Didn't democracy tell them they are the unpopular
Nope. That's not how a representative democracy works anon. They are there because they are popular from the district they reside in.

>>520565920
Honestly, they could use the nuclear option and just pass it but of course then democrats would reee fascism. Democrats: they're simply the worst!

>>520568177
>>520568030
Why do wo many burger niggers not understand how their own government works?

You can't win it all. Stop being whiny bitches about it.

>>520568248
>They disapprove
Then own it, faggot. Stop trying to say republicans need to kowtow to their demands. If the dems disapprove of the government being open and their constituents getting their food stamps then say so. Stop trying to pretend like it's anyone else's fault this is happening.

>>520568015
Democrats already explained this. MTG already explained this. You're either dishonest or stupid at this point.
See:
>>520563501

>>520568248
...or the democrat minority should nevotiate, as they are causing the gov't shutdown and SNAP benefits to be halted. But their heckin' precious illegalreenos are more important than American citizens! With Dems, you lose!

>>520563459
People hate you just slightly less than they hate another party wow what an accomplishment

>>520568433
The Dems are doing 3x worse than trump and Trump isn't on the ballot next year. You lost and will continue to lose.

>>520568398
So you think the republicans should have more power to ramrod through their agenda? How fascist of you.

>>520568398
So dems refuse to negotiate because...erm ackshully the majority party should negotiate their shit away instead? Yeah no, that's fucking retard thinking.

>>520562405 (OP)
Oh look the yearly "our elections are totally legitimate" polls.

>>520563579
> Hungarian kike likes running his mouth
Water is wet

>>520568506
Sure they are

>>520568510
They do, you know. They don't want to do that, mostly because then you completely soulless leftists would scream fascism. Nobody ever gets a good deal when they deal with disingenuous dems!

>>520568511
>esl thinks "negotiate" means "give"

>>520568382
But we can. Dems need to stop destroying the country and negotiate. But noo muh illegals are more important than American citizens.

>>520568580
>You leftists
Fuck off, you stupid nigger. Learn to fucking read.

>>520568595
>retard thinks majority should kowtow to minority currently shutting down the gov't
There's that retard thinking we've talked about before.

>>520568595
In what way does negotiate not mean giving up pieces of your agenda for theirs, you idiot?

>>520562405 (OP)
Me and my family are die hard trumpists, total like hook line and sinker trump cultists. But this is making us think, we are starting to see what everyone has been saying for years. All those concerns we attacked are sounding a lot more justified.

>>520568656
Lol shut the fuck up leftist nigger.

>>520568656
Republicans are really jumpy right now. I’m not even seeing a big blue wave so they need to chill out.

>>520568511
This is how Congress had always worked. Why do you think the majority party just gets to do whatever they want when that has never been the case?

>>520568720
Ok kike

Trump blew the narrative when he discussed the nuclear option, he plainly stated that the Republicans have a way to open the government back up without Democrat intervention and they are choosing not to. The general public isn't buying Thune's gentleman's agreement.

>>520568817
Because this hurts them more than it hurts us so why not just let it happen? Why save your enemy from the worst fucking optics ever?

>>520568746
>N-NOOOO!!! MUH HECKIN' VALID ILLEGALREENOS NEED FREE HEALTHCARE!! I DON'T CARE IF AMERICANS STARVE!!! MUH BEANIE BABIES!!!
They can just take the nuclear option, but of course you leftist faggots would scream fascism. Pathetic.

>>520562588
>digits wasted
Your article did not show any part of the agreement and just focussed on what others felt about the agreement, and ehat others said Trump said about the farmers.

KYS now, fast.

>>520568645
What made you think democrats have done anything in reality related to immigrants right now when Trump is in charge of it? And how is that related to a shutdown and healthcare benefits? I know it’s because you’re repeating lies from repub social media and Fox-Israel.

>>520568000
I am not a trump supported in any sense, but this is a terrible larp, this did not happen

>>520568871
What is your point here? If this was good for Trump then why did he pressure Republicans to end the filibuster?

>>520568887
You're a bit late to the party if you don't know what's been discussed for weeks now and I'm not here to educate you. Don't participate in threads if you have no idea what's being discussed.

>>520568930
If he wanted it so bad then why hasn't it already happened?

>>520568383
>>520568416
Do you even know what they're voting on?

Wait... Do you think this is a vote whether or not they should be shutting down or not?

