Thread 520717137

Also it doesn't appear to have been in Babylon, according to many myths it was located to the east of Colchis, which is more or less where Sochi is now.

>>520717137 (OP)
metaphor

>>520717276
>Common motifs in myths are metaphors
Yawn how boring. Why even contribute? Read Tesla and the Pyramid

>>520717354

Explain it to me like I'm racist

>>520717137 (OP)
Literally zero evidence. Prove it.

It's still there.

>zero evidence
All the cultures in the area attest to the historicity of the Tower as well as Noah's Ark. Herodotus talked about both existing according to trustworthy sources known to him, for instance.

>>520717276
>metaphor
Hmm.. Interesting.

>>520717725
>Noah's ark
Not one of those flood stories are with an ark... Except the one in India. And all flood stories are localized floods. There was no word for the planet earth and there was no writings that said the planet earth was dipped into a fish bowl of water and killed everything but a boat.


FLOODS ARE A NORMAL CONDITION OF HUMAN LIFE and will appear in human stories. This does not "confirm the bible". Expecially since the bible is a gumbo of stolen stories from the empires that surrounded Judea.

>>520717725
Where is the Ark?

>>520717137 (OP)
I think they got like 40 stories before they fucked up.

>>520717137 (OP)
its real but it aint built by arabs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5nFMFvG9SE&t=506s

>>520717137 (OP)
>Do you think it was real?
Of course

>>520717137 (OP)
Of course it was real. It was in Genesis.

>>520717503

God created niggers, Spics, and chinks out of spite

>>520717137 (OP)
I believe the tower symbolizes something other than a mere building, this is a historical, metaphorical, retelling of the first globohomo

>>520717960
Stolen stories?....I don't think you understand what the point of a story is.

everything is so fucking boring today
why is it that God only did all these great things in the past?
clearly the people that God separated are all talking to each other again.
so why doesn't he care now?

Oh ffs don’t be silly you daft poo.
>I can’t find my keys
>therefore my keys are not in this house
yet you just happen to be sitting on them talking shite.

>>520718089
Wow that's retard looking.

>>520717137 (OP)
Just as real as the pyramids

>>520717137 (OP)
Etemenanki ziggurat, Iraq

>>520718002
Could be at the Drupinar Site, could be at a mountain by Iran in eastern Iraq (where the ark in the Sumerian flood myth came to rest) and a third possible site is elsewhere in Armenia, not super far from Lake Van.

>>520718234
Space elevator perhaps.

>>520718275
the people who God separated are not only talking to each other again, they are fucking, marrying, and having mixed babies with each other
but God is just like, eh, I don't care anymore.

>Not one of those flood stories are with an ark... Except the one in India.
That's just ignorant. Sumerians had a flood myth with two people who survived on a boat. Chinese did. Indians did. Celtic people. Even the Greeks with Deucalion, who rode out the flood in a wooden chest lol.

You're just stupid, you need better debunking skills. This is hardly professional.

>>520718655
Man I honestly hoped and believed for years that all the space elevator fags got vaxx’d to death.

You should kill yourself. I’m going to go drink so I can forget some of you survived.

>>520719061
someone built an ark in Kentucky

>Etemenanki
Interesting... I've been reading the newly translated texts at aicuneiform.com and some Assyrian king mentions mucking out and restoring the thing. He said the pavement (foundation) was from before the deluge too which is interesting.

>>520717137 (OP)
No, there would have been some ruins or other traces of its existence.

>>520719229
they were just called
>elam
or
>elamites

>>520717137 (OP)
So, what you need to realise is that almost every myth and religion are actually the same story. You discover this by comparative mythology studies, and going through the archetypes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enmerkar_and_the_Lord_of_Aratta

This link is a Sumerian story. Meaning 4000 BC or over 6kya.

In a golden age Nudimud, who is also Ea/Enki and has other names during this time, cast a spell to make manking no longer speak the same language. There are other examples.

If you took a month and really skimmed ( seriously, just skim them ) as many myths as you could, you can pull a historical story out of the crap they feed us by seeing the commonalities that passed the test of time, or are used by other cultures and races.

Even the Chinese and the Mayans have essentially the same divine rigjt to rule myth by being the descendants of those taught by advanced other people from the ocean or underworld or space.

The tower of Babel story is just a load of bullshit and woven in propaganda, but within all the BS is a real story

>>520718089
>plan

>>520717960
What? An ark is just a boat. Almost all of them have a boat. Even Berglemir the fuckin jotungiantfucker jumped in a bread basket. Ziusudra Utnapishtim Atra-Hasis Adapa Deucalion Noah all have arks

>>520717276
The moral of the story is that God hates tall buildings so he invented racism

>>520717137 (OP)
I take everything that's in the old testament with a grain of kosher salt.

>>520718647
Etamen- house An-heaven Ki- Earth. The house of heaven and earth. Theres a dude named emenduranki too . He was an antidiluvian king he ruled for 28k years or something

>>520717503
Like all civilizations, jews wrecked it.

>>520719285
Nah this was later, thousands of years later, when it was restored. I haven't run across any mentions of a tower in older cuneiform texts yet. Not to say it isn't there, perhaps I need to search for more general terms like temple or perhaps searching for altar would lead me to a better clue. At some point say 3000BC or so you hit a wall and there's very little in the corpus that's that old or older, excepting lists of goods and debts and such.

>>520720201
so you don't have any proof, is what you're saying?

>>520717276
>>520717137 (OP)
It was real, that boomer faggot with the history podcast did an episode on it.

>>520720272
Proof of what? The Tower of Babel's existence? There's a ziggurat there, that's certain. But is it the Tower of Babel? That's conjectural. Herodotus's account of it is second hand and we don't know for sure that the Tower of Babel was even IN Babylon, as I said before there are stories about it being quite far away, east of Colchis even.

It is quite natural to connect a ziggurat in Babylon with the Tower of Babel, but the stories from truly older times do not place it there and traditions about its location being elsewhere but always east were kept alive into historical times and recorded.

In the Armenian account the Tower was located within the domain of Eden but far in the east of it. Which could even point to India. The Ganges being the eastern border of Eden, in Genesis.

>>520720201
There was no actual tower. Thats just that specific peoples version for the part in the stories where the royals were tasked to spread across the earth and repopulate/rebuild.

But Nudimuds incantation or Ea's incantation also has the languages of each area being confused.

"Atlantis" wasnt some city that sunk. Even in the story its an empire with 10 kingdoms working as one. The whole world all around and from pole to pole is/was ruled by one empire who decided it was best to rule from the shadows.

Theres no tower

>>520719309
>divine right to rule
Damn it must have been so unimaginably satisfying going to sleep as a Brit in Victoria’s reign, knowing the sun literally never set on your empire and all these cocky faggots with their giant temples and ten thousand year histories were utterly btfo and humiliated by a tiny island with no significant resources because your very average human sensibilities demanded you explore and build shit out of wood and iron.

>If you took a month and really skimmed ( seriously, just skim them ) as many myths as you could, you can pull a historical story out of the crap they feed us by seeing the commonalities that passed the test of time, or are used by other cultures and races.
Some guy did this 200 years ago, read his book Anacalypsis.

>>520719374
>What? An ark is just a boat. Almost all of them have a boat.
It's not just a boat you sneaky little worm. It's an arch that held ALL THE CREATURES TWO BY TWO ON EARTH.

Also "most of dem have boats" is not true.

>>520718237
>Stolen stories?....I don't think you understand what the point of a story is.
The point of the bible is a historical account of the Judean people and their ancestors but what we get is a stone soup of stories from other cultures that were real. The cultures that ruled over them
>Persian Zoroastrianism
>Hellenism
>Khem (egyptian)
>Pheonician-Cannanite
= Old Testament that first appears in 200's BCE written in Greek because "Hebrew" never existed and was constructed as a language in the 1800s AD.
The "paleo-hebrew" is just Cannanite Pheonician or Aramaic (Persian).

You're a fucking sneaky worm too, "point of A story". fucking hell.

>>520717137 (OP)
It was a space elevator, ionosphere discharged into it, effectively vaporizing the structure in what was probably the biggest electric arc that ever occurred on this planet (arc between the heaven and the ground).
The event itself was cataclysmic, but the aftermath was even more problematic.
A discharge of this magnitude wasn't supposed to occur naturally, so there was a lot of climate instabilities and environmental problem for centuries after the incident.

Anyway I contend there could have been a tower. Pre-deluge civilizations may be much more advanced than we think, the Sphinx for example seems to be much older than the pyramids. Gobekli Tepe which has iconography common to Egypt thousands of years later, indicates maybe there's a lot more buried under 50 feet of alluviua.

