Thread 520747097

>In 1914, I am an 84 year-old monarch with less than 2 years to live on this earth
>To put that in perspective, I am so old that I was a thirty five year old man at the time John Wilkes Booth shot Lincoln in the theatre and I now live in the era of Henry Ford and silent movies
>I am older than Joe Biden and modern medicine does not even exist yet. I outlived Queen Victoria in pure lifespan. Basically, I am impossibly old.
>But for my final act, to avenge my son's death, I will kill or maim 40 million Europeans and set in motion the events that end European civilization and empire as we know it.
>No, I won't stay to see the end of it. I will fuck off and die in 1916 before the worst of the war. It's not my problem. Fuck you.
>*wipes Serbia off the map and exits stage right*

Was he justified? Would you do the same?

>wipes Serbia off the map
it was looking like an easy no, but this makes it actually quite difficult

>>520747097 (OP)
It was bound to happen anyway, territorial wars happened all the time in Europe, the only reason why so many died in the great war was due to technological advancements in military tech

After his bitter defeat by Emperor Napoleon III at the battle of Solferino- which would be the largest battle on Europe until the First World War, and the last whose armies were led directly by opposing monarchies, Joseph wrote to his wife Elisabeth
"I have learned much and experienced much, and I know what it's like to be a beaten general."
He had a long and interesting life, saw many changes, and faced countless tragedies- both personal and national, he struggled through them all, until the ramifications of his last mistake outlived him. One of the best bits of historical footage is Franz Joseph inspecting new airplanes.

>>520747325
It was France and Britain sticking their nose into things that didn't convern them. If they had just left well enough alone it would just be "The German-Russian war of 1914" and a footnote in the history books

>Erm, were you aware it was GERMANY who declared war on FRANCE?????
Yes, and why would they have done that? They're just dumb and thought a two front war would be fun and profitable right? Why mobilized their army first? Why did Germany even feel the need to come up with the Schlieffen Plan in the first place? If Germany had focused entirely on Russia and never declared war would France have just done nothing?

>>520747097 (OP)
>I will kill or maim 40 million Europeans
britain and russia did this thoughbeit, much like in the next war

>>520748076
>It was France and Britain sticking their nose into things that didn't convern them.
European great powers have been doing that since the dawn of civilization on the continent. Like that anon said, it was bound to happen.

>>520747097 (OP)
The AH empire had right to retaliate. It's the Russians that turned a regional retaliation over an assassination into a world war.

>>520747097 (OP)
Most likely faked his death, shooter was a stooge who shot blanks. Fake shit all around, both wars were completely fake and gay.

>>520747097 (OP)
Royalist reasoning sounds odd to modern ears, but please recall that most people who have ever lived have lived under monarchies, and, in those cultures, sacrificing armies and large portions of society, as well as destroying other nations, was a rational and equitable response to an egregious attack on the royal family like assassinating the heir to the throne. Yes, in royalist reasoning, or in the way of thinking that prevails in an established monarchy that has existed long enough for this way of thinking to become established, even an insult to the king or a prince is cause enough to go to war and end a hundred thousand lives of commoners and mere nobles.
The king, and his entire family -- royalty itself -- is preeminent such that even the highest of nobles is utterly incomparable with the majesty of the monarch or the majesty of any one of his family.
Only a royal has majesty, which is the highest earthly quality a human can have, and this is why "Majesty" is only used in royal titles and not in the titles of nobles.
The preeminence and majestic dignity of the monarch and his family, who share his majestic royal blood, places the monarch as the highest being on earth by far, not just different from all other, lesser humans in degree, but differing in kind, for only the royals have majesty and are absolutely preeminent among human beings. The greatest non-royal duke is, to a kind or a royal family member, like the lowest peasant or even outcast is to a noble duke.
They belong to entirely different orders of being, utterly different ranks of existence.

It's possible franz was born trans. If people were more accepting back then we'd still have an Austria-Hungary today. Sad

>>520747097 (OP)
The Great War wasn't caused by his death or decisions.
When you zoom out, the established leading powers of France, Britain and Russia were never alright with a relatively young power like the German Empire emerging as a strong new rival.
The Germans were always going to try and prove their might against any single one of them sooner or later and none of them could realistically compete with Germany 1 on 1.