>>520568707
That is the definition. Not just "give up your agenda" that is not negotiation.
>>520568692
Kowtow is better, proud of you for trying, jeetanon.

>>520568959
If he didn't, then why did he pressure the Republicans to use the nuclear option?

>>520568959
Maybe they should find out which party members are refusing his direct orders and have them arrested

>>520568990
>If I pretend my enemy doesn't know what's going on, I win!
Pathetic. Stop prioritizing illegals over citizens, traitorous leftist.

>>520568959
Because he is a weak leader and the Senate GOP is cartoonishly evil.

This seems obvious

>>520568991
Shut the fuck up nigger-loving leftist. Pic rel is what you look like.

>>520569048
So you don't understand what's going on.
Jesus fuck. Shut up and move on.

>>520568991
When you're the majority, any negotiation with the minority means giving up your position. Why should we?
>>520569005
They do everything else he says, why not that?

>>520563240
Sauce?
>>520563579
Sauce?
Squirm more.

>>520568921

Believe what you want, but I bleed red, white, and blue. Been shootin’ cans off fenceposts since I could walk, married a girl named Liberty, and I keep a copy of the Constitution in my glovebox.

So you can imagine the shame when I ordered a limited edition “Chainsaw Man” anime body pillow last week and got slapped with $117 in miscellaneous Japan tariffs thanks to a trade memo signed by the Trump administration in 2019.

Had to pay with Apple Pay under my cousin’s name to avoid bein’ tracked by my bank.

Now I come home, and just stare at that pillow lyin’ on my couch like it was judge and jury.

“You did this to yourself,” it whispers in Japanese.

>>520568207
no you can’t possibly think that. it has to be red team or blue team’s fault

>>520569063
So is he incredibly weak or a fascist danger to democracy? What day of the week is it?

>>520564772
Are you trying to say that republicans want to give money the big pharm directly, which you oppose, but dems want to give big pharm money in the form of tax credits, which you approve?
Anon, I...

>>520569158
Honestly, it's my fault for even responding to your first post. Carry on anon

>>520569158
Thats some good pasta!

>>520568000
Walz ain’t so bad

I was over at one of my dad’s house today helping with some household chores. He lives in a very rural area of a very red state. At the end of the work we went to one of the nearby country gay bars. It’s the kind of place that LGBTQIA2S++ farmers, truckers, and legit rainbow cowboy boot wearers and the queer sexworking community go to unwind with a cold one.

Vice President Walz was on the TV and the local gun store owner said to his auto mechanic boyfriend (partners since high school),

“You know what? He ain’t so bad. The economy is recovering, nobody’s rioting, and we’re standing up on the world stage again. Can’t believe I’m saying this but Ol’ Minne Tim’s got my vote this year.”

I looked around and all I saw were heads nodding in agreement. I heard a few calls of “Yes xir” and “Damn the Straight” from the gay men around me. Even saw the lonely ball gag wearing farmer in the corner raise his neck chain with a nod.
As a MAP (Minor Attracted Person), I prefer progressives like Tim Walz, AOC, and Kamala Harris. Not Weird, but Sensible, Strong, and FIERCE progressives. The Biden era is behind us. It's time to join the global revolution and take back our RIGHTS!

I prefer progressives like Tim Walz, AOC, and Kamala Harris. Not Weird, but Sensible, Strong, and FIERCE progressives. The Biden era is behind us. It's time to join the global revolution and take back our RIGHTS.

>>520566311
How so?

>>520569107
I don’t. You are trying too hard to project yourself as usual.

>>520568575
The Dems are losing 30 seats in the house over the next year before a single vote is cast. Good luck.

>>520569902
You don’t even had any real proofs to back up your claims anyway.

>>520563804
This

>>520567645
A majority of Democrat voters are on welfare, yes. An overwhelming majority.

>>520568885
So negotiate or be a fascist. Welcome to politics faggot. Must be your first day

>>520570115
This hard R had been here longer than me. There’s plentiful Hard R on newsbreak app.

>>520568887
It's in their bill retard. I know the average shill is too retarded to read the text of a bill but holy shit it's only one paragraph

>>520562818
>democrats signal intentions for action
>act on it
>it's plays out exactly as thier signaled intentions
>"yea, but this is no longer relevant to the outcome"
Kys.

>>520570040
Not really.

