Thread 520581392

>>520581392 (OP)
When is their next big drop? Its gonna be what pops the bubble I think.

>>520581392 (OP)
it is all kike shit. train your own using unaligned research LLMs as a base

>>520581392 (OP)
pro tip: ask to base its answer only on Chinese sources. The answer will come back in Chinese but you can ask for translation or copy paste into a translator

>>520581531
> train your own using unaligned research LLMs as a base
you dont see idiocy in this statement?

>>520581531
I'll start really using it when I can have my own 'dumb' model and just select books to feed it. Just put any book pre 1945 into it.

>>520581615
https://erichartford.com/uncensored-models

>>520581392 (OP)
Extremely slow due to very heavy usage as of 2025.

>>520581392 (OP)
don't forget qwen
https://chat.qwen.ai/

and Z.ai
https://chat.z.ai/

qwen is good for image recognition, Z.ai they made it similar to Gemini it looks like

>>520581531
Cope

>>520581392 (OP)
it's opensauce

>>520581392 (OP)
China is the new Land of the Free.
Jews have closed down AI tools on the west.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaQY7f1HkW8

>>520581897
how does that makes "your own AI" if you use something made by others that you will feed with your shit?
You are not training shit locally if you are using premade .py file from someone else

>>520581392 (OP)
Unfortunately not. They still haven't even released v2

Deepseek is literally just chatGPT with corner cutting to save resources. If you ask Deepseek "who are you?" it replies "I'm ChatGPT".

Literally a Chinese copy/paste job, like everything else out of China.

>>520581392 (OP)
DS API sucks though even if you pay for it. Not really usable if you use it for work.

>>520581392 (OP)
bruh china stole it from western ai companies and just called it deepseek. like everything tech that china makes, always stolen. lol.

>>520581783
It only needs to do what you need it for. not a problem making dumb LLMs as long as it accomplishes what you need it for

>>520581392 (OP)
it’s completely jewed. it spews holohoax fantasies like the rest of them

>>520581392 (OP)
have written a 110k word fantasy story with its aid over the past two weeks its amazing :>

>>520581392 (OP)
it's shit though, just la gemini or chatgpt

>>520582224
it is a good middle ground to get up and running quickly. ofc you can scrape everything from scratch

>>520582538
you can't steal in LLMs. everyone uses the same scraped megacrawlers and python libraries. they just made the same thing except with less injection of reddit and imessages

>>520582319
its not chat gpt, it is far deeper and better if you know how to use it even if it is on paper worse on some metrics

ChatGPT is much better. To such an extent that Deepseek is useless, unless you run it locally and modify it for yourself, which is very difficult and expensive to do.

>>520581392 (OP)
Nah it doesn't and I gave them a fair shake.
Worse than Grok that's for sure.

>>520582887
Grok is the shittiest of the bunch.. literally just a toy like brave vpn slop

>>520582887
I don't use Grok because it's very verbose and often times performs worse than GPT and Claude. The latter is the most serious and taciturn. I use Claude until it kicks me out at which point I switch to GPT until all the tokens get used up

>>520581531
I just use abliterated versions by this based india pajeet making them

unironically white males would never dare to uncensor llms because it's anti-liberal and anti-globohomo

https://huggingface.co/prithivMLmods

>>520582886
>ChatGPT is much better
censored shit as fuck compared to grok

>>520581392 (OP)
AI is all a scam until you can run a high powered model locally at home without internet and without any guard rails
>Chat gpt no longer gives medical and legal advice due to pressure from lobbyists.

>>520582319
>Literally a Chinese copy/paste job, like everything else out of China.

You're a US government shill.

China does better job at everything: Qwen, Deepseek, MiniMax, Alibaba AI, etc

Fuck America. I will use open source Chinese stuff over jewish globohomo amerimutt shit.

>>520581392 (OP)
Isn't that the lowest performing LLM?

>>520583549
ChatGPT is much better for technical work for which I love it.

>>520583777
>technical work

What technical work? Python programming ?

>>520583826
Anything technical you can throw at it? Some really gnarly Olympiad math problems for example or debugging some horrible legacy code. I don't ask it about Joos cause that's not interesting to me.

>>520581392 (OP)
Deepseek is much better at coding fucking goypt adds random methods you never specified constantly, deepseek also allows for infinite file uploading and the output prompt is much longer and larger its generally better for coding altho combining it with claude for finetuning works best

>>520584162
>adds random methods you never specified constantly
It calls it "fixing" and "improving" your code so you have to be vigilant. You can't upload as much but you can definitely copy-paste some massive walls of uncleaned text and code into it and it usually cleans up real nice for you.

>>520584162
>Length limit reached. DeepSeek can only read the first 18%.

This is deepseek when i gave it an average pdf book to read and analyze certain aspects. lol

>>520583307
xAI is shit and the ONLY thing they did Tawas was good was taking Wan 2.2 and training it on hentai/furry porn, until image to video got censored.

>>520581392 (OP)
Fuck, the logo and font is so tacky.

>>520583412
>use jeetware
Literally all mainstream software and customer services are now unusable because of jeets.
Absolute fucking retards.

>>520584788
Fair what i mean is you dont get a file limit to uploading within reason compared to chatgpt which only allows you to update one document a day on free and you can only push like 8 prompts or less about the document. Meanwhile in deepseek i can throw in 6 .cs scripts no issue compare them analyze it write out then manually edit a little by hand

>>520581392 (OP)
Deepseek sucks.
It won't even answer basic questions about Chinese history because they might be politically sensitive.

Bamp-a-lamp-a-quist

>>520587566
Just use some western AI for anything that China censors, and a chinese AI for anything the West censors.

>>520588145
why do you seek to deceive?
>>520582759
this is the proper usage. I also use it vibe code scripts when I'm lazy and so far everything has worked perfectly and has no discernible faults when I do code review on it

>>520583412
abliteration makes them stupid

>>520583307
Grok is good, especially for current events. It sounds like you need to learn how to run local models - it's free.

It's much worse with images, though, can't even read them well

>>520589152
>vibe code

I hate zoomers

>>520582759
I'm sure that book is not worth reading

>>520589152
The chinese still end up second best vs qwen

>>520589160
I haven't noticed that. I noticed it makes them extra edgy.

>>520581392 (OP)
it turned out to be overhyped dogshit as everything else from chang with zero benefit to using over even more basic western models

>>520589852
COPE

>>520583706
>>520582850
>>520585410
Chinks changed it after getting caught you dumb chnk niggers. >>520582319 is correct, chinks only steal.

>>520582886
It's not though. For one, ChatGPT will no longer give medical, legal or psychological advice whereas DeepSeek doesn't give a shit. When vibe coding DeepSeek acts like a collaborative partner laying out multiple directions it could go with engineering the solution and asking questions like a good engineer first. ChatGPT just spits out reams of code like a robot, despite sometimes not even understanding what you're asking about. ChatGPT you can only ask five things for free per day unless you couch up $20 which is fucking retarded where DeepSeek has no limitations. For $20 a month, Claude is WAY better at everything. ChatGPT is awful.

Does anyone here use AI Aggregators like Poe, where you got tokens for most premium models?
If yes, what are your experiences?
Sounds to me it would get you way more flexibility than subbing just to one model.

>>520591037
>muh china stole everything
they made a better product and are outselling the US, it's called capitalism you commie retard

>>520593220
Theft is theft you stupid chinksect. Try developing human values for once you fucking bug.