Thread 520796088

LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/us-navy-working-nuclear-supercarrier-191700134.html

>infrastructure? public works? healthcare? small business subsidies?
>no way, what are you, some kinda communist?
>military-industrial complex welfare?
>LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOO
MIGA mentality is quite a paradox to behold.

>>520796088 (OP)
>Already obsolete by Russian missiles and Chinese tech
Grim

>not making drones
grim

>>520796319
You are the nigger protesting in front of the Apollo 11 launch

>>520796088 (OP)
A completely unmanned AI controlled drone carrier?

>>520796088 (OP)
Is this AI? Why are they obstructing the runway?

>>520796088 (OP)
Yeah we are maintaining our carrier force. The ones from the 70s are starting to show their age

>>520796088 (OP)
Based

>>520796319
>>520796377
brown hands typed this

>>520796463
Holy shit.

>>520796088 (OP)
>ramp status check?

>>520796319
MIGA unironically is a great argument against democracy, why would you let retards who equivocate the moon landing with money printer go brr like >>520796431 have a say in anything?

>>520796088 (OP)
>planned
They're "working" on the ship that was supposed to be in service over 5 years ago and isn't finished yet, not planning a new ship.
retard.

>>520796630
It will be nuclear, this is going to change the world.

>>520796377
We can shoot that shit down with a laser.

>>520796088 (OP)
Rule, America! America rules the waves!

Aircraft carriers? You mean those things that got cucked by Yemeni goat herders?

Im happy the usa is bankrupting itself. The Jewish American empire is evil.

>>520796619
what a thread

>>520796619
Sounds like someone doesn't even have one Supercarrier and is salty about it.

>>520796723
They have been nuclear for half a century. The old Nimitz class had two onboard

>>520796619
The consent is manufactured by cultivating anon's investment in the show, the game, the procession of archetypes to abet an agenda. They are fodder and nothing more, for "democracy" is nothing but window dressing for autocratic rule.
>52% "majority"
>muh mandate
>ping pong back and fourth every 4-8 years
>foment the build up of dialectics
And so it goes.

>>520796088 (OP)
>$500 drone flies up sinks it
Now what?

>>520796845
This one will have fifth generation fighters. Stealth fighters.

>>520796778
Just in time for genius act ramifications, PBDCs, and CBDCs, amirite fellow based reactionary retard? Fuck off.

>>520796088 (OP)
WEE WOO WEE WOO WEE WOO

>>520796906
All of our current carriers can run 5th gen’s already

>>520796524
Settle down there, Achmed.
>>520796431
And?

>>520796088 (OP)
Oh boy, an even bigger glorified RAMP!

Here is the actual story, it's not really a "new" carrier and it was planned over 15 years ago.

>It's another Ford class
>construction began 2009
>was supposed to be in service 2025, delayed until 2027
>the delay is due to difficulty with technical upgrades especially the new electromagnetics on the elevators and launcher

>>520796925
The American empire is objectively evil and the more stupid shit it does the better. They’re paying that Jew lucky palmer 1 million dollars for a drone with 1/10th the payload of $10,000 Iranian shaheed. Shit like this used to make me upset but now i realize the usa is evil so news like this makes me happy.

>>520797042
The new one will have steam catapults instead of shitty electric.

>>520797233
And you think this comes to an end because goycattle plantation takes a back seat and the multipolar world order is rolled out as the currency hegemony wanes/goes digital? Wake up, nigger...

>>520796887
>AIM-174B flies up and sinks it
Now what?

Maybe you should inform honorable central committee of communist party they have wasted billions of silver taels on a butterfly's dream.

>>520796088 (OP)
if america gets involved in a war with a modern military it will be revealed as paper tiger just like russia. you spend a trillion per year and for what? outdated garbage that is 20 times more expensive than it should be, to line the pockets of incompetent industrial complex and lobbyists. i wouldnt be surprised if chinese military is already the strongest in the world. they are the only ones who are innovating these days and know how to build at large scale

>>520796088 (OP)
>public works
>nuclear-supercarrier
yes the navy will build it themselves

>>520797335
the old one had steam catapults. and no, they are going electromagnetic and that's part of the delay, they are having troubles with that.

did you even read the story? you just read the headline didn't you?

>>520797389
I don’t even think an amraam is necessary, CIWS will handle most drone attacks with ease.

>>520797181
>>the delay is due to difficulty with technical upgrades especially the new electromagnetics on the elevators and launcher

Are the osprey and the f-35 really that bad?

>>520796887
do you know how far out that thing would get shot down?

>>520796088 (OP)
>Executive Order To Go Back To Steam Catapults On New Aircraft Carriers Coming: Trump

Someone please explain how this will make America great again

>>520796088 (OP)
first we're going to fire everyone smart
excellent
now we're going to waste everyones time by trying to get retards to spend years of their lives trying to build an aircraft carrier when they dont even know what cement is.

>>520797437
Steam better.

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-promises-executive-order-revert-navy-steam-power-10952517

>>520796088 (OP)
>thailand
>some whore happy to have navy come and fuck her/him again or a cuck

>>520797406
First time i ever agreed with Pratty Bansal

Literally gets rekt by the Dongfeng, which costs what $15M to $100M.

What a waste of money lmao.

>>520797514
The osprey is cool af but it does have some issues for what it is. Would be better to just run sea stallions imo. F35 is pretty damn good and is versatile and cheap.

>>520797661
>>520797639
i know he said that but the article says the delay is in part due to the difficulty with the upgrade to electromagnetic launchers. maybe he meant that for the next carrier since this one started construction 2009 and was not intended for steam, and yeah if they don't have the electromagnetics figured out by then they will have to go back to steam anyways.