Too early to call it but I'm going to say yes, there was some prototypical tower in such ancient times that it is in the mists of proto-history or even far back into prehistory.

>>520721097
More advanced than we think? Sure. Much more advanced? We'd have found way more archaeological evidence if an industrial civilization existed 10,000 years ago.

>>520720901
Nah. There's hundreds of religions where theres a good and bad side and the earth is destroyed in a flood and someone is saved. In a boat.

You're clearly a sheep

>>520720859
I'll check it out ty

>Old Testament that first appears in 200's BCE written in Greek
There are much older attestations of Moses and his people. Not very flattering ones though. Cory's Ancient Fragments has them.

>>520720805
Yeah buddy. I think their family still rules. Even in Russia they're all French and Germanic plutocrats. They dont even change their flags and symbols

>>520720859
Sick
https://ia601301.us.archive.org/3/items/anacalypsisattem01higg/anacalypsisattem01higg.pdf

>>520717137 (OP)
The Bible has one Language splitting into many but that is not how language works what actually happen was there were many languages that became one or what we know as the Akkadian language; so the opposite occured.

>>520721621
Thats what you see from 4500BC going forward. Or not even. But my point is, you're only getting whats available through etymology and old texts. Our whole story for all of humanity's existence is a tiny fraction and filled with metaphors and occulted shit we arent taught

>>520721327
>There's hundreds of religions where theres a good and bad side and the earth is destroyed in a flood
Zero

Not ONE story says this. Not even the bible because the word "erets" always refers to land not planet. There was no ancient word for planet earth and no concept. Floods destroyed everything they knew but the world was the universe back then. And your land was your earth. People will fall for anything before reading the books they worship.

>>520718647
Shove your piled rocks up your ass nigger!!!

>>520722087
The Sumerian word for the planet earth is Ki

>>520718234
Yes. It could be both, a real building that then later got referenced as a metaphor. Globohomo is indeed bad.

>>520718703
>God is just like, eh, I don't care anymore.
We don't know what we don't know.

>>520723240
Right you stupid monkey.
You can only “know” what is what when you finally pass the bill and read what is in it.

>>520722222
>The Sumerian word for the planet earth is Ki
No Wiki-moron. There is no word for PLANET earth. Earth in english can also mean ground.

It means "Place" or "land"
>ki-g̃a ("at mine", literally "at my place").
>ki-e-ne-di ("playing ground"

>>520717137 (OP)
the think they know where it was. it was a ziggurat though. mesopatamia is where civilization began after the flood 4,400 years ago. or probably the stone ziggurat was the foundation and there was wooden structures built ontop of it.

>>520723401
>There is no word for PLANET earth.
that's not what he said, khazar

>>520720859
Now, that's some slack.

>>520717137 (OP)
>how do we explain what happened before we had language?

>>520723742
they had a language, a single language, that the people at that time all knew - but God "confused them" by forcing them all to speak different languages so they couldn't cooperate to finish the tower

this is basic knowledge

>>520718089
How a jesus picture and shimizu landed on my phone, a clould now looking like smoke raising from a flail of Jesuses money changer flail.

Ive had strange premonitions om the structure. Like in the early 2100s its as much a battleship as an archology. They managed to miniturize and digitize themsepves and forcibly convert prisoners to reduce the carbon footprint by several magnitudes by transhuman modification.

They captured my decendents, my daughters, said their boobs could feed severap hundred million shimizuans, and turned them into their optimal role, an anime fairy dildo

>>520723609
He means that they didn't know earth was a planet.

>>520724982
you oughta be ashamed

the internet is the tower of babel

Noah's flood is the inundation of the Mediterranean Noah's people are the whites and browns between the Caspian, Sahara and the Atlantic.

>>520725413
That's retarded.

>>520725453
>the internet is the tower of babel

>what is google translate
plz

>>520725528
explain why smart guy

>>520724982
>He means that they didn't know earth was a planet.

>>520725528
>That's retarded.

>>520725413
>you oughta be ashamed

It was real, it was something we call nowadays the Great Ziggurat of Ur and the jew tale is based on their slave work when restoring it under Neo Babylonian rule. Of course they made it a metaphorical tale but it is based on real stuff.
That's why mutts bombed the museums and the area nearby when they invaded Iraq, and also pillaged the art.

>>520717960
Chinese character for Flood is combo of characters for 8, People, and Boat. You can deny the supernatural aspects of the Bible story if you wish, but they all come from the same common source.

>>520725502
>Noah's flood is the inundation of the Mediterranean
All points out somewhere between the black sea and the caspian was the first area where modern hwites existed.

>>520725413
>you oughta be ashamed
They knew the earth was round, not that the earth was a planet. Look up at what planet means before acting like a smartass.

>>520717137 (OP)
Of course it was real. This happened roughly 4500 years ago

>>520725851
>They knew the earth was round, not that the earth was a planet.

>>520725651

>>520717137 (OP)
Does anybody notices the other towers of babel behind the big one in the foreground? I think it's Agartha. There's an amazing book called Of Beasts, Men, and Gods. It tells a story of this guy that started in Russian during the Red revolution and traveled south to Mongolia. The first half is a harrowing tale of survival on the outskirts between wilderness and civilization. At one point he is camping and has 2 bolshevik soldiers sit to eat with him. The threat is palpable. Then another man takes a meal. The man awakes the next day and the 3 men are gone, the traveler returns with the soldiers things, explains that he killed them before they could kill him.

The next part concerns the picture. He makes his way to Mongolia, and travels with the Dalai Lama and hears stories about the King of the World in the land of Agartha. It is described to look bioluminescent and to have great towers dotting along the civilization just like the tower of babel picture. Agartha is a subterannea kingdom with it's own biome. It is the great caverns within the earth the connect all continents. The King of the World sends thousands year old immortal tortoises out to learn our sciences, we write what we have learned on their shells and they return underground. They have a prophecy that states when the colored people take over the western world, the King will return.

>>520717137 (OP)
Most likely >>520717276.

But i like to write schizoid things, in ancient times what we call God monitored earth more closely he even gave jews a direct line to talk with him but they misused it and got banned, in thit scenario the tower allowed direct audience but was misused and God mind fucked us to speak different tongues so he had less inference in our stupid troubles... Eventually everything suggests he got so fed up that simply left and decided that no longer cares then hindsight is alone.

>>520725983
They believed that the planets were bright stars that revolved around the earth.

>>520725997
>I think it's Agartha
>Agartha is a legendary, subterranean kingdom said to exist in the Earth's interior

>babylon
>existing in the earth's interior

>>520726035
>They believed that the planets were bright stars that revolved around the earth.

i like how i keep giving proof of my argument and all you can do is give your opinion

>>520718002
Also in your head, "the ark of the covenant."

>>520717137 (OP)
Trump is a fan apparently.

>>520726077
Look up heliocentrism vs geocentrism. Heliocentrism was considered a fringe theory.

>>520726110
>>520718002
Unironically the ark is in maralago.

>>520725664
>Chinese character for Flood is combo of characters for 8, People, and Boat. You can deny the supernatural aspects
LOL!

It's basically the modern west. Everyone comes together from all over. Multiple cultures can't co-exist. Everything gets goes to shit and gets destroyed. People go back into their own cultures until someone unites them all again. Rinse & repeat.

>>520719061
So did the Egyptians, "Isis shut Osiris up in a bull of wood." It's called the argo

>>520718002
Also id
>pepe

>>520726186
>Look up
you look it up

>>520717960
>no flood
You've got a lot to learn fren. Start with Randall Carlson.

>>520726322
>In the 4th century BC Plato and his student Aristotle, wrote works based on the geocentric model.[citation needed] According to Plato, the Earth was a sphere, stationary at the center of the universe. The stars and planets were carried around the Earth on spheres or circles, arranged in the order (outwards from the center): Moon, Sun, Venus, Mercury, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, fixed stars, with the fixed stars located on the celestial sphere. In his "Myth of Er", a section of the Republic, Plato describes the cosmos as the Spindle of Necessity, attended by the Sirens and turned by the three Fates. Eudoxus of Cnidus, who worked with Plato, developed a less mythical, more mathematical explanation of the planets' motion based on Plato's dictum stating that all phenomena in the heavens can be explained with uniform circular motion. Aristotle elaborated on Eudoxus' system.
How can the earth be considered a planet and stationary at the same time, dumbass?

i used google translate last week and now i have a bad cold and a sore throat so there must be something in this

>>520717591
Yeah they don’t realize it’s not a metaphor much as it is a collection of ideas from man that have nothing to do with Gods plan and are merely vanity of man indulging in sin because of the knowledge of good and evil gives their contrasting ideas a veneer of clout.

