Thread 520736196

The people who run America promote all forms of identity politics in order to keep the workers fighting with one another on the basis of race, gender and sexuality. This is done so they never unite on the basis of class, and overthrow the people who hold power: the wealthy.

PS release the Epstein files.

Blood is all, tribe mentality is the strongest.
Money, class, religion, culture, language, it's all bunk. Only blood matters, you can never truly ally with a "fellow worker" of another race as you can with a member of your own kin.

Pajeets understand this, that's why the most successful ones bring in poor pajeets to work menial jobs at their companies, and the poor pajeets will gladly serve the wealthy ones.
Because to them, a victory for one of them is a victory for all, and they'll constantly brag about all the high positions jeets now occupy, even if they themselves make minimum wage.

>>520736437
Well. This certainly is what wealthy people who own the news want people to think.

>>520736437
blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb.
a thousand directly related indians can't achieve what 10 cooperating whites from different countries can do

>>520736196 (OP)
Posts like this fail to actually address the legitimate problems I have with races and sexes other than mine.

>>520736484
Yep

We must believe white anglo yuppies who hated the mere concept of family and killed thanksgivin for good would care about their blood relatives

>>520736613
You've been indoctrinated your whole life to be a racist. You may not realize that, as an American. But its reality.

>>520736484
It's the truth.
"Birds of a feather flock together" is nature's law. We're not so special that that rule doesn't apply to us.

>>520736196 (OP)
>>520736484
>>520736677
uh oh stinky funny VPN ban evadies, failed thread remakies! niggerbaby!
>>520727399

remember this post isn't ordinary shilling, it's completely unironic and posted by a bunkertrans white traitor trash druggy vagrant only alive due to shitcoin luck, he's a satanist stalinist posadist kabalist reform Jewish convert ultra shabbos tanky who- after being driven insane by getting NTR BLACK'd by a crackhead with his childhood friend who now LARPs as a satanic high priestess- believes all 4chan posters are secret billionaires and that middle class kulaks are the real moneyed class who need to all be murdered in a massive anti-Christian pogrom

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/509425314/#q509426512
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/509425314/#q509428642
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/509425314/#q509428951
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/509425314/#q509430109

he doesn't actually care about Jeffrey Epstein or anything, only how misdirecting talk about him can help him get to DRUMPF, spilling innocent white blood in a Chekist genocide and forgetting that he needs to KILL THE NIGGERBABY.

>>520736196 (OP)
>you have to unite with all the aliens we’ve imported, goy
>heuheuheu

>>520736735
>Posts a picture which disproves him.
OK. Thanks for posting the Bezos union picture which corroborates everything I've posted, and nothing you post.

>>520736570
Perhaps, but that covenant between white people has been vastly diminished over the past decades.
Looking at how many white people are actively voting and protesting for their own destruction should be ample proof of that.

>>520736437
Oh Anon. All people are made of carbon. All blood sings the same song when spilled. Further still all creatures are in many ways the same. Carbon and blood fueled. Even a robot, with it's alien steel and silicon, sings the tune of fire, compressed into it's own atomic structure and copper gold veins. This world? Unite? It's already united. What it struggles to do is tear itself apart. Even when we kill each other, we devour a part of each other. It's as the SPs said.

"The world, is a vampire."

https://youtu.be/qvr_DbqGMUs

There is a thing on /pol/ with people posting pictures which completely disprove their racist views but somehow they totally lack the awareness of this.

>>520736850
>>520736735
I would seriously like you to explain to me, anon, how you post that picture of bezos and how he uses racebait to bust unions, and somehow rationalize it in your mind to corroborate your posts, rather than mine.

Like, please, just articulate that brainrot to me.

>>520736677
You're probably a wigger. Listen, the indoctrination came from surrounding everyone with all of the other races.

>>520737023
You're brainwashed to believe this, as an American.

Of course most people on /pol/ are not brainwashed at all. But rather they are brainwashers.

>>520736196 (OP)
>This is done so they never unite on the basis of class, and overthrow the people who hold power: the wealthy.
Just imagine if you lived in an ethnostate.

>>520736850
>>520736982
Your point is that people won't form unions because they get too caught up on race issues, but my point is that doing so make sense.
For instance, even if you tried to get all the workers together to unionize, it only works if they hold firmly together. And you need something more than "we both do the same chores all day" to accomplish that.

So even if Amazon workers were to form a union, there's a whole race of scabs called Indians who would gladly ruin it by flooding into the country to take the shitty jobs for minimum wage that Bezos would be offering them.
Do you understand? You cannot have "worker rights" with nationalism and racial solidarity. An innate understanding that if foreigners enter into your country, your integrity is compromised.

>>520737064
The media is driven by its writers and its audience. The audience is driven by insufferable demographics. There's no conspiracy of content. It's conspiracy of who is here. That's what's driving it. Media was white-centric because America used to be predominantly white. Now it's a hodge podge. That means the nationwide idea of an "American" does not resonate anymore, because now America is stratified. What resonates are chambers where people hear what they want. Believe it or not some black girl probably loves the black little mermaid. White audience think "what the fuck is this shit." It's demography. Plain and simple.

I am definitely gonna be on a different IP now because my phone died. Unfortunately.

>>520737480
We don't live in an ethnostate.
>>520737519
You don't have a point. You corroborated my point, in unintentionally funny fashion, by posting a comically famous example of a billionaire using race to divide the workers.

>>520737645
>We don't live in an ethnostate.
But what if you didn't have breakfast this morning OP?

>>520737566
Right. There are no conspricies, huh anon? Isn't it funny how /pol/ has fully transformed into the "there are no conspiracies" board? Fuck this place.

Market incentives are 1 part of the equation though. But only 1 part.

did he just fail the breakfast test live

did he really

"Everything is precisely what they tell you on the news" - /pol/

>>520736196 (OP)
Cool tell niggers to act normal first and then maybe everyone else can consider
It's all business for what niggers owe society, according to you shitstains, but all charity for what I owe.

>>520737707
>>520737696
Whatever you guys are talking about, it exists in your own mind and nowhere else.

>>520737645
Read >>520737519 again cause I'm not explaining it to you a second time.

>>520736982
The left wing use to be immigration restrictionists. Now they're into maintaining gay anal sex or whatever. Dealt a bad hand, but gotta get real about it.

>>520737784
People on this board really want everyone to hate black people, or jews, or women. Because this is what keeps the wealthy in power.

>>520737841
Read >>520737645. There's nothing else to say to you.

>>520737866
The only people who are responsible for immigration in America are the right. The right are the capitalists. The right shoulder 100% of the burden for immigration.

>>520737886
>Keeps the wealthy in power
Okay so you're in your little le capitalism phase of your thinking, fine.
You want to know what's REALLY a class issue, you MASSIVE fucking retard?
How about the fact that our government threatens Americans with infinite scabs from Mexico to ensure they never have to pay an American a normal wage? Then they insist the economy would fall apart without those Mexicans to scab the jobs. The same goes for indians too. Scabs.
It's class warfare USING race and you're trying to sing kumbaya like Mr. Fucking Rogers.

>>520737699
There are conspiracies. Just not wigger conspiracies.

>>520736437
actual Westerners know that our culture is individualistic and that's what separates us from thirdies and why our civilization excels. You must be Moroccan

>>520737195
Go on...

>>520737981
All of those immigrants are here by the direct hand of the republicans who pander to racism. They're the direct results of capitalism. No one on the left is responsible for them. Only you, and everyone on the right >>520737930.

>>520737886
>Because this is what keeps the wealthy in power.
Wow, it must be impossible to have wealth and power in an ethnostate then, huh?

>>520738075
>All immigrants are here by direct hand of racist Republicans
Okay so now the gig is up and it's obviously you're trolling. Gobble gobble. Nice one

>>520738019
On this board, you have become the voice of shutting down all critical thinking, all individualistic thinking and all free thinking. You have become the people that shut down conspiracies. The people that tell the American public to digest every narrative the news feeds them.

