Thread 520869757

It really is as simple as that

>>520869757 (OP)
Kill all retards. There. No more poor people. Test all babies and if they are retards abort or edit.

The government does nothing but waste money on bullshit. Better for a richfag to invest his money into a productive enterprise. /pol/ is basically niggers seething about their EBT though

>>520869757 (OP)
Enjoy New York, kike.

I would have started my business already if I didn't have to pay so much into taxes.
It legitimately prevents the group that is considered "rich" by poor people, but it's not all that rich.
200k/yr is rich in Gary, IN, it is not rich in SF, CA, or NYC. The problem is you must go to these areas to have a chance at landing that type of income.
Then you're just shy of being able to start a business. I would also be paying the mortgage of a landlord through rent.
Personally, I think you shouldn't be able to rent a property if you have a mortgage on it.

HE DOES HAVE A GOOD POINT
HE'S RIGHT YOU KNOW
NOW THAT THE DUST HAS SETTLED
SAY SOMETHING NICE
POWERFUL
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WHAT DID HE MEAN BY THIS
WHY DO AMERICANS
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>>520869757 (OP)
in a way he's right. more people have been brought out of poverty in the past 100 years than ever before.

>>520869757 (OP)
why not just get rid of taxes all together? we all know companies will used saved tax money to invest in anything but their worker force so we might as well pay less to the piper.

Implying the rich would invest in the dying West anymore.

>>520869757 (OP)
No shit

Think lefty think

What made America from a nothing wilderness into a world power?

Rich white people come here and not being taxed to death

It really is simple as that
You are correct

When the rich are allowed to flourish
The rest of the country flourishes

When they don't you get the USSR who end up collapsing because they can't feed their people

Communism as Marx described it will not be obtainable until technology itself has created a post-scarcity society

>>520870347
Where do you think all the money underlying the AI bubble comes for stupid shitskin?

>if you want to help the poor, ignore the poor and benefit the rich
wrongdoers will wrongdo

>>520870513

AI is a unproductive nothingburger that won't create any jobs.
The opposite is the case.

>>520870297
>people have been brought out of poverty
in the third world, where we don't live. people here are worse off.

>>520869757 (OP)
He is right. Trickle down economics works.
Taxes are bad unless OpenAI needs them to make your job obsolete or when a foreign capitalist needs a bailout of 40 billion.

>>520869757 (OP)
>just bail out the billionaires
As American as apple pie

>>520869757 (OP)
It's the truth that poor people don't want to hear because it means they have to work for money.

>>520869757 (OP)

>trickle-down economics

yawn. why are boomers unable to observe reality and think for themselves?

>>520870726
That's not what I asked though, was it shitskin?

>>520869757 (OP)
>Taxes have only gone down for the past 70 years
>Investment just vanishes into a black hole or into getting rid of jobs faster which make people poorer.

>>520869757 (OP)
trickle down has been tried to death and we keep trying it and it never works out for the middle/working/lower class.
The rich get richer, while for everyone else, unions get crushed wages stagnate, benefits dwindle, and retirement just gets priced out of people's reach.

>>520869757 (OP)
>>520870899
This is literally retarded. Money comes from the workforce. It was never the other way. Money without workforce is meaningless. The capital investment comes from the working class, people who are making it real. The only reason your silly data centers and hotels get built is because hundreds of people go there to build it and the ingredients for it instead of staying at home and masturbating and/or having sex.

>>520869757 (OP)
nationalism fixes capitalism and vice versa. NatCaps unite
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>>520871011

It's no investment any of us profits from, burger.

Also, 'AI' doesn't even exist.

It's a giant kike hoax.

>>520870046
you shouldn't, it should be totally illegal to rent a property you're paying a mortgage on.

>>520871303
The way to incentivize the workforce to not spend all day masturbating is to give them a financial incentive to stop masturbating. That financial incentive has to come from somewhere, either the private enterprise or the state. What the OP's tweet is suggesting is the private enterprise should take more of that responsibility.

>>520871321
But where does the money come from? This is what I asked shitskin.

>>520869757 (OP)
you still get shills like this and they exist SOLELY so redditniggers can shout "TRICKLE DOWN DOESN'T WORK" even though there is not a serious economist in the world that advocates for it

>>520869757 (OP)
No matter what system you create, there will always be poor people. There could be a million job opportunities and some people will still choose poverty. Just look at all the millions of homeless in America. Born in the greatest country on Earth, but they willingly CHOOSE to be poor and take drugs and live like filth. Poor people will always exist and there is nothing anyone can do about it.

