Thread 520929416

If Russia gives long range missiles to Venezela along with training and satellite data but doesn't press the launch button themselves, can they be held accountable for any destruction caused on US soil?

>>520929416 (OP)
It's guns which kill, not people.
So, no.

Of course they'd be to blame, brainlet.

>>520929416 (OP)
Russian missiles Can't sink american warships, they have air defences decades ahead of what russia can produce

>>520929416 (OP)
It would just be lethal aid donated to Venezuela in response to America's illegal, unprovoked, environmentally unsound invasion. Russia wouldn't be involved at all.

>>520929992
Why doesn't Russia impose sanctions on the US? Or is that a silly question to ask lmao? Think about why it is a silly question to ask though...it gets even more funny when you do.

>>520929926
I thought they had hypersonics n shit

>>520929992
Sounds familiar.

>>520930217
They could screw the US over on stuff like fertiliser maybe. Russia is playing its dindu nothing card though rather than tit for tat against the US

>>520930619
Lots of countries produce fertilizer. The US is a major producer as well due to our abundance of gas. And they don't play tit for tat because they can't.

>>520930772
>And they don't play tit for tat because they can't.
Very true. Fertiliser was literally the only thing I could think of and it's not something they produce exclusively. They different ways to try and harm the US though but certainly not by sanctions. Would be funny, as you said.

>>520931003
My English is shit because I'm phone posting again ffs

>>520930217
Sanctions don't work, and even if they did you'd need the rest of the world to sign up to enforce them. America can force its most loyal European vassals to participate, but that's it.

>>520931003
The fracking revolution completely changed geopolitics. All the recent shit with Iran would have been impossible before, same as with Russia. But the US is a net energy exporter now, which has massively reduced the leverage Russia and Iran and OPEC generally have on global affairs.

>>520931292
>Sanctions don't work
Why does Russia want them dropped then? And why were they seething so hard about the most recent sanctions on their oil?

Will never happen. Russia and USA are allies.

After 1 march there will be no access to foreign website in Russia.
It's not 100% confirmed, but big chance that it's real.

It's over for us. Only bots and elites, like in north korea could access global internet.

Turks and Israel runs circles around the lame duck s400 and pantsir. I'm sure the Americans can do the same.

>>520931326
The amount of oil and gas discovered in Texas is insane and totally rebalanced things. We've got a fair bit here but obviously politicians are against it using it..
You think the US will get involved in Venezuela now that Russia is moving weapons there? Seems it's their way of hitting back following US support for Ukraine.

>>520931593
Is it true that all phones are required to have MAX spyware pre-installed now?

>>520929416 (OP)
> but doesn't press the launch button themselves

Globohomo has established that’s where the line is drawn in Ukraine

>>520931387
They're inconvenient for countries that want to engage in free trade, so obviously they would want them dropped, but the stated goal of the sanctions is to cripple the targeted country's economy in order to provoke popular unrest which is in turn supposed to result in regime change. We are on the 19th tranche, nearly one for every year NATO spent losing the war in Afghanistan. How many more sanctions before they finally work? How many more for Iran, which prior to 2022, was the most sanctioned country in the world?

>>520931387
> And why were they seething so hard about the most recent sanctions on their oil?

They weren’t. All I remember is the Trump admin seething at the Indians for refusing to join the sanctions against Russia.

>>520931716
>We've got a fair bit here but obviously politicians are against it using it..
UK has a lot of shale gas for sure. The main benefit the US had was federalism and the extreme autonomy Texas has over its energy policy. It's not connected to the national electric grid so it doesn't have to submit to federal bullshit. This as well as the fact that the land was privately owned meant the government couldn't stop it. The UK doesn't have that situation, so it all stays in the ground while your energy costs just keep climbing. Sad.
>You think the US will get involved in Venezuela now that Russia is moving weapons there?
No and I don't believe Russia is moving shit there. They need everything they have for Ukraine and Putin needs to suck up to Trump, not alienate him even more.

>>520931839
>They're inconvenient
So they do work then.
>>520931966
>They weren’t
Oh yeah they were lmao.

>>520931593
That's fucked up. How foreign are we talking, stuff like Wikipedia even? Yes, I know it's kiked but still.

>>520931999
> I don't believe Russia is moving shit there.

