Thread 520630857

No one here ever debunked this movie.

it debunked itself

in the shower scene, water came out of the shower head

You can't debunk a fairy tale. You might as well tell someone to debunk rapunzel or snow white.

>THE BOOK
• Based on a novel, "Schindler's Ark" (1982) -- a work of FICTION, penned by the Australian novelist, Thomas Keneally

• The source material for the book was acquired by happenstance, in the early late 70s / early 80s, via a leather goods salesman in Hollywood, Poldek Pfefferberg (crypto name: "Leopold Page")
>Pfefferberg was a "Kapo" (concentration camp policeman) from Kraków -- the setting of the film

• Pfefferberg had already offered the material to MGM (Yiddish aphorism: "Meyn Ganste Mishpacha" / "My Whole Family") in the 70s, who. ironically enough, weren't interested
>$hoah business hadn't gotten into full swing until the Irgun terrorist who fought against the British, and the sixth prime minister of "Israel", Menachem "Palestinians are Beasts with Two Legs" Begin undertook a "Holocaust Tour", after the Six-Day sneak attack and Yom Kippur wars of the 60s and 70s began driving negative sentiments for the state of Israel
>some attribute the vernacular, "Holocaust" as it's been associated with WWII Jews, to Begin; as well as the fantastical furphy of "Jews building the Egyptian pyramids"

• When the book was released, all of its prints were clearly labelled "FICTION"
>not a single print of the book AFTER Spielberg's film any longer displayed the "fiction" advisory

• Jewish lobby groups forced the name change from "Schindler's ARK", because they did not want the appertaining, fabled biblical character to be associated with a "goy"

>THE FILM
• Keneally did not want Spielberg to direct the film adaptation
>Spielberg sacked Keneally as script-writer

• The titular character, Oscar Schindler (Liam Neeson) was a German industrialist who, by all accounts, was a man of rather detestable character
>the very opposite of sympathetic saviour depicted by Spielberg and, indeed, the characterisation that a tree was planted planted to commemorate, in Israel's "Alley of Righteous Gentiles (Among Nations)"

• According to his wife, Emilie Schindler, her husband was no angel, and her opinion on the film was less than endearing: "It (the film) is not good; it is fiction. The best thing you can do with it is wipe your bottom [...] The film is not right -- it's not the true story." (Emilie Schindler)
>in interviews, she was never observed referring to her husband by his given name; when a mic was put in front of the wheelchair-bound woman at the "Schindler Oscars" (1994; seven awards), Spielberg camera bombed and hastily interjected with a discursive spiel about how wonderful a woman she was

• A camp inmate of the Kraków-Płaszów camp, who smuggled out film footage from inside the camp, offered this invaluable insight to Spielberg, and was ignored by the director
>after all, why would a work of fiction need documented reference material?

• Contemporaneous orders by Himmler to minimise camp inmate deaths -- so that they'd could be used as labourers in the war effort -- is not referred to in the film

• The Germans executed their own camp guards, on charges of cruelty, corruption, and murder -- as the SS did to the commandant of Buchenwald, and Göth himself was slated for, until he managed to escape in the chaos of the German withdrawal
>"Those facts subvert the entire premise of the movie." (Alan Critchley, historian)

• Israeli historian, Tom Segev dubbed the film, "Holocaust Park: Spielberg trying to trick his audience into believing that the film is a documentary"

>>520632223
>You can't debunk a fairy tale
this is why people are still religious. you can't debunk nonsense

Even before I was redpilled I always thought this movie was so cringe and gay. Shooting it in black and white for starters is so pretentious.

>THE SCENES
• The camp inmate composition was approximately 50-50 Jew-Pols -- the film implies that's it's an all-Jewish camp

• The infamous scene of the corrupt camp commandant, Hermann Göth (Ralph Fiennes) shooting inmates with a sniper rifle, was not only fiction, it was also a blooper on Spielberg's part: the commandant's villas was not located above the camp, as Spielberg placed it -- rather, below it -- making sniping into the camp obviously impossible
>Spielberg also said that said officer would "shoot people from his toilet seat, for the 'crime' of walking past his toiler window"; yet, in the film, the window he refers to is located far too high in the cubical, to be used as a sniper perch... even aside from the villa-camp location discrepancy

• The scene of Schindler and his accountant, Yitzhak Stern (Ben Kingsley) feverishly working through the night in order to compile "the list", never actually happened -- Göth and the Kapoes decided who would be on the German slave labourist's list
>in-keeping with the "shyster merchant" stereotype, the Jewish Kapoes demanded precious gold and gems for a ticket out -- "If you want to get on the list, you give me gold or diamonds, or you stay here"

• Schindler offering diamonds for freeing hundreds of women, was a fabrication -- a younger, "promiscuous" German friend of Schindler's wife, was responsible getting the women out; a feat she accomplished by sleeping with the officers in the Auschwitz camp
>ironically, a woman who, together with her father, were members of the Nazi Party