>>520797389
>M-MUH JETS!!!!!!!!
Why the seethe, mutt?

>>520797661
Nuclear subs are running on steam.

>>520797877
>F35 is pretty damn good and is versati-ACKKKKKK

>>520797947
Jewmericans when other countries are behind
>HAH suck it up yuropoors/chinks
Jewmericans when theyre behind
>a-actually its better to use outdated 1800s techology
kek cope and seethe mutt animal. China is mogging you as we speak

>>520797342
>multipolar world order
Why stop there, why not nuclear multipolarity?
All those brown shitstained hands reaching for the red button, now that will show the goycattle plantation!

>>520797976
Show French 5th gen

>>520797720
America has been our single most important ally since the cold war, russoids and chingchongs can cope and seethe

>>520798141
I'm guessing you don't know how nuclear reactors operate.

>>520798229
Why cant Americans produce high quality aircraft?

>>520797877
>f35
>cheap
huh? it was supposed to be, but it really isn't.
they do seem to have ironed out its many early flaws though and its pretty good yeah.

f35 costs around 80-100 million with $44,000 an hour cost to fly it. compare that to a super hornet at about 52 milllion and aout $10,000 an hour to fly. or a saab gripen around 30 million with $4,700 per hour flight time.

>>520798158
Not reading your telegram fanfiction. What I stated remains true. Nukes are masonic fearmongering and wars are tax cattle culling. Again, wake up to reality and drop the geopolitical games.

>>520798374
Can I see currently flying Concordes?

>>520798374
Can it fight?

>>520798374
Commercial airliners have remained around the same speed since the 50s, which is below the Mach 1

>>520798423
>they do seem to have ironed out its many early flaws
maybe i spoke too soon... >>520797976

>>520798452
>>520798456
>>520798467
>glownigger jews cohencidentally all post at the same exact time
Tick Tock Ameritranny

>>520796088 (OP)
watch as drones sink this shit easily
america should be making battleships

>>520798537
No just calling you out for being retarded

>>520797976
May we see the critical reports from the Russian and Chinese media to compare?

>>520798141
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, lol.

>>520797828
Gotta hand it to the chinks, "dong fang" is an amazing weapon name. America should introduce the "dick tooth" in response

>>520798537
Sorry retard I should have responded before you posted.

>>520796088 (OP)
90k for a bag of bushings

>>520798493
Ya it's literally a memefighter designed to fight enemies that don't exist under doctrine that's now irrelevant. World's most shortsighted "future war machine". No throw out the a-10s it's fine I'm sure nobody needs close air support.

>>520796088 (OP)
It's going to be the same thing as with every other current project in America
>WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS
>HERE'S ALL THE MONEY
>3 YEARS PASS
>HUH? WHAT PROJECT?
>LISTEN WE'RE GOING TO ANNOUNCE A NEW SUPER CARRIER WEAPONS

Just like all their drone fleets and military parades sponsored by coinbase

>>520796088 (OP)
thas the drone carrier

>>520798629
>STOP STOP!!! JUST FUCKING STOP!!!!
Kek I can feel the mutt seethe radiating from your post.

anyone know her name?

>>520798771
You sure about that? Oh you are? Ok

Why is the Ameritranny army so weak?

>>520798619
The farther they move away from enemy coastlines, the more monstrous the drones become, allowing the fleet's anti-air systems which had been honed during their era of acutual capability to take effect.

>>520798762
>memefighter designed to fight enemies that don't exist under doctrine that's now irrelevant
It was designed to be profitable, and to have all 50 states either deploy them or manufacture part of them, such that no Senator would ever vote for less money for the program.

>>520798427
Not my telegram fanfiction.
YOUR telegram fanfiction.

>>520796088 (OP)
Protoss carrier for drone swarms is what I heard.

>>520798836
>no
I know. So do you think they're also at 90% readiness or do you have a brain?

>>520798762
we'll probably be buying it anyways

a-10 is also a bit of a meme, i know it's a really cool aircraft but the friendly fire rates are so high that the brits serving alongside americans in the middle east would often turn down air support if they knew it would come from the a-10 and just take their chances without it.

>>520798836
They are good at marching, Europeans have a history of marching, the US does not. What was the last conflict the Chinese military was involved in? Losing to the Vietnamese in 1979?

>>520799011
>patriotard seethe

>>520798911
USS Barack H. Obama is next in line

>>520799138
>What was the last conflict the Chinese military was involved in?
The Korean war. And they absolutely wreckt your purportedly "veteran" WW2 troops KEK

>>520799141
>no
So what are you worried about?

>>520799141
who did China copy the catapult if the US isnt combat ready?

>>520799138
>What was the last conflict the Chinese military was involved in?
slap fight against jeets
hand to hand combat against indians near the border

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020%E2%80%932021_China%E2%80%93India_skirmishes

>>520799285
>ignore the 38th parallel!!!!

>>520798951
I mean realistically it was designed to be a utilitarian workhorse that could adapted to any mission with the main advantage being proliferation through ally adoption creating a world wide stockpile of American tech able to be quickly integrated in the event of a world wide conflict... And on every single metric it is an utter failure. It's almost like you can't design a car that's perfect for construction workers, soccer moms, and business moguls without compromising on what each of them actually care about. It's a fucking dog shit concept. Build purpose built aircraft you stupid faggots. You aren't countering your enemies you are building meme wonder waffles.

>>520799309
This should answer your question, Amerinigger

>>520796088 (OP)
Sounds exciting, but it will get bastardized by budgets constraints, while still somehow costing at least 10x over the original budget. It probably will never be used in an operation, unless the US decides to bomb some 3rd world country again, and none of the other carriers are available.

