Thread 520877551

no industrial society has fixed this yet

One of them is eventually going to figure it out

>>520877551 (OP)
>no industrial society has fixed this yet
China deliberately chose to embrace this "problem" of a low birthrate with their one-child policy. Its no mystery that this is the case for them. But why is it also the case in the west where no such policy has been undertaken?

>>520877551 (OP)
NUMBER 11 CRASH AND BURN
CHINKS ON SUICIDE WATCH
http://www.google.com/search?q=china+collapse

>>520877551 (OP)
They chose this under Deng who installed one child policy btw which caused major problems

>>520877551 (OP)
and why exactly is america's tax dollars being spent on studying the birthrates of countries like china exactly?

>>520877783
one child policy comes from the over population meme. The west didn't do it because we are not a confucian shithole

>>520880241
>Why would a country try to study and better understand their main rival?
If you can't figure it out you're ngmi.

>>520877783
Education of women is the common factor.

/pol/ needs to address the anti-China botting going on this board

>>520880386
is that what niggers do with their main rival? study your birthrates because you're white? i guess that's why they're winning since they mastered how to exploit white pussy for their own birthrate

>>520877551 (OP)
It'll fix itself when all the depressed dumbasses die off, and the well adjusted survive and teach their kids not to be fuckups.

white retards can study china's birthrates all they want, throwing away everyone else's money while they're still all failures at exploiting chinese pussy for their birthrate

>>520877551 (OP)
>Why are people having less kids when the price of everything is going up, cost of living is out of control, dating is worse than ever, the world is shit and Jewed out of control
Hmm, indeed, why has no industrial society been able to effectively tackle this problem in the modern age?

>>520877551 (OP)
The Chinks are most likely faking their stats.
I am almost certain they do that to put the West's mind at ease.

>>520877551 (OP)
>>520877783
The situation in the year 1988:
Approx. replacement or above (≈2.1+)
>Albania
>Turkey
>Cyprus
>Iceland
>Ireland
>Poland
>Romania
>Yugoslavia
>Soviet Union

Below replacement, but feasible recovery (roughly 1.7–2.0)
>France
>United Kingdom
>Norway
>Sweden
>Finland
>Greece
>Bulgaria
>Hungary
>Czechoslovakia

Below replacement, harder recovery (≈1.6 and under)
>Portugal
>Spain
>Belgium
>Netherlands
>Luxembourg
>Denmark
>West Germany (FRG)
>East Germany (GDR)
>Switzerland
>Austria
>Italy
>Malta

In industrial countries, keeping birth rates around 2.1+ basically means making it easy and normal to have 2–3 kids without wrecking your life, and you can see this in how France and the Nordics had a mini baby boom in the 1980s–90s after they expanded family policy. Sweden, Norway, and Denmark pushed a dual-earner model with universal childcare, long paid parental leave (including for fathers), and school/working hours that actually fit together, while France combined strong child allowances, family-friendly taxes, and dense childcare/preschool so women didn’t have to choose between work and kids; this nudged many couples toward a second and often a third child. By contrast, countries like Italy, Spain, and Germany combined modern female education with old-school home expectations, tight housing, rigid work, and weak childcare—so fertility collapsed instead of stabilizing near replacement, even though with earlier Nordic/France-style policies many of them could probably have hovered much closer to that 2.1 level.

>>520877783
>But why is it also the case in the west where no such policy has been undertaken?
Cost of living.
Most people can't fucking afford a home.

>>520880460
Women's participation in the work force is the biggest problem. Women's education usually leads to their work force participation, so it is (indirectly) a cause but what actually makes birth rates tank is women having socioeconomic parity with men. If a woman doesn't need a husband in order to live comfortably she'll delay marriage for years.

>>520880943
Weird how Israel is the expection to this.
Maybe it's because they subsidize the haredis.

>>520880992
USSR had high birthrates.
And women education has been a thing for generations.
So that can't be the reason.
It's the cost of living.
People straight up can't afford kids.

>>520877551 (OP)
Me and my fat greasy fingers can fix it.