>>520569964
https://www.newsweek.com/democrats-could-lose-these-districts-if-scotus-curtails-voting-rights-act-10879309
You're an idiot

>>520570196
When you are still trying too hard to defends Republicans flaws.

>>520570217
It’s basically all of em

>>520570314
>Gets blown the fuck out
>Deflects
Anon your entire position is that Republicans are evil because of lies you made up in your head. Cognitive dissonance is real and it hurts.

>>520570312
Mmmm cook reports disagrees with you. And why are the maps painted as automatically red without any hard evidences. Adding more blue leaning districts could make for more toss ups.

>>520562405 (OP)
That's probably because the shutdown is a republican shutdown and Trump is doing out of touch rich guy shit while pardoning crypto scammers who pay off his family.

>>520563501
>>520568398
Almost all Republicans and even a few Democrats are voting to re-open the government. This shutdown is squarely on the Dems. Even a dem Senator Coons came and said it. Saying their only leverage came from a shutdown and that pain from foodstamps being cut off was worth it. I know you're a retard, but when you have no leverage except to take action to make sure the gov remains shutdown, and all your political opponents (Republicans) vote to open the gov, the shutdown is on you. Its ok tho, congressional Republicans are gaining approval since shutdown with their own constituents and with independents, Democrats will have to answer to their own about foodstamps and the federal workers unions that demanded they reopen. Maybe Trump will eventually be able to permanently fire a large percentage of gov. workers. Its pretty funny that dem Senators will come out and say the shutdown is our leverage to get what we want publicly, and almost all dems will vote to keep gov shutdown until they get what they want, and retards like you will still come in here and say that its the R's fault. I hope you do not believe your own slop. Will be fun to watch dems fold like a cheap suit when the pressure from their own constituents get to them, while complaining about Trump paying the military taking pressure off of his patrons, great optics btw, dems complaining about paying the military. Should be good.

>>520562405 (OP)
>omg grumpf is doing so bad

ok lets look at demonrats.. oh

>>520570187
>newsbreak app
What is that? The britebart comment section but in a news app?

becoming extremely unpopular and getting overthrown is part of his 4D chess

>>520570340
One of the top 10 worst Republican narratives along with democrats want free stuffs narrative.

>>520570414
“Blows out”? You must be blindly trusting those YouTube Republican garbage channels. The democrat version is just as bad.

>>520570725
Yes. Half of comments on there are hard R like the 10 or so Hard R republicansi estimates that are on /pol/.

>>520570547
Nbc polls show the majority of respondents blame trump and the republicans. Mainstream propaganda is a hell of a thing.

>>520566165
That part of the government isn't shut down, don't you worry.

>>520563804
> that disapproval comes from not fucking the leftie and globohomo hard enough.
Exactly.

Based ideas anon. Let's not forget:
Ban corporate home ownership, force blackrock and friends to sell all homes or face seizure/auction
Ban income and property tax
Hiring an illegal = complete seizure of business assets
Knowingly hiring an illegal = complete seizure of business assets + jail

>>520562588
Argentina has the finest quality beef possibly in the world. What is the complaint again? Because its not pre-loaded with hormones, plastics and jew-cancers?

>>520570830
Kind of. The rightwing and the GOP side, even as far as mainstream Fox News messaging, aims to delegitimize government because that's great for billionaires. The richest don't like having to worry about government, they want to be able to race to the bottom without caring about worker benefits and consumer protections. They hate regulation and taxation. Trump can be shitty on purpose and the point is proven; if government can become this (and you convinced most voters this is somehow the best case scenario) what good is government? If the establishment becomes so appealing most people vote to give power to someone like Trump, maybe democracy is bad.

>>520570414
Trying to shove a lot of left leaning districts into lightly populated red districts and call then Hard R districts don’t always guarantee easy Republican wins. Considers how much biased Republican politicians are.

>>520562537
>Nooo you gotta vote for our budget! THEN once we have what we need we can talk about the budget!
Dems are using the leverage they have, and if the situation was reverse Republicans would absolutely be condemning the Dems for not negotiating with the minority republicans until they approve their budget full of gay nigger aids programs.