These unsolvable problems are really just left over from God cursing man with entropy along with the universe. The purpose was to cordon or contain our cancerous behavior until God could put a lid on it with the gospel. Believing the gospel fixes you positionally, it doesn’t change the body to get you to stop sinning. The point was God doesn’t want man to die immediately for sinning so he has to constructively set up a system to teach man indirectly using the context that he shouldn’t find comfort in this world or himself given that he is spiritually corrupted with the knowledge of evil.

Which leads to the mystery of iniquity, Satan deliberately tempted Eve into it so he could rope both of them into a false spiritual dichotomy where the possibility of worshipping Satan was possible over God.

This is what makes the gospel necessary, as a direct consequence of knowing both good and evil, we erected government and religion to try and constrain ourselves, we can’t because we’re relying on a tainted well of morality sorttospeak

Satan intends on destroying and assimilating all the worlds cultures, religions and governments into one and can do it simply while pretending to be good while righting all of the self imposed issues man placed on himself as a result of Babylon.
Babylon is not the beast system, the beast moves to destroy it, and this is how Satan gets his “light-bearer” title. He intends on using religion as a cloak with the law to get you to think he’s Christ. In order to do this, he needs clownworld, and to get you properly gaslit and pissed off at Babylon so when he comes in and destroys it, you’ll fall for it.

Believe the gospel
1 Cor 15 1-4

>>520719433
based god
and wignats try telling me he isnt cool

>>520726376
>Adherence to the geocentric model stemmed largely from several important observations. First of all, if the Earth did move, then one ought to be able to observe the shifting of the fixed stars due to stellar parallax. Thus if the Earth was moving, the shapes of the constellations should change considerably over the course of a year. As they did not appear to move, either the stars are much farther away than the Sun and the planets than previously conceived, making their motion undetectable, or the Earth is not moving at all. Because the stars are actually much further away than Greek astronomers postulated (making angular movement extremely small), stellar parallax was not detected until the 19th century. Therefore, the Greeks chose the simpler of the two explanations. Another observation used in favor of the geocentric model at the time was the apparent consistency of Venus' luminosity, which implies that it is usually about the same distance from Earth, which in turn is more consistent with geocentrism than heliocentrism. (In fact, Venus' luminous consistency is due to any loss of light caused by its phases being compensated for by an increase in apparent size caused by its varying distance from Earth.) Objectors to heliocentrism noted that terrestrial bodies naturally tend to come to rest as near as possible to the center of the Earth. Further, barring the opportunity to fall closer the center, terrestrial bodies tend not to move unless forced by an outside object, or transformed to a different element by heat or moisture.

>>520726376
>How can the earth be considered a planet and stationary at the same time, dumbass?

how could your acient greek anestors name earth
>gaia
if they didn't know it was a planet, dumbass?
>>520725651

>>520726457
>First of all, if the Earth did move

INCREDIBLE

>>520726478
gaia = land/dirt

>Not even the bible because the word "erets" always refers to land not planet.
Our name Earth is literally the same today as it was in Hebrew or even Chaldaic 3000 years ago. Erets = Earth, it's the same word lol.

>>520726536
>they knew it was dirt
>they knew it was around
>they knew about planets
>but they DIDN'T think EARTH was a planet
just shut up already

>>520726598
>around
*round

>>520726176
>posting a photo of trump posing like nimrod in the famous babel tower painting makes you jewish
What do you think was implied by this and why does it make the person who shares it jewish? I'm curious

>>520726598
retard

>>520726685
>(((memeflag)))

>>520717137 (OP)
Wouldn't it be interesting if the Bible took place in the future and all these events haven't happened yet?

>>520726688
that doesn't say

>the ancient greeks DIDN'T believe earth was a planet

>>520726857
Read the last paragraph.

>>520726325
>You've got a lot to learn fren. Start with Randall Carlson.
Fucking low IQ druggy youtube scholar. KYS

>>520725664
>but they all come from the same common source
the human mind?

>>520726789
>if you dont share your geographic location youre jewish
Ok chief, that sounds like something a glowie would say. I think discrimination against memeflags is a glowie psy op.

>>520726885
>Read the last paragraph.
>in the modern sense

splitting hairs again huh canaanite?

>>520726935
>(((memeflag)))

>>520717137 (OP)
>mankind unites to challenge God
>God confuses their tongues and scatters them
Based God going God mode on those niggas

>>520726943
Here's some advice: If you want to flex Greek etymology to a native Greek speaker, study ancient Greek for a minimum of 2-3 years and maybe you won't embarrass yourself.

>>520717137 (OP)
What the fuck even is this posturing, it's obviously bronze age Jews seething about Etemnanki in Babylon. Like, DUH.

>>520717960
Are you retarded the found it a couple decades ago

>>520727196
Irish also have their own myths about the Tower of Babel. Irish is one of the very oldest languages, all the oldest ones have 16 or 17 letters.

>>520727144
demonstrate your vast knowledge of ancient greek then, so-crates

>>520717137 (OP)
nothing said in any religious book is real retard. it's all made up stories you're supposed to use as metaphors to either: a) better yourself or b) become a subservient kike bot. which you become is determined by your IQ

>>520727349
geocentrism = earthcentrism
planet = wanderer
How can the earth be the center of the universe and wander at the same time?

>>520718234
Stop babbling anon, no one understands you

>>520727431
Indians have destroyed Canadaposting even more so

>>520727452
it wasn't unknown to them

Japan can't build that mega city importing immigrants, also, that thing probably wouldn't survive a tsunami

>>520727554
Making progress: >>520726186

it was a literal space elevator to the moon

>>520717137 (OP)
It was the remains of a ziggurat

>>520726998
Manishtushu was the son of Sargon and one of his titles was "King of Kish." The Akkadians came from a ruling bloodline of Sumerians.

In the Sumerian Epic they have a long mythical story, but attached to that is a Kings List

https://youtu.be/RQCcTqolYg4?si=gHOuoRLuz7oKXMdh

There's a list of kings that ruled for 241,000 years and then it says " after the flood swept through the kingship descended to Kish."

>>520723880
That language still exists, as Godfrey Higgins proves in his two book must-read series, The Celtic Druids and Anacalypsis. Or rather its immediate, and nearly unchanged, child languages still exist. Irish, Biblical or "Chaldaic" Hebrew (distinct from Aramaic and Masoretic Hebrew) and Arabic. These languages are mutually intelligable as well, sharing their alphabets and character order within the alphabets, thousands of words. Even the trees which are traditionally associated with each letter according to ancient esoteric custom are identical in each language.

>>520727693
Did you know if you take the moon and compare it to New Jerusalem, the giant space cube in the Book of Revelation where God lives, they have the same volume? Could be the war in heaven wrecked the shit out of the cube and that's why in the Revelation it is "restored" finally at the conclusion when God comes down to physically rule Earth in it.

>>520720901
Ordinary creatures by two and sacrificial creatures by 7 pairs. Also there are exact dimenstions for the ark and it won't even hold all the species of beetles by 2

>>520717276
The hindu practicing indian invader thinks that it was a metaphor guys

>>520727293
Irish is literally run of the mill gaelic language, the one language in Europe that is objectively closest to PIE is fucking Lithuanian of all things.
Also anything written down by Christian monks regarding pagan beliefs in the lands they were actively converting should be viewed as extremely sus. In a sense that Bhagavad Gita says more about pre-christian IE paganism than Norse sagas or Irish "folklore" do.

>There's a list of kings that ruled for 241,000 years and then it says " after the flood swept through the kingship descended to Kish."
Egyptians have a similar period in their king list, where their gods ruled for incredible spans before kingship finally passed to mortals. Recent research has thrown into doubt which language came first. And if you look at pillars at Gobekli Tepe, you will see common symbols such as three Egyptian cities shown at the top here. The icons of which and the symbols which denote city, being substantially identical thousands of years later in the protodynastic period and surviving into Alexandrian times on official cartouches representing these cities administrators. You will also see the winged solar orb in its earliest form, where the orb had not yet taken the place of the bird but is with it.

>>520728384
PIE is a hypothesis created to fit data, it's not a real thing that existed. Irish is unquestionably the oldest and most change-resistant of the most ancient languages and the fact that it is cognate with both Chaldaic Hebrew and Arabic (and Aramaic before it) is also beyond question. Hindoo epics like Greek, are largely confused. You need Godfrey Higgins in your life.