>>520799406
>I mean realistically it was designed to be a utilitarian workhorse that could adapted to any mission
This was the dumb part.
>It's almost like you can't design a car that's perfect for construction workers, soccer moms, and business moguls without compromising on what each of them actually care about. It's a fucking dog shit concept. Build purpose built aircraft you stupid faggots.
Agreed.

>>520799367
>Achkshually getting pushed back is a win
kek

>>520799408
You know it doesn't, mohammed.

>>520799125
You are literally just as fucking retarded as the British then. Don't call in danger close strikes on yourself if you aren't being overrun... What are you trying to say the pilots can't aim... The spray is too wide. Nigger you dumb

it's shocking how many people write comments who clearly never read the article and haven't learned yet that headlines are almost always misleading

>>520799529
China joined war in 3rd i believe

>>520799563
>muttnigger jew cant read
many such cases

>>520799583
>it's shocking how many people write comments who clearly never read the article
Buddy, I've been reading slashdot since the late 90s. Not reading the article is well-established tradition at this point. And nu-/pol/ is all ragebait fake headlines and screenshots anyway.

>>520799529
Looks like America gained half the peninsula. I guess you could seethe more about it idc.

>>520798141
Is that propeller plane one of those submarine-detectors?

>>520796088 (OP)
this is where your money goes

>>520799653
Post anything relevant at all pls.

>>520798964
You are coping.
https://medium.com/centre-for-international-governance-innovation/daniel-araya-transforming-the-united-nations-for-a-multipolar-world-49d5fdf35380

>>520799718
No, it doesnt. Jewmericans and their lapdogs got pushed back when China intervened, pussied out and sued for peace
>>520799729
No, its not. Get your eyes checked JaQuan

>>520799729
AWACS big ass radar that communicates with other planes to send data to them for firing.

>>520799578
i did some quick research to prove you wrong but now i agree with you. while the a-10 does have the highest rate of friendly fire incidents it was still a statistically insignificant number given how many missions it flew of 35 afghan civilians and 10 us soldiers. and this was before 2014 upgrades to the software so it could better identify friend vs foe. ok the a-10 is based you were right nigger

>>520799141
Oooohhhh honolable 5000 year chineee metal air bird CHOP CHOP

>>520796887
A drone doesn't have a payload to punch through 6 inches of steel.

>>520799922
Why are you Ameriniggers such pussies? Even ragheads make you piss your pants.

>>520799285
Korean was was before 79 and they just massively outnumbered the Americans but still couldn't push beyond the 38th parallel.

>>520799851
The US beat the chinks all the way back to chosin from our own shore. Cope all you want but we're still there and all you can do is seethe about it.

>>520799528
Right and if car manufacturers have known for a century you'd think the dumb faggots building TRILLIONS of dollars worth of aircraft wouldn't design a fucking GMC safari covered in "invisible paint" and filled with "smurt computers" designed to fly the drones that will actually be fighting.

>>520799904
The a-10 is based but I do understand replacing them as in an actual shooting war it’s not gonna do well. We see how the frogfoots did in Ukraine, these low slow CAS planes need to be uncontested.

>>520796409
Yeah the chink drone swarms are scary

>>520799904
Kek thanks bro. You a rare breed these days. And yes they absolutely fucking dominate at what they do. Retiring them without a meaningful replacement seems like signing up to murder your own troops for pride.

>>520796088 (OP)
Based

>>520796088 (OP)
The problems this piece of shit is having are ones that President Trump questioned and said he's going to tell them to go back to steam and hydraulics, which are reliable and easy, if sometimes time consuming, to fix. All of this magnet shit just isn't ready.

>>520800225
china has a much simpler but still effective em launcher that seems to be ready. maybe you could copy them

>>520800225
>go back to steam and hydraulics
drumpf might be retarded

At least at this stage, Chinese don't think they can win cheaply using drones too.
For example, in a scenario where the U.S. counters a Chinese invasion of Taiwan, the Taiwan Strait's width alone is 130 km.
Due to insufficient range and vulnerability to electronic jamming, it's fundamentally difficult to simply fly civilian drones directly from mainland China into combat. Instead, specialized long-range military drone, the kind mutt glowniggers have favored in the Middle East, must be deployed, causing drone prices to skyrocket and making them scarce commodities.
That's why not only the U.S. but China too is pouring massive amounts of money into aircraft carrier strike groups.
The vast ocean complicates matters. Aircraft carriers, which maneuver at over 30 knots on the sea and deploy carrier-based aircraft to perform every complex task from air superiority combat to ground attack support, remain pain in the asses, and they don't believe drones alone can stop them or replace everything.

>>520796377
spbp
>>520796524
jew
>>520796734
No we can't. Not really.

>>520800225
>go back to steam and hydraulics
A Chinese company now export the whole system.

>>520800354
if they can't get the em launcher to work reliably though how is that trumps fault? if they can't get it to work they will have to go back to steam. or copy chinas em launcher if they can figure out how that works or steal the blueprints like china is always doing to the us

>>520796088 (OP)
but whats the purpose? replacing an old one?
theyre only really useful for bombing poor countries but you dont need a billion of them for that, most countries do fine with just one

>>520796377
Remember when the Ukraine fought Russia and held on for already three years piling up over a million dead Russ bros armed with all that high tech Russian Gear? I bet china is even more of a paper tiger.

>>520800433
Nigger figure out what you are trying to say before you write a book

>>520800524
>piling up over a million dead Russ bros
Lol if you believe this

>>520800524
Everybody's a paper tiger, anon. They won't be satisfied until nuclear winter.