>>520562405 (OP)
i've voting Democrat from now on
Trumptards are the worst fuckin faggots
Trump is the worst piece of shit ever elected

>>520568030
>Why do you idiots think the majority should bend to the outlier minority?
Because that's how political compromise works you retarded boomer

>>520562588
>>520562712
>>520564425
If there's a beef shortage in the US, you have to import more to bring down grocery prices. That's basic economics.
If there isn't a beef shortage, that's proof the "US farmers" (actually corporate agribusiness) are price gouging, so fuck em.

What's the issue here?

>>520570725
Had seen many bad Republican narratives pushed a billion times on Newsbreak app. Top favorites includes Soft on crimes, democrat destroying cities, and other narratives that lacks any hard evidences. Took a full year to kill the Keystone narratives.

>>520571895
It's litterally not faggot

>>520571581
>accuses me of watching mainstream propaganda
>cites an NBC poll

Now find the polls citing increased support for congressional republicans with GOP and independent voters during the shutdown which was shown by their CNN pollster. That's your propaganda btw. I don't watch mainstream slop. I can understand the dynamics of what is happening, and unlike (You) I am not a party shill contorting myself to force a narrative.

>>520572020
>Be Republicans
>Have slim majority
>Refuse to compromise with democrats
>They filibuster
>Impotently REEEEE while suggesting that they should vote in favour of your budget

Tell me if the situation was reversed and the Dem budget slashed ICE's budget, reinstated and increased spending on USAID, and expanded SNAP, would you suggest the Republican minority just agree to the Dem budget?

>>520571708
If you're an American cattle rancher you're losing business and since this did nothing to restrict Argentine basedbean sales to China the American economy gains literally no leverage. Should have threatened to collapse Argentina's economy unless they ceased all basedbean sales to China. It's no wonder Trump is losing the trade war.

>>520571895
We don't need political compromise we need more extreme policies.

>>520569124
>N-NOOOOO!!! JUST BECAUSE DEMS SHUT DOWN THE GOVT BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO FUND HEALTHCARE FOR HECKIN' VALID ILLEGALREENOS I DON'T LIKE THAT SO I'M GOING TO PRETEND THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS IS ABOUT AND SAY THAT ANYONE WHO THINKS IT IS DOESN'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON!!!
>iamverysmart.exe

>>520562405 (OP)
Yes, of course. We voted for this, we won, we are in charge now, and there is nothing you can do about it. We have already implemented over 48% of Project 2025. Seethe more losers.
I hope the government stays shutdown forever. I hope the poorfags never get anymore handouts.
I hope every brown person in the US gets deported or shot.

>>520567950
...but it's the truth. I know leftists are allergic to the truth, but that doesn't stop it from being the truth.

>>520562405 (OP)
Epstein files

>>520572496
>American cattle rancher
This is a meme. Most "ranchers" are megacorps. Beef prices are sky high - (((ranchers))) are making plenty of money. If you want lower grocery prices you either import or admit the (((ranchers))) are just price gouging.

>American economy gains literally no leverage
This is also a meme. Why should we be exporting our goods to China in exchange for USD we could just print? We should be BANNING the export of goods to China.

Trump
Deserves
To
Be
Hanged

>>520570459
I don't care what Tim Apple says about politics.
>>520571252
>Newsweek
>YouTube
K
>>520571730
You lost and will continue to lose.

>>520571838
>and if the situation was reverse
Show me a time when this was true.

>>520572070
You need to learn how to read, retard.

>>520562537
It's not the shutdown that is losing him followers.
Our farmers are mad at him for backstabbing them.
Our industrial and labor services are mad that he used them as puppets for his election campaign and then immediately forgot about them after being elected.
Our businessmen are mad that he's replacing them with Indians.

You have to be blind to not see that conservatives are losing faith in his 2nd term.

>>520572825
Every shutdown during Obama's presidency?

>>520570830
Where is this happening outside of your head?

>>520572951
OH MY SCIENCE IS THAT MY ENEMY TELLING ME HOW THINGS ARE GOING AND WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE?!?! GOSH, I BETTER LISTEN UP! WHO BETTER TO TELL ME WHAT'S GOING ON THAN SOMEONE WHO IS TRYING TO DESTROY EVERYTHING I VALUE IN LIFE?!?!
Shut the fuck up, nigger lover, democrats are going to be completely blown the fuck out in midterms. Enjoy the upcoming Wellness Camps, tranny.

