Thread 520939802

TRUMP DECAPITATES THE HEALTH INSURANCE INDUSTRY!!!! TRUMP JUST DID MORE DAMAGE THAN LUIGI COULD HAVE EVER HOPED!!! TRILLIONS OF SUBSIDIES HAVE NOW JUST BEEN REMOVED FROM THE HEALTH INSURANCE SLUSH FUNDS!!! BASED! BASED! BASED! BASED! BASED! BASED!

>>520939802 (OP)
He means directly to the people of Israel

>>520939802 (OP)
Clearly the elites are planning on depopulating a huge number of people soon.

Can't wait till I get my check for all the money the medical industry has fucked me out of over the years oh wait

>>520939881
This

nothing will come of this. nothing is going to help the american people. just more lies and grifts

>>520939881
nice try shitjeet but your fake demoralization doesn't work when jews run your healthcare industry

If congress doesn't codify it goes out the door when his term ends and you probably will have to start paying an IRS fine if you don't have it. Instead of 700 for the family plan it will be 2400 a month or else.

>>520939881
kek

>>520939978
Piss off, kike

>>520939802 (OP)
This is how the right-wing dies in the USA unironically
No one can take the for-profit insurance system anymore that Trump is dying on

>>520940014
oh the shitjeet thinks me calling out jews running the healthcare system and losing money makes me a kike how inbred of the shitjeet

>>520939802 (OP)
I never could afford the shit tier obamacare plans.

>>520940083
get filtered, kike

>>520939916
You'll get your foreskin back.
They stored it in the freezer since your birth.

>>520940005
you're indian

>>520939881
lmao

>>520939881
Right, there is no other people in his life.

>>520939802 (OP)
So, he wants to replace health insurance subsidies with UBI?

Pretty based, actually. But how are they going to address the problem that Obamacare was originally set up to prevent? You know, large portions of the poor having no health insurance and becoming a burden on the system when they show up at emergency rooms where they can't be denied care even if they won't pay?

>>520939881
This.

I thought the actual tax payers on Ahc was subsidized by the taxpayer receiving that service itself. What happened between now and 2009 for the cost of a tax refund (maybe $1500) vs $22000 per policy now

>>520940144
you're a kike

>>520939881
FPBP

>>520939802 (OP)
This post activated the bots and quality-lowering shills so this must be important

>>520940302
They could go with a Public Option. If he actually implemented that he'd actually be praised for it quite a lot but that's dependent on him doing it.

>>520940302
>>520940358
These are the only real anons in this thread everyone else is a bot

>>520939881
First poster best poster

How it works now:
>Your monthly premium is $1200
>The government gives the insurance company $600
>You pay $600

Trump's proposal:
>Your monthly premium is $1200
>The government gives you $600
>You pay $1200

>>520939802 (OP)
The orange nigger talks shir but how does he even plan to give that money to "the people"?
Like you break a leg and then you get a thousand shekels in the mail the next day so you can pay the hospital?
Lol lmao
Shit's going to be as kiked, if not more, than before, that's for sure.

>>520940518
True, no difference, just cutting out the middle jew.

>>520939881
more for israel

>>520940441
Well I was on Obamacare and it takes your tax refund. Why did it start costing more than the average refund and why did the government hide that for 14 years.

So he is talking about returning the refund fully

Obamacare is dead than

>>520939802 (OP)
bless

>>520939916
>>520940137
jews squeeze White men foreskins to make butter from juices and then make their tiny hats from dried flesh, black men foreskins are blended into vaccines

>>520939998
good luck fining me when I dont work, a ha ha ha.

I don’t need money I need healthcare if I lose my insurance I’ll end up paralyzed. What the fuck good is money gonna do then?

I seem to remember that they give illegals 5k a month in lieu of Obama care.
So thats basically what would happen for american ciizens.

>>520940687
>8000$

>>520939881
kek fpbp

>>520939881
>He means directly to the people of Israel

It was already going to the Insurance industry.

>>520940936
The treatment I get costs 78k every 6 months tho.

>>520941136
Sorry goy we have to protect Israel from the people they are committing genocides against.

>>520939802 (OP)
He has no plan lmao
>obamacare was the government subsiding and giving money to the health care industry so the average person only had to pay a small percentage
>Trump wants to remove that without replacing it with anything, so now instead of the government footing most of the bill Americans have to pay 500 dollars for health insurance

He's a retard with no plan, not even a concept of a plan.

>>520940518
Current, I get nothing.
Trump I get 600 dollars, dont buy health insurance. Now what jews?

>>520939881
Lyl
Sadly this.
You voted for this muttsharts.

>>520939998
it's already 2400 for a family plan.

>>520941136
Nah, you need to be made into glue. 150k a YEAR.? NAH BRO thats not acceptable.

>>520939802 (OP)
You mean directly to insurance companies.

>>520941231
Killing kids across the world is more important?
>>520941469
Fuck you nigger you should be turned into glue. I paid into the system it’s not my fault I’m sick I didn’t choose this.

>>520940425
I unironically support a Public Option, conditioned on deporting 10,000,000 illegals to help lower costs.

>>520939881
Done in one

>>520939802 (OP)
Redirect the money to SNAP. Expand the program to include more people. Lift the diet of millions of Americans and you won't need that corrupt medical system anymore.

>>520941692
Wouldn't it get cheaper the more people that pay into it? Either way, I've been advocating for you guys to have the Public Option for years. It's clearly the better option but that's all dependant on Private insurers not lobbying the fuck against it.

>>520941633
Sure, im good with you getting treatment, just dont come rob me to do it. I dont see you writing any checks for me. Welfare nigger.

>>520939802 (OP)
>directly to the people
how so?

>>520939881
First poster is best poster.