>>520737930
This is the one true thing you've said. It is the capitalists that are doing it. The problem is the left wing is composed of retarded faggots that think the solution is getting everyone and the immigrants to team up against the capitalists. That's not what happens. What happens is the native workers get sidelined and wages suppress, immigrants get a slightly better leg up from the shit holes they came from, and capitalists walk away unscathed.

>>520738118
I did not say what you quoted.

>>520738155
You create capitalism. You create the immigrants. No one's responsible for it but you, no matter what mental gymnastics you post.

>>520736196 (OP)
this imagine implies there's a "real," "good" left. If so, that "real" left isn't doing a very good job making it clear that they DON'T hate whites.

skill issue

>>520738139
You're just 14 years old and trying to condense your worldview into anti-capitalism. It's hilarious how you see yourself as some huge figure trying to explain reason to the unreasonable masses.
You're just fucking wrong and keep getting called out for it

>>520738075
The good news is there's a schism on the right wing, where a lot of the younger right know the business interests of the right wing have fucked everyone over. Traditionalist/heritage and business do not mix. Ted K actually said something about that.

>>520738105
see >>520737645

>>520738193
>you create capitalism
actually I don't think that 4chan poster you quoted created capitalism

>>520738205
Boy. /pol/acks sure do love their capitalism.

Every single immigrant in the US is here for capitalism. Every single woke television show, or film, is made by capitalists.

>>520738118
>Okay so now the gig is up and it's obviously you're trolling.
what was your first clue? the fact that he's a known Chris-Chan tier mentally ill lolcow ban evader? >>520736737

>>520738228
No. Your politics stand for nothing other than capitalism.

>>520738234
You know, I think you should stop posting and have breakfast. It really helps to start your day off right.

>>520738269
You are creating capitalism yup, as capitalists. It exists because of you.

>>520738312
We still don't live in an ethnostate. So, putting it with as much brevity as possible, it moots your point.

>>520738300
Nigger I don't ever read those hysterical link filled posts
This is indeed a profoundly retarded thread but I've tried to go through that kind of post before and found little more than schizophrenic half connections. Maybe yours is really good and informative but that's why I don't read them in general kek

Notice how every post has just been another attempt to double down on the use of identity politics in order to defend capitalism?

>>520738332
Denounce the Talmud.

When will humanity wake up and realize there is no other component to "right-wing politics" other than using racebait, or other forms of identitybait, in order to bait the public into voting for capitalism?

he's in the "self-reply babbling for dozens of posts while no one engages until a mod wakes up and reups his perma" stage of a niggerbaby posadist thread

>>520738373
>>520738312
PS if you want to tell me what your point is by saying "boy, wouldn't it be wonderful to live in an ethnostate" or whatever you said, then feel free. But we both know, ultimately, your point is only going to be another variation of "please vote for capitalism on the basis of racism" thus proving the point of my OP, once more.

>>520738418
Niggers still act like niggers in non-capitalist countries.

>>520738600
All of Africa is under western colonial influence. Not in the past, but in the present.

>>520738281
reply to this:

>>520738194
(*image)

So you're saying there's a "real," purely class conscious, anti-immigration left who don't just traffic in black/LGBT grievance polititics? Ok, so where are they? Why are they so hard to find? Why are their views not represented by any of the popular leftist/socialist/breadtube talking heads? Why do they never run in elections? Why it is always guys like that guy in NY who openly says he's going to tax white people more?

There's a "real" left? Where are they? You'd think these "real" leftists would work a little harder than "not at all" to reach white voters and persuade them.

>>520738021
Perhaps so but we were never as atomized as we are today. Whites used to have communities that held together.
We used to go to church even if we didn't like it, we used to have church communities where we shared our worries and whole groups would work together for the benefit of one.
If some poor widow was being harassed by a pervert then a group of burly men from the church group would visit his house to tell him he'd better knock that shit off real quick.
Nowadays white people are all on their own, parents kick their children out of the house at 18, no one is gonna arrange marriages for their kids either because no one wants to be responsible for anything.

When people in Africa elect a communist leader that wants to keep African resources for their own people, the US govt coups them, or assassinates them. And replaces them with a fascist who will sell African natural resources to the US for dirt cheap.

>>520736677
The black dude that broke into my sister’s house and shot her husband was just an imagination put into my head by the elites?

>>520738684
>>520738194
Your posts, both of them, are just you doubling down on whatever the US news is telling you to believe.

>>520736677
The system tries to tell us we’re all equal, you retard.

>>520736196 (OP)
I knew if I searched this board long enough I would find the hands down #1 most stupid fucking post ever on this board. I just didn't know it would be at this exact moment.
OP is a gaping faggot.

>>520738725
How much money would I bet that this did not happen to you?

But yup the crime in the USA is part of a broad picture.

>>520738827
Denounce the Talmud.

>>520738827
You’re a nigger

>>520738795
That's what the news tells you to believe about its biases. That's not what the news' real biases are.

>>520738827
>>520738725
I never wanna minimize the pain of people who suffer from, or experience, violent crime. But we both know people on /pol/ are full of shit.

>>520738772
It seems to me like you ARE actually pro-mass immigration but are not being overt about it because you think if you hide it, you can use the obvious connection between the financial and mass immigration (cheap labor, GDP) to manipulate people here into drifting left. It's not gonna work because we all live in the same country/culture and we know what the left is

>>520738827
>gambles
Maybe capitalism isn't the problem. Maybe it's just you.

In the end, every anon knows every word I've said is 100% the truth. They just do not want to face it because the only thing they truly value, is capitalism.

>>520738965
Let's go with that

Solutions?

>>520738948
It can seem that way to you, and everyone will just laugh at you. Because you are a capitalist who is trying to turn the tables around on a communist, but at the end of the day you're still the capitalist.

You are the one who is to blame for your crime.

>>520736196 (OP)
Then how did the US become le 56%? Maybe (((capitalists))) are racist against whites

>>520737886
You lost me at jews, and I’m married to a black woman

>>520738575
You can't be racist if everyone is the same race OP

>>520738890
Another black dude shot and killed someone at in my mostly white little town I live in. But that’s imaginary too. Your cope is off the charts. The elites brainwashed everyone into just thinking blacks are violent animals. Ok

>>520737930
Then you should agree that unions can only work with a homogeneous society and therefore voting for race is the correct first step

>>520738965
See? The right will never solve your immigration problem. They only ever make it worse. They are never going to back away from capitalism. Capitalism is the only thing which matters to them, and the racism/antisemitism/gender/bigotry stuff is empty pandering for people whom they view as "too fucking dumb" to see their grift.

>>520739087
>Capitalists uses diversity to destroy workers
>The solution is not vote against racism for diversity
>If you vote for race you are voting for the capitalists
This is what you sound like

>>520739069
No ones responsible for your anti-union votes on the right, but you on the right.

No mater how much any of you try to turn it around its never gonna happen.
>>520739014
Yes you replaced your white population with immigrants for your precious capitalism, then tried to blame your crime of openborders immigration on jews and leftists, like the right always does. Thats your usual playbook.

>>520738997
Offer scratch tickets for proof of the newest covid shots.

>>520739136
see both responses to your comments here >>520739143. There is absolutely nothing more to say you on these matters. You are responsible for your crimes. Not your political opposition.

>>520739143
So I should vote for racial policies so that capitalists will fail. Why do jews and leftists tell me to vote for open border?

Once more, I reiterate, every post is just /pol/acks doubling down with their attempts to keep you voting for capitalism on the basis of racism, or other idpol.

>>520739182
My political opposition, the jews and leftists are telling me not vote according to race, therfore benefiting capitalists. Sounds like jews and leftist are the capitalists now.

He refused to engage me, twice.
This is a slide thread.
He gets paid for every response.
Stop posting here.

>>520739209
The hypocrisy and empty pandering of your posts was elucidated perfectly above >>520739143. Nothing more to say to you on the matter.

>>520739253
"Your hypocrisy and empty pandering of your posts was elucidated perfectly above >>520739143. Nothing more to say to you on the matter."

>>520739296
I accept your concession

>>520739226
You continue to fail to explain how your ideology about racism applies in an ethnostate where, by definition, no one can be racist.