>>520796088 (OP)
Just in time for the total collapse of the United States I guess. What soft drink company will we sell it to?

>>520796431
you’re the dumb goy at the VA missing a leg lmao

>>520796431
desu the moon landings were a huge waste of money

>>520796088 (OP)
The USS Sunk By China

>>520797406
Care to provide an example of who such a modern military adversary might be?

>>520800523
To secure shipping routes, especially transnational ones. Have you seen the pirates we've been striking the past several weeks in the gulf alone?

>>520800778
>rat dun bit my sister nel
>but whitey on duh moon

>>520797877
53s don't have the range necessary. That's why they've developed the CMV-22 to replace the C-2s The C-2 apparently falls short accommodating F-35 engines. The F-35 has been nothing but trouble in every aspect of fielding it.

>>520799729
Chinese copy of the E-2 Hawkeye AEW&C.

>>520797406
You have no idea what your talking about lol

>t. Knower of MIC

>>520801015
Kek he can't because while America is retarded... It's still the strongest retard.

Leonidas

https://www.epirusinc.com/electronic-warfare

Bullfrog
https://www.allencontrolsystems.com/products/bullfrog-m2

And
https://mssdefence.com/product/droneshield-dronegun-mk4/
Are all relatively recent additions that have been copied by foreign actors so at least somebody seems to be on the ball

>>520800345
I think I'll refrain from trusting my life to Chinese designs, kthx.

>>520800530
The combination of electronic warfare and the need for larger drones to carry fuel means that the advantages of drones effective in land warfare—low cost, mass deployment, ease of operation, and small size and relatively high concealability—are almost lost in maritime warfare.

>>520798141
Jews steal our tech and sell it to china. You cant have a copy better than the original kek. But all of power generation is boiling water, so your demoralization only works on the ignorant.

>>520801871
Kek nope. Still nigger tier retarded. You are implying something designed to take out a tank... I'll give you say a piece of 9mil equipment for fun. Should cost the same as something designed to destroy an aircraft carrier worth 13 billion. Yup. Nigger you are retarded

>>520799861
>>520801691
Ah, I looked and up and was thinking of the P-8

>>520796088 (OP)
if it is not a 100% drone supercarrier of drones, not impressed

>>520802183
>was thinking of the P-8
I could somewhat forgive you for thinking of the P-3, but the P-8? Admittedly, I would love to see one of those try to operate from a carrier. We already know they don't make good submarines.

>>520802407
>forgot to shut the screen door
Many such cases

>>520796431
No one ever landed on the moon retard. They just stole the money and told you they used it to go to the moon, lol.

>>520802640
Imagine being American and denying your countries greatest achievement. Did someone on YouTube convince you it wasn't retarded to think that? Your brown skin is showing

It should be uss Barack obama since he is the first black president.

>>520802407
Yeah no, my bad again. Just typed in 'submarine detecting plane' and P-8 came up but didn't bother looking at it. I forgot they finally came out with a new one in the past like decade since they had used the old one for so damn long. Doesn't look like a P-3 anyway but I just for some reason thought they looked more unusual than they actually do and this was some Chinese new gen take on those.

>>520802166
Seriously, why is every leaf so retarded? Let me rephrase that: Cheap drones are even less useful over water. And expensive drones that cost as much as fuckings anti-ship missiles are practically pointless.
The enlarged long-range versions of existing quadcopter drones for naval warfare are nothing more than World War II propeller planes, and even with jet propulsion, they remain nothing more than expensive anti-ship missiles.
80 years ago, the Japanese carried out similar swarm attacks, and the Soviet Union replaced them with swarms of massive anti-ship missiles.
To counter this, carrier strike groups have been equipped with massive anti-aircraft systems.
Drones are certainly a threat, capable of damaging equipment including aircraft. However, a single small drone cannot sink a modern aircraft carrier in one strike. Naval warfare is never cheap.
When the carriers being operated near coastlines in a near-fixed manner for a sham ground attack, only to be chased around by pathetic muzzies' dogshit drones are not because carriers are obsolete but because they are fake and gay, and not fighting a real war.

>>520798374
concordes are also way more expensive and less efficient than subsonic airliners, they're a rich man's toy at best, not practical for people who actually need to make a living.

none of this shit matters
we need antigravity UFOs deploying targeted beam weapons that can deactivate nukes

someone has them: is it us? that is the only question

>>520803193
>Seriously, why is every leaf so retarded?
Leafs are Indians.

>>520803193
Nigger you are literally retarded. It's all about efficiency and scale. Drones offer precision strike capabilities in a tiny package. That can be extrapolated to any scenario. Your arguments are nigger tier retarded because you claim some off the shelf option can't do blank when the entire point I was making was about how doctrine effects procurement and operations. Why do you think China is moving into drone carriers. A bunch of highly efficient highly precise vectors are clearly harder to counter than one big one. Nice 1995 arguments boomer

>>520796088 (OP)
Dude, there are 3 more aircraft carriers being built right now.
USS John F Kennedy - in the water and doing final fitting out.
USS Enterprise - in the drydock welding the hull sections together.
USS Doris Miller - building hull sections, reactors, etc long lead time items outside of the drydock.
Every 5 years a new CVN is supposed to be built and an old CVN retired. The Democrats and the fucked up contractors put everything behind schedule. The USS John F Kennedy was supposed to be in service last year and the USS Nimitz was supposed to be retired last year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amF25xWhWZI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7A7gNLlHBw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOtK1KOtW-8

>>520796319
KYS retarded commie subhuman

>>520796463
There are two F/A 18 hooked to 2 of the 4 catapults, but 3 helicopters blocking those. Obviously, the helicopters would takeoff, before the aircraft started to launch.