>>520869757 (OP)
No, the government needs to be pro-business.
Where I live, the filthy useless commie democrats hate businesses. The people are poor, so business want to come in to get cheaper labor. OK great, however, the city and county refuse to allow businesses here: enviro-comme laws/ regulations, refusing to issue business permits to medium/ large businesses (the businesses that pay well), refusing to allow more affordable electric power generation, refusing to issue permits for large water usage, readerly high property taxes, retardedly high "impact fees", on and on.
People born here are cursed to live miserable lives, unless they somehow get one of the very few good jobs here through nepotism.

>>520872207
What happens to a species when it has all the food and resources it needs, and hence useless genetic waste doesn't die off as nature intended but persists...and has so much anger and resentment and demands to make on the rest of us?

>>520869757 (OP)
The price of goods literally never goes down. The rate at which they increase may fluctuate but it literally never goes down ever in absolute terms. Also most poor people have jobs, their pay is just shit.
The notion that the rich use money to increase efficiency with scale is just a theory that never plays out. In reality, the rich just use their wealth to run candidates that deregulate them more so they can increase profit with more harm to the public.

>>520869757 (OP)
Reducing taxes on the rich won't lower tariff costs on the poor. Once you move to a high tax economy, you have to directly subsidise the poor. Of course, once the poor depend on subsidies, its literal bread and circus tactics from Caesar who becomes ever more personally powerful, his whims deciding who may eat.

Trump is really copying Modi in this policy, India 2.0 is a powerful concept.

>>520871275
All of those happen due to regulatory governance and crony capitalism dipshit.

>>520872022
>>520872135
It's coming from other workers not the fucking state. The state only exists because of taxes and citizens, who collectively decided to create the state. Money is just an instrument of directing workforce between people. That's what banks always were, intermediaries between workers, making their own living on this. Government exists to normalize and equalize the playing field, while maintaining some sort of order to continue the exchange of work. The "financial incentive" is a method of force and control. If you don't work you will be in a very shitty situation. The only difference is, the taxes and benefits keep you alive long enough to perhaps convince you to work. Give you a taste of what you could have.
>>520872541
Subsidies only need to exist because of greed and an imbalance of the system which is due for a reset.

>>520869757 (OP)
unironically correct. The problem is the goverment, double the trouble when it's a jewish goverment

>>520869757 (OP)
I would agree with them if they brought back the production to the country instead of outsorcing the manufacturing to chinese factories with cheap labor doing almost slave-work.
So yeah I agree but fuck you I won't give you the taste of it to these elites.

>>520869757 (OP)
it was believable until the mass offshoring and outsourcing

>>520872610
isn't it amazing how the politicians who are always behind the "cut taxes for the rich people" plan are also the same ones who are all for crony capitalism?

>>520869757 (OP)
>Oy vey my tax is too high you flithy goyim
>If you lower it I promise to exploit you even more
Hitler was right

>>520869757 (OP)
Nah, tax billionaires
Shrink the size of govt

>>520872619
>If you don't work you will be in a very shitty situation.
This is the point that ideologies are fighting over. Well, it needs to be suitably shitty situation or we're going to have a larger percentage of NEET masturbators.

>>520870797
>trickle down economics works
Keep in mind the year Reagan was elected.

>>520869757 (OP)
the rich are losers that drove America into the ground and their only success is being part of a criminal enterprise that gives them access to unlimited central bank funding to brute force success.
they didn't work for their money, they stole it. and they have no right being rich. Trump is rich and hasn't worked a day in his life.
Every day I step outside I see some absolute braindead product, business, or design decision by "the rich". Smart, these people are not.
Truly arrogant and pathetic for these loser men to think so highly of themselves.

>>520872619
Tariff walls require subsidy, its how they work. India has had US-style tariffs longer. First you get tariff curse, domestic industries become less productive and more expensive absent competition. So the price of grains raises to just below the price imported grains + tariffs. This is now too expensive for normal people to afford, so some of the tariff is given back to them in subsidy but you can see the arithmetic can never work, they will be forced to consume less than if they could buy at the international spot price.
Interesting to think the mass of people on earth will be in two camps, Marxist-Leninism (with Chinese Characteristics) and Modi-Trumpism with free traders a tiny minority.