>>520739270
I pretty much respond to every comment, so if I didnt respond to you then you must have posted something especially pointless.

>>520739309
Pretty much just an empty cope /pol/acks post when they've run out of steam. You post this like clockwork when you lose arguments.

>>520739316
We do not live in an ethnostate, so for like the 5th time I fail to see how your comment holds any relevance.

>>520736196 (OP)
And OP, if you're here please tell under which president this started and really went into overdrive?

>>520739368
OP is samefagging

>>520739368
It started 250 years ago. In fact, it technically started well before the US even was founded since the US was founded by immigrants.

Its been happening for as long as capitalism has been happening.

>>520739404
I'm not. You're just massively butthurt about losing a debate above. >>520737584

>>520739428
>>520739368
Note numbers in picture here >>520739428 are not per capita. They are nominal. So per capita immigration was even worse back in right's beloved gilded age, or even prior.

Being a right-winger, for anyone other than a billionaire, just means being someone who is wrong and brainwashed. It will never mean anything more than that.

Defeated board no longer can even think of new comments to try to post. I win. I'm leaving.

looks to be the end of the "self-reply babbling for dozens of posts with low or no engagement until a mod reups his perma" tantrum stage, but will we see "renewed self-reply babbling with VPN bumps for illusion of engagement" following it in twenty or so minutes as the Adderall kicks in? whatever the case, he'll probably forget to KILL THE NIGGERBABY

>>520736674
>pic
i like hitler and disklike jews but you set yourself up for this

>>520736196 (OP)
There are very few if any right wing movements or parties in the US. The republicans especially are not right wing. They are a left wing capitalist party.

>>520740058
I'm technically here if you guys have anything new or interesting to say. But you don't. What can you say to argue with the truth? Not much.

>>520740211
OK. Well I live in the real world, where republicans are right-wing, and the US is the furthest right major economy on this planet, and its been involved in an 80 year imperialistic war against communism, or any nation which displays mild sympathy to communism.

So that's the world everyone else is living in.

But you can feel free to try to pull uninformed voters in to your laughably fucked up world of bullshit delusion, if you want.

looks like the "immediate pant shitting resumption of sperging self-replies and template posts on being called out" pattern, fascinating, fascinating... and he STILL hasn't killed the niggerbaby

>>520740361
What is it that I used to post and spam threads with, back in the days when I used to do threads like this one with you guys almost every night? "Your politics revolve only around using identity and jewish scapegoats to protect billionaire capitalists from communism"? Or something to that effect? I really need to return to just spamming every one of these threads with that line, because it fits almost everything you people say.

"Your politics revolve only around using identity and jewish scapegoats to protect billionaire capitalists from communism"

It aint ever gonna be anything other than that, when you are dealing with political actors who are selling racism to the public.

Identity is the tool with which the capitalist is able to mindcontrol the public.

why should I care about who is rich, who is poor, who will inherit the wealth, who doesn't, the right of the "workers" whatever that is, if I'm just an atom with no broader identity other than my function in the machine? why should your nihilism be repaid with anything other than nihilism?

>>520736196 (OP)
Notice how Jews will constantly scream about blood libel while committing blood libel against whites and encouraging everyone else to do the same? The same Jews behind mass migration and the wars in the Middle-East?

>>520741075
You, the capitalists, are the ones committing every incident of "blood libel" that you accuse jews of. You have replaced the white Americans you pretend to protect with open borders mass immigration. You did this for capitalism, which requires said immigrants. Then you turned around and blamed leftists and jews for your crimes.

As I stated once above, this is your usual playbook. You are the arsonist who calls himself a fireman in hopes of being praised as a hero for the destruction you wreak.

/pol/ haaaaaaaaaaates to be confronted with their own blatant and brutal hypocrisy like this BTW >>520741874 to the point of total comedy. To the point where they just have absolutely nothing to say in return.

One might also wonder why /pol/ pretends to be so antisemitic, but yet is constantly shilling for the world's biggest zionists. Or pretends to want "wokeness" stopped, but then refuses to realize it when one points out that its all being funded and engineered by the right.

Its almost like...*gasp*...people on this board genuinely are just soulless propagandists who obviously pander to the public with identity politics without believing 1 word of their own propaganda.

>>520736196 (OP)
>just hate people with more money than you!

Good poor people are terrible

>>520736196 (OP)
>>520736735

It's both. The rich want diversity because diversity breeds division. A racially homogeneous population is a united population. A united population is a population the rich can't control. Look at the problem this way: will group of racially and culturally homogeneous people ever derive an advantage from an oppressor by importing a bunch of Indians? Nonsense.

>>520742297
This is not the real situation. The real situation is that you have a racially diverse population in America because of capitalism. From the beginning of the country, it became diverse due to colonialism, then from the transatlantic slave trade. These are both directly related to capitalism. To this day, you take in every immigrant you do because immigrants are necessary for capitalism. Not optional. Necessary. Then the propaganda about it in US news is to blame "the left" for the crimes.

>>520741874
You literally have no defense against the truth.
Slavery, the opium wars, the British empire and now the American empire are all the engines of Jewish greed. All the wars in the Middle-East designed to rid the area of the enemies of Israel amd palm them off on the Europeans who are as Christians the enemies of the Jew.
People are waking up to your bullshit and Hitler will rise from his grave and put and end to you for good.

So basically, as I explain time and time again on this board, is that wealthy capitalists use identity politics to manipulate you into voting for capitalism. Then they fuck you over in a million different ways, including open borders and chattel slavery, then your population is even more multicultural and the same capitalists who did it to you turn around and say "blame leftists" or "blame jews".

Its the same cycle on repeat for 100s of years now.

You would think, at some point, people might realize "wait a minute, I have to begin seeing myself as a member of a class, instead of a member of a race" but nope. Humans have not yet achieved that level of intellect.

>>520740086
meh...on one hand, i don't like sandniggers, either, so i don't care how many of them die. on the other hand, the synagogue of satan who call themselves "jews" were given sanctuary by the sandniggers (who call themselves "palestinians"), even though the "jews" have no true genetic or biblical claim to the territory, and began "expanding" and otherwise behaving in stereotypically jewish ways. so, it's not really the same thing.

jews didn't belong in germany, and they don't belong in "israel," either. that's the difference. so, the satanyahu version in your meme redux is from a disingenuous starting point with "you take them," since, again, the "jews" are the ones that don't belong there...the same as it comes off in real life. this is why everyone hates kikes.

>>520742030
you still have to explain what is the point of fighting for scraps with jamal, rajeet and pedro; say you win, somehow you get this coalition going where people stop looking at "identity" the way you are putting it and every member of the usurious class is hanged or burned and they are no more, what then?
saying that indeed it's the capitalist class that did this doesn't help, if someone shoots me I still have to worry about the bullet inside of me I can't just let it slide
the "left" is the side that won't compromise on their secular post-christian human egalitarian religion, a large fraction of what votes "right" would start voting for Pol Pot himself in a heartbeat if it meant getting their countries back and ending this grotesque racial cloaca experiment

>>520742677
Your point is just to randomly blame jews for every crime you, as capitalists, commit, on the basis of nothing. Then you turn around and say "you have no defense for that". OK well maybe not but only because its a profoundly unimpressive talking point.

>>520736196 (OP)
>>520741991
>>520736735
In fact, you could say that diversity got its start in American because the rich wanted slaves - and legally couldn't enslave their own population. A homogeneous America would have be been an America with no legacy of slavery. Modern importation of brown workers is just a roundabout way to try and achieve the same objective. "Americans won't do XYZ job" is just code for "I don't want to pay a good wage; I need slaves". All the tremendous obstacles of achieving "unity", "solidarity", etc. against the robberbaron is completely bypassed in a homogeneous population. I agree with "class war not race war" - but one must bear in mind that without diversity, you don't have to consider "race war", you get the class war by default; the "race war" isn't a consideration to begin with.

>>520736196 (OP)
Based and class-pilled.