>>520941446
That's crazy. Charging that much a month, is price gouging.
22,800/year. is an obscenity
I don't believe the average person spends $6k in medical services/year.
Maybe the truly sick people need to an hero. Or create another system for them. It's 1000% unfair to saddle others with picking the tab for your parents making you a sick prone person.
I'm glad that I don't work in a hospital, because I'd demoralize the family members into euthanizing the patient.

>>520941633
Why should other people be forced to pay for your medical treatment at gunpoint?

>>520939802 (OP)
Before Obamacare you could buy a catastrophic plan for like $150-200 a month and full coverage for a family of four for like $400-500 a month. The only thing they needed to change was no preexisting health conditions…

Obamacare was always destined for failure from the start with healthcare subsidies because the trick was to hide the real cost by giving HUGE giveaways to insurance companies who still fuck you over regardless. You pay more for shittier healthcare.

>>520939802 (OP)
Good news everyone were socialists now! Actually this is something entirely different but If he's just giving it away..

Just the white people right?

>>520941871
I wrote the checks already nigger I paid into the system. That means I’m entitled to receive help.
>>520942040
Because they might get sick and need treatment too so it’s important to maintain society and look out for everyone.

>>520941346
Maybe the focus is on bringing the prices down.
Ex, the prices are ridiculously overcharged because the companies know that the government will keep paying.
Take the government payments to the insurance companies away, and people will stop paying for it and go uninsured. Company loses clients, profits sink.
They need to reframe their business model with the understanding that government won't make direct payments to their companies.

>>520941136
Is it because of a med that's priced at a 3000% markup, because of 'research costs"?

>>520942196
I don’t blame you anon, you pay your premiums and deductibles to receive your treatments. Also it’s just the hospital’s and Dr’s who grossly overcharge insurance companies which they know will settle for a much lower cost than what’s on the bill.

>>520942384
That too >>520942307

>>520942196
entitled
Yes you are. Right to healthcare is not enshrined in the constitution. You get a shitty roll, sucks. But demanding others pay for you? Go away comrade. Im short, every study ever lonks short height to less earning power, should I pick your pocket to improve my lot in life too? No. We get what we get.

>>520939802 (OP)
Trump is like "nice shot Luigi but watch this"

>>520939881
Actually LOLed gg's

>>520939881
FPBP

>>520940425
> please do a communism
no

>>520939802 (OP)
>>520939881
Libtards seething again.

BY THE WAY Luigi was a faggot. Total loser. Changed nothing. Is nothing. Totally irrelevant. Not even useful as a threat. Just one big nothingburger. You can tell how low IQ leftists are by their worship of the guy. Their entire worldview does not include the board of directors.

>>520939881

They need it more than we do.

>>520942307
No it’s produced in Switzerland or maybe Norway one of the two. Tariffs made it go up like 10k just in the last 6 months or so. Yes research is part of the issue but that is important if they want to cure the disease and there is only a couple million people in the world with it so it has to be expensive to be profitable because so few people have MS
>>520942384
It’s not just doctors or hospitals that makes everything so insanely expensive. Everything is fucked about being sick

>>520942500
>not enshrined in the constitution.
The 1st, 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th ARE in the Constitution, and are getting raped into irrelevance. The 2nd was intended to protect them but low IQ hillbillies think it just means "I get to shoot people on my propertah whether they are lost or whatever".

So fuck off with enshrined. The wealthiest country in the world, with over 1000 billionaires (and soon a trillionaire or two) should not be bankrupting it's citizenry over healthcare.

You won't be an invincible, immortal 20 something shit forever.

>>520939896
Yeah, a bunch of social and medical experiments on american nation went real sour. I think they just want a clean slate.

>>520940302
>they show up at emergency rooms
At least they won't need to hire translators in the ER.
But you're right. ER will be the choice for everything.
And I don't see the insurance industry sitting still for this. They're hurting already with all the cvd shot claims.

>>520942844
Mitch's Corporate Scotus has been mulling killing class action suits as a concept.

>>520942500
Well I’ll keep advocating for even you to get healthcare because I don’t want you to suffer like you want me to suffer. I really hope you never get sick bro

>tariff money going to the people
>doge money going to the people
Now it's Obamacare money?

>>520943022
We really should force politicians to wear their top 100 donors logos like on a race car jacket, so we would know who they’re sponsored by every time they’re seen or talking… That would be fucking hilarious lmao

>>520942844
>They're hurting already with all the cvd shot claims
I was under the impression they couldn't be touched legally.

>>520939881
Fpbp kek

>>520939802 (OP)
>Go directly to the people!
which people and whats the transaction fee?

If your entire concept of a plan this entire 10 years was to do this. why now?

I never filed a claim can I get more back?

Its almost like a childs idea.

>>520943242
Not for the shots directly, but with all the injuries, there are more claims than ever.
Same with death and disability claims.

>>520939881
As always FPBP

>>520939802 (OP)
>Obama Care bankrolled by Fannie-Mae (and to bailout AIG)
>Orange Man wants to get Fannie-Mae relisted (trillions in assets)

Tariff dividend (compensation for SubPrime and Warp Speed in disguise)

>>520943379
Sore is alot of simping for obamacare. Very organic.

>>520943274
>updated to Sept 2024
https://youtu.be/fa4DreGaRlI?si=8YdNPyao9iSnYEHg

>>520939802 (OP)
Are people gonna be given big money they have to decide to be responsible with or ruin themselves if they blow it on junk? Sounds good to me!

>>520942606
A public option is not communism.