These would get destroyed immediately in ww3. They're for bullying dirt poor countries with oil/near israel
>>520803356
If the super tech is real then it can always be discovered by adversaries

>>520803756
>Drones offer precision strike capabilities in a tiny package
This idiot is seriously what? I'm saying that in a vast ocean, it wouldn't work as a small package. The ocean is huge, so you need massive fuel capacity to fly endlessly searching for enemies, and can't just slap a huge radar onto that drone either, so you end up relying heavily on other massive radar assets. Do you understand?
The bigger it gets, the easier it is for the enemy's radar to spot it, and factoring in countermeasures makes it ridiculously expensive, meaning fewer units can be deployed, reducing its overall effectiveness.
Replacing carrier-based aircraft with expensive but highly capable, autonomous drones is a promising future discussion, but that just acknowledges the effectiveness of the carrier itself. Seriously, please.

>>520796088 (OP)
We should name it Ball Fart.
Imagine how annoyed the enemy would be knowing they're getting killed by "Ball Fart"

>>520796088 (OP)
KEK, we've floated a new "nuclear supercarrier" every 5 years since 1962 but this is the sort of retarded headline the MSM writes? Ridiculous.

>>520804503
You keep acting like I'm retarded because you attribute your dumb ideas to me. Listen island chink. I didn't imply any of what you are saying. China doesn't operate under the same military doctrine as the west. They aren't designing drones for long range search and destroy maritime attacks. I'm glad you have defeated whatever gay head cannon you have created but that isn't the war being prepared for. China isn't about force projection they are focusing on absolute dominance over their sphere of influence. America cares about projecting power. That is the point of aircraft carrier strike groups. They bring the military to you. When someone brings the fight to your doorstep you don't need to go looking for them. You are such a dumb nigger I'm actually impressed you are Japanese

>>520804858
Its not that big compared to an airport

>>520803916
Dude, there are Hornets parked on the jet blast deflectors for those two catapults. This is just for show and to torture the deck crews.

>>520804909
Are you referring to China's doctrine focused on coastal defense?
But as mentioned earlier, even the 130km width of the strait between China and Taiwan is too long a distance for cheap drones that should have rendered existing carriers obsolete. You fucking nigger, you idiot, the conversation is going in circles.
Incidentally, the combat radius of the F/A-18E/F as an aircraft carrier-based fighter is just under 1500km. It flies from an aircraft carrier moving somewhere far out at sea at over 30 knots. Well, the Hornet is quite outdated, though.
There is meaning in them starting to build aircraft carriers, even if what they load onto them will be expensive, highly capable, autonomous drones that seem like a dream for the future.
Damn it, all the leafs are idiots, and those fools pretending to be edgy are no better.

>>520805879
None of this refutes anything I said. No more (((yous))) for disingenuous faggots

>>520805059
Dude... dude... it is in port. When these CVN do a port call, then they move a lot of the aircraft to the flight deck. That means more space in the hanger deck for the shore leave shit or crew members going off the ship and also visitors going into the hanger deck for meetings, press conferences, receptions, etc.

No context

>>520806410
Interesting pic you've chosen when you don't know the difference between a hanger and hangar.

>>520806746
Ya

>>520796319
>infrastructure?
Biden spent 2 trillions on infrastructure - nothing was build.
I hope you die of throat cancer.

Really though

>>520796088 (OP)
Nukilar?

Honestly can't find anything

>>520797406
>mountain jew opinion
Begone retard.

>>520796088 (OP)
Yet White people are not allowed to build nuclear power plants.

I feel like there should be a word for Japanese nigger. Nip isn't harsh enough for how fucking stupid they actually are

>>520796088 (OP)
Where ya goin'?

>>520796088 (OP)
USS GEORGE FLOYD

>>520796088 (OP)
It's coming

>>520806356
Huh, why is China building aircraft carriers then?
What the hell are you doing picking a pointless fight over my counterargument to the claim that drones make aircraft carriers obsolete?

>>520796088 (OP)
They should have a 'Whites Only' aircraft carrier and compare it to a mixed race mutt staffed aircraft carrier.
Performance and morale would be way better in an all White carrier.
Although jews wouldn't provide financing for it then.

>>520796088 (OP)
that's a lot of pilots

Kek the Japanese are now such disgraceful lying niggers. What happened to you. You used to have honor. Now you can't even follow a single conversation without perverting every claim

I'm such a dumb nigger I think China is building aircraft carriers to take Taiwan...

>>520806746
>derr.... derrr... derr.... derrr... shits pants deerrrr..... derrrrrr.
>YoU maDe a tYpOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

>>520807449
Where's the contradiction?
I believe I've been consistent in explaining the relationship between aircraft carriers and drones. You started out just mocking me without presenting any points yourself.

>>520796319
>MIGA mentality is quite a paradox to behold.

It's the same thing I've beheld for the last 39 years of my 39-year life.

Kek aircraft carriers are for force projection as has been made clear you fucking retard. China isn't investing in aircraft carriers the way they are drones and an aircraft carrier doesn't help in any way for a Taiwan invasion which was your whole original point. You have substantiated nothing. You are claiming the dumbest fucking shit in the world which I have now proven to every literate person who can read our conversation. You are nigger tier retarded and should commit seppuku. I'm done responding as you don't make actual points. Bye faggot. Everyone here now thinks less of your gay country.

>>520807860
how does one counter thousand drones?

>>520807624
Using the wrong word isn't a typo.