>>520742746
There's 2 parts to your post. The 2nd part is just you invoking your endless culturewar woke strawmen. Those are unimpressive and have nothing to do with anything other than what the news tells you to believe about US politics.

The 1st part is even more nebulous, and makes less sense. "What then" what? "What then" when people get healthcare, living wages and property ownership? "What then" when wars are ended? No "what then". That is the endpoint.

>>520736196 (OP)
>muh media
People have been able to consume their own pep rallies all day every day for 10+ years.

>>520742792
Capitalism brought slaves to America. But your invocation of "if we weren't diverse then there wouldn't be racewars" is pointless, since America is diverse. Get your time machine and go back to colonial America and try to explain that to the founding fathers rightists love so much. Unless you can pull that 1 off, then stop wasting everyone's time with it.

>>520743018
>>520742792
PS newsflash, even the founding fathers knew about how to use racial tensions for capitalist political gain. Endless stories of pre-US politics hardening racial castes to put down class dissent.

In the end, it remains a fact that every comment the people on this board make ultimately amounts to "focus more on race, and less on class", even if they're talking around it in a deceptive fashion. The right is the right, it will never change its stripes.

>>520742901
not answering the question in a roundabout way is still not answering the question
I get it, you think the only concept of "identity" that exist is what you personally think is an identity, that is, like any communist, the "human" identity from your post-christian religion as cog in a machine moving towards the communist earthly eschaton, you refuse once again to justify it therefore I have to assume you can't like any religious person

>people get healthcare, living wages and property ownership
and what if some of them want a country, a living space where they can cultivate an identity other than what you deem a real identity?

>>520742753
Capitalism is just the trade of goods and services between providers and consumers.
I don't know what you think this gay Jewish system is, but it isn't capitalism.
Denounce the Talmud, you Jewish shitbag.

>>520743212
You got your answer. You just didn't like it. And didn't have a point to write in response, and now you are predictably saying non sequitur things to me in order to mischaracterize my posts or otherwise ascribe points to me which I have never made.

>>520743235
No. That is not what capitalism means. Capitalism is the private ownership of the means of production. FFS. Funny how so many capitalists cant even tell you what capitalism means.

>>520743312
>endless culture woke culture strawman
>you got your answer
concession and complete intellectual humiliation accepted

>>520740287
>in the real world
No you don't. You're a religious nutcase who fell for yet another kike's scams and now you have retarded beliefs like the US having any right wing parties at all. Find the traditionalist monarchist party in the US and you will find the only right wing party. I guarantee it isn't the Republican party.
>80 year imperialistic war against communism
Pretending Marxism is the only form of left wing politics is a classic delusion pushed by Marxists. Nonsense like "imperialistic war against communism" is also a lie. Most of the imperialist acts in the last century were committed by communists such as the Soviet conquest of eastern Europe. Turns out in real life, most of those countries stopped being communist the moment they could get away from being Soviet satellite states.
>or any nation which displays mild sympathy to communism.
The only two wars the US was involved in that involved communism was first the Korean war where the North Koreans invaded South Korean and had to be pushed back. The second was the Vietnam war. After which there were no wars against anyone with communist sympathy. Even today with places like Venezuela destroying itself to pursue communism, there has been no military action.
>bullshit delusion
Look in the mirror.

>>520743212
He just comes across as some low-IQ brown retard who smoked some weed and now we're being subjected to his banal stream of consciousness.

>>520742678
Read settlers. Whites arent working class. They need to be rounded up and exterminated.

>>520743366
>Concession
Like I said to some anon above, you predictably say this on /pol/ whenever you lose an argument.
>>520743392
I stopped reading at "you're a religious nutcase". I am sorry, because I generally respond to every comment on this board but I need to draw the line somewhere. A brief scan of the rest of your comment made it seem as if you were denying the anticommunist motives of US imperialism, and trying to rewrite language around political words like "Marxism" or "left wing". I have no patience for any of this.

>>520743395
it's the classic communist meme, he's doing it, he thinks TRVE organic identity is "class" while tribe/race/nation/religion are soshul konstrukts he can just hide under the rug and pretend aren't there, or rather, deep down what happens is that he wants one side to pretend they aren't there while it slowly gets dispossessed

>>520743361
> Capitalism is what Marxists say it is.
Why shouldn't people be entitled to own their own businesses? The problem comes when Jews print money and lend it to other Jews who then buy all the businesses up, consolidate them and move production abroad to exploit slave labour and then lobby their politicians to regulate anyone from competing against them.

>>520743503
Whats this, one of your lame attempts to psyop the public by LARPing as a leftist and pretending you want to round up whites? These are the usual psyops from fascists.

>>520743515
>whenever you lose an argument.
you have been asked more than once to justify your prior of identity being something that must start on class, you couldn't, hence your concession is accepted, throwing logical fallacy names you can barely spell isn't an argument

>>520743575
I am not going to argue with you about what the word "capitalism" means. It means what it means. Not what people on /pol/ say it means. I know that you support the private ownership of the means of production, AKA capitalism, and want the federal reserve privatized so that its only in the hands of billionaire capitalists, to run for their own profit.

I know. Thats what makes you a rightist.

>>520743599
Its the truth, racist trash. Read. Settlers by J. Sakai.
Lumpenprole arent the proletariat. The entire system of capitalism is because inbred filthy whites from europe imposed it on the rest of the world. To solve the issue of capitalism explicitly means to solve whiteness, which, means they have to be killed.

>>520743637
You dont even talk in english, dude. I can't even verbally understand your posts. You're saying things to me that have nothing to do with me, and that's the usual way rightists talk to leftists when you know you can't beat us by honestly engaging with our ideas.

>>520743727
once again, complete and utter refusal to answer basic questions about the priors he has been using in his own thread, completely humiliated, we're done

>>520743727
>liberal thinks we debate with fash

>>520743018
My point is that pushing diversity isn't the solution. Pushing diversity is literally what Bezos does to ensure class consciousness doesn't form in his workers. Can you imagine a picket line of angry workers chanting "What do we want? A million jeets! When do we want them? Now!" Forming class consciousness starts by overcoming racial consciousness, not pretending it doesn't exist. The rich know this well, which is why they import them. Racial divisions are a *reality*. Most of India hasn't figured out toilets yet, but you want to explain class struggle to him. Ok, fine. But that instruction starts with the fact he's Indian. What this guy is doing is a good example of the right approach https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZVPddO0_Yc differences in race and culture are problems to be worked around, not ignored or denied. The way he puts the question is perfect: "We know that politicians have done things to oppress blacks like sell crack in inner cites, etc. etc. - the question I have is: why does it work so well on blacks specifically".

>>520743699
Its the most transparent and unimpressive psyop false flag you are trying to pull right now. The classic "fascist pretending to be a leftist then pretending they're racist against whites". The internet is full of posts like yours. Internet. Television. Movies.

What you're doing is so unimpressive and basic.

>>520736196 (OP)
I get along fine with Asian girls, blacks and browns are stupid and annoying as fuck and I’m sick of paying for their existence.
Get the fuck away from me.

>>520743781
see this post and I really have nothing more to say to you >>520743812.
>>520743798
No one is "pushing diversity" on you. You live in a diverse country. No one is telling you "have more diversity". You did that to yourself through your racism which led you to your capitalist politics. What I am telling you is to put your identity politics aside and focus on class now, because the identity is obviously being used to control you.

>>520737064
Ah yes, brainwashed by direct experience, while being bombarded 24/7 by the complete opposite ideologies by the (((media))). I grew up in a 90 percent white country, I KNOW what it used to be like, and brown America is a dystopia. You would have to be brainwashed against your own interests to accept an invasion of this scale, never seen in human history, while cucks like you try to convince us it's totally fine to lose your culture, country, political power and way of life for the benefit of foreigners that laugh at your demise.

>>520743903
>>520743798
PS INB4 you doubledown on the US news version of whatever they tell you "leftists" are, without any shred of awareness of the irony and how brainwashed you are.

>>520743903
>No one is "pushing diversity" on you.
Lol, shill outed. Your own pic (especially the graphs in the upper right) is literally proof of diversity being pushed.