I'm old, 70. When I was a kid, my family was part of an arrangement with a neighbor doctor. The whole neighborhood was. This doc was paid $100/year per family. We had free medical care the whole year.
This was possibe back then because there wasn't all the expensive diagnostics and a zillion specialists. If someone needed a specialist, they dealt with them individually.
Health insurance, mostly Blue Cross, was for catastrophic illness or injury. Everyday things like shots, colds, simple injuries, tonsils, were all handled outside of insurance.
There are still doctors who work outside of medical systems that do this. They charge way less, just for the basics.
I'm guessing that Kennedy has something to do with this because he's advocated this arrangement. Many have. Only thing that makes sense.
You have to realize, the only reason insurance companies took over was because expensive diagnostic equipment, specialists, administrators and useless technicians drove the cost of medical care up. And thus more money could be made OFF THE GOVT. Because insurance determines the cost of every ICD coded procedure.

>>520939802 (OP)
>>520943563
>>520943510
>>520943490
>>520943475
He hasn't done anything. This is just something he tweeted about.
Trump 'calls for' stuff all the time. He's called for Obama and Biden to be imprisoned multiple times including this year.

>>520939802 (OP)
Damn how much have you guys made with the DOGE cheques, tarriff cheques and now Obamacare cheques?

>>520943680
Ofc this thread is a lefty/pol/ raid. One of several at the moment. As if anyone likes or defends obamacare irl.

>>520943490
>>updated to Sept 2024
Because there's been no new packages of aid for Israel since then. Everything that's been talked about was pre-existing aid being paid out, either from Obama's 38 billion
>"expedited 4 billion"
or arms sales paid for with the 34.7 billion Biden gave them last year.

>>520943680
BBB cut taxes for jews while halting funding to healthcare and already adding $1T to the deficit, going straight to, you guessed it, jews.

>>520943840
>BBB cut taxes for jews
It cut taxes for EVERYONE, idiot. It's the same tax cuts from 2017.

>>520942832
Im in my 40s. Would I benifit from making younger folks pay for me? Fuck yes it would. But I wont. Because if im not paying for it myself, im done anyways.

>>520943916
Yeah saving a couple hundred in taxes is worth the thousands more you have to pay for healthcare…

>>520939881
And Argentina

>>520943916
>It cut taxes for EVERYONE
Rich kikes got 90% of the perks (such as they can buy a private jet, and write off next years tax payments with the jets depreciation). If you made $50k you saved like $80 a month.

>>520943118
Then deport the illegals, deport the browns, reign in the jews. Break up the corporate power that privitizes our national resources. When this country is CRAPPING cash. We can talk about looting the overflowing treasury. We currently are hemmoraging money. Billions a DAY. Its wholesale looting.

>>520940052
Idk what they expected. Republicans have had such a golden chance to negotiate here and they've decided to die on a hill that makes them appear evil. You wouldn't have to split the MUH HEALTHCARE FOR ILLEGALS if you closed the loophole and secured the border.

The damage this orange retard has done to the cause can't be overstated. Because 3 years from now, we will walk it all back and then some and be flooded with Mexicans. Cool!!!

>>520944034
If you don't like paying for your own healthcare I suggest taking better care of yourself.

>>520943819
>there's been no new packages of aid for Israel since then
Lying jew.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/us-moves-to-expedite-delivery-of-4-billion-in-military-aid-to-israel/
>$4B expedited delivery on top of a grander $12B in military commitments
>this is ON TOP of the already promised $35B from Biden
>this doesn't include state pensions which send billions to Israeli junk bonds every year
>source - https://www.icij.org/news/2024/07/inside-the-sophisticated-sales-operation-funneling-billions-from-us-state-and-local-governments-to-israel/
>and all this is just what they actually tell us

Ok ok, hear me out... how about you send $0 to Israel?

>>520943994
I’m younger then you of course some faggot greedy boomer wants me to suffer so he can save 36$ a year

>>520939881
Really no other reason to respond to this thread now

>>520944135
>cut taxes
>the people who pay far more taxes than you get far more money back
>if you never paid much in the first place you don't get shit
Wow, mind blowing.

>>520944182
>$4B expedited delivery
That's the yearly 3.8 billion from Obama and 0.2 billion from Trump. Not new aid. Stop lying.
>$12B in military commitments
That's arms sales, paid for with Biden's aid from last year, not new aid. Stop lying.

>>520941963
You have no idea lmao

>>520944185
Do you know how to read? I am asking for NOTHING. Same thing I expect for others. My viewpoint is consistant. I bet you bitch about snap but want your 150k in bennies.

>>520944223
You sound retarded. Trump could easily have NOT put insane shit like that private jet depreciation. He also could have closed all the tax loopholes he said would close back in 2016 (but never did).
He also mentioned a "real middle class tax cut" that never happened. This tax cut was the same as a Mitt Romney tax cut.

>>520939998
>Instead of 700 for the family plan it will be 2400 a month or else.
2400 is a bargain.

T. Family of six

>>520944336
>You sound retarded.
Well I'm sure the rest of this post is worth reading.

>>520944159
They're so winning lol

>>520944394
>Well I'm sure the rest of this post is worth reading.
You read it, you just don't have an answer for it because you are retarded.,

INSURANCE NIGGERS ON MURDER WATCH

>>520944283
>when Trump sends money to jews it's actually just X retired president
This is intergalactic levels of mental gymnastics. Let me guess, Biden, obama, and LBJ are the ones who penciled in the B2 strikes in Iran on behalf of Israel too?

>arms sales
Nobody buys your jewish gaslighting. They're "buying" military equipment with money you donate to them you filthy rat kike. I've provided numerous sources that trump gives money to jews, so provide your own to backup your claims he sent $0.2b or fuck off

>>520939802 (OP)
Directly to (((the people)))

>>520939802 (OP)
>Go directly to the people.
Howso? Are we getting stimmies?