They’ve had lots of flights of their big ass military transport aircraft into Caracas. Russia has several destroyers parked in Venezuelan waters.
Russia is winning in Ukraine, why would Putin need to suck up to Trump? It’s the other way around kek

>>520932052
>oh yeah they were

Based on you just pulling shit out of your ass, while the diplomatic row with the Indians was covered extensively in international media. Cope, lying tranny

>>520929416 (OP)
>If

>>520929416 (OP)
If a Russian ship carrying a missile across the Atlantic to Venezuela accidentally explodes and sinks to the bottom of the ocean do you think we would cry about it?

>>520932192
>Russia has several destroyers parked in Venezuelan waters
No they don't lmao. You're just making up nonsense VPNigger
>>520932273
Nah, Peskov was seething so fucking hard lmao. Lavrov too with his horse face kek. It was funny.

>>520932052
That's a strange way to express concession, but I'll accept it. Cheers, anon.

>>520929926
Lucky for us Yemen isn't giving them missiles, then.

>>520932499
No you explained why they work and why Lavrov was so assblasted about the new sanctions: because they're SUPER inconvenient for Russia.

>>520929926
>Russian missiles Can't sink american warships, they have air defences decades ahead of what russia can produce
Theres no capability gap in american naval interceptors and Russian interceptors. This is however about ashms. The supersonic russian modern ashms are very capable, it is a pucker factor if those are fired against any naval vessel, but it is highly unlikely Venezuela will be given the volume needed to punch trough a naval fleets aa umbrella. The hypersonics however are extremely dangerous, you cant be sure you shoot it down even if its a single missile launched, however its extremely unlikely Russia will provide those to Venezuela.

>>520929799
>Of course they'd be to blame, brainlet.
So NATO is not arming the Ukraine?

>>520932371
>If am American ship carrying a missile across the Atlantic to Ukraine accidentally explodes and sinks to the bottom of the ocean do you think we would cry about it?

>>520929926
Perus NATO-botti WW3-laudalta. :D

>>520929416 (OP)
>US soil
They only need to sink Muttcarriers

>>520929416 (OP)
No of course not, just like we're not responsible for anything Ukraine does with our missiles and targeting info. I'm sure that's how it will get sold in the media, fair's fair after all.

>>520929926
If all of israel, the so called "American aircraft carrier on land" can get pummeled by Iran with ballistics even though they have the most advanced US SAM's then why wouldn't a carrier group get absolutely demolished by hypersonics lol. Retard

>>520931999
>It's not connected to the national electric grid so it doesn't have to submit to federal bullshit. This as well as the fact that the land was privately owned
Pretty based ngl. Checked also.

>No and I don't believe Russia is moving shit there.
I honestly don't think they're far off doing it if they haven't done so already. Either that or the planes landing there is theatre/posturing for the sake of having a bargaining chip with the US over Ukraine.

>>520932052
Judeo Mutt seething as usual.
Do you simultaneously post in Muh Russia and Muh China threads, Jew

>>520929416 (OP)

Most of news telling at Russians trying to buy back their military equipments what they have sold past times ago....sending them to Venezuela is unlikely.

>>520932520
This

>>520932793
>I'm sure that's how it will get sold in the media
No, remember the "it's ok when we do it". If Russia does it it will be an outrage and it will be sincere. It's like everyone in the West is insane.

>Venezuelan missile crisis
how will orange man bad botch this debacle?

>>520933317
>Putin: You are worried over Venezuela. You say that it worries you because it lies at a distance of 1500 miles from the shores of the United States. But Ukraine lies next to us!”

>>520933055
You're angry but have no response kek

>>520930229
Hypersonics aren't useless but they are overrated.

>>520931593
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLe7_BVSohw

Watch before it's too late

yes i'm sure they're going to give iskander-m missiles to venezuela even though it takes years to train on that system. retard.

>>520934110
>You have no response to my "oh yeah they were lmao"
It was a fitting response though. You're retarded

>>520933851
putin man bad is just dunking on jewmerica at this point

>>520934407
Peskov and Lavrov were super angry about the new sanctions. That's just fact darling.

>>520934743
Not as angry as Trump after he got cucked by the whole world.

>>520931593
>it's real

>>520934391
Are himars, atacms, stormshadow, tomahawk more user friendly systems to train on?

>>520934900
Lol, ok sure.