>>520743922
Well you lost that 90% white country because of your own capitalist politics. You did it. Now you're trying to blame jews and leftists for it, and thats how the right handles every issue. And your views completely 100% are put into your mind by the US news.

>>520743812
Really? Look at SDS and the Weathermen
ALL white babies are pigs. Acts of violence against white children is justifiable. Fucking white pig.

>>520744032
I am psychic >>520743957. I was right.

>>520736196 (OP)
>muh workers
Shut the fuck up commie.Literally stopped reading there

>>520744041
I really have nothing more to say to you >>520743812.

Unfortunately, right-wingers are the world's most easily indoctrinatable people. Unbelievably brainwashed individuals, who unironically think they're the only ones in the world who are above brainwashing.

>>520744100
Dont care white scum. Ill drag your little white daughter outside by her hair and blast her in the face. Do something little fascist.

>>520744074
I'm not calling you a leftist, I'm calling you dishonest. Bezos literally pays to push diversity on his workforce because it keeps them from uniting. You even acknowledged this when another anon posted as screenshot about it.

>>520738019
There are so many conspiracies involved in just the media that it's impossible to consume to any media without being exposed to psychological manipulation techniques, emotional manipulation, lies, etc. Advertisers spend millions crafting the perfect ads, and guess what, they work. What makes you think other interested (((parties))) haven't been crafting media to influence other beliefs you have?

>>520744227
I am a leftist. I am a communist. I never decried you for calling me a leftist. I think you genuinely lack reading comprehension.

>>520736196 (OP)
Put your mouth on the curb faggot.

>>520744258
>>520744227
PS every time you people mention bezos using identity politics to bust unions, you are vindicating my posts for me, and entirely disproving your own.

>>520744166
we're hitting levels of irony that shouldn't be possible, Dunning-Kruger on steroids
you'd probably call Ezra Pound a capitalist too if he were posting ITT

>>520743957
>PS INB4 you doubledown on the US news version of whatever they tell you "leftists" are
>>520744166
Unfortunately, right-wingers are the world's most easily indoctrinatable people

See there it is. "Leftists" are an empty fabricated term but "right-wingers" are a real group. You're a shill.

LszCeeD7 its hard for me to talk to you when really cant seem to grasp the point of posts I write in response to you.

You really missed many things. You really misunderstood.

>>520744326
You're talking to yourself, dude. I never said anything to you about "leftists being an empty fabricated term". You've got to seek help and find treatments for these hallucinations you have.

When posters get to the point where they genuinely cant even follow very basic, perfectly articulated posts, its probably time for me to leave.

possibly anyhow

>>520744040
My politics? What politics? Growing up in a broken home and poor and being fed my beliefs by television and school? I'm not a Republicuck, or a capitalist you jew cuck, and I've never voted for one, or a Democrat, or anyone else.

>>520744536
Yes. You area "republicuck". Like everyone else here, no matter how much you try to dance around your political labels and pretend you are all unique and special.

>>520736196 (OP)
everything about this post is fucking stupid

All /pol/ rhetoric is financed by the republican party and US political establishment. One who doesn't know this, is only ignorant and brainwashed.

All /pol/ rhetoric is financed by the republican party and US political establishment. One who doesn't know this, is only brainwashed.

>>520744040
Also the US news would never even mention my views. They spout the complete opposite of my views, unlike lefty shills like yourself.

Brainwashed people don't know they're brainwashed. And that's the problem you face in American politics, especially /pol/type US politics.

>>520744040
We can kick you the same they brought you here.
I will settle for nothing less than segregation, you’re not my fucking friend.
In fact, you’re a hindrance.
We’re not all the same, I’m better.

Every time I hear someone say the word "capitalist" or "capitalism"I assume he is retarded, and every time I get proven right.

>>520744766
>fash still talking
A bullet in every last one of you.

>>520744751
Thats your US news brainwashing.

You're not supposed to understand the nature of how your brainwashing works. But look at the content of the OP + for more info >>520741991.
>>520744752
Your picture is almost as big of a self-own as when anons posted about how Bezos uses racism to bust unions. You do know JP Morgan are your capitalists, who run YOUR capitalist institute, right? You just proved leftists are about class and capitalists are about identity politics bait. You also may benefit from viewing >>520741991

>>520744590
See this is gaslighting 101. I could tell you I hate every Republican in politics and you'd still call me a Republican because you're a brainwashed lefty, or just plain anti white.

>>520744826
Or you can get the iryna treatment, pig honky

>>520736196 (OP)
More like they promote the US having no culture so they can keep getting 0 IQ imports to vote for them

>>520744826
You are neither racists, nor antisemites on this board. Otherwise you would not be voting for the capitalism which dictates the necessity for endless open borders migration, or for the political party which promotes the most frothing zionism. You are just a board of hollow propagandists who use identity politics as a lame pander to uninformed, and low-information, voters, in order to keep them voting for capitalism which in turn causes more of their problems.

>>520744907
Your empty rhetoric is unrelated to political reality

>>520736437
Pajeets run a caste system you retard, they discriminate against each other even in the west, white western elites only care about money and class, just look at the English Tory party, they’d rather elect a poo from a rich background as their leader rather than a working class anglo saxon,

>>520736196 (OP)
The only class is kike or gentile.
>>520736437
This.

>>520744998
But open borders was created by LBJ who was most famous for his socialist open borders policies. He even signed legislation to let in Cubans for no reason

>>520745094
Its worth noting, this person almost inevitably spends the overwhelming majority of their time on this board politically defending the world's most infamous zionist. Every ounce of /pol/ rhetoric is fake.

>>520745072
Shut the fuck up you white scum. You have no right to insult a person of color or their culture, pig.

>>520744893
This guy. I don't watch the news for one thing, and my views come from direct experience. And observation. Where do yours come from? I'm sure you think yours are all correct and from trustworthy sources. But again for any anons reading, this is gaslighting that Jews and leftists use on a daily basis.2TH0ND

>>520745101
Well you clearly do not even know remedial history then. Not much more for me to tell you on any of these talking points.

>>520745154
Are we not supposed to hold the Democrat party responsible for being the party of illegal immigrants?

>>520745045
This is a completely meaningless statement by a propagandist

>>520745200
This is just what you all say. "I don't watch the news", *proceeds to repeat and doubledown on every bullshit MSM news narrative

Why is nationalism fine for some countries, but not for others?
How is pointing out yourself as different from others making us all equal?
How is being discriminatory toward one group not racist, while at the same time favoring others?

People around the world are tribal and enjoy preservation of culture. It is a natural defense to gravitate to like-organisms, we see this phenomenon even down to the microbial level, as is evidenced in quorum sensing. Why are people made to feel guilty for this natural inclination? Why is nationalism fine and even encouraged for some, but not for others?

And why don't liberals like free speech if they really want everyone to have a voice?

Progressives and classists feign concern and ideals of egalitarianism for all, while simultaneously setting themselves apart, which then exposes their faux unity for everyone to see.

>>520745155
Gonna cry, faggot? Gonna shit and cum, too?

>>520745212
see >>520744893 and >>520741991.

I mean unless you made that post attempting to promote the interests of communists then you committed a violent self-own.

>>520745280
You realize the US government's interpretation of the 14th amendment is illegal right

>>520745313
I dunno, how come you are having this conversation with yourself? With people who do not exist other than in your own mind?

Do you see how you are talking to yourself here? Instead of talking to the actual leftist whose in this thread? So maybe the problem is with you.

>>520745313
You pigs looted, killed, raped, and exploited people of color around the world. Yall need to die. Whiteness needs to die and every white roach needs a bullet.

>>520745351
OK. Cool dude. "The law is illegal". Nice story. Anyway, moving on.

>>520745280
Name one narrative you midwit. Does the news tell me that other races are a separate species, for example? I grew up in a white country. That country is gone, thats not a narrative. You're an obvious shill

>>520745072
Then how come all those "high caste" jeets still prefer to invite over billions of "low caste" jeets to flood their new home countries rather than insisting they close the gates after them?
Face it, jeets are loyal to India as Chinese are loyal to China. Once they gain a little power abroad they will immediately show their true nature and begin aiding their kin at the cost of the company's future.
Their kin being their people back home, NOT the fellow members of the board.