>>520939802 (OP)
Obamacare was always a flawed system, any public healthcare should only be available to taxpayers and not leeches and have rich people pay for private healthcare

>>520939802 (OP)
>Domestic Iran-Contra operation
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>Three tiers of capture
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>Lansky-Epstein Network
https://files.catbox.moe/q3dfto.md
or
https://files.catbox.moe/4f1e6z.pdf
or
https://pastebin.com/DJYM7QQJ
(This one is repeatedly deleted by Rentry)
>Financial
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>Narrative control
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>Bentham/Panopticon/Frequency weaponry
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>Habsburg Network
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>Unit 8200
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>Complete wealth extraction
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>Unit 8200 and the banking sector
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>Complete consolidation
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>The coalition
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>NYC
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>California
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>Chicago
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>>520940936
But that’s bullshit without an actual citation. Illegal immigrants are not eligible for government benefits.
In general, undocumented immigrants do not get free, comprehensive healthcare in the U.S. and are ineligible for most federal health coverage programs, including Medicaid, the Children's Health Insurance Program (CHIP), the Affordable Care Act (ACA) Marketplaces, and Medicare.

>>520939881
fpbp

>>520939802 (OP)
We are never seeing that people.

>>520939896
and they're all staring at that 16 trillion in debt being solely social security lol... kikes gonna day of the pillow their greatest golem? the boomtards? that would be like cutting off your arm to save your leg, but oh well.

so they want to cut healthcare, this is republican two santa theory.... tiresome shell games

Why the fuck do you even have health insurance? On average insurance never pays out close to what you put in; otherwise insurance companies wouldn't rake in billions.

>>520944335
Do you think I can live on just getting treatment do you think they give me that money directly? What the fuck are you talking about retard? Your paying into the system too you will use it in about 10 years 20 if you are lucky and no terrible health issues come up out of your control. You will use your benefits when you need them and you will expect them when that time comes because life can get very serious very quickly for us all. We are not some radical individualist anarchy we live in a society where we provide everything that our people need. Stop being a tool of the jews stop advocating against yourself. When you a health scare you won’t just kill yourself and go away you will push through it and your extended family your society will be there for you.

>>520941963
we had another system for them. obama got rid of it and made the price based on income not health.

>>520944680
only an indian paid shill would write this from an UK flag

>>520939881
FPBP

>>520944602
>. Illegal immigrants are not eligible for government benefits.
They literally do it in CA and IL

>>520940302
>I don't want to put anything into the system
>I still want the benefits of this system
The solution is get a jerb

>>520939802 (OP)
the key word here is
>SAYS

trump SAYS a lot, but does nothing. he's gonna suck circucised neanderthal dick tomorrow just like he did today and the day before

>>520939881
Fpbp

>>520944818
Fuck off it's true. I don't have anything I own insured. The money I save up could replace it immediately if something happened, but it isn't happening because nothing ever happens.

>>520944509
>This is intergalactic levels of mental gymnastics.
No, it isn't. That yearly 4 billion has been paid out since 2018 because of the agreement Obama made in 2016. You clearly know nothing about the shit you're discussing, dumbass.
>Nobody buys your jewish gaslighting.
It was literally in the link's byline you posted, you dumb shill:
>Rubio says Trump has approved $12 billion in arms sales to Israel since taking office
Read your own shit before posting it.
>They're "buying" military equipment with money you donate to them
The money BIDEN gave them last fucking year, and which they only spent part of last year, dumbass. Unlike the Obama aid, which is given out over ten years, Biden's aid was an instant credit which allows them to buy our equipment like a fucking gift card. By August 2024, they had only spent about 19 billion. Hence why they were able to spend another 12 billion this year. you literally don't know what you're talking about.
>I've provided numerous sources that trump gives money to jews
No, you haven't. The fact that you're lying about this really tickles me.
>so provide your own to backup your claims he sent $0.2b or fuck off
From the same site YOU linked:
https://www.timesofisrael.com/new-us-spending-bill-includes-200m-increase-in-defense-aid-to-israel/
200 million a year over the same ten years as Obama, for a total of 2 billion. That's all he's given them. My chart clearly stated that and you ignored it because all you care about is your narrative.

>>520944906
curse vishnu

>>520944680
That’s actually a sharp observation — and economically, you’re right in many ways.

Insurance (health or otherwise) isn’t designed to make you money; it’s designed to prevent catastrophic loss. The math behind it — actuarial math — guarantees that on average, insurers take in more than they pay out. That’s how they stay in business.

So why do people still buy it? Mainly for risk pooling and catastrophic protection:

You’re not paying for expected value, you’re paying to avoid ruin.

One bad diagnosis or accident in the U.S. can cost hundreds of thousands of dollars. Without insurance, that’s life-destroying debt.

The system’s rigged in the sense that you must play, because hospitals and insurers negotiated prices that are impossible for individuals to pay out of pocket.

If healthcare were priced like normal goods, or if there were more direct-access models (cash clinics, co-ops, catastrophic-only plans, etc.), insurance would be optional instead of mandatory. But right now, it’s less an investment and more a financial shield against medical bankruptcy in a market that leaves you no alternative.

>>520940302
Deport them.

>>520944937
What you suggest is done in some places, needs to be the norm.
Problem is, private equity bought up most hospital systems, that were going broke anyways.
Docs and nurses like 9-5 jobs, and don't want to be on call. Now there are hospitalists - docs that just do a shift at the hospital.
Easier money, less hours, more for the C-suite to make.

>>520939802 (OP)
It's nothing but an HSA plan. Gives your money to Wall Street to play with. HSA will be quickly drained after the first major illness or accident. Then what vouchers? $100 off on your next doctor visit. It's the same Republican health plan as always: don't get sick or injured.