>>520880536
[revs IQ shredder in your path]

>>520881091
>USSR had high birthrates.
Their overall birth rates were pushed up by the minority ethnic groups that had less female workforce participation.
>And women education has been a thing for generations.
But not women's workforce participation, to a significant degree. That has really only hit recently. Even in the boomers' time, women didn't make anywhere near as much money as men, but these days they make the same or more.
>It's the cost of living.
>People straight up can't afford kids.
No, that is silly and falls apart at first glance. People can afford kids. Women just refuse to do it. Redditors blither about cost of living as a cause so they can ignore the fact that women are the problem.

>>520880992
Yep
>>520881091
I would be interested to see exactly what laws were in place in the soviet union at that time. I'm almost certain that females were given certain jobs distinct from men as a general rule, also birth control was banned iirc, though abortion was widely used.

>>520880943
Then why didn't they keep up the policy?
Does it have something to do with how it incentivized a flood of third world savages that overloaded the system?

>>520877551 (OP)
Plug out cunts out of the workforce, no need to thank me

>>520881264
>Their overall birth rates were pushed up by the minority ethnic groups that had less female workforce participation.
Almost all minorities worked as well and they were minorities, thus had little to no impact.
> But not women's workforce participation, to a significant degree. That has really only hit recently. Even in the boomers' time, women didn't make anywhere near as much money as men, but these days they make the same or more.
And this is inherently tied to the cost of living, one man can no longer support a household.
> No, that is silly and falls apart at first glance. People can afford kids.
Nope.
They can't anymore, housing is unaffordable to the vast majority and raising babies cost a LOT.
> Redditors blither about cost of living as a cause so they can ignore the fact that women are the problem.
Nope, you jews are the problem.
You are parasitising the gentiles to death.

>>520881265
>also birth control was banned iirc
So, it's not muh female education that did this.

>>520881338
Because they need new slaves, the cost of living is the primary factor here.
After the jews parasitize one host they bring a replacement.

>>520877551 (OP)
theres nothing to fucking fix. china is a crowded shithole. let them have less people you kike loving MUH GDP faggots

>>520877551 (OP)
yugoslavia and germany did, it is piss easy
either you get women out of education by quotas or you ban contraception thats it

>>520877551 (OP)
>no industrial society has fixed this yet
soviet union had high birthrates all the way until the collapse and SFRY had birthrates over 2 until 1987 or something
>>520881264
>Their overall birth rates were pushed up by the minority ethnic groups that had less female workforce participation.
no they weren't. if you look at just the white parts like ukraine or belarus, birth rates were all above 2 until 1991, and then they cratered.
capitalism destroys society, that's just how it works.

>>520877551 (OP)
Has anyone considered that the problem might be our ability to collect and analyse this data? Similar to how an atom will react different when it's being observed vs. not? Perhaps the solution is to stop tracking fertility data.

>>520881631
China is under populated, relative to its land size.
Jews just need to be exterminated, desu.
You are unproductive FILTH!

>>520881811
yugoslavia and nazi germany were the only country, soviets managed to raise birthrates by disfunction

>>520881338
Because they don’t want White people to be fruitful and multiple.

>>520877551 (OP)

Indian Hindu rape rats are breeding at 3 times China's rate (25 million babies per year vs 8 million for China). And China's population is much older than India's, and India is much more male because Hindu rape rats murder female babies and gang rape female children to death before adulthood. So every day that China allows India to exist, the Indian Hindu rape rats add 100,000 new babies, while China ends up losing tens of millions of people at the end of the year. Get them brown pilled in the Indian Hindu rape rat problem NOW and let the nukes fly.

>2 billion - Indian Hindu rape rats living in India
>25 million - new inbred, ugly little cockroaches (65% male) are shat out every year, 3 times China's breeding rate
>50 million - Indian Hindu rape rats have already migrated out of India permanently (next biggest diaspora are Mexicans at a distant 10 million)
https://www.statista.com/topics/13150/indian-diaspora/
>10 million - Indian Hindu rape rats leaving India each year (2025 migration rate)
>250 MILLION - the number of Indian Hindu rape rats the Indian government is trying to send out into the world permanently from India, mostly targeting the west and rich countries - by 2050
https://x.com/amandalouise416/status/1929362235048231402
>150 years - minimum amount of time where India will remain the largest migration threat to the world, due to Hindus breeding like roaches
>10 million - new jobs per year are needed to keep India's unemployment rate stable
>50,000 - the number of jobs India actually creates each year
>100,000 - the number of Hindu rape rats born every single day in India (65% males)
>1 - the rank of the Indian Hindu rape rats as migrant invaders, all over the world; And their rank for breeding rate, population size, and inbreeding; And their rank for child rape, child marriage, incest, gang rape, animal rape, rape rape:
https://www.india.com/topic/rape

>>520882203
>>150 years - minimum amount of time where India will remain the largest migration threat to the world, due to Hindus breeding like roaches
Why can't they just close the border?
Why is this never fucking discussed.
The West doesn't have to keep fucking allowing the mass migration of Indians, this is the CORE of the issue.