>>520743660
You really know very very little.
I can't believe Americans made someone like you the mayor of New York, a literal fucking retard.

>>520745455
Yes the 14th amendment which gave slaves freed in the civil war citizenship was never meant to apply to brown people around the world and Jews

>>520745455
>>520745351
If you want to talk about the 14th amendment, then I should note that ending it is not going to do even 1 material thing for ending US's immigration crisis. I mean have fun, but you're only creating a permanent underclass of workers who have no rights. Your economy is still going to be hopelessly dependent on those workers until you abolish capitalism.

>>520737886
>>520738139
>>520738305
>>520738492
>>520738575
>Threadly REMINDER:
This is a jew chat bot that spams here commonly. Until the malicious subhuman kike(s) responsible can be tried and publicly executed, simply identify the bot and move on.

>>520745484
That's right, its gone. Fuck you gonna do about it? Throw pig white babies in the garbage.

>>520745552
Okay so you admit that most people in the US are here illegally if you interpret the 14th amendment as being for black slaves

>>520745515
see >>520745552 I really have nothing else to say about the 14th amendment. Not sure what it has to do with this discussion. 100% of US immigration is the responsibility of the right. It does not bare relevance to me that the US news is telling people differently. US news is owned by capitalists and relentlessly pushes far right agendas.

>>520745630
That has nothing to do with comments I wrote to you.

I have no interest in having a conversation with you that is IRL a conversation you're having with yourself.

>>520745638
But it was Democrats that created open borders and started saying all the illegals in the US. Like mexicans, are actually Americans

>>520745714
Well thats your brainwashing as an American. I've been over this 1000 times in this thread and dont really want to repeat myself again.

>>520745327
the post speaks for itself
leftists/socialists and elitists (of all economic tiers and of all colors) would censor their opposition in a heartbeat despite crying about the importance of free speech
yes both poor and rich classes are loaded with people that don't work but receive much of the money issued
welfare for the fraudulent poor (able-bodied people getting EBT)
and welfare for the rich (QE is UBI for the NYFed)
eventually these two tumors will grow so large they will no longer be able to be ignored or paid

we are now issuing debt to pay the interest on debt

/pol/ can only endlessly repeat whatever narrative is fed to them by the US news

>>520745423
oh look it's the post police lol

>>520745782
Your post, on every level, is a non response to my post, or any of my posts.

>>520745825
You are not engaging in any form of a conversation with other human beings.

>>520745777
How have I been brainwashed when it was official Democrat policy during civil rights, which bankrupted the US, to import brown people like Mexicans?

Once more, I am thinking I should just sign off.

>>520745552
>ending US's immigration crisis.
Scratch a lib and a fascist bleeds. We see you.

>>520745489
>poos imported themselves
Millions of shitskins have been imported legally into the west by white traitors and kikes, it wasn’t that long ago MAGAs darling Elon Musk was calling for the importation of millions of more poos into America because he considered the average white American to be sub human

>>520745945
You've been brainwashed to blame democrats for your problems when in reality you live in a capitalist country noted for its far right politics and 80-years-long imperialistic war against communism and any country exhibiting even mild sympathy for communism.

>>520746006
>Legally
They're using an amendment from the civil war meant for niggers lol

>>520736196 (OP)
>This is done so they never unite on the basis of class, and overthrow the people who hold power: the wealthy.
typical jewish shit
nobody is against righteous and just rulers and patricians
what people fucking hate is you god damned jews.
the jews need to be destroyed utterly and to the last
the shitskins and sand niggers, subhumans and rotten billionaire bastards and pedos can be dealt with after the jews are destroyed.

>>520746046
Then how do you explain socialists like the Democrat party opening US borders in the 60's if the US is fascist

>>520746046
>>520745945
PS...as far as your bizarre beliefs about US immigration crisis starting in the 60s...I mean its a wild level of being massively uninformed >>520739428.

>>520746106
view >>520746118. Basically, you are like the epitome of an MKULTRAd American.

>>520745561
Well you're a commie, y'all killed more non whites and whites than the Nazis and capitalists combined, so it's no surprise you have even child murder fantasies

>>520746159
Mexicans wouldn't be legal citizens in the US until civil rights

>>520746159
>>520746118
>>520746106
I'm sorry for the 3 replies, but I should note, because I am guessing you won't put this together on your own, that the information in that graph is not per capita. So per capita mass immigration was far higher in the past than it was even in modern times.

>>520746185
I mean, this is just classic /pol/ response where you get fundamentally BTFOd by real facts, and data, and then you just write back in some total non sequitur, that has nothing to do with me or my discussion.

>>520746241
You know that ports like NYC are illegally letting immigrants into the country, right?

>>520736196 (OP)
https://pastebin.com/ZYYe5kMc

This document synthesizes evidence from architecture, philosophy, quantum physics, neuroscience, and occult practice to demonstrate that modern surveillance systems function as mass ritual magic through consciousness manipulation. By tracing the connection from Bentham's Panopticon through Foucault's analysis to digital surveillance and quantum observation principles, we reveal surveillance as a spell-casting mechanism operating at planetary scale.

>>520736196 (OP)
It's your own fault. The biggest consumers of identity politics are the far-left and you spend every day in-fighting over pronouns and what objects you can stick inside your ass.
Here's your Democratic Socialism bro:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPLQNUVmq3o
Then you have the tankies, who are all brown or 300lb swamp hags (at-least in my country, looking at you CPGB-ML.)
Basically, you're repugnant to ordinary people and they will never vote for you, not for any ideological reason, but because you're cringe.

>>520746295
View >>520746283.

>>520736196 (OP)
https://pastebin.com/SKT8RDbu

The "panopticon" designed by Jeremy Bentham and constructed at Stateville Penitentiary was not primarily a surveillance mechanism—it was a **frequency weapon** disguised as prison architecture. This document traces the lineage of electromagnetic frequency knowledge from ancient Egyptian and Babylonian priesthoods, through the Levitical priesthood, preserved by Freemasons, weaponized by Bentham, tested at Stateville through malaria experiments, and continued by modern DARPA neuroweapons programs. Every component is documented through primary sources, scientific research, and historical records.
**Core Finding:** Knowledge of biological frequency manipulation is **ancient**, has been preserved through **secret societies**, and continues in modern military applications under different terminology.

>>520746283
Civil rights gave Mexicans citizenship using an amendment from the civil war meant for nigger slaves

>>520746334
Another post brought to you by US MSM. In this case with the anon unintentionally even posting a video made by US MSM.

>>520736196 (OP)
This is complete opposite of reality.

“Class conflict” is literally to divide rich whites from poor whites so the cultural Marxists can get their way and attract poor whites into the Democratic Party.

Wealth inequality is a fake issue

>>520746379
100% of the immigrants in America are here because of the capitalists. That's you. Your people. No one else to blame for that but yourself no matter how hard you try, or how hard US MSM propagandizes the public otherwise, too

>>520746428
Just look at this comment.

Just look at the hard, cold reality of political rightists unintentionally being revealed.

>>520746490
Maybe you should read the constitution, the law of the land, and then you will understand how most of the people in the US calling themselves immigrants are illegals which were illegally given citizenship with socialist democrat party policies

Then tell me it was the capitalists that brought the illegal economic migrants here that hate america

I mean anyone who walks away from this thread thinking anything other than "damn, OP was 100% spot on" obviously wants to be abused and used.

>>520746644
Not only does your comment have nothing to do with the comment you wrote in response to, but you are the same poster who was talking to me above, but with your IP switched. By my count, this is the 3rd time at least that you switched your IP.

How much clearer do you want to make it to everyone that you are a bot?

>>520746118
You are so brainwashed by the media it’s not even funny, you’re a perfect NPC drone.