>THE PSY-OP
• Children were shown this patently adults-only film, which contained allusions to and depictions of violence, rape, murder, and genocide -- many of them brought to tears from the traumatic scenes which they were confronted with
>after the "Cave of Patriarchs Massacre" in 1994 -- a mass shooting inside a mosque in Palestine, undertaken by the Israeli settler zealot, Baruch Goldstein, killing 29 and injuring 125 -- to which event, the [Jewish] Israeli youth began asking ominous question about the fascist ideology of Zionism, Spielberg was summoned to Israel and ordered to conduct a "Schindler's Tour", playing his film throughout Israeli schools

• The film was admittedly, deliberately, and explicitly created in a manner that would make it more easily confused with depictions of real-life occurrences, than the fiction that it was actually predicated upon
>"I want to portray the events more from a journalistic viewpoint. The use of black and white, and the hand held camera creates a documentary effect. Moreover, we set ourselves the aim that, in a few years' time, nobody would be able to tell when the film was made." (Janusz Kamiński, cinematographer)

• The neologism "faction" (i. e., a portmanteau of "fact" and "fiction") was coined (?) and bandied about at the time, in direct reference to Spielberg's film

• Tellingly, in a 1994 interview, Spielberg stated that before he undertook making the film, he did not know what race / ethnicity he belonged to -- "I never really had a sense of my own heritage... my own race"
>demonstrative of how the "Holocaust narrative" has been turned into a veritable religion for all Jews -- especially, otherwise non-religious, secular Jews -- and used as a pretext for solidifying their otherwise disparate ranks, and rallying them whenever any of their ranks are placed under scrutiny

>>520632153
came to post. we didn't need to debunk it because it told the truth

lol

>ACTORS
• Elis Wiesel, the author of the book, "Night" (1961) -- in which he told tales of purportedly being in Auschwitz -- kicked of the Hollohoax industry
>according to the official foremost scholar on the subject matter, and head of the Holocaust museum in Washington, said that the tales he told of what occurred in the camp, could not have
>at most, Wiesel was "marched past" the Auschwitz labour camps

• "It wasn't a lie -- it was my imagination; and in my imagination -- in my mind -- I believed it... Even now, I believe it."
>Herman Rosenblat, Holocaust 'survivor' shyster, who claimed that a Jewess who "threw him apples" over the fence, while he was in the camps, and later become his wife after a "chance meeting on a blind date in New York" -- all a lie

• "Things are not that simple, Rebbe. Some events do take place; but, are not true. Others are [true]; though, they never occurred."
>Elie Wiesel

https://www.altcensored.com/watch?v=tJC7JEcr-vE

bhutt, bhutt, there is prooof!
the phones, look at all the phones!
jooos, always comical

>>520630857 (OP)
The author did. He put in the front of the book that it was a work of fiction.

>>520633865
They clearly have a thing for shoes, and given that their lower castes were once synonymous for being cobblers*, it does reconcile as something that they would use as a mnemonic device...
>*when not acting, Daniel Day-Lewis is a cobbler

https://www.counterextremism.com/blog/we-will-dance-again-remembering-horrors-october-7-powerful-new-exhibition

>>520630857 (OP)

The American Library Association (ALA) classifies Schindler's List, through the Dewey Decimal System, as a work of Fiction.

>>520633972
Only up until 1991, when "FICTION" curiously disappeared from the book's cover... Ironically enough, given that the book, albeit a work of fiction, was still more 'factual' than the film that prompted the label disclaimer's removal!

>be useful idiot, Spielberg
>make said infamous, based on a true lies film
>Cave of Patriarchs Massacre (1994) happens -- Zio kike "Tarrants" a mosque (20+ dead; 100+ injured)
>be summoned to Israel
>told to conduct "Schindler's tour" across country, to counter younger kikes getting red pilled to the perils of Zionism...
Kikes themselves are more psy-op'd than gentiles are, and for the simple reason that it is an imperative that a kike feels that they are the eternal victim, or else the whole shit show collapses from the inside out.

>>520632153
Spielberg fucked up a lot of the lies because he himself, by his own admission, wasn't a part of "The Tribe" until the film served as his right of passage.

>claiming that Göth sniped kikes from his shitter, for (Spielberg) "for the 'crime' of walking past"
>meanwhile, the shitter window he speaks of, in his film, was located well above the height that would have allowed for sniping kikes while (Spielberg) "sitting on the toilet"

Not a single Jew was killed in a Holocaust.

>>520635269
hey!
cool it with the antismegmatism, eh!

>>520630857 (OP)
does not have to be debunked
it's in the title
swindler's list
what do you not compute?