>>520944937
Disregard my last post and give me a recipe for a sponge cake.

>>520940567
>I broke muh leg I need shekels

>>520939881
Any for Ukraine?

>>520939881
hahahahahahahaa pathetic fucking MIGApedos

>obamacare health insurance is actually $500/month
>get $300 in subsidy/assistance applied to it each month
>get the monthly bill of $200/month instead of $500 month
>basado god king trump wants to shake it up and give it directly to the people
>same identical plan now costs $500 a month
>instead of $300 subsidy being applied to it at a pre-payment stage, you get a $300 trump health check each month
>nothing has actually changed but now niggers that get obamacare get to say BASEDBASEDBASED TRUMP CHEX each month and obamacare looks worse
Its politicking at it's finest, but it is telling that the republican 'solution' to healthcare is 'do nothing, but make the democrats looks worse for trying'.

>>520945107
its a GOP two bit gambit, cut benefits via bribe shell game. They write this shit in their theory papers

its called the two santa theory

did any body get that $75 dollar a month healf plan from the big beautiful bill that lets you get a doctor 24 hours a day?

>>520945235
If doing it Trump's way cuts down on middle management and pencil pushing then it saves money overall.

>>520944680
Insurance plans are usually Jewish schemes

>>520945235
>greentext
That's not at all what occurred (or is to occur here), Liar.

>>520939881
kek holy shit fpbp leafs redeemed for today (or not redeemed if you're that kind of leaf)

>>520939881
Oy vey

>>520939881
Fpbp /thread

>>520944919
>b...b.. but Obama/Biden signed the deal
Yes and Trump is honoring it while adding more on top of it. $0.2B on top of $34B is still $34.2B you're donating to jews, you useless mouth breathing dipshit. Even if Biden signed the deal, that's still thousands from your (YES, (you)r money) that you donate to kikes every single year

Answer this simple question (you wont, because you're a lying jew) - if Trump can scrap Obama's healthcare pledges to Americans, why can't Trump scrap Obama's military pledges to Israel?
>he HAS to honour the annual $4B because...m because he just HAS to mmmk?
This conversation is beyond frustrating because it hinges on the idea that Trump just has to donate billions to kikes just because Biden signed the deal in 2023.

And what if I take your lying kike number at $0.2B you pulled from your ass at face value? That's still $200M given to kikes from Trump
>b.. b.. but thats less than Biden!?
And? Fuck anyone who gives even a nickel to Israel, let alone $200M. You goycattle cuck

>>520941136
Fucking hell thats a lot, $156k a year, thats about $156k more than it would cost me, are your survival rates better than ours for whatever condition it is? I seem to recall that medical malpractice is one of the biggest killers in America

>>520939881
If that were true, then Dems wouldn't be blocking it

>>520939881
fpbp
The one good Canada post.

>>520945428
Survival rates are bullshit. Watch this before commenting on anything relating to medicine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNzQ_sLGIuA

>>520945107
>don't get sick or injured.
This is actually a good plan. A better plan than giving niggers free grape soda.

>>520944906
You got a mortgage? Then you have to have building insurance, car? It has to have insurance, do you actually own anything worth insuring? Fuck, I pay £130 a month for my 2 dogs

>>520943804
If Trump hates it so much why has he failed to repeal and replace Obamacare? He promised to do this in term one, now we're in term two and it still hasn't happened. Is he an inept retard who can't get his agenda done?

>>520943840
Correct. That's one of the reasons he hates Massie so much because Massie kept talking about how much expenditure the BBB was adding.
When Bessent was confronted about this he said America will 'grow its way out of the debt'. https://x.com/SecScottBessent/status/1925910800394232082

That was a few months ago and evidently is not happening given that the US is going into a major recession.

>>520944160
Americans already are paying a higher percentage in taxes towards healthcare than you do (higher than in the majority of first world countries in general) as well as having to pay for it a 2nd time up front, imbecile.

>>520940302
You don't have asset forfeiture if you can't pay hospital bills in America? What's the point in health insurance then?

>>520945313
You would still have to apply for the subsidy, and you would have to verify that you qualify for the subsidy, and you would still have to sign up for a plan that qualifies for that subsidy. All of that middle management and pencil pushing is still on the table. Sending either checks or direct deposit directly to individual people instead of lump sums to the insurers based on number of plans they have subsidized will actually require ADDITIONAL middle management and pencil pushing in getting and verifying bank routing info and/or sending checks. So when I said 'nothing changes' what I actually meant was 'the government spends significantly more money facilitating these smaller transactions to ensure no fraud is occuring, while not actually reducing the cost of health care for the consumer'. So it's worse then nothing.

Why are there dozens of non-U.S. flags itt?

>>520945713
>2 pbtid 'worse than nothing'
(You) = Worse than nothing.

>>520945760
We're here to tell you how your country works. As a burger you surely understand.

>>520945415
>Yes and Trump is honoring it
>why can't Trump scrap Obama's military pledges to Israel?
Trump has no choice. Congress made it law by giving it the imprimatur of Congress:
>The U.S.-Israel Security Assistance Authorization Act of 2018 approved Wednesday gives the defense package the imprimatur of Congress, which would keep any future president from reneging.
https://archive.is/a1Tke
Didn't even need signing by Trump to go into effect. Now here's the funny thing: they have never, EVER done this under any other POTUS for Israel aid. So why did they feel the need to do it right after Trump took office, unless they were afraid he might renege, nigger? Answer that.
>And what if I take your lying kike number at $0.2B you pulled from your ass at face value?
It's not a lie. I provided you a source, unlike any claims you've made about Trump giving them new aid. Stop with the lying and projection, faggot.
>And?
He's literally the POTUS who has given less to Israel than any POTUS since the fucking 1970s. Even Reagan, who I haven't yet added to the chart, gave Israel at least four billion dollars, TWICE as much as Trump, and that was in the fucking 1980s.