>>520807955
Microwaves but it's still in infancy.
Leonidas is the current American solution but it hasn't seen combat. Seems effective based on testing but you don't really know without real world deployment. Still could shit the bed

https://www.epirusinc.com/electronic-warfare

>>520796377
Made both miggers and nafoids /k/ope and seethe. Amazing

>>520796088 (OP)
Who's gonna build it?

>>520807955
Israel is currently working on the equivalent of large scale multisensor deployable mesh network which gives crazy good data on both incoming and controlled assets but it requires a massive amount of logistical support... Possibile but more realistic as a base defence grib or something. There is no chance it would just immediately be jammed to shit on the front.

>>520796630
>We told them it was going to be ready 5 years ago lol

>>520796088 (OP)
Stirling engines are already in all submarines and us navy vessels wraped up under classification atomic enrgy is a hoax feee enrgy stolen and fiction ong expensive potemkin style fiction to make it look like Klaus fuchs Edmund kemoer and the compartmented jewish freemasonic ivan rusanov brian way martini goldberg 300 strong arrested jewish freemaosnic traian romanesuc the stupid states the children's museum of the Peter singer brian singer and torvah singer sruoid bitch baby molestinbred ilkiterate jew larpfest

>>520796088 (OP)
yo dawg we heard you like carriers

>>520807860
Yes, I agree with you about the usefulness of aircraft carriers for power projection. Taiwan is an example illustrating the limitations of drones in naval warfare. I'm sorry for getting into a pointless argument.

>>520808604
Can you let the dumb nip know I don't need him to tell me I'm correct I already proved I was.

>>520809138
You're just arbitrarily stirring up an argument about something we both somewhat agreed on that drones don't necessarily make aircraft carriers obsolete and then declaring victory, you piece of shit.

Kek we never agreed on anything. You are now trying to glom on to my points to save face. We aren't arguing. I made a bunch of true statements and then you tried to interject a bunch of dumb nip bullshit. The fun part is I'm actually not talking to you. I'm talking to everyone reading this. You spent an awful lot of effort trying to convince people you aren't stupid... How you think that went? Night faggot

>>520796088 (OP)
waste of money

>>520796319
The dominant sea power has been most powerful economy for all of history.

>>520796088 (OP)
This is the most boomer shit I've seen today

>>520796409
Honestly a dedicated drone carrier would be insane.

>>520796088 (OP)

Arent those things history by now. Its just a large platform for dead Meat.

>>520812284
Even a glide bomb would be nuts against an aircraft carrier considering how cheap they are.
>Drop it in its general direction from 50 miles away
>After a fixed distance of gliding the bomb wakes up and starts heading towards the warmest heat signature in front of it (see: the fucking aircraft carrier)
>????

>>520796088 (OP)
Can’t wait for them to announce the billions of dollars they wasted for it to not work

>>520798762
The A-10 is so shit it's only use was scaring towel heads in cover, it wasn't even useful against armored vehicles because it's accuracy was so shit. Even the most garbage of AA countered it. The only reason it stuck around was boomer like "muh big gun"
It's now being replaced with an armored crop duster.

>>520813444
Your pic is the AT-6 that we were going to use to replace the A-10, but gave them to Afghanistan instead. You're thinking of the Skyraider II.

>>520798374
The juice isn't worth the squeeze. All that engineering effort to shuttle Pajeets between Jew York and Londinistand.

>>520797947
>steam
Fucking everyting is steam!

>>520814194
Crazy, ain't it?

>>520814269
Totally not a scam

>>520796088 (OP)
>LET'S GO FUCK EACH OTHER IN THE BUSSY
i'll pass, fag

>>520796630
>They're "working" on the ship that was supposed to be in service over 5 years ago and isn't finished yet, not planning a new ship.
>retard.
>>520808432
>>We told them it was going to be ready 5 years ago lol
OP just another sexpat ladyboi cocksucker

>>520812169
It would be a single point of failure. Leveraging new us space tech could yield something like a massive canister deorbiting at hypersonic speeds every hour or so that breaks open into however many tons of independent drones.

Things are getting ready to be totally rethought.

>>520796377
>>520796409
>>520796431
>>520796437
>>520796463
KEK
LOL
LMAO
>HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHYAHHA
>KWAB
>ROFL

>>520800619
>nooooooo! Don't believe your lying eyes, drone videos are le fake! Russia stronk!

>>520796088 (OP)
kind of pointless when you can have droneboat tankers for a few million rubles

>>520797042
>>520796845
>>520796630
These were some of the funniest exchanges I've read on /pol/ this year.

Most likely its some government bot though, trying to drum up support. They want the population to focus on foreign matters, not domestic.

>>520798423
I find it incredible how fucking Sweden of all places managed to create a jet that is cheap enough to be bought and operated by every small euro country and be a credible deterrent, even in the case WW3 breaks out.

>>520813632
To be honest, CAS as a concept was worked out by WW2 the latest in full detail. Literally every single groundslogger during the Korea, Vietnam and the desert adventures kept asking for the same thing that could have been perfectly fulfilled by numerous, cheap and plentiful piston engine aircraft, crop dusting with bullets. This shit was solved. Unfortunately, this does not get trillion-dollar development and production contracts for the M-I complex, as they want to manufacture complex and expensive shit to justify their worth and earn some good money for their boomer investors, instead of cheap, durable tools that could win wars.

>>520816417
>as they want to manufacture complex and expensive shit to justify their worth
The fact that the days of piloted combat aircraft are coming to an end is going to be hard on both the MIC and military pilots. The glory days are damned near in the rear view.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wnomknuq62c

nuclear power - good enough for the military, but not for you.