>>520717276
It’s not a metaphor. Babylon was a huge, real kingdom. This retard saying it was somewhere else is spastic. Why would it be? It was just a tower, nothing impossible about it. It was the idea behind it, the city behind it and the man behind it that “Babylon” still represents today that was the issue. It was the earliest version of globohomo.

>>520717137 (OP)
Jewish elites (antique rothschilds) got imprisoned in Babylon and became buttmad that the ziggurats look cooler and are bigger than their temples
That's how they came up with the story

>>520727062
>nigga
here on pol we say nigger, newfag

>Ordinary creatures by two and sacrificial creatures by 7 pairs. Also there are exact dimenstions for the ark and it won't even hold all the species of beetles by 2
This is a simple minded commonality among Reddit types. They didn't bring every single bear onto the Ark, they brought one pair of proto-bears from which as we know, all bears descend. They brought one pair of passerine birds, from which all the ones we have today descended. One pair of proto-big-cats. One pair of proto-small-cats. One pair of wolves. One pair of birds of prey. And so on. Suddenly you are doing pretty well with an Ark of the dimensions given in the Bible, or even in the Sumerian myths (their Ark is round, 200m in diameter, and they brought a whole village on board along with the animals).

>>520728506
So this is what I sound like when I talk to people about Fomenko's New Chronology. Interesting, I'll keep it in mind.

>>520717137 (OP)
The myth came from a giant ziggurat built by Nebuchadnezzar. The empire collapsed and people forgot how to read and write cuneiform. The myth was stolen by Jews just like Noah's Ark.

>>520728506
Could you please list some base words that are cognate between Irish, Chaldaic and Arabic?
You know, like house, bread, horse, dog, fire, milk, grain, work, father, mother, son, daughter, death, god etc.
You know, the ones that are cognate in PIE "hypothesis" (it's just a guess bro).

>>520717137 (OP)
The pyramids where the base of the structure. It was build by the nephilim and hitlerjugend back in the day

Sorry, meant to post this image. Which explains the "bag," simply a population / city.

>>520728697
I like Fomenko and enjoy his books, I purchased his entire New Chronology set as well as some of the others he published afterwards which are basically appendices to his main work. I also have obtained and read Newton's Ancient Kingdoms Amended as well as other books. I agree with his thesis, history is majorly fucked into near oblivion and there is some active force that has been well endowed that fucks with it even today. His mathematical / geometric approach to history is fascinating and quite falsifiable which suits it as an actual science.

>>520728830
I will refer you to Higgins The Celtic Druids which treats this point as its main thrust. It wouldn't do to merely copy paste it here, his arguments and evidence prove the point without any doubt. It's on Internet Archive for free.

THIS image.

These are your magic bags. It's simply... populations, believers, etc.

https://rumble.com/v719ifg-murdoch-murdoch-ama-5-better-than-a-goon-sesh.html
>>520718234
>>520718655

>Space elevator perhaps

These two guys sort of get it .... the Tower of Babel scripture in the Bible has been heavily edited and modified by the lying Papists the Church of England liars and other destroyers of knowledge .... having access to the Daniel type gift of knowing reveals what the Tower of Babel actually was....

The Tower of Babel was multiple launch towers for rockets to go to space stations and moon bases on the moon....

The global trailer trash as the Gods refer to them the so-called global elite know that destruction and death are coming upon the inhabitants of the Earth from the Gods .... these globalist trailer trash also know that destruction and death are coming by multiple local nearby supernova star explosion events .... one in the extremely near future from Betelgeuse in Orion which won't kill very many people but it will get the Earth's attention and then approximately fifteen (15) to seventeen (17) years from now an Earth killing supernova from Delta Capricorni which won't kill the Earth immediately but will kill the Earth slowly over a period of twelve (12) to thirty six (36) months....

As such the global trailer trash are doing everything they can in an attempt to get off this rock and go to the Moon to salvage reinhabit and reconstitute the moon bases that are there on the moon in a futile attempt to escape destruction and death here upon the wicked on the Earth .... more information here....

4425BC Tower of Babel Moonbase space travel technology....

The Knowers Know Genesis 11:1-9 The Tower of Babel was a Moonbase on the Moon Winter 2024/25

Part 1 of 3
https://youtu.be/4cbjLbgqnus

Part 2 of 3
https://youtu.be/r3lDu6ooupI

Part 3 of 3
https://youtu.be/7Q_6UPr6QMI

Main channel link:
https://m.youtube.com/@chetallenbottorff5060/videos

>>520717137 (OP)
>Tower supposed to reach the Gods
>Is like 350 feet high max

Real reason for all the flood myths. There is no geological evidence for a great worldwide flood in this era. But there were many large local floods due to polar caps melting from the last ice age ≈ 10,000 BC. Humanity got so traumatized by these events that we had deluge stories in our tales even millenias after

>>520728905
Alright, you convinced me, I'll actually look into it then, thought I'll admit I'm extremely skeptical, being an actual philologist of Indoeuropean languages.

>>520718275
Because we live in a raptured world. We are the descendants of the remnants, those left behind.

>>520717960
Also to add, many myths were literally designed to build bridges or subconsciously push a political or ideological concept, many are noncanon or carefully crafted for the sake of eventually making the concept of man the new concept or discourage seeking delusions, sad but this is how things are, you can still appreciate the story and such. Its funny cause they r literally corrupt in this sense.

>>520717137 (OP)
>according to many myths it was located to the east of Colchis
Which myths?

>>520721621
It's like English, sure there are a LOT of loan words and some big changes such as dropping gendered language (except in certain ancient usages, for example a ship is always SHE) but the substrate is entirely autocthonic and an fact thousands of years later Hebrew words are identical such as MLK or Melek which is still Malik in Arabic.

>>520729146
It's literally followers, but it is described in Cuneiform tablets as "seed" which is cognate in that usage with civilization. Small-g gods live and die by followers. Only the Universal father, the mother, the infant son, and the holy ghost or spirit endure through all relivions.

>>520729174
You have to read Higgins, he will open your eyes to many many things. He doesn't really treat history, which is interesting. It's comparative mythology and religious studies, historical facts are more incidental to his argument.

I went to the length of buying Anacalypsis, The Celtic Druids, and Apology to Mohammed in which he shows Mohammed to be a Christian whose message was perverted by his father's friends. See Mohammed's dad was the idol keeper at the Kaaba in Mecca and that post passed from father to son. Mohammed ended up befriending a Nestorian Christian as a child, and Higgins argues he was converted and monotheism was coming in big in the region, but his dad's friends all got jealous but saw the logic in monotheism and created the Mohammed story (which may have been real) into a monotheistic, but still entirely mundane religion no different than Judaism whereby keeping the right rules will save you and not Grace.

Tales of something like the Tower persisted right into the dawn of what we'd call the modern age.

>>520717725
There has NEVER been a global flood covering the entire planet with water. It's inconsistent with the physical findings of geology, paleontology and the global distribution of species.

It simply didn't happen. Sorry. Even the schizo theories you will mention (like younger dryas) only concerns coastal areas.

>>520717787
kek

>>520729658

The mother, Yahuah Al Olam the Queen of Heaven is defective and subject to purge by the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit in the lake of fire .... everything in the green energy column in this diagram is defective and subject to purge' in the lake of fire....

Discussion on defective persons and nation s subject to destruction and death by all the Gods....

Degenerate evil fallen iniquitous wicked Daughter of Babylon / United States falls as a result of her own mountains of iniquity and sins as well as refusing to be healed, Jeremiah 51:9 .... the fall and destruction of the United States the daughter of Babylon and the great whore, the Papists and the Papist Protestants is also the described in great detail as the abominations, filth, and whoredoms of Revelation chapters 17, 18 and 19....

Revelation 17 is all about the purge of the Papists and the Papist Protestant whores by Pharaoh and his crew of ten....

For at least the last year I spoke with Pharaoh I would continually yank his chain and taunt him telling him why is he allowing the worthless Papists and Papist Protestants to continue to waste my oxygen, in my exact words again and again to Pharaoh, "Purge a Papist for Jesus...." "Purge a Papist today for Jesus...." for indeed Pharaoh does very much hate the worthless scamming, lying, murdering Papists and Papist Protestant whores....

The "arrows" repeatedly spoken of in the extremely detailed description of the condition, collapse, fall, military invasion, and destruction of the Daughter of Babylon / the United States as described in Jeremiah chapters 50 and 51 in great detail are the continual rain of rocket and missile attacks - "arrows" that the consortium of nations, including Iran (Kings of the Medes, Jeremiah 51:28) and Russia (Ashchenaz, Jeremiah 51:27) shall continually rain down missile rocket attacks "arrows" upon the United States....