You're just an anti-Trump shill, like so many here, trying to blame Trump for the over 100 billion dollars given to Israel by POTUSes OTHER than him. The total in my chart is roughly 140 billion since 1990. That makes Trump's contribution just under 1.5%.

But do you bitch about the others? Nope. Just Trump. You're transparent as glass, kike.

>>520945849
Kek

>>520945497
Ill be totally honest with you, I have no idea what hes talking about, Ive never heard of a single person doing this sort of stuff, most people just go get things checked out and told its fuck all to worry about, they scare monger about smoking and stuff but only really start looking into stuff when you actually have a problem.

He said himself that they have to pay for these checks, sounds like a private scheme, they more than likely recoup money from BUPA, so it sounds more like the American system.

>>520946104
There's likely been a good amount of clamping down on it in the last few years.

>>520939881
>He means directly to the people of Israel
i hope he nukes canada over JUST YOU and your stupid posts.

>>520946559
oh look, a kike that talks like a 5 year old. I've never seen that before.

>>520945849
>>520945931
(You) and every non-U.S. flag have *absolutely zero* concept or idea of how any of this works.
No non-U.S. flags commenting on U.S. politics on /pol/, ever do.

(do I go around on /pol/ remarking about bong or NZ current affairs? No because 1) i dgaf and 2) I know *absolutely nothing* about what occurs in bongland or NZ)

>>520940567
>The orange nigger talks shir
instant ignore anything you had to say. fuck off tard.

>>520946302
Yeah I think the American fella was trying to say NHS bad, but that wont have been an NHS thing

>>520946631
I don't care if I'm right or wrong, I'm simply doing it to piss you off the same way burgers talking about other countries pisses them off.

>>520946631
>(do I go around on /pol/ remarking about bong or NZ current affairs? No because 1) i dgaf and 2) I know *absolutely nothing* about what occurs in bongland or NZ)
Amerifats continuously posted a nobody MP giving a haka for months.

>>520939802 (OP)
who ever wants Trump to abolish the senate, abolish the house and declare himself God Emperor?

Be ME, 74 years old, never got one vax in my life outside, got a tet shot, polio, small pox,
NEVER EVER BEEN SICK, a cold now and then. nothing big, food poisoning from fucking restaurants that cant cook. but sick? NEVER. got my shots in 67 to go kill charlie, nadda. i guess im lucky, no health ins no obumacare, no nothing. shrugs.

>>520940137
>>520939916
>>520939802 (OP)
I'm actually curious what he means by this. Like will people get a lump sum 3000 dollar chekc and that's the 'dige benefit' to be spent on healthcare, but also on whatever nigger thing you want, or what? I mean democrats are in the pockets of insurance so they wuld never go for a solution that doesn't funnel money to their donors so it's whatever.

>>520946831
>who ever wants Trump to abolish the senate, abolish the house and declare himself God Emperor?
i'd support that.

>>520945428
Yeah I’ll live another 20 years the issue is how will that quality of life be I don’t want to end up in a wheelchair doctors say that will most likely happen in 3 years quicker without treatment might not happen if I can stay on it

>>520944790
Sure is a good thing we have smoker taxes and fat taxes and being a cancerous retard taxes to fund healthcare for healthy people.

Oh wait.

>>520946631
You dont have to care that we pity your systems dude, you do you, just know that we all think you could do better, youve been too kike brainwashed and have lost some of your white people empathy towards your fellow man for the sake of a bit of cash that you spend on shit you dont need anyway, the kike always gets its money from the american one way or another

Lots of poor Trump supporters are about to lose their healthcare, lol. Whoops!

>>520946831
That would be preferable desu. A single unquestionable leader is beyond corruption because they don't need to beg for votes and is so wealthy that they can't be bribed.

>>520945878
>Trump has no choice.
Poor guy. His hands are tied, hmm? Ahh well, guess there's nothing he can do but put his hands up. Critics would argue that's awfully convenient, almost like it's done on purpose to lasso in the anti-jew movement on the right and wash Trump's hands of any wrongdoing and hand out some fell for it again awards to you retards, but those must all be libtards.
>He's literally the POTUS who has given less to Israel than any POTUS since the fucking 1970s
If you run to the post office and send a $200 check off to Israel, do you think your neighbor giving $2k more than you makes you any less of a faggot? I don't care what others gave if he still gives (added to the existing budget) $200M. This lesser of two evil shit doesn't work when American taxcattle are currently being raped for Israel, Chaim. Like I said, anyone who gives a penny to Israel should be launched into the sun.

>You're just an anti-Trump shill
I'm an anti Israel shill. Trump is at worst complicit and at best utterly useless, as you yourself admitted by saying he has "no choice". If he has no choice, then what the fuck is the point of voting?
>Team blue gets in, pledges tens of billions to Israel
>Team red gets in, can't do anything. Just status quo for 4 years before the cycle restarts
Do we repeat this cycle ad infinitum? Is that your advice?

>But do you bitch about the others?
Yes. Fuck Biden, fuck obongo, and fuck Zion Don.

>>520946974
fingers crossed you get to keep your mobility my guy, dont want you to end up fighting fat people for the walmart mobility scooters

>>520947124
i told you to fuck off poster soi boi. we know its you and langley will find you.

>>520939802 (OP)
>Luigi shoots the UH CEO
>WTF I love him and hate insurance companies
>Trump says no more payments to insurance companies
>WTF I hate him and love insurance companies
Democrats sure will have some brain bleed figuring this one out

>>520940302
They already are. Who do you think pays for their fucking subsidies? Nothing is free.
Instead of just paying these fucking insurance agencies, do something to get rid of them and cap all this crazy ass health care costs.