>>520869757 (OP)
Unfortunately the opportunities are not given to the natives because it's more important the job be profitably filled than all native citizens be employed. This is too gross a generalization

>>520872887
This. I'm a minarchist but I'll tax them just for the love of the game

>>520872954
Tariffs are retarded for the US right now... unless. I have my own theory for why they are doing this. If they manage to insider-trade their way to have a substantial stake in the market, while printing money, lowering rates and keeping the bubbles by roundabout'ing money they just might prevent the pending crash. By squeezing prices, not allowing them to drop. Every time there was a big exit from the market it suddenly gets repumped even higher. This money is not real. What I said before is the backbone of this system. You literally fucking can't print this much money and not have it bite you in the ass. You can however replace the financial incentive with corporeal incentive ie. threats of death or torture, something I just might suspect the US would be willing to do.

>>520872928
Yeah we've already seen this shit play out

The biggest example being the big three in Detroit
>Become rich through this country and favorable corporate tax structure
>Begin to decrease worker compensation or refuse to increase worker compensation even though your profits have increased
>Workers get angry
>Fuck off to foreign country and economically devastate the city that made you forever
Fuck the rich. Leftists are right about that.
Billionaires wouldn't exist without government aka taxpayer subsidy.
They repay us by offshoring or automating our jobs and filling our countries with foreigners and profiting off of wars that kill our young and brave

Peter Schiff is a notorious libertarian
>goes without saying, he's jewish
>father was a famous tax protestor who believed the income tax was illegal, went to fail for tax violations
>father sold books explaining the economy from the perspective of a banker
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXQ7-bn1aNI
>Peter was closely associated with Rand and Ron Paul
>Ran for senate in Connecticut the same year Rand ran in Kentucky, but lost after he advocated bombing iran and the anti-war crowd turned on him
>has been promoting a doomsday collapse of the economy for decades, the narrative mostly centers around increasing US debt and reliance on Chinese manufacturing, frequently calling the US economy a massive bubble
>heavily promotes gold, silver, and precious metals, and even concocted a "gold credit card" that allowed you to break off little pieces of gold to pay for things, like a kitkat bar
>runs an investment company where he, ironically, helps people invest in China and other emerging economies, as well as gold and silver
>got into a major spat on the Daily Show where he was made to look like a complete asshole, and claims they deceptively edited the interview
>gets popular whenever the economy takes a downturn, loses popularity whenever the economy goes up
>Generally promotes a hard libertarian line. Open borders, free drugs, gold backed currency, freedom of speech....etc.

Fundamentally, guys like Schiff don't understand bell curve tier redpills and how they apply to the economy. Like why in an age of increasing technology, the capital class grows disproportionately wealthy while the workers become less useful.

>>520870419
but the rich are killing the poor

>>520869757 (OP)
I love rich people so much its unreal.

>>520873265
Let me put it this way, there's a supply and demand for human genes.

The genes that code for a low skill worker are not in demand right now, because of technology. And their supply has gone way up, thanks to immigration. "Free trade" effectively increases the supply of low IQ workers in the economic pool, thus decreasing their value even further.

The economy realizes that these human beings are not valuable, and is trying to remove them from the equation. Just like an inefficient company gets flushed from the marketplace, so are the human beings. Prices and wages conspire to flush them from the economy.
It's getting really rough out there. Entire communities are shriveling up and dying on the vine.

So should we just let them die off? Well the thing about "regression to the mean, is that your kids likely will not have the same intelligence as you. Two 150 IQ people might have a kid with 135 IQ, and his kids will likely be 125....etc. That's "regression to the mean".
So the population at large are the ones that, through random statistical chance of genetics, produce the geniuses. That is the breeding core of the population. If the core is flushed, they won't be able to produce more geniuses. Furthermore, even those elite's kids will just regress back to the mean.

Basically we need to think about populations more as a whole unit, rather than individuals. They produce geniuses, send them out as heroes to work wonders, and they return the favor.

>>520869757 (OP)
my socialism needs your capitalist's dollars to work, but I'm sure this is still the path to communism

>>520874469
Don't act like this is a meritocracy, because it is anti-meritocracy. The US Government forces employers to lower standards for the affirmative actin retards, who destroy companies from within. This alone would be enough of a reason to leave the USA. Add in all of the other regulations, taxation, etc to deny companies the ability to operate here.
There is also no such thing as free trade. The USA foolishly allows other countries to dump products here through various means, depending on the country. The USA is ruled by moronic lawyers, while China and many other countries are ruled by businessmen, scientists, etc. The ruling class of the USA gleefully sabotage this country, while telling lies to the stupid masses.
there is also a lot more to the sabotaged, like low IQ mass immigration, marxist/ socialist program for dysgenic breeding, widespread corruption, environmentalist sabotage, etc. Americans politicians would rather be corrupt tyrannical rulers of a shithole than patriotic stewards of a free prosperous country.