Satan doesn't win, Satan loses big time, are you not reading the scriptures....?

continued....

>>520729886
This sounds reasonably consistent with Fomenko's take on Mohammed being just a particularly distorted reflection of Andronicus-Christ ushering in monotheism. I've skimmed a couple pages of The Celtic Druids and it sounds like something I should devote my undivided attention to when possible.

>>520730854

Continued....


Everybody in the inherently defective Energy column looses.... all three of the defective Energy column Gods, Luminary Olam / Queen of Heaven, Archangel Abaddon / Satan, and the Ethereal Power Calf seraph all loose and all three get thrown into the Lake of Fire....

Yahuah Al Olam / the Queen of Heaven (the beast) and the Calf seraph (the false prophet) get thrown into the Lake of Fire, Revelation 19:20....

Archangel Abaddon / Satan gets thrown in the Lake of Fire, Revelation 20:10....

All of Olam's defective degenerate unrepentant unredeemed energy only children get thrown into the Lake of Fire, Revelation 20:15....

Even two of the three warmonger Revelation 6:4, 8 spiritual beings, following the Red Horse, War and the Pale / Green Horse, Death and Hell get thrown into the Lake of Fire Revelation 20:14....

Moreover, even this rock, this planet, the entire earth gets burned up and is left a dead, lifeless, waterless, airless, extremely radioactive, dead rock, 2 Peter 3:10-12, Revelation 15:2, 21:1....

Thus the necessity of a New Heaven and a New Earth, Isaiah 65:17, 66:22; 2 Peter 3:13, Revelation 21:1-2....

The Shaddai cartel colonizer Gods win big .... everybody and everything defective Olam / Satan / Calf seraph / energy children all loose big and get totally burned up and blotted out from under heaven .... so, no, Satan doesn't win, and you shouldn't be saying Satan wins....

>>520728700
Are you stupid? They are the same thing. Nebuchadnezzar was King of Babylon and is mentioned by name, he is struck with animalistic madness after basking in his own glory one fine day - and lives in the forest following basic instinct.

>>520730586
Yeah, that's why they found seashells on top of Mt. Everest, huh?

>>520731165
Conventional geology explains those very convincingly though. Himalayas are one of the newest mountain ranges, created by India impacting Asia, hence their height, jagged, unweathered edges and abundant sea floor fossils. Himalayas quiet literally were a sea floor very recently, in geological terms.

>>520731165
Christcuck moron.
The Himalayas used to be sea floor. It was pushed up when the Indian and Eurasian tectonic plates collided millios of years ago. Hence the seashells.

>>520717137 (OP)
>Do you think it was real?
No and its low IQ to even consider jewish mythological concepts to be real.

>>520730934
You have to read the whole thing. The Celtic Druids must be read right through, Anacalypsis is one third narrative teaching, two thirds encyclopedia to be perused as you will.

>There has NEVER been a global flood covering the entire planet with water.
Bollocks it's in the fossil record. Fossil sea creatures right up in the highest peaks of the Andes and Himmel Asia.

>>520717137 (OP)
>Do you think it was real?
either
>>520717276
or it was some kind of hive city/concentration camp
15 minute babylon :)

I couldn't help but be disappointed when actually reading Genesis.
The whole Tower of Babel story? One paragraph. I'm not exaggerating, it's 243 words in KJV.
People wanted to build a big tower, God didn't like it so he confounded their languages. That's the story.
Everything beyond that is interpretative.

>>520717137 (OP)
Probably but who knows what technology it was.
Clearly it wasn't a normal building but some type of interdimensional gateway.

>I couldn't help but be disappointed when actually reading Genesis.
Are you shitting me Gen. 10 alone is remarkable in how it matches up with mDNA. That should give any Redditor such as yourself great pause.

>>520731818
Wrong.
>>520731393
>>520731418

>>520717137 (OP)
Tower of Piza?

Here we go with the TLDR captcha again. lol.

Babylon just means any sandnigger state
Modern Babylon is anything from Palestine to Saudi Arabia. Named so because of the babbling sandniggers

>>520732987
The disappointment is that all the most famous Old Testament stories are in Genesis (plus one in Exodus), but they're barely stories.
All the tales like Kain or the flood or the tower have been extrapolated from just few lines of text. I was baffled by how short it all was.
I have to admit that my jaw dropped at Genesis 19. Didn't expect a holy text to be this bold.

>>520733107
What are now called Jews, came from Babylon. When the Babylonians (really the neo-ultra-baby Assyrians) took over Jerusalem and captured the high falootin elites they pretty much satisfied themselves with that and left the country folk alone. Several generations later the "Jews" had started to exist, created in Babylon, with their Kaballah and Talmud, and they indeed came to Jerusalem but they were not simply captives set free. They were the grand-kids of the Jerusalemites, who had quickly ingraciated themselves in the high circles of Babylonian court life and took to it. They were Babylonianized. Their preversions were what led God to allow the Romans to destroy the Temple.

See the Lament of the Zadokite Priest, 130BC where he actually lists most of the issues Jesus Christ had with the Temple 200 years later.

>>520726423
thats a lot of text only to say that christianity makes no sense after trying to worship a jew who stole myths from a people theologically distant to themselves in form of bastardized Sumerian myths.

this essentially becomes bastardized bastardizations upon bastards, quickly transforming with plato before they begin to flirt with germanic people and suddenly: you get the most watered down forms of everything.

now with conclusion in hand: the most retarded religious practitioners on planet earth called christians who is in such spiritual crisis over identity politics and a white population as they still trying to anchor into the very people they subverted and persecuted for 1600 years only to make sense of their own spiritual survival.

fucking bizarre, christians belong in a mental hospital.

>>520717137 (OP)
it not on this plane, and its not to reach heaven, its a bearable place in hell for some of the things there.
Not everything deserves the deep chambers. but they were working together to siege it and that had to be stopped.
Nothing of free concision made it to heaven.
Revision just dropped, it's real easy to understand:
Do not have small things terrified of you! and you'll be ok

>>520733531
Enchanted garden where moon casts shadow of object or ghost invisible to the human eye.

>>520733107
>Babylon just means any sandnigger state
You sound... extremely uncultured. Babylon is the root, the culture from which Abraham divorced himself. It was corrupt and bankrupt. It wasn't just a metaphor for any old thing, it was the old Sumerian survival which was kept by their astronomer priests called Chaldeans from whom we inherited the Zodiac even if by the by.

delusional christcucks

Has anybody ever realized that academics and their pithy almost cliche dismissals of all ancient and holy interesting things seem to land with dull thuds or wet splats lately? It's almost as if a spell has been broken and the common hand-waves no longer carry much force.

>delusional christcucks
Borellus says, “that the Essential Salts of animals may be so prepared and preserved, that an ingenious man may have the whole ark of Noah in his own Study, and raise the fine shape of an animal out of its ashes at his pleasure; and that by the like method from the Essential Salts of humane dust, a Philosopher may, without any criminal necromancy, call up the shape of any dead ancestor from the dust whereinto his body has been incinerated.”

Tower of Marduk
>>520727693
No, monkeys lived there

>>520733556
say whatever you need to, to yourself
that's the only person you are lying to.
and for such a weak reason too, you are trying to justify it's non existence to justify your own behaviors which you know are wrong but because some book a bunch of tripped out desert hippies wrote 2,000 years ago doesn't align with our *Current* understand well then it's all wrong and there is no right and wrong so fuck it... right?

And don't back peddle because i said some very down to earth atheist level ideology that had nothing to do with anything esoteric.
But you weren't interested in that because your only goal is looking for a loophole in right and wrong and the idea of god is what is holding you back.

>>520722905
The dreams of one man actually create a strange half-mad world of quasi-material substance in another dimension. Another man, also a dreamer, blunders into this world in a dream. What he finds. Intelligence of denizens. Their dependence on the first dreamer. What happens at his death.

yea, babyl was why you were split up
and then you tried to force it back together
now your society is garbage
and you're going to eat fire instead of water
bye

>>520734168
>you are trying to justify
No. God himself created all of eternity and existence. I can't justify it being a mere poor mortal soul, some creature created by God by the by. I can only stand back and marvel in my own way at how beautiful and gem-perfect it all is. I have been struck from time to time with a bathing soul-rendering look into eternit and have not been driven mad. I instead have to laugh and rejoice, God himself has the best sense of humor and is perfectly just.