>>520573237
Cope

>>520573237
>autistic sperging
>nonsensical rambling
>19 pbtid
Calm down you fucking spaz lmao. I'm almost certainly more right wing than you are.
Trump has proven himself to be a Jewish traitor. I don't need to pretend to like him because I'm not a faggy republican.

This was a natsoc board before you Trump retards immigrated here in 2016, and we're quickly returning to those roots. We're deporting you faggots.

>>520572951
another dumb brown unemployed zoomer idiot with a loud and stupid opinion

>>520572509
Cool, don't expect dems to vote for your extreme policies and the budgets for them

>>520562405 (OP)
Oh no it's tumbling all the way to his first term average!

>>520573896
I work on my families farm outside an industrial city in Iowa. I'm probably more qualified to speak on the opinions of farmers and industrial workers than half of the retards on this board.

Trump is only still popular among suburbia fags. Bunch of homos walking around in tight pants and MAGA hats lol.

>>520572664
>This is a meme. Most "ranchers" are megacorps.
This is irrelevant. Food industries are strategically vital industires that need to be kept at a certain level of prosperity. Also people still work at the ground level.

>This is also a meme. Why should we be exporting our goods to China in exchange for USD we could just print? We should be BANNING the export of goods to China.
Cool have fun with an even more lopsided balance of trade than. America, a country that exports nothing, I'm sure our industries will thrive while we export nothing.

>>520572815
Hard R will always think they are winning but always losing too. Same with hard D.

>>520574097
No extreme policies have ever been enacted by compromise, especially against a foe as vicious as the modern left. Study more history. This is the main issue the people of the UK are facing - you still think things will "get bad enough" people will "see the light" and you'll be able to vote your way out. In reality, you're just getting close and close to permanent election loss through ethnic replacement. Brows will only vote for the left. Even if they were starving, they'd vote for the left.

>>520568746
>Why do you think the majority party just gets to do whatever they want
because thats how democracy works, otherwise voting would be meaningless. oh wait

>>520574311
Trade deficits are just nonsense made up by bankers. Countries should aim to export nothing and import real goods. If you could trade all the money in the world for all the physical goods assets in the world, wouldn't you? Of course you would.

>Food industries are strategically vital industires
If all they're doing is shipping product overseas, they aren't vital at all, they're actually parasitic. We're exhausting our topsoil and paying out government subsidies to ship ag product to China? Insane. Look at this argument the other way around; by importing beef from Argentina, we're essentially capturing their "vital industries" for our own benefit. Somehow, Trump is an idiot for not exporting basedbeans, but also an idiot for importing beef. Can't have it both ways.

>>520574170
Which is low

>>520572372
O would expect people to blame the Republicans for shutting down the government instead of twisting themselves into a pretzel in order to invert reality.

>>520562405 (OP)
A British Prime minister would kill for 43.7% approval.

>>520572994
You mean the one shutdown for 2 weeks meant to stop obamacare? Not quite the same as shutting it down for a month to give illegals bennies.

>>520574829
True. A pity democrat voters are more fickle.

>>520574736
After all by going hard R Trump lost popularity. Imagine if trump went small r oh boy.

>>520572881
You are correct. I realized this after posting. When engaging in these partisan discussions it is too easy for me to read everything as an argument to fight against. My bad dude.

>>520573706
Yeah leftists sure do produce a lot of cope
>>520573763
Shut up commie nigger, everyone sucks cock. Where's your National White Ethnostate party? Didn't see it on the ballot today. What a delusional fucking nigger you are.

>>520574736
Russia hoax, jan 6th, and some random 'dumpf is done' trial in 2022 before he booted up his 2024 campaign.

>>520562405 (OP)
Assuming the polls aren't fake and gay, no one gives a fuck about the government shutdown. It's dissatisfaction with how Trump is gurgling Israel's balls and a failure to lower gas and grocery prices.

>>520575249
It's cool. I can see how it could be interpreted the way you did. I was just giving the counter viewpoint, not endorsing it. Basically I'm just saying most people in america are thoughtless retards that will go along with whatever they're told to.

>>520575426
45% seem to be the norm for trump anyway. When you look at all 3 voting cycles it are always 45% on average.

>>520575388
You don't deserve your digits.

they should keep the government closed forever. fuck the government, starve out the niggers, fire ALL federal workers. stop taxes, taxes are for FAGGOTS

>>520575905
Where can I vote for you?