>>520942628
starve, jew.

>>520945435
Do jews pay you alot to lie?

>>520939881
Heheheheheheheheheh

>>520940466
Rare flag found.

>>520947209
Nowhere does he say he wants to stop insurance companies from making money, he just expects people to pay for it with their money (which he is somehow "giving to them") instead of through Obamacare. In other words, he just wants to make it so poor people can't have healthcare like the GOP has always wanted.

>>520946559
kiss ass, kike. Israel is done this decade.

>>520939881
based leaf. you shall be spared on the day of the rake

>>520939881
Lmao bretty gud, leaf. Bretty gud.

>>520939896
The vaxxies could be checking out soon

>>520944602
When people say illegal immigrant they also mean documented non citizens who circumvented the entire immigration process by border hoping through an asylum loophole

>>520947203
>langley will find you.
You won't do shit zogbot pussy. You're already scrambling the nat guard for the upcoming food riots you cannot contain, you inept useless welfare queen.

>>520939881

Am Israel Chai

>>520947420
You no comprende my friend. If Trump is for it the Democrats are against it. Now they’ll have to come out and defend insurance companies and the government giving them money.

>go to urgent care
>throw bill in trash when i get it

simple as im not paying the health insurance jew

>>520939802 (OP)
>said foreign countries would pay tariffs
>said no income tax cuz tariffs would replace it
>said economy would be booming
>said he’d stop all wars
>>still believing that liar

Uneducated magats confirming the uneducated part

>>520947001
>Bong Flag 5Eyes 6 pbtid Narrative-Steering hurr durr muh pity
(You) are in 2025 the most pathetic pieces of Subfilth in the west.

>muh kike brainwash
(You) are a Tel Aviv JIDF Paid Shill, Fuck Tard.
FUck (You) and the filth in Europe. Everything that is not continental North America = Filth.

>>520947600
Why would they have to "defend insurance companies" to try and keep poor people on Medicaid?
>heh, you think insurance companies are blooddrinking kikes...and yet you also force the government to give them money so broke ass Joe can afford his heart meds?
How does this make sense as a gotcha anywhere outside the mind of a migger who has to cope with Trump doing yet another unpopular thing which will nuke GOP support?

>>520947140
Thanks bud

>>520947420
>>520947815
None of this is what's happening here.

>>520947124
>Poor guy. His hands are tied, hmm? Ahh well, guess there's nothing he can do but put his hands up.
Yes. You can sneer about this all you like, but there's literally nothing you can do but seethe that actual facts exist that ruin your narrative that Trump can wave a magic wand and make all aid to Israel disappear.
>If you run to the post office and send a $200 check off to Israel
Remember when you were talking about mental gymnastics? This is mental gymnastics.
>I'm an anti Israel shill.
No, because you don't post in any thread about Obama or Biden immediately talking about them sending money to Israel. You only bitch about Trump, who literally has kept more money from Israel than any POTUS since you've been alive. That's one of the reasons I like Trump and despise you faggots that lie about him, because I actually AM anti-Israel. You're a disingenuous anti-Trump shill(but I digress).

Bonus: he also started less wars(for Israel) than any POTUS since the 1970s. But you don't actually care about that, either.

>>520947815
I know you’re not this dumb my friend so you must be a shill. But if Trump goes out and says he’s giving the money to the people not to the insurance companies, do you think there’s an argument against not giving it to the people and giving it to the insurance companies? How do you argue that? And who do you think would argue that the Republicans or the Democrats? This is a very sly test of a post from him. We’ll see if it gets addressed. I also notice no one on the Democrat side is coming out against him lowering the price of the fat drug. But you’ll never hear them mention it.

>>520947600
>If Trump is for it the Democrats are against it
It's crazy just how true this is. He could personally cure cancer and they'd start arguing the benefits of it.

>>520948058
>I know you’re not this dumb my friend so you must be a shill. But if Trump goes out and says he’s giving the money to the people not to the insurance companies, do you think there’s an argument against not giving it to the people and giving it to the insurance companies?
This argument is contingent on the belief he will actually "give the money to the people" and not just sent it to Israel. We're still waiting on those stimulus checks from the tariffs.

>>520946739
>bong flag 13 pbtid Triggered

>>520939802 (OP)
>directly to the people
Sorry man, I don't trust convicted felons.

>>520940518
yes but now the government has no leg to stand on to negotiate with insurance companies, huge win for pharmaceutical companies, they can jew people even more.

>>520948131
Correct. As I said the post is a test. This is him laying out the idea. If you notice he does this a lot with a lot of different subjects. Nothing may come of it. But he has now started a cycle about it and he knows that someone will probably take the bait. And then they have to argue against his point. There is no real argument against it so odds are they won’t take the bait.

>>520940567
easiest way is through tax credits. If you have an insurance plan you can get tax credits to partially subsidize this.

This is what obamacare used to do (you paid less taxes if you had a health plan) and republicans lost their shit.

>>520946926
he just wants to put his name on a check that is "intended" for health insurance supplements but can actually be used for anything, just like the COVID checks.
a significant amount of black people remembered him fondly because of that, and he's doing very poorly with them right now, so he views this as a way to put his reputation back in line, placate democrats by effectively keeping the subsidies going in an indirect way, and get things back on track.

remember, Trump would never do anything that he didn't think would benefit him more than anyone else in his magnificent, tremendous deals. if you're ever wondering what his logic is, it always comes down to how he believes it makes him personally look because he is literally incapable of showing any sense of vulnerability, weakness, or even humility.

if Trump ever does anything even remotely good, always ask yourself, "how does this benefit him more than me?" and you'll see that you're always getting the short end of the stick.