Imagine thinking God is limited to a Christian perspective, or even earthly. Hindoos believe that countless wacky aliens are here on Earth and have been for eons and they all serve Brahma and exist in him as the cells in your body serve and exist in you. You don't understand what timeless, space-less, dimension-less divinity even is, because your puny pea brain has never even risen above the level of the animalistic needs of a mere gorilla nigger.

Dream of awaking in vast hall of strange architecture, with sheet-covered forms on slabs—in positions similar to one’s own. Suggestions of disturbingly non-human outlines under sheets. One of the objects moves and throws off sheet—non-terrestrial being revealed. Sugg. that oneself is also such a being—mind has become transferred to body on other planet.

>>520717276
you religious retards circlejerk everything
no wonder it's dying

>>520718275
>why is it that God only did all these great things in the past?

>you religious retards circlejerk everything
The Marxist / "modern philosophy" answer to the problem of the sould and existence is literally, 'what f you were a brain in a jar now what you racist dummy?'

Not even joking, this is Marxism and post.

>>520717137 (OP)
>Do you think it was real?
No.
Judaism is a primitive superstition based on merging a midianite volcano god (yahweh) and the remote high god of the canaanite pantheon (el). It then plagiarised various forms of proto-monotheism from both the Persian zoroastrians and the Greek platonists but not before mangling the ideas with the customary malignant jewish narcissism. Judaism is essentially one big cope for being surrounded by more advanced people continually curbstomping jews. It is a power/revenge fantasy.
>egyptians/assyrians/babylonians/greeks/romans are bad mmmmkay
>yeh but our god is best god though
>yeh but our god is ONLY god though
>yeh but we are god's chosen though
>yeh we lost because god is punishing us though
>yeh but we're smarter though
>yeh but one day mashiach will come and smash all our enemies though
Truly asinine and pathetic.
And YOU enable their malignant narcissism by calling these copes divine holy writ, worshiping their tribal god yahweh and "trusting the plan" of some mythical masochist NEET jew whom you assert is their king and mashiach

>>520721376
>There are much older attestations of Moses and his people.
There isnt a single reference to moses before 300 BCE. The story was invented by kikes in Alexandria circa 300 BCE.

>>520728506
>Hindu greek epics are confused
For you

>>520731818
>>520732987
Are you part eggplant? You're an imbecile.

>>520733518
>with their Kaballah and Talmud
Those were developed centuries later circa 300-1000 CE you utter retard ie a millennia after the babylonian captivity

>>520717137 (OP)
Were the twin towers real?

Here's a good one for you - the Jews refuse to pronounce or write the name of God. Yet, in the Torah, the name of God is written quite a few times and is read aloud during normal Synagogue service. How to reconcile these? Seeing as how the Name of God in Temple times was only pronounced out loud once per year on Passover?

There is likely a secret Name of God in the "oral Torah" or proto Talmud which I submit could be only, but not other than, OM or alternately IHS or IEIE or IAO (all the same from the mouth).

>>520734407
that's the back peddling i was talking about
and you're now mentioning the good shit i was talking about which you blow right past to attack what you thought was Christianity.

What the fuck does ascending to a point where you can look back at all religion and say "well that's a absurd human take on the concept of god" but i understand how they got there and appreciate some of the beauty of their way of trying to connect with something greater then our mere gorilla biodrive.
I never preached Christianity, but you act like we must first shed our inherited channel to god ( typically whichever religion we are born into) and that is the one religious that we can never look back on because to do so would be to capitulate back into a delusional religious sycophant.

>>520719237
>No, there would have been some ruins or other traces of its existence.
Reminder this is the same retarded bullshit we used to say about Troy too until we finally found it.

>Those were developed centuries later circa 300-1000 CE you utter retard ie a millennia after the babylonian captivity
Codified, you mean. Not developed. They ape Babylon completely.

>>520735525
low IQ post right here lol, hylic, pic related

>>520735615
>They ape Babylon completely.
Utter rubbish
Meanwhile the tanakh (OT) clearly plagiarizes the epic of gilgamesh and the code of Hammurabi

Recall the Jews returned to Babylon after Jerusalem fell in number, and stayed there with their King or Exilarch until the formation of Israel where currently there is an occult Sanhedrin-approved King of the Jews. His name is Rabbi Rav Shlomo and he purportedly does miracles and even raises the dead even today.

>>520717137 (OP)
It's an allegory for the folly of multiculturalism.

>>520735798
>Recall the Jews returned to Babylon after Jerusalem fell in number, and stayed there with their King or Exilarch until the formation of Israel
Theyre called mizrahim
Unfortunately the other kikes spread across Europa thanks to christfaggotry

>>520735547
yeah but the so-called ruins of troy are kind of pathetic compared to the mythology
the walls are like 10 feet tall, man
it's a puny little place

One thing that stands out to me is amraphel and nimrod, it seems like they're the same people but at the same time they're not, maybe I'm confused I dunno.

>>520735870
but it wasn't a multicultural project
they all spoke the same language and were united in the same task

multiculturalism was born from the fracturing of the project

>>520735870
No - it's a retarded tale invented by kikes jealous of their more advanced neighbours' cultural and architectural achievements

>>520735766
Yea know when the ‘smartest’ atheist scholars don’t even try this argument in debates or arguments you might want to pick up on that. Try to keep up midwit as you’re looking stupid by asserting this notion.

>>520735615
you still listen to music
whaatt song do you hear?

>>520735958
Bingo
It]s almost as if yahweh is a symbol for jewry spreading discord and division among the goyim.

you also have to remember that every story in the old testament is just a retelling of a preflood story from a much more ancient civilization
the tower of babel is probably referring to events that happened at least 36,000 years ago or more

>>520735970
>No - it's a retarded tale invented by kikes jealous of their more advanced neighbours' cultural and architectural achievements
Occam's Razor approves this explanation

>>520735949
Nimrod is commonly related to Sargon of Akkad but I feel he is earlier, by a lot. The Bible's chronology in the earliest parts is near identical with the Chaldean as Abraham was of the Chaldees. Naturally he would relate his history - and Moses compiled his story being the traditional author of the Pentateuch.

But he doesn't mention things like Sargon or the Pyramids. Why? I feel the Genesis is very early and so is Exodus. I also have to say that Job and Psalms are pre-deluge books.

It's notable that both Muslims and ancient Armenian Christians only count six generations between Noah and Jesus Christ.

>>520736002
>Yea know when the ‘smartest’ atheist scholars don’t even try this argument in debates or arguments
I'm not an atheist. I'm Platonist. In any case your point is asinine.
>read the (((bible)))
Already have. Primitive semite filth and nonsense from beginning to end.

>>520736042
I create music in my mind and I have a small synthesizer based music studio where I then go and make what was in my mind into real sounds.

>>520717137 (OP)
No you retard, Sochi is west of Colchis, Colchis is western Georgia, and capital of Colchis is current Kutaisi, Kutaia, Greeks called it just Aia/Aea.
We have records from when our ancestors in caucasus fought children of Nimrod, it was south of Armenia.

>>520736161
>Sargon
Nimrod I mean. Why is Nimrod in no history?

He is literally a ghost. I believe he belonged to the pre-flood civilization and we've got our stories mixed up.

>>520717137 (OP)
I reckon it was real. People love building huge towers with nothing in them

>>520736161
The entire Pentateuch was invented by Alexandrian kikes in 300BCE
No jew had ever heard of Moses or Abraham etc etc prior to that date. The Elephantine papyri prove this beyond all doubt.

>>520718002
>where is a wood construction left to rot for 5000+ years

>>520735455
Much more likely it's Moloch, Baal, Lucifer or some combination thereof, something a Christian would rightfully consider an aspect of Satan.

It's really funny to me that according to multiple sources the Ark landed in caucasus near or at Ararat, and that Armenia and Georgia have primary first hand history of post flood society and descendants of Noah and about the ark, yet western scholars straight up refuse to even look into Armenian and Georgian texts on the subject.

>>520736260
Because western scholars don't look into expensive caucasian records of fighting children of Nimrod. There was a whole war between sons of Targamos and Nimrod.

>>520717137 (OP)
>be insignificant little desert tribe on the coast of the levant with schizophrenic belief system, no architecture, no civilization
>get conquered and enslaved by Babylonian empire
>they drag a bunch of you back to their capital for work and trade
>mind is blown by the existence of this massive city, filled with tens of thousands of people (vs your little tribe villages)
>people speaking all kinds of different languages due to Babylon being a center of bronze age trade
>get shown Ziggurats and massive temples, walls, pic rel
>OY VEY, DEY MUST BE BUILDING DA TOWAH TO GOD!!!
You should have learned by now that the ramblings of desert people tend to be less than accurate.