>>520575145
What does that even mean

>>520575879
Maybe when your white ethnostate party wins an election - or ever starts existing - you can take them away from me, sweaty :)

>>520575976
i'm actually thinking of making my own party, it's called the no nigger party. NO NIGGERS. NO TAXES, NO MORE SPICS, NO MORE FUCKING DOT HEADS. ALL DEMOCRATS JAILED ALL WOMEN BANNED FROM WORKING ANY JOB ALL SNAP BENEFIT FUNDS ARE NOW REROUTED TO BUILD DEATH CAMPS ASAP THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER

>>520574812
You're deflecting. Should Republicans in that situation vote in favour of the Democrat budget?

>>520576099
You "republicans" don't even know whose side you're on anymore kek.
You've been brainwashed by daddy Trump to hate both browns and whites.

If the race war happens, MAGA is going to be the target of both the left and the far right.

>>520576273
Bro, I already said you had my vote. You can stop trying to convince me.

>>520576298
Because republicans aren't a party of ideals so much as they are a catch-all party for people who hate democrats. That's why we have such a diversity of opinions whereas dems are a monolith. I wouldn't be republican if I had any other choice in the matter. Neocons fucking suck but you have to align with them or get steamrolled.

>>520576298
Lol shut the fuck up nigger, you aren't doing shit. Go prep your girlfriends' bull.

>more seethers and dilaters itt
This time for sure drumpftf is finished

>>520562537
I wish it was true but there's no way American voters are smart enough to understand that. Unfortunately. Here's the thing though, most federal employees are Democrat and niggers on food stamps were never voting Republican anyway.

>>520562405 (OP)
>showing me a chart and telling me something happened
>leaving out the timeline that would show me what happened
I wish you faggots would take your twitter bullshit and fuck right off. People here used to make their point without acting like literal women.

>>520562405 (OP)
>Americans know that Republicans control all the branches of government.
OP is edJewcated

>>520562537
Lol get out of your bubble faggot. You are making the same mistake Harris voters were making. The real America isn't the right wing Hitler youth you fascinate them to be. Also, you don't need to wait long, today evening's results will tell where the winds blow

>>520575982
Small r means you listen to voters more and are flexible. Hard R are like closed mind.

>>520562405 (OP)
who do they actually poll? theyve never polled me. i dont know anyone who has ever been polled. not even after voting on election day. from whence do they get these numbers?

>>520574321
Deflection, ad hominem, etc., etc.

>>520563162
are you the only hungarian in your desolate shithole to have a PC or is the EU finally throwing their old stock at you in the monthly gibs

>>520562852
everyone is. and this is why theres suddenly no funded protests. the outrage that was promised had not materialized. the dems shot themselves in the foot, and simultaneously the ziokike republicans are shooting themselves in the foot.

>>520563501
>you refuse to negotiate what we refuse to negotiate!!! how dare you!!!!!

>>520563474
You are Canadian and therefore a fucking leaf

>>520577271
Most people don't even understand you need a filibuster proof majority to control the senate. Even if they had it Murkowski and Mcconnel are basically not even republicans at this point just spoilers.

>>520578508
Which perfectly describes you and Republicans lol. 56% of trump voters wants Obamacare repealed.

>>520578368
Its all fake the only purpose is to gaslight anyone dumb enough to pay attention to it. Thankfully most Americans are smart enough to know that and tuned out over the last few years.

>>520578679
Yeah but gas is still too fucking high, nigger. It was just under 2 bucks with first term Trump before the coof. Staying stagnant at above and at 3 bucks is not good just because gas was 4 bucks during the Obama years and well above 3 during Biden. We're at about the point I expected to see real patterns of lowering in price, and we're not there.

>>520578508
68% of Harris voters wants to expands ACA. Keeping it the same is similar 20% for both voters blocs.

>>520564132
Democrats were going to do it, but Manchin cockblocked them.
At least it became a major issue for Democrats, along with court-stacking.
Everyone except MTG is following the party line and not pressuring the Centrist Scum.

>>520578908
Not really faked. You just ned to subtract 1-3 points from democrats for the real polls.

>>520578556
t. american with 3rd world internet.

Now zoom out on the graph and see how tiny the change is lol.
This is like climatefags zooming in on a temperature graph of the earth and ignoring the billion years before it.

>>520579927
forgot to change your vpn kek

>>520579059
Stop moving the goalposts you dumb fucking faggot. If scamala got in, or any democrat for that matter, prices would still be trending upwards.
Shut up and say 'thank you,' you ingrate.

