Thread 520565460

>Jesus is asked if it was lawful to pay taxes to the Roman authorities

Jesus responded by saying, “Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and unto God the things that are God’s,”
What are the political implications of this?
Are we to keep our lives as citizens separate from our spiritual lives?
Should the state be separate from the church?
What earthly authorities should Christians submit to?

>>520565460 (OP)
If you ask Grok it will give a better explanation than most here

Jesus' statement in Matthew 22:15–22 (paralleled in Mark 12:13–17 and Luke 20:20–26) was a response to a trap set by Pharisees and Herodians. They asked whether Jews should pay the Roman census tax (a poll tax symbolizing subjugation to Caesar). A "yes" would alienate Jewish nationalists; a "no" would brand him a rebel against Rome.
By requesting a denarius (bearing Caesar's image and inscription), Jesus highlighted:

The coin was Roman currency, used in a Roman-occupied economy.
His reply—"Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and unto God the things that are God’s"—affirmed paying taxes without endorsing Roman divinity or tyranny.

>>520565641

Grok is fail

>>520565641
Thank you Cock.

>>520565641
>>520565754
It answer the questions posed. I dont think theology is grok's strong point

>>520565460 (OP)
It depends who you ask. A Christian Anarchist beloved you should live for the kingdom of God alone. A realist (most Catholics/Orthodox) believe in Symposia, the intertwining of church and state to hopefully improve the morality of the state. (St.) Paul said that the state was entrusted with the sword by God to enforce morality. Romans 13:4.
Reformed Christians generally support the “Two Kingdoms” view, the perfect kingdom of God within, the fallen kingdom of man without. Separation of church and state where Christians engage politically and hopefully moderate the state from performing evil acts.

>>520565460 (OP)
“And he changeth the times and the seasons: he removeth kings, and setteth up kings: he giveth wisdom unto the wise, and knowledge to them that know understanding:”

ie the voting, the wars, all that jazz is controlled by God.
Your government was put in place by God.
Does that mean they can do no wrong and are Holy? no.
It means God put them in place and will remove them at his least whim.
In the meanwhile don't break their gay laws and pay your gay little taxes.

>>520565460 (OP)
>What are the political implications of this?
There isn't a direct application to us at this point in time. If we are ever rightfully conquered, then we must submit to the rules and practice our Christianity within the system or flee. But we are not rightfully conquered. We are under tyrants. Rulers are not a terror to good works. Tyrants are a terror to good works.

>>520565460 (OP)
Christian retards missed the part where Peter demands everyone give him everything and hold nothing back. When two people break his rule , he has them killed. If this isn’t the mafia…I don’t know what is

>>520569043
Do not fall for glownigger divide & conquer tactics.

Christianity is the definition of "right wing" political ideology:
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left%E2%80%93right_political_spectrum#Origins_in_the_French_Revolution

Christianity has always been a racist religion:
>"Oh, race of Franks, race from across the mountains, race chosen and beloved [...]"
>"the kingdom of the Persians, an accursed race, a race utterly alienated from God [...]"
- https://www2.cbn.com/article/church/pope-urban-iis-speech-calling-first-crusade

The racist and anti-semitic Confederates have always been Christian.
The National Socialists used the Celtic cross and gave out iron cross medals for bravery. The white term for "swastika" is hakenkreuz, meaning hooked cross.
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hakenkreuzbanner

Here's a growing list of Christian political commentators who are racist and anti-semitic:
- https://rentry.org/Deus_Vult
Feel free to reply to this post with others.

Educate boomers irl. If you don't preach to them, the anti-Christian kikes will:
- https://news.antiwar.com/2025/10/06/israel-to-spend-up-to-4-1-million-in-propaganda-campaign-targeting-american-christians/
israeli nationalism ("zionism") is a heresy:
- https://youtu.be/GKlT-hhZXoM&t=658s
- https://youtu.be/odNoExd8a5U
- https://youtu.be/rp92-3aBL-A
The "holocaust" (burnt offering) is a lie made up by kikes, both soviet and freemason:
- https://rumble.com/c/ScriptureandTraditionFrJM/videos
Boycott israeli products:
- https://bdsmovement.net

Common glownigger talking points:
>"jesus is a kike"
The word "kike" comes from "kikel", which means circle. The kikes hate the cross so much, they would sign documents with a circle, hence the nickname.
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plus_and_minus_signs#Alternative_plus_sign
>"off topic"
Reminder the pope is the monarch of a country. In fact in many white nations there is no separation between church and state.

>>520569227
> don’t fall for glownigger tactics.

Address why Peter tells his followers to relinquish their possessions to him and then has them killed when they break his command.
I think it’s obvious, it’s a dangerous cult, a death cult filled with pedophiles.
My wife’s father a “devout Catholic” chased little oriental girls for as long as I knew him and I would just say I would not trust him around my kids.
His brother a Catholic priest …killed himself after being implicated in scandal involving his “interaction” with a child.

>>520565460 (OP)
Christianity was the I AM doctrine veiled for the piscean age, a judeo-masonic concoction, specifically Jupiter and the Sun in Pisces. Islam was Venus in Pisces. For the aquarian age the I AM doctrine will be veiled under the guise of AI and other technological creations.

Jesus = Je suis = Jeshua = Yah Weh = Jove = Jupiter = Zeus = Deus = I AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZftML6pAv7E

Look, just pay your phone bill

>>520565460 (OP)
Why does god need 10% of my money?

>>520565460 (OP)
fuck your falsegod and this vile world its created
there is no omnipotent god
only energy

>>520569708
>expecting a reply from a bot

>>520571780
>fuck your falsegod and this vile world its created
Huh? The Bible says Satan is the god of this world.
Satan even offered Jesus the world and Jesus refused.
Jesus said "My kingdom is not of this world."

>>520565641
What a surprise that Grok was fooled just as the Pharisees were. Christ's words are very specific, he never specifically says what does belong to Caesar.

>Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s; and unto God the things that are God’s.

Obviously the Heavens & Earth are both exclusively God's, created for all his children.

>>520566390
>(St.) Paul said that the state was entrusted with the sword by God to enforce morality.
This is another extremely common misreading of the careful language used in the gospels. Romans 13 does not grant authority to the state, it does the exact opposite. Everything you need to know is in the very first line:

>Romans 13:1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.

"For there is no power but of God", but earthly government is installed by man. God did not grant Donald Trump or Mark Carney power, nor their lieutenants in the police, courts and armies. Christ specifically tells us we cannot serve two masters, and that we must only serve God. Therefore, the authority of the state is invalid.

>>520566583
>Your government was put in place by God.
What an insane thing to post. The fruits of our governments are slavery, death and hatred.

>Matthew 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

How could a government that approves of murder, abortion, suicide, perversion etc. possibly be of God? These fruits are poison, they can only come from a poisoned tree.

Ay Tone, why's part 'o my wages belong to fuckin' Caesar in the first place

>>520565460 (OP)
who is caesar today?

>>520565460 (OP)
Jesus wasn't even a real person, dummy

>pic related

>>520565641
>paying taxes without endorsing Roman divinity or tyranny.

Truly the spirit of christcuckery.
>yeah I give money to them but also I (mildly) disagree with their policies

>>520575714
This

>>520575714
>>520576255

>>520576900
>Worships a literal Jew as his personal Lord and Saviour
>Calls everyone else a scheming kike