>>520880968
No offense, cost of living is the most ridiculous argument and just dodging the real problem.

It's not like well off white people are having many kids, at max they have one or two kids and 3 pets. On the other hand even a poor arab family is having 3-4 kids.
That's not to say there's isn't inflation or cost of living crisis. Sure you don't have it as good as boomers did and yea non white are exploiting the system - they are always on welfare.

But I think the real reason for low white fertility rate is lack of will. Most white people just don't want to have kids. And why is that? Could be many reasons, I can think of two. Post world war 2 west become materialistic and Godless, hence not seeing pregnancy as a gift from God.

I truly love the European race and civilization and I want the best for you guys.
You have to face the truth that most of you prefer comfort over responsibility of raising a child. And that's not the same as quality over quality, I have heard that argument many times. Pre 60s white families had many kids and were able to raise them just fine, still religious white families have loads of kids and they do a much better job of raising them.

>>520880943
Portugal was actually 1.61, in 1988
It was 1.39 in 2023, after hitting 1.21 in 2013. But, 29.8% were from foreign born mothers...

>>520882840
India's fertility rate is also below replacement, to say nothing of East Asia

>>520882294

Because jews anon. And increasingly, the Hindu rape rats have learned from the jews and are infiltrating and lobbying and blackmailing all by themselves. How do you think India managed to get 80% of all H-1B visas for decades despite having an average IQ lower than Pakistan and probably equally as low as Nepal?

>>520884103
>it's true because I said so ok, even though we Hindu rape rats are known for always lying

Whenever you hear someone post this lie, it is ALWAYS an Indian Hindu rape rat trying to make themselves seem more human. India hasn't conducted a census since 1970, when they were accused of severely undercounting their population so they could jew more financial aid from donors which was conditioned on them curbing their insane Hindu weaponzed breeding. India couldn't even track all of their births if they wanted to.

>>520877635
it will be China
the only ones with the balls to ban women from working outside the home
no income, they will get married
>ban women working
>ban birth control
look at that, I should be dictator of America

>>520877635
>>520884766
I plan on personally raising the Chinese birth rate significantly so that is a start.

>>520877551 (OP)
>record levels of automation and ai is better than ever
Why are you fucks so obsessed with shitting out kids? We don't need that anymore. Just close the borders and deport immigrants. Let the population decrease for a bit. It's fine.

>>520877551 (OP)
Post-industrial problems require post-industrial solutions.

>>520877551 (OP)
Import Indians

>>520884103
Isn't that good thing?
And it's only .2 below the required rate so it's not even bad. I with it was as bad as south Korea cause we really do have a massive over population problem so we could do with some population shrinking.

Over population isn't a political issue in india because Muslims and Hindus are in breeding competition so it's only getting worse. And I suspect the other anon is right, we must be severely undercounting out population.

>>520885214
I could easily run like 3 companies that require minimal maintenance. Jeetlon works 5 min / year and runs like 7

>>520885214
New female japanese prime minister said the same thing - Japan should allow the population shrinking.
Jewish backed politicians argue they need immigrants to pay pension and look after old people. The problem is pension scheme, it's a pyramid scheme, it only works as long has you have rising population. Sooner or later pension scheme would have to be discarded. Either politicians discard it or it collapses and thing are forced back to how they used to be - kids look after their parents.
Another problem is money worshiping billionaires would always favour legal and illegal immigration as it benefits them - cheap labour.

>>520877551 (OP)
herp derp

>>520881931
>soviets managed to raise birthrates by disfunction
what is this seethe?
>oh they solved the birthrate problem but they cheated so it doesn't count
lmao

durrr hurr huff huff gnuhhhhh

it turns out if you pay people to have kids, they starting fucking. the average spic or nigger gets millions of dollars in aid over its life time

>>520886059
>2010
Outdated. All groups are below replacement in the US.