>>520735455
YHWH in Torah is never pronounced, I don't know what you are talking about. It is almost always replaced with Adonai.

>>520736543
>Much more likely it's Moloch
No such deity
>Baal
Simply means "Lord". There were multiple baals under El. Baal yahweh was one such lord before he was merged with El. Prior to that, there was zero structural difference between the canaanite "Baal" and yahweh.
>Lucifer
A pagan deity and the male analogue of venus/aphrpdite
Nothing to do with the semite mythos

>>520720901
Truthnuke.

>>520736668
This

>YHWH in Torah is never pronounced
Wrong. You're ignorant of Judaism such as it is, being a stand-in religion.

Anyway that's not the real Name. It's IEE or IHIH or IEU, the same root as Jupiter who is even acknowledged in one of the Gospels as being cognate with God, being the Father.

>>520736543
>Much more likely it's Moloch, Baal, Lucifer or some combination thereof, something a Christian would rightfully consider an aspect of Satan.
One book worthy of reading was written by Michael Hoffman called Judaism's Strange Gods, he is a Talmudic Orthodox Jew who studied the Talmud and later converted to Christianity and then wrote a tell-all book about the current Jewish syncretism and bizarre beliefs, which include a whole pantheon of gods.

>>520728516
Dude, it was just a way to explain how all the different languages developed so quickly, given the claim all humans were descended from Noah's family. Everyone spoke the same language, they did something to piss God off, he scattered them all, thus we have all the peoples of the world.

>>520717137 (OP)
>Do you think it was real?
Nimrod is Gilgamesh, a Nephilim, or demigod. He was also called Saturn in other cultures.

>>520737041
> he is a Talmudic Orthodox Jew who studied the Talmud and later converted to Christianity
Michael Hoffman is of European descent. He's not an ethnic jew.

>>520718655
What the fuck, is God on the moon?

>>520718002
SCHINDLER'S ARK

>>520737204
>Nimrod is Gilgamesh, a Nephilim, or demigod. He was also called Saturn in other cultures.
Utter rubbish. Unadulterated semite slop.

>>520729163
>There is no geological evidence for a great worldwide flood in this era.
>in this era
What if the geologists are Redditors, what then slick?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J83TLc4UrN0

>>520717137 (OP)
>Do you think it was real?
LOL
NO

>>520726029
God took his people and left for the Americas.

>>520736067
>every story in the old testament is just a retelling of a preflood story from a much more ancient civilization
predeluvian and postdeluvian
Acts 7:22 says
>And Moses was learned in all the wisdom of the Egyptians, and was mighty in words and in deeds.
>And when he was full forty years old, it came into his heart to visit his brethren the children of Israel.
Part of Egyptian royal education was studying letters and music in prehistoric Greece (Mycenae was founded by Perseus some decades after Moses died around 1515 BC)
Moses learned all the ancient mythologies, even the Orphic Mysteries of purification in-depth and translated them into Phoenician-Hebrew. After the Greek Dark Age, we forgot many mysteries, such as how the name Dionysus is a command (Διόνησο i.e. Δίας + ὀνίναμαι lit. "Rejoice in Deus") which Moses translates as Alleluia...

The Orphic Mysteries taught how to navigate the spirit world and avoid the demons that have taken over since the Creator Ur-Anos was virtually dethroned and replaced by Cronos (Enki) and after Zeus (Enlil). That's where Moses learned of the God of Abraham, Anu, whose Temple in Ur was ultimately destroyed by Sargon of Akkad c2335 BC and rebuilt to Astarte just a few years after Abraham emigrated (all by Septuagint chronology)

Since then, everybody knew who Ur-Anu was, but nobody worshipped him, despite being Creator and father of all the gods.

>>520737291
I really think it's true. Why not? The moon is bizarre. There was a terrible battle in Heaven. Moon and New Jerualem have the exact same volume. And God talks about New Jerusalem being restored which implies a state of non-perfectoin or ruin to this day.


And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,
bible(KJV) [Re21:10]>
11 Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal;
bible(KJV) [Re21:11]>
12 And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the
children of Israel:
bible(KJV) [Re21:12]>
13 On the east three gates; on the north three gates; on the south three gates; and on the west three gates.
bible(KJV) [Re21:13]>
14 And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.
bible(KJV) [Re21:14]>
15 And he that talked with me had a golden reed to measure the city, and the gates thereof, and the wall thereof.
bible(KJV) [Re21:15]>
16 And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the
breadth and the height of it are equal.
bible(KJV) [Re21:16]>
17 And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits, according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel.
bible(KJV) [Re21:17]>
18 And the building of the wall of it was of jasper: and the city was pure gold, like unto clear glass.
bible(KJV) [Re21:18]>

19 And the foundations of the wall of the city were garnished with all manner of precious stones. The first foundation was jasper; the second, sapphire; the third,
a chalcedony; the fourth, an emerald;
bible(KJV) [Re21:19]>
20 The fifth, sardonyx; the sixth, sardius; the seventh, chrysolyte; the eighth, beryl; the ninth, a topaz; the tenth, a chrysoprasus; the eleventh, a jacinth; the
twelfth, an amethyst.
bible(KJV) [Re21:20]>
21 And the twelve gates were twelve pearls: every several gate was of one pearl: and the street of the city was pure gold, as it were transparent glass.
bible(KJV) [Re21:21]>
22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.
bible(KJV) [Re21:22]>
23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.
bible(KJV) [Re21:23]>
24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.
bible(KJV) [Re21:24]>
25 And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.
bible(KJV) [Re21:25]>
26 And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.
bible(KJV) [Re21:26]>
27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the
Lamb's book of life.
bible(KJV) [Re21:27]>

>>520736923
Jupiter is literally just Deus Pater, Sky Father of the steppe people.

1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.
bible(KJV) [Re22:1]>
2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every
month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.
bible(KJV) [Re22:2]>
3 And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:
bible(KJV) [Re22:3]>
4 And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.
bible(KJV) [Re22:4]>
5 And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and
ever.
bible(KJV) [Re22:5]>
6 And he said unto me, These sayings are faithful and true: and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew unto his servants the things which must
shortly be done.

>>520737964
It is literally two words which mean Father of the Gods in all the most ancient languages. It's not just some name for some local "god."

>twelve thousand furlonghs
Cubing the sphere.

>Since then, everybody knew who Ur-Anu was, but nobody worshipped him, despite being Creator and father of all the gods.
Untrue, the Grteeks referenced the unknown Creator God in passing, likely glossing over mysteries, and the Romans had a shrine to the Unknown God on Capitoline Hill. They knew of the Creator but because of rigid worship practiced did not honor Him. His existence contributed to other savior-god cults like Mithraism however. Some people knew.

>>520736571
>>520736647
Caucasus paganism is largely untranslated into English sadly. I got curious once.

>>520737998
>literally two words which mean Father of the Gods in all the most ancient languages.
Indded, or God the Father, in Proto-Indo-European, the language of the steppe ;)

>>520717725
Lol go quote him then.

>>520738446
You don't need paganism, there is a 10 tome history of caucasus intended for education of the royal family written in 9th century and including exerts from first century.
It is written in literary medieval Georgian which is easy to translate, hell Georgian is highly intelligible for past 2300 years unless you go into Zanic branch.

>There isnt a single reference to moses before 300 BCE. The story was invented by kikes in Alexandria circa 300 BCE.
And yet there he is as Moyses in Cory.

>>520738545
It's made up. In reality "PIE" came from Doggerland. Have you read the Orea Linda Book?

>>520738446
>>520738645
Here ez
>https://www.attalus.org/armenian/gc2.htm
] Hayk inherited half of the patrimony, with the stated borders. He was prince of the seven brothers and stood in service to the giant Nimrod (Nebrovt') who first ruled the entire world as king. Now after a few years had passed [g9], Hayk assembled his brothers and said to them: "Hear me, my brothers. Behold, God has given us might and many people. Now, for the mercy upon us, let us not serve a foreigner but rather the true God." All consented. Rebelling, they did not provide the tax and brought over to their side the surrounding peoples. When Nimrod heard about this he was angered, assembled a multitude of many giants and rabble, set out against them and came to the Atrpatakan land. Hayk was with his people by the foot of Masis. Nimrod dispatched sixty giants with a great multitude. [The two sides] clashed with each other with a fearsome intense crash like the sound of thunder clouds. There were countless, incalculable numbers slain on both sides. Hayk stood at the rear of his people encouraging steadfastness. He and the seven brothers remained safe by the grace of God, and they glorified their omnipotent savior. When Nimrod learned about what had happened, he became extremely agitated and he himself went against Hayk. But Hayk, not having as many soldiers as [Nimrod], fortified himself into the rough places of the Masis valleys. Nimrod was heavily armored with iron, from head to foot. He ascended the crest of a hill and summoned Hayk to [return to] his former [4] obedience. But Hayk did not respond to him; rather, he said to his brothers: "Cover me from the rear and I shall descend to Nimrod." He approached him and shot an arrow at [Nimrod's] breast-plates, which went straight through to the other side. Turning about he expired forthwith and his entire army fell; and the House of T'orgom reposed without a care. Then Hayk ruled his brothers and all the neighboring peoples as king [g10].