>>520817894
We had nuclear power freighters in the 60s already. We could have built ships that literally never needed refueling, but chose to to burn literally trillions of tons of the lowest quality bunker oil instead.

>>520796088 (OP)
That's brilliaNT

What most people dont understand is the u.s. has been developing satellite killers since the 60s, and the chinks can make manufacture whatever theu want but it wont make a difference when we can just down their guidance systems with the push of a button. Chinks and the Ruskies have them, too, but it's basically a remote thruster attached to a piece of space junk that physically rams another satellite. Chinks can launch hundreds of missiles then seeth as they watch them drop into the ocean

>>520796088 (OP)
Thank you Americans for spending gazzilions on defense so other NATO countries like us only have to spent pennies for the strongest defense on earth.

>>520796088 (OP)
USS Jeffrey Epstein

>>520802407
>>520803072
>submarine detecting plane
a submarine can probably detect that plane using sonar, which is a rare accomplishment

>>520796088 (OP)
>Mutts need carriers to even get their fat asses to the battlefield
luuuuuul

>>520796088 (OP)
Why the fuk those planes are lying on the deck like shit in my toilet? I can literally afford a simple tarp to profect my shitty car when outside and those dumb fucks don't bother to put even that kind of cover for their ten million toys. Makes zero sense.

>>520798922
Did that fag really name his company after a comic book character?
Wasn’t Stark industries a weapons manufacturer?
This has to be the gayest shit i’ve ever heard of.

>>520796377
This. For every one of these, they need to build 10 subs and 200 hypersonic low altitude multiorbital rockets.

You know, or just end China now. Blow the dam. The future is drowning.

>>520799285
Wikipedia is so retarded retardedly biased nowadays. Anybody calling the Battle of the Chosen Resovoir anything but a Chinese Victory is delusional. I wrote a big paper on it back in college, went through a ton of primary source material, and nobody who was there called it a US victory, they called it a bloodbath.

>>520821329
I bet your communist university professors gave you a big A+ for your efforts.

>>520796088 (OP)
They are floating coffins. Once in range of a hostile power with ballistic missiles they will be immediately sunk. This has been known for decades.
https://exiledonline.com/the-war-nerd-this-is-how-the-carriers-will-die/all/1/

Waste of money. Small missile boats are much more useful. Build an air strip on land and save a lot of trouble.

>>520821477
Facts are facts, whether you like them or not. It's not just this battle, it's the same with the Battle of the Coral Sea, Battle of Cold Harbor, etc. It's revisionism at its finest.

>>520798836
We fight real wars, not trying to be the best at exercising.

>>520796088 (OP)
these things are obsolete. Spend that money on drones and drone manufacturing capacity. We must be ready to crank out millions of drones of all types.

>>520796319
fpbp
>>520810141
WW2 had countries building bigger and bigger battleships because that's what worked for so long. Then they realized battleships a shit. I would not be surprised if after 80+ years of the aircraft carrier's debut that its usefulness has greatly diminished.

>>520798374
Passenger miles per gallon?
Thought not.

>>520796088 (OP)
It's just a usual US media trick to distract its audience from the news about the Chinese carrier. >>520816012

The newest Ford-class carrier is a disaster so the response is "our future carrier will be blah-blah". Russian propaganda often uses such a cheap trick to fool vodka niggers. Muh ANALOGOVNETs!

>>520821619
Then why do we keep kicking every ones ass. Your worthless nation can't even keep from crashing your boats into each other.

>>520799141
Just depends on if the afterburners are on. It takes off either way.

>>520822263
the article is about a ford class carrier that began construction in 2009 that was supposed to be operational 2025 but has been postponed to 2027 due to difficulties with the electromagnetic launcher and elevator. it's not even propaganda about a future carrier.

everyone is just commenting on whatever their imagination made of the headline

>>520796088 (OP)
vaporwave

>>520816002
They should fill the moon with drones and crash it into the earth.

>>520796524
>brown hands typed this

>>520796319
the funny thing is that the USSR crumbled becasue they too spend too much on military until nothing else worked anymore.

>>520803774
>USS Doris Miller -
Lol. Girls name nig who was a ships cook and fired an AA gun into the air randomly. Then got sunk.
That nigger ship is sinking too.

>>520796088 (OP)
>PLANNED
two more weeks

>>520798423
>a saab gripen around 30 million

Gripen E is like 80 million now.

>>520823969
i just checked the price on wikipedia
jets are hard to price because different countries get different deals and sometimes the price includes full maintenance over the life cycle and things like that. i doubt a gripen suddenly jumped in price to as much as an f35

>>520824173
F-35 is probably over $100m

>>520822294
By keeping aircraft carriers out of war zones. Have fun sailing them on piracy duty that could be better done by a small boat.

>>520796088 (OP)
>Average American workers cannot afford housing, food, or utilities
>Let's spend billions on yet another boat that can win WW2 while ignoring the dangers of modern long-range missiles
I think I'm just going to stop paying taxes.

F35s are shit, might as well throw rocks

>>520796088 (OP)
Is there something Trump could do to speed up ship production? Is it possible we could go back to making a bunch every year or is there too much bureaucracy? I feel like unions may be largely to blame like with our ports.

>>520796518
Nigger Nimitz class was built over time
Last one finished in 2006

>>520796088 (OP)
5000 bazillion dollar ship vs 250 Russian rubble drone.

>>520796524
>brown hands typed this
German making fun of brown hands, lol, lmao even

Besides is true, an hypersonic missile will destroy any carrier.