Literal bootlicker who wants to be oppressed by the system

>>520746882
>the capitalists brought the mexicans into the US
actual it was mexico being an giant unstable shithole full of worthless beaners

PS FYI people, you may not want to face it, but you've got to wake up to the reality of both bots and paid posters.

>>520745443
Communist China murdered 10s of millions of it's own people. Like communist Russia did. Africans trafficked their own people for millennia, and made a lot of money. Muslims spread through war and bloodshed , one of India's most sacred text starts out with a god describing the necessity of war, etc. The only reason there are so many people alive today is because of white colonialism.

>>520746926
It was just you and the capitalists who programmed you.

>>520746987
Your historical materialism kind of falls apart if you spend 5 minutes on wikipedia actually looking up history

The US didn't import mexicans, they flooded into the US after their failed state crumbled, they weren't considered US citizens until 1965

>>520746971
This genuinely reads like boomer US coldwar propaganda comedy

>>520747057
You were already disproven so many times, under multiple IPs.

>>520747057
>>520747138
I mean, how many times do you want me to just keep emptily repeating myself to you?

>>520747138
Nope. In 1952~ the US government now taken over by democrat socialists began pushing for civil rights and removed the barriers to mexican legal immigration into the US

The man that introduced the mass amnesty bill in 1965 was a jew which spent his entire life preventing illegal alien jews living in slums on the east coast from being deported by the US government

Anybody that was made "american" in 1965 is a literal fucking gypsy

>>520746971
Didnt ask mayo cracker. Shut the fuck up before you get iryna'd.

>>520747267
OK. US had mass immigration for the entire 250 years of its existence. Immigration is the result of capitalism. US was openly involved in the coldwar when you're telling people "socialists" were controlling it. And this is just the start of what's insane and wrong about your posts but I really do not want to keep on repeating myself. Not to mention a republican president. Please stop reposting your pointless ahistorical bullshit

>>520747420
And here's where you're ignorant of US mass immigration, it wasn't legal and it was mostly concentrated in ports like NYC. Italian immigration is about as questionable as jew or mexican when you actually start looking at it

>>520745777
That is not brainwashing spic that is truth.

>>520747420
>US had mass immigration for the entire 250 years of its existence.

No it did not. Fucking dumb.

>>520747294
>>520745975
>>520745561
>>520745443
>>520745155
There's probably a non-0 number of people on this board, who are the same types of people to be fooled by US propaganda, who don't understand the person doing this is a republican political propagandist.

>>520747554
>>520747504
The US had immigration for its entire 250 year history >>520739428. The immigration happens because of capitalism. Immigration is required by capitalism. Not optional. No one's responsible for mass immigration but the right. You are the arsonists who pretend to be the firemen. Once more I will note that the info in those graphs are not per capita, so back in the 19th century we, in fact, had far more immigration per capita than we do even in modern times.

I repeat myself, and you pretend not to see it, because you are bots, who are only here to push the propaganda you are programmed to / paid to.

>>520747420
Keep watching cnn

>>520747748
Except the US had laws for immigration even when it was being flooded by italians and irish which were being ignored by cities like new york

>>520747748
Put your fucking mouth on the curb scumbag.
It did not have mass immigration for its entire history, that is simply a lie you need your knee caps broken.

>>520747748
>>520747504
>>520747554
There's no capitalism without mass immigration. It collapses almost overnight without mass immigration. So everyone who you see calling themselves "fascists", "white nationalists", "nazis", or "racists" or anything else? They're the ones that are responsible for immigration. No one but them. Only them.

And Americans don't know this because they are brainwashed idiots. In the same way /pol/acks pretend to be antisemitic, but then inevitably propagandize people to vote for the world's most frothing zionist.

>>520747594
>liberal advocating for settlers to be allowed to exist
Scratch a liberal, a fascist bleeds. Kill white babies.

>>520747748
>>520747818
Here's some AI

>the US had immigration laws in place even during the 19th-century influx of Irish and Italian immigrants, but
enforcement and restrictions varied significantly, and these laws were often ignored or overwhelmed by the sheer volume of newcomers and the local control of ports like New York
>states and cities were largely responsible for enforcing immigration rules, which often resulted in inconsistent application and lax enforcement.
>Ports like New York had their own immigrant processing systems, but they were overwhelmed by the sheer volume of people arriving

Irish and italians were illegal immigrants

>>520747877
>>520747818
>>520747757
Like I said, you guys just pretend not hear the things I say because IRL you're open borders supporters, bots and paid posters, who are only here on this board pretending to be something you are not. Everyone who propagandizes on the right pretends to be something they are not. Because its so easy for them to fake a little racism in order to convince low-information, low-education, uninformed voters to vote for capitalism. And, if you can understand that, therein lies the entire US propaganda apparatus. Its unfortunate.

>>520747943
see >>520748077.

>>520745912
I am here to/ and to be inform/ed, enlighten/ed, remind/ed, and for a generally more-elevated discussion.

>>520748077
Irish and italians and jews are illegal immigrants to the US, same with mexicans

stick that in your pipe socialist

Is there anything else to say to you people? I mean you are literally a collection of the most singularly full of shit individuals ever. In the entirety of human history.

>>520748221
yet here you are
and
/pol/ is not one person

>>520748221
Yeah. Get out white bitch.

>>520748221
>uses historical materialism, a dead ideology to explain everything
try reading something that hasn't been refuted

I mean, is there any level on which your propaganda is not 100% easily BTFOd? Nope. No matter how much its proven to you that you are making your own problems through capitalism, do you ever stop and say "whoa, we were wrong! we need to change!"?

Nope. Know why? There's only 1 reason why. Because no 1 here honestly gives a damn about even 1 of the problems they supposedly give a damn about. Its all just bullshit they made up and realized was used to manipulate low-information voters in to voting for capitalism.

I am sorry. I know uneducated people hate being described as "uneducated", and it makes them feel people like me are patronizing or elitist. I understand that. But you know what? I am not the one who is preying on your lack of education in order to fuck you out of whatever little bit of value you have left in America and then convince you to blame leftists and jews for all of the cruel things I've done to you.

>>520748495
Can you explain how capitalism made democrats illegally interpret the US constitution to open US borders?

>>520748495
The reality of things is they are laughing at you, behind your back, everytime you get fooled by their bullshit. Laughing in their ivory towers among themselves, and saying "these idiots are so stupid. They will never catch on" I mean. Thats not lie. They genuinely do laugh at the very uneducated white working class people they're famous for pandering to in precisely this manner.

>>520748495
>>520748679
I am just a genuine person. I cannot pucker up and kiss ass in the way right-wingers can. No one can. Right-wingers are the masters of the glibness. The masters of patronizing uninformed Americans with whatever they want to hear. We're no good at it on the left, because our whole thing just revolves around trying to tell you whats true rather than just what you want to hear

>>520748077
I am for open borders (of hard working people who don’t commit crime, I.e European) and free market capitalism because I’m not an uneducated historically illiterate idiot.

Only stupid people don’t like capitalism. They’re economic illiterates

>>520748790
>liberal trying to evangelize to racial settler trash
We see you. You will be removed from this stolen land.

>>520748931
You are what every poster on this board is. You are just the only 1 willing to admit it openly.

>>520748931
>yt filth dont commit crime
The existence of mayo cavemen is a crime.

>>520748998
>>520748931
Except you don't only support European immigration, since there are no such people who want to downgrade their quality of life by coming to America. That much is just an empty pander I missed upon the 1st reading of your comment. So nevermind about you being the only honest 1.

>>520749108
>>520748998
>>520748931
We had only European immigration to America until the day came when America no longer could get enough Euro immigrants to fulfill the needs of capitalism.

Then the US had to take in people of other races. I am not opposed to that policy. But once more the only people who are ultimately responsible for it are the people on /pol/ who pretend to be viciously opposed to the policy

>>520736196 (OP)
>>520736196 (OP)
>>520736196 (OP)
Daily reminder that all the "no tail" and furfag posts are made by VPN niggers of a troon squad from iDrama and Valent Projects cuckademics to normalize degeneracy across the board.
Same trannies who shill for Jewkraine and make the /uhg/ threads btw.
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/518123762/#518129824
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/518281658/#518287969
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/518256371/#518256990

>>520749108
>since there are no such people who want to downgrade their quality of life by coming to America
white subhumans from eastern europe come to turtle island all the time to colonize.