>>520750131
It is an artifact of equalitarian republican or democratic (power to the people, or enfranchising the commoners) ways of thinking, as prevailed during the Enlightenment when Jefferson wrote that "All men are created equal," which statement was a direct attack upon the majesty or utterly special rank of royalty (monarchs and their families), to find it strange that so many lives should be sacrificed to avenge the wrongful taking of one life, or to find it strange that men and women should be expected to give up their earthly lives to avenge an insult committed against a royal, i.e. a monarch or sovereign and his or her family who all share in the royal blood.
Only equalitarian sentiment, upon which republics and democracies are based, which systems of government and social ordering make all members of society by giving all of them the vote, are at odds with the position that it is right and good and even a duty of the commoners and nobles to sacrifice themselves to uphold the majesty of the royal family.
In royalist systems and societies, the royal family is anointed by God to be the upholder of God's laws and morals within their realm, such that the monarch is the head of this preeminent and anointed family and all his relatives, from children to cousins, are heirs, in a strict line of succession, to the sovereignty possessed by the monarch.
As the divinely anointed or God's elected leader for a nation, the monarch and the royal line in fact speak and act for God, or on God's behalf, within their realm, which they own completely, such that the monarch owns all real property and every parcel of land held by anyone else within the realm, from the highest noble to the lowest commoners, is in fact the king or queen's own land, own real property, and the holder of that parcel, which is a granted fief, holds that fief at the monarch's pleasure, and it is the monarch's God-given right to repossess anyone's granted land within his or her realm at any time.

>>520751249
The fact that the sovereign allows lords and ladies and even commoners to hold any land in trust, such that a fief or a house with some yard around it is passed on from generation to generation even while the monarch can reclaim that land and evict its tenants at any time, is a testament to the generosity of the monarch, who owns all things within the realm and yet allows others use of them, so that his or her subjects may survive and even thrive, even though the monarch, as exclusive owner of the entire realm and everything in it, could just as well decide not to allow any subject any access to what is ultimately the monarch's own property in perpetuity. All subjects of a king or a queen regnant live and thrive only from the grave of the king or the queen regnant, whose power is so absolute, that is is this preeminent person's God-given right to take away access to any resource within his or her realm, at any time, from any subject.
This is why sovereigns and their families are paid such deep respect. It is by their grace alone that their subjects even have access to the means of subsistence like land on which to grow food. So we kneel and bow to the king or queen regnant, and to all of their family, in gratitude for sharing with us what portion of their own realm they are allowed to access for their own survival and wellbeing.
We may correctly say, then, that every subject lives at the pleasure of the monarch.

>>520751701
*live and thrive only from the grace of the kind or the queen regnant

>>520747097 (OP)
Not all men are equal.
My life is worth more than yours. I will burn entire countries to avenge my blood.

>>520752020
>My life is worth more than yours. I will burn entire countries to avenge my blood.
Hedonistic self-worship detached from the natural order of things
You would do better to sacrifice yourself for your divinely anointed monarch and your royal family above you in the Chain of Being.

>>520747097 (OP)
What is done is done. We should look at the future because it's pretty grim and fighting each others about the past is just a waste of time.

>>520748699
No it didn't, I get you dislike Serbs but Serbia bent over on all points at the ultimatum except one, AH could have easily done an investigation with a co-operative Serbian government into the black hand.
Rogue officers ignoring government policy do not speak for the government and the entire country didn't deserve to be punished for it.

Kaiser Germany and Austria-Hungary should have never been allowed to form. A bunch of sadistic warmongering autists with an autistic school shooter national mentality.

>>520752183
This is the natural order of things, the way the cosmos is constructed such that the closer we approximate its perfection, the better we are and the more good we are doing and the more good there is in the world.
The Great Chain of Being has some precedents in Aristotle's De Anima, where he ranks the Prime Mover, then Man qua rational being, then animal, vegetable, and mineral, each with their own kind of essence, and it also has overtones of Plato's Theory of Forms, such that the true nature of reality is not the sensible world we experience but the perfect models of things that physical things do better or worse in approximating. So, the more out societies align with the natural order as clarified in the Chain of Being the closer to perfection, to ideal reality, which is true reality, we are.

>>520753777
>Kaiser Germany and Austria-Hungary should have never been allowed to form. A bunch of sadistic warmongering autists with an autistic school shooter national mentality.
Just out of curiosity, and I mean no offense and do not intend to suggest anything offensive in asking this, but, based on what you have said and the thinking I can sense behind it, do you incline to believe the United State is a country composed of "a bunch of sadistic warmongering autists with an autistic school shooter national mentality"?
I ask because your description here, of Imperial Germany and the Austro-Hungarian Empire, sounds quite reminiscent of the American Republic.

Blame the russian panslavism.