>>520828071
is that a serious question? a single slow moving 250 rubble drone that cant even carry enough payload to put a single hole in a carriers hull? at least tell me you brought a swarm, and with bigger payloads. and where you launching them from? also don't forget the carrier has escorts.

>>520796734
>We can shoot that shit down with a laser
That’s false and retarded. The heat shielding on a supersonic missile easily deflects the temperature of a laser.

It needs the shielding just to travel through the atmosphere at the speeds it does. Even a lucky projectile shot or interceptor missile will still still mean extremely bad news for the carrier as the shrapnel will still probably hit it at high speed

>>520828071
Until they build microwave destroyers that turn everything within a kilometer into a hot pocket...the real future problem is below not above. I honestly don't know how you counter ai passive naval deployment vehicles. You leave a big box floating silently in the ocean waiting for the correct drive signature to swim by and just mag dump torpedo drones straight up into the hulls. They are not dangerous to your ships so you cover the sea in them like Filipino garbage.

>>520828411
You are missing the point retard. He was being hyperbolic. The price of precision guided munitions is falling exponentially and the west's supply chains haven't adapted to the realities of cheap easily accessible counters to billion dollars mega machines. The current doctrine is broken. Tanks aren't keeping people alive and they aren't providing meaningful firepower to the front. They don't belong there. Do you know how many ATVs and rockets you could by for the price of a tank. Blitzkriegs back baby.

>>520796319
They’re a bunch of bootlicking retards the system depends upon.

>>520806894
I hope a nigger rapes your mother while your father watches then is executed as the nigger climaxes.

>>520796088 (OP)
No carriersisters.
We're on it.
https://x.com/DanCollins2011/status/1986616055553466402

>>520796319
This is a vatnik/chink on a VPN.

>>520796518
>We
>Our

What are you? Some kinda jew, or just another idiot shabbos goy.

Please call it the Obama. I need it for the memes and outrage

>>520796319
FPBP

but never interrupt an enemy when he's making a mistake

>>520796319
>aquaducts? Grain dole? Via Appia? Curia subsidies?
>no way, what are you, some kinda Gracci Bros sympathizer
>brand fucking new 6 000 man legion to defeat Hannibal
>LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOO

>>520802819
Nobody believes the Jews lies anymore paki. Get with the program.

>>520796777
The very same

>>520797976
F-22 is a fifth-gen fighter.

>>520822263
>Chinese carrier good, no disaster, perfect!
>American weapons always disaster, bad, no good, poor!

>>520832448
What's a vatnik? Do you speaka-da-english?

>>520796088 (OP)
WELFARE ABUSE PORK

Why not train more calvary horses while were at it?

>>520796088 (OP)
wow cool we never actually use our military for ANYTHING so let's waste more money

>>520816129
What did he say that was off or wrong? I don't get it.

>>520796088 (OP)
If it isn't a submersible aircraft carrier then what is the point? That expensive garbage isn't future-proof it is a sitting duck.

>>520796088 (OP)
>>520796319
China has liad more train tracks in the past 10 years than america has in 50.

Let that sink in.
>T. Texan
You know what WOULD improve america!
Another 8 billion to isreal, of course! :D

>>520796377
German and Swedish diesel submarines were able to sneak up and "sink" American aircraft carriers in naval exercises, the subs run quiet enough to elude passive sonar to the point a German sub was able to get up right beside the American vessel.

>>520813632
I got to sit in the Skyraider prototype some years back. Pretty neat aircraft.

>>520796088 (OP)
Alright fine. I'll tell all of you the plan. First we use those rackets to break down Tennessee, then after we have community supersession we can declinate all monsoons. I repeat, declinate all monsoons. Once this is accomplished the world will again be entirely about manned navies and air forces.

It's rather obvious actually.

>>520796088 (OP)
Country is collapsing, run by jews, women and faggots. Cities are full of shitskins and niggers and other subhumans.

>oh look the MIC is building another useless shiny toy for the high seas using your money goy
Fuck off.

>>520797233
>the new chinese empire will be better, trust me

>>520796319
I live on a gravel road and have well water. I also am employed and get insurance through work. Now my focus is maintain thos life and protecting it which is why we need the carrier. Get a good life faggot and you won't need daddy govt for help with anything other than military. You fucking loser faggot.

>>520796088 (OP)
Got Ramp?

>>520798537
At least they have that out on display for any one to see, for you to laugh at. It literally only shows how honest they're being.. the Chinese aren't honest, how the fuck do you know what their dept is like? Show me a clock like this for the Chinese.

>>520798141
Lookit this fucking bitch... bet shes a dyke for sure.
Fuckin mulan faggot

US Army vet here. 30+ confirmed kills
Spec ops
I just wanna say that i loved being in the army
i sucked so much fucking cock holy shit. I was better than labor day at fire island.
Anyone who is a cock sucking fag needs to join up.

>>520835180
The Chinese carrier isn't a disaster and the American carrier is one purely based on how the project goes. China wanted one, they designed one and they built one at low cost. US one is in limbo perpetually wasting money for something that may or may not ever sail the seas

>>520838272
FRINRAN
FIN RAN
i bet you have nice pale skin
bet its real fucking soft too

i bet your hole is tight n pink
i wanna fuck
DM for session GC NN

>>520799141
>posts video of a ship in rough seas bouncing up and down like it proves their point
Shouldn't have expected anything more from the French.

>>520838804
MEMEFLAG = KIKE
show us your flag
show us your hole
let me pee in it

US ARMY MARINE VET HERE
lower your fuckin tone
FUCK NIGGERS
FUCK JEWS
FUCK CHINKS
FUCK JEETS
FUCK BEANERS

White boys should all be femboys

BRING ON THE DAY OF THE RAKE

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