>>520737642
......so we should all be gay?

>>520739125
>......so we should all be gay?
The opposite:
Even in the later Dionysian or Bacchic rituals which had become heavily mixed with the Panic mysteries (naked dances, masks + crossdressing, animalistic behaviours) faggotry was not tolerated except in certain (((Canaanite))) cities...

Where is this story of Hayk done into English?

>>520717137 (OP)
>it was located to the east of Colchis, which is more or less where Sochi is now.
>annoying Hohol in Canada
get fucked with your bullshit, noone cares.

>>520738743
>Have you read the Orea Linda Book?
I've seen the Asha Logos series on it, can't exactly read the original in old frisian, and I don't really trust the translations on the internet. I am really unsure about it's provenance. Seems very confusing. I believe Fomenko thinks it's one of the oldest real (not faked during renaissance) books in existence, that somehow escaped the purges during and after 30 year war. That's why it's so vastly contradictory to our deceptive Scaligarian history.

>>520733939
retarded communist

>>520739565
>https://www.attalus.org/armenian/gc2.htm
This text includes entire history of caucasus people
From Targamos being left by Noah to protect the region, to the sons who founded Caucasian nations, to eventual wars with Babylon and later steppe and even later Khazars.
Also describes how tribal kingdoms turned into nations eventually in Caucasus.

>>520731011
>he is struck with animalistic madness after basking in his own glory one fine day
so jewish poisoning?

>>520717137 (OP)
It could have been real.
It's ugly enough

>>520727062
>>civilised people unite to build thigs
>>jews poison their wells - brain damage confuses their tongues and they scatters
ftfy

>>520739898
Is you land getting flooded with aliens who can't speak you language goyim?

Why would God be doing this to you? Did you sin against God and the Jews by being successful and not letting them grab shekels off you?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiPa9tdtftk

Babel in the local tongue mean gateway, not tower

>>520717137 (OP)
>>520717276
It doesn’t matter if it’s real or not. It’s a philosophical prophecy and warning made into mythology.
I’m not denying spirituality but too many people misrepresent and misunderstand the Bible.
The Bible is meant to take concepts of the divine and translate them to human understanding. People got dumber after centuries and now we’re exist with retarded super churches and blind evangelicals.

>>520718168
>Genesis
written by moses the hyperkike
hmm...

>are ancient jewish stolen stories real?
Really?

>>520718234
>retelling of the first
civilzation destroyed by jealous inbred desert nomads aka jews and arabs through poisoning and subversion both physical and psychological

>>520717137 (OP)
It's literally about the great ziggurat of Ur. It was the highest structure of it's time and it's construction timeframe lines up with cannanite alave bwing brough in to Ur.

>>520731418
Do not fall for glownigger divide & conquer tactics.

Christianity is the definition of "right wing" political ideology:
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left%E2%80%93right_political_spectrum#Origins_in_the_French_Revolution

Christianity has always been a racist religion:
>"Oh, race of Franks, race from across the mountains, race chosen and beloved [...]"
>"the kingdom of the Persians, an accursed race, a race utterly alienated from God [...]"
- https://www2.cbn.com/article/church/pope-urban-iis-speech-calling-first-crusade

The racist and anti-semitic Confederates have always been Christian.
The National Socialists used the Celtic cross and gave out iron cross medals for bravery. The white term for "swastika" is hakenkreuz, meaning hooked cross.
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hakenkreuzbanner

Here's a growing list of Christian political commentators who are racist and anti-semitic:
- https://rentry.org/Deus_Vult
Feel free to reply to this post with others.

Educate boomers irl. If you don't preach to them, the anti-Christian kikes will:
- https://news.antiwar.com/2025/10/06/israel-to-spend-up-to-4-1-million-in-propaganda-campaign-targeting-american-christians/
israeli nationalism ("zionism") is a heresy:
- https://youtu.be/GKlT-hhZXoM&t=658s
- https://youtu.be/odNoExd8a5U
- https://youtu.be/rp92-3aBL-A
The "holocaust" (burnt offering) is a lie made up by kikes, both soviet and freemason:
- https://rumble.com/c/ScriptureandTraditionFrJM/videos
Boycott israeli products:
- https://bdsmovement.net

Common glownigger talking points:
>"jesus is a kike"
The word "kike" comes from "kikel", which means circle. The kikes hate the cross so much, they would sign documents with a circle, hence the nickname.
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plus_and_minus_signs#Alternative_plus_sign
>"off topic"
Reminder the pope is the monarch of a country. In fact in many white nations there is no separation between church and state.

>>520736762
Actually Moloch meant Angel/King. Melek, Al' malak Melech as well. That image we see with the bull that Berosus wrote about is El, the Bull, the Rider of the Storm, who is il'il, Enlil, Zeus, Yahweh EL and anything that fits the destroyer of their kingdom. In China its just a great sky dragon

Lucifer was never male. Lucifer gets mentioned once only in the Bible and Christians just repeat what they're told.

If I said there's a royal woman who co-created mankind, descends and ascends from the underworld, is the Mother of semi divine kings, has an underworld prince then that fits:

Nammu,Inanna Ishtar Ninsun Nineveh Ninhursag Kubele Matar Cybele Sybil Demeter Maat Hathor Isis Venus Aphrodite Persephone Eosphorus/Phosphorus Sophia Zoe Lillith and I swear the vast majority of female deities globally. Nuwa for the Chinese. Kali for the jeets.

This Lucifer is Satan, and Satan was the bad one is one of those things religious people just arent ever going to understand.

>>520717137 (OP)
It fell off the coast of Florida at -

28.36486041505966, -76.14896871721886

Notice each segment was built with enmeshing teeth.

>>520717137 (OP)
>Do you think it was real?

1pbtid

The man behind the Babel tower was Marduk - an alien Anunnaki faggot- who later became the 'God' of Babylon.

Marduk was the one who destroyed the temple that Solomon built for the alien faggot known as 'Yahweh'

>>520717960
You are gay

>>520737200
>Dude you can't see skydaddy
>Dude it's all so simple
>Dude allow me to explain in simple terms so you can understand how simple I am

>90% of the thread is kike kvetching about God
Go back to seething on /r/atheism, faggots

>520743620
>(((Zechariah Sitchin)))
https://youtu.be/Lj2ybmocVfo
>(((ayylmaos)))
https://www.sitchiniswrong.com/

>>520717960
>blocks your path

>>520717137 (OP)
>Also it doesn't appear to have been in Babylon,

Notice that OP is 1pbtid

If you want the real story behind the Tower of Babel...

...read pic related

>>520720901
That's the Canaanite version.
The Sumerians wrote that Ziusudra saved everything.
An Ark isn't necessarily a big boat either. It comes from ARCA, a Latin word meaning large box.
Going further into PIE, it's associated with protection, safeguarding, and hiding.

In other words, life wasn't put on a big boat to weather the storm, we were all hidden inside of a big box.

>>520717137 (OP)

It did exist. As a building and place of a united culture. Both systematically scrubbed from our collective consciousness.

No one in this thread has any clue it seems as it was not mentioned yet.

The tower of Babel existed until the fall of the Tartarian Empire.
This is a rabbithole of falsified history, the biggest memoryhole there has ever been.

The following are wikipedia articles that obviously paint this whole thing as a conspiracy are used to bury the remaining amount of undeniable evidence.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tartarian_Empire
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Pseudohistory_Theory

>>520742010
>Nammu,Inanna Ishtar Ninsun Nineveh Ninhursag Kubele Matar Cybele Sybil Demeter Maat Hathor Isis Venus Aphrodite Persephone Eosphorus/Phosphorus Sophia Zoe Lillith and I swear the vast majority of female deities globally. Nuwa for the Chinese. Kali for the jeets.

Fun fact - Inanna/Ishtar was the daughter of Allah.

kek

>>520717137 (OP)
yes