Oh nooooes!
This kike shill thread has me so triggered and seething and demoralized. I shall now denounce trump and surely he will be removed from office now!
If only kike shills had tried this 6 gorillion times prior!
> No bump for you kike shill

>>520580191
They are trying it too hard past 2 days. But it’s practually average.

>>520579904
>its only a little fake
Its a complete fabrication. If it ever comes close to being real they only got lucky because the stars aligned or the gaslighting worked. Even more likely than that is the votes were faked accordingly by the CIA who took complete control in the 60's. Hey, maybe they let Trump win just so they could try to nuke him from orbit with bullshit to kill the movement? That's more likely than a jewish bean counter at a polling agency giving it to you straight.

You know what, anon? Nevermind all of the above Nate Silver and the keymaster will never steer you wrong Trump is down by 90 points in Iowa right now and the 5 democrat cattle ranchers put front and center without any biographical details represent one of the most conservative voting blocks in full. You got it all figured out. jews only ever lie a tiny little bit they never inflate numbers from nothing.

>>520580903
90 points in Iowa? LMAO. His approval is 49% in Iowa. And you omits Iowa cities. Rural areas are very light population densities.

>>520580903
Vast majority of Trump voters thinks the economy is the same in their states or are better at the national level.

>>520581152
>the jews said his approval is THIS so its THIS dadgummit
Good goy. jewish outfits never lie about numbers.

>>520581247
>thinks he's informed is actually misinformed
Certain Americans had your number before you were even born. Not that you'd know since a jew never told you. You're the information version of a useful idiot.

>>520579059
Just because kamala would have been shittier doesn't make the current economy not shit you fucking retard. Go back to /ptg/ if you want to unquestioningly deep throat Trump.

>>520562588
What does that have to do with the government shutdown (the topic of the thread)?

>>520562405 (OP)
Republicans don't want to continue funding ***illegal*** immigrants. The Democrats keep saying "45 million Americans", but 40 million of those are most likely real, which is the sad part.

>>520581520
You are the Republican NPC on here. Like your soft on crimes narratives which is so illogical.

>>520562405 (OP)
Don't care
Your whining is all that's necessary

>>520583481
That chart just shows extent of caring. It just shows that the right are more tribal and don't care if people outside their inner circle are cheated, killed, or exploited. Standard rightwing stuff.

>>520583758
Agree.

>>520583469
now post homicide clearance rates

>>520583758
dunbars number proves that it is not possible to care for that many things actively
thus it is performative, not real caring

>>520583980
I’m having fun watching the 10 or so hardcore Republicans swarming to this posting.

>>520584111
Dunbar's number is about maintaining a number of relationships, not about caring about people. This chart isn't about action or activism, it's just if you care about right or wrong done.

>>520562405 (OP)
>>520562479
OPEN THE GOVERNMENT NOW
WE GOTTA FEED THE NIGGERS

>>520563501
>Being a leader means being able to find compromise
Never negotiate with terrorists.

>>520586012
Nah you are the terrorists if you and Republicans keep using that excuse. People won’t take you seriously anyway.

>>520586221
I wasn't asking for your input; I was telling you how it is.

>>520562405 (OP)
>>520562818
>>520562852
>>520564894
Looks like the DEMOCRACY DEFENSE FORCE is out earning their paycheck today with their tried and true "look, a new poll" tactic.
You know who has an even more abysmal approval rating? THE ENTIRE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. Now, you be sure to comeback later tonight after the Dems clean house in their rabidly blue state elections and claim they now have a national mandate.

>>520587480
>democrats lose because they are unpopular
>a poll says democrats are unpopular
Nice cope, retard.

>>520572951
>Our farmers
>Our industrial and labor services
LMAO there is no "our", you fucking kike
Unless it's about dick sucking, you should not be representing anyone elses opinion

>>520562588
>newrepublic.com
Is that like what , new CIA fake media? or new mi6 fake media.
I am tired of looking this up , pls remind us.

>>520562405 (OP)
Republicans voted to keep the government open

>>520562405 (OP)
>>520587943
You know what's funny?
Like a dumbass, I spent thousands of dollars on gear and shit I'm never going to need because I realize now you people are going to go out, not with a bang, but with a sad trombone sounding whimper.