>>520749316
>>520749108
>>520748998
>>520748931
And if you lived in a communist country there would be NO immigrants. Period. Communist countries have no immigration. Communist countries are the only countries with no immigration. So none of these "white nationalists" really fucking care about white nationalism. Otherwise they'd be communists. But they're not. They are never, and that's because its all a fucking grift to manipulate the masses in to supporting capitalism on the basis of identity politics

Basically anyone you see telling you they want to stop immigration, but also not being a communist, is a bullshit artist who has beguiled the world with their lies.

Yes, communism means no immigrants. No, my belief in communism or its associated closed borders does not make me on any level a believer in racism.

>>520749421
Immigration is white scums just deserts. whites can't be communists you fucking disgusting liberal. Speak ill of any socialist country as a white subhuman and you should be shot.

100% of communist countries have no immigrants.
100% of capitalist countries have open borders.

Yet somehow the right still wants you to believe its "jews" and "the left" who are responsible for all of the problems in America. Because its all fucking fake, and the harsh reality is almost no one on /pol/ genuinely wants closed borders. Unless they're communists.

>>520749108
Literally every white Canadian or European would do anything to get into America. America has a 100x higher quality of life than those socialist ratholes

>>520749686
>>520749571
But you will NEVER get mass deportations. Never. That will never happen in the USA no matter what. Put that one out of your mind. If someone promises you that, then you must immediately recognize them as a full-of-shit demagogue. Even if you implemented a total communist government tomorrow, you would only get an end to the further immigration.

>>520749421
Because we’re not just white nationalists we also want to create a good nation.

A communist society that’s all white is still a shithole with no freedom

>>520749316
>I am not opposed to that policy
Ah, and in there lies the rub. You blame (correctly) capitalists for all the rampant immigration problems of this nation, yet you admit that you dont mind them at all. Thus, if you were in charge you wouldnt do a single thing about all the spics and niggers and chinks Im forced to rub shoulders with every fucking day, correct?
>This is CAPITALISTS fault!
Yes we established this, but what will you do about it?

>>520749769
>>520749686
>>520749571
I don't personally think we should be deporting people...but instead fixing problems which make us rely on mass immigration in the first place.

>>520749896
>>520749769
>>520749686
>>520749571
I guess good news, though...we're not deporting people! The US media is only pretending we are in order to make more babyboomers vote for Trump, or whoever his republican successor is. Its all a sham. There is literally no meaningful change in immigration enforcement from Biden.

>>520736196 (OP)
Stfu commie

>>520749850
You're an openborders scam artist who pretends to be racist on the internet in order to con white people into voting for capitalism, which you know will then lead to more mass immigration.

You are the world's worst bullshit artist. Your grift only works because your people privately own the entire big tech, media, academic, entertainment apparatus, and every other important institution in America

>>520749686
Alright im gonna drop the LARP for a second. You make a good point on capitalism promoting immigration for GDP. That is why I am anti capitalist myself, because capitalism as a system needs endless growth to sustain itself.
However, racial communists in the US literally scream to dismember and behead white children, and they are comprised of my racial enemies, so I do not support "communism" either. I DO however support a planned centralized economy, and 100% TND.
I also dont recognize "americanism" as valid anymore. Its a fragmented identity only held up by race blind boomers, who have no actual values, culture, or identity beyond "MUH MURICA"
Which has always been a raceless, identityless shithole. It started by absorbing other Whites, and now it absorbs shitskins. All of american history is which group immigrated and replaced the other.

>>520750125
>>520749850
>You're an openborders scam artist who pretends to be racist on the internet in order to con white people into voting for capitalism, which you know will then lead to more mass immigration.
>You are the world's worst bullshit artist. Your grift only works because your people privately own the entire big tech, media, academic, entertainment apparatus, and every other important institution in America
And they all say, in unison, "don't blame the right for immigration!"

>>520750174
You're not anticapitalist. Your politics, as a fascist, exist only to promote capitalism with racism and other idpol. Other things you say about yourself are empty pandering.

>>520749896
We need to encourage higher domestic birthrates

>>520750264
No. You need to abolish your beloved capitalist economic system which is predicated on a false presumption of infinite growth.

>>520750354
>>520750264
You need to do that rather than herd humans like cattle and try to convince them to breed in order to make more new slaves for you to profit off of, you sick fuck.

Though its worth noting your system also imposes financial hardships on people that make it impossible for them to afford children.

It doesn't matter. No one on /pol/ is the popular image of an isolated, confused, socially awkward autist who is just vulnerable to certain forms of propaganda. Almost everyone here is a predatory shark who is either programmed or paid to promote propaganda.

>>520750125
>pretends to be racist on the internet
I dont have to pretend

As for the rest of your post, I can tell you now that you are making a lot of assumptions, not that you'll believe me of I told you about myself. And by avoiding adressing anything in my post, Im fairly certain that you'd be worse for me as the current government.

>>520750252
>fascists are pro capitalist
Explain exactly. How? I don't support free market. I dont support immigration to sustain a GDP. Id rather live in a poor White shithole than a rich liberal multicultural area. I support identity politics, because I am White and I want a White country. Not necessarily "america", which has always been an economic zone, so something new.
How is that capitalism?
>you dont support workers owning the means of production, therefore, you are a capitalist
Every communist country is "capitalist" by that point. Soviets (as in workers councils, not the country) were an utter disaster.

>>520750591
You do have to pretend. Your racism is just 100% empty pandering. Brutally obvious.

>>520750640
view >>520750252. There's nothing else for me to say in response to your predictable "nazis are socialists because its in the name" grift.

>>520750697
>nazis were socialists bc its in the name
Only giga retarded boomers say that. Nazis were third positionist corporatists who worked with american execs bc they had racial views. However, today, corporations promote anti White ideology, so they are no longer of use.

>>520750697
>>520750640
You say yourself you support identity politics. Identity politics are the tool by which the capitalist class are able to manipulate the public in to voting for capitalism, so no one who promotes identity politics realistically gets to pretend they are "anticapitalist". Making that claim is an empty political pander to uninformed voters.

>>520750662
Ok fag face, want to meet irl?

>>520750534
So why waste your time here? Why not post on twitter, hell I think its twice as racist as /pol/ these days.

>>520750834
You're not anticorporate in any way. Every corporation in the US is promoting your fascist views. Also view >>520750835

/pol/ pretending to be "anticorporate" is another 1 of the funniest and most obvious panders to the infamous low-information voter.

>>520750835
>Identity politics are the tool by which the capitalist class are able to manipulate the public in to voting for capitalism,
Then why is it that Lenin specifically screamed for nationalism for the oppressed? Irish nationalism used to be huge among the Left. Black nationalism still is, and anti White sentiment is huge among the american left.
Not so much the European or even Latin american, because they see racism as "outdated", but there are a few retarded indigenists here and there. The point is, the American Left is explicitly anti White.

>>520751052
Oh, are we doing /pol/ pseudohistory now? Yeah nothing about Lenin bares anything in common with you, or anyone who promotes fascism on /pol/.

>>520746006
That's the whole point, white people have lost their in-group loyalty and we're all suffering for it.
The only time a group with a healthy tribe-mentality invites foreign races into their country is when they wish to use them for (semi-)slave labor.
Chinks using Africans to mine their resources or Saudis inviting jeets to build their stadiums and taking their passports away so they can't run, shit like that.

Only white people go and invite thirdies into their countries and give them even more rights than the natives have. Then they act shocked when those thirdies take them for all they're worth.
You wouldn't have to tell the Saudi's or the jews that it might be a bad idea to make niggers their equals.

>>520750923
Like I said, I am a fascist. The only reason why I am anti capitalist is because I am anti liberal. Corporations that support racial cleansing are good. Corporations that dont, are bad. This view necessitates a complete death of laissez Faire, because certain views shouldn't be allowed to be uttered.