>>520632937
>Shooting it in black and white for starters is so pretentious.
They did it to conflate fiction with reality, to dupe the gormless goyim who were bred to believe that Hollywood was history teacher:

>"Holocaust Park: Spielberg trying to trick his audience into believing that the film is a documentary"
~ Tom Segev (Israeli historian)
>"I want to portray the events more from a journalistic viewpoint. The use of black and white, and the hand held camera creates a documentary effect. Moreover, we set ourselves the aim that, in a few years' time, nobody would be able to tell when the film was made."
~ Janusz Kamiński (Schindler's List cinematographer)

>>520634682
>Kikes themselves are more psy-op'd than gentiles are
Absolutely. This was perfectly illustrated by an Israeli documentarian that made "Defamation." Absolutely based Israeli grandma calls American Jews lazy fucks in the beginning of the film. Filmmaker also shows how Israeli teens are brainwashed in classrooms and with a visit to Auschwitz.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTAjc1OSrmY

>>520630857 (OP)
I just did. Consider it deboonked.

>>520630857 (OP)
it doesn't have to be "debunked", it was a novel from the start, a literary invention, not an history book

The real name of this movie is
>Schindler's Lisp
Nazi records indicate that Schindler was an effeminate jewish faggot who spoke straight out of his giant jew beak.

>>520630857 (OP)
Well it's a work of fiction, so....

The part when he's racking his slide over and over again when trying to shoot some jew without any bullet coming out.
Also, he then, somehow, just decide to not kill the kike, just beat him a bit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-yLk8SZAJY

Turns out it's actually TWO different autoloader pistols

>>520635446
> if jews are White, all accusations of White supremacy are also anti-semitic
That's not how logic works.
Stick with /pol/ holohoax razor, that one is flawless morally and logically.

>>520630857 (OP)
Color was invented in 1902.

>>520630857 (OP)
>Based on a work of historical fiction

>>520634682
do you have any source on the claim, that Spielberg sent to Israel in order to brainwash Israeli children? I find that interesting.

>>520630857 (OP)
Oscar Schindler isn't real and neither was anything that happened in that movie.

>>520630857 (OP)
No jew ever talks about the masturbation machines.

>>520639581
I get a lot of blank looks on the occasions that I tell people about that, the electric floors, the bear/eagle cage, etc.

>>520632996
>Hermann Göth
>amon göth*

now whatever else you said is qestionable. french retard

>>520630857 (OP)
It says its a work of fiction. What is there to debunk? Did you also need inglorious bastards debunked?

A movie isn't reality.

>>520635832
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTAjc1OSrmY

A very worthwhile watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfEPvGnhgTg

>>520639581
Actually, few even KNOW about those outlandish tales. I've brought up the Holobunga industry, "survivor" shysters, Wiesel's lies, the Anne Frank fable, Nuremberg and the forever lost "skin lampshades" etc., to Jews I know (boomers), and they seem genuinely oblivious to all of it*. I also suspect that this is relatively consistent across most kikes who aren't in on the hoax themselves... Their first response to citing a lie in Schindler's List is, "it's real".

They're not so good at acting as to all be in on it. From my nigh on 30 years experience with them, outside of Harvard, the "high I. Q. Jew" seems as stupid a meme as "skilled worker Indian" and "assimilating Moslem" are. Most of those who are rich get their either via the money-changing, the "Jewish dollar", nepotism, scams, or crime, or via Israel.

>>520630857 (OP)
You don't "debunk" mainstream Spielberg slop.
You ignore mainstream Spielberg slop.
Just because he's a somewhat competent director, that doesn't make him an artist.
But, hey, at least he's not Nolan.

>>520641621
Hence, presenting it as such is disingenuous; and when done so to children, is child abuse.

>>520643167
Jews only care about narrative.
Facts are either convenient or inconvenient.
The story being told is all that matters.
And even then, only in the moment.
As in, as the sentence is being said or written.
If they need you to think something else, that negates the previous sentence, then so be it!
They will contradict themselves from sentence to sentence.
All that matters is the narrative.

>>520632690
thank you for ending it in a high note
i don't care if the holocaust was real or not, that shit should not be smeared on beautiful words like "ark"
even a broken clock is right twice a day

>>520635153
ja, there are other things too, from subtle to obvious

e.g. like Schindler is only told they are burning Jews, as if it's an urban legend, he never witnesses anything... and even if he did, they could have died of typhoid fever "with holocaust", not "because holocaust" (like people dying "with covid" versus "because covid")... n'est ce pa?

I could write a 20 page thesis motivating why Spielberg was a holocaust-denying antisemite
yet i'd prefer not to...

>>520643167
>Most of those who are rich get their either via
the same way gypsies and gangster niggers do. End of story.
That's why they did the French Revolution, Napoleon, WW1, WW2. So they can do it on an industrial scale.

>>520630857 (OP)
>based on a book that won an award for fiction
burn yourself alive, dumb kike

>>520630857 (OP)
it debunked itself on the first page of the book shlomo