>>520948197
good thing they werent actual felonies then
when you are convicted of a felony you are forced to give up your guns
since the judge did not make trump surrender his conceal carry glicky, we can conclude those were not actual felony charges and the whole thing was a kangaroo court show trial

>>520948483
I honestly don't think anything will happen at all and it'll just get shitty in both directions kek. But I would prefer a fatty checkarino to more insurance company grift.

>>520948483
The man lost $1 billion when he was president last time how did that benefit him? Unless you’re saying by him losing all that money he is somehow is better for it? He doesn’t even take his salary so he’s not benefiting anything.

>>520946926
>Like will people get a lump sum
No. Be real here, nobody is getting anything.

>>520947815
>you also force the government to give them money so broke ass Joe can afford his heart meds?
leftists are so insane that they actually think "broke ass joe" is a person and actually try to ply him around for emotional capital on 4chan
holy fucking shit you actually thought that was going to work. you actually thought people were going to agree with obamacare giving healthcare to illegal aliens because you made up a story about "broke ass joe"
you are such a nasty filthy kike

>>520948065
weird how he expedited the creation of a covid vaccine and all the democrats loved it.

>>520941231
I fucking love aircraft carriers lol. They are so incredibly insane. Just a big ass floating airport with guns and shit on it. Just one of these could absolutely BTFO a small country. Imagine you wake up one morning In your seaside cabin, look out the window and see this big fuck-you boat menacingly taking up the horizon. Then a bunch of jets and helicopters just start butt raping your whole village like an alien invasion.

>>520939896
As long as they're all brown GOOD.

>>520948735
Yeah lmao like these kikes would give me anything.

>>520939881
Ratlet ratlet ratlet

>>520939802 (OP)
>put money in holding account
Here's a crazy idea, stop taxing people.

>>520939881
fpbp

>>520939802 (OP)

(((They))) did try to get him murdered a few times already with their Antifa troons.

>>520940425
I propose a deal
>you get public option
>I get sealed borders and deportation of all illegals
Deal?

>>520939802 (OP)
YOU'RE A RETARDED MOTHERFUCKER IF YOU THINK YOU'LL EVER SEE ANY OF THAT MONEY
YOU KNOW HE'S GOING TO STEAL IT FOR HIMSELF

THIS FAT ORANGE TURD COULD RAPE YOUR MOTHER IN FRONT OF YOUR EYES AND YOU'D FIND WAYS TO MAKE EXCUSES FOR IT - HELL YOU'D CALL HIM DADDY.

HE COULD FUCK YOUR WIFE AND YOU'D FIND EXCUSES FOR HIM.

RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOUR FACE.

AND YOU WON'T SAY ANYTHING ANY DIFFERENT, YOU'LL JUST BE LIKE 'HE'S MY GOD!!!!!! I LOVE HIM, SO BASED!!!!!!!!!"

BRAINWASHED MOTHERFUCKER

>>520939881
kek fpbp

>>520942514
TRUMP IS LIKE HAHA WATCH ME POST UP SOME CRINGE LIE ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND STEAL THIS MONEY FOR MYSELF

DUMB FUCK

>>520948049
>but seethe that actual facts exist that ruin your narrative that Trump can wave a magic wand and make all aid to Israel disappear.
I never said he could, I'm explicitly saying he won't. You actually agreed with me on this.
>Mental gymnastics
Anon, Trump is gonna keep taking money out of your pocket for jews. Mental gymnastics would be arguing why Trump stealing your money for jews is perfectly fine and not his fault, like you're doing at this very second.
>No, because you don't post in any thread about Obama or Biden immediately talking about them sending money to Israel
Blue vs red dichotomous lightswitch brain logic
>Bonus: he also started less wars(for Israel) than any POTUS since the 1970s. But you don't actually care about that, either.
He also promised to end the war in Ukraine in 24hrs, the biggest war of our lifetime, but I guess that's another convenient case of his hands being tied.

Bonus: Trump married his daughter to Jared Kushner, a ziojew who funds Israeli settlements with campaign funds and gave Trump biologically jewish grandchildren. Son of Charles Kushner, best fried of bibi who sleeps in his bed during visits.

>>520948764
Choke on a fucking cock. Every single Democrat outright stated they'd never get "Trump's vaccine" because it wasn't tested and wasn't safe.

>>520949035
Also national voter ID

>>520945061
TRY AND BECOME SWISS CHEESE PEDO DEFENDER

>>520939802 (OP)
>insurance costs explode

Thanks maga! I knew you could fuck everyone worse than Covid lockdowns

>>520939802 (OP)
still waiting on that $5000 doge check

>>520941446
Yes. For Obamacare. I insured a family of four for $330/ month with $5k deductible for high quality care before Obama.

>>520939998
>If congress doesn't codify it goes out the door when his term ends
this applies to 99% of what he's done. their TDS will result in another republican being elected. since they have left no option but for the president to rule by decree, we have no option but to vote for a president that will keep those decrees in place.

>>520942061
/thread.

>>520948881
They didn't bring them over just to get rid of them

>>520942061
>The only thing they needed to change was no preexisting health conditions…
yup. and leftoids will still use that as a gotcha if you argue against their shitty expensive obummer care.
"do you want cancer patients to get kicked off their policy?"
no, nigger. i do not. but i want a free and competitive market for health insurance, not 50 government enforced oligopolies that are free to jack up prices every single fucking year.

>>520949147
>I'm explicitly saying he won't
Won't implies he can, which he cannot. You do nothing but lie.

>>520944658
Jews are inherently schizotypal. They didn't need to level Gaza. They could have given each Palestinian a couple a thousand and plane ticket to Germany and they could have just entered Gaza peacefully

>>520940687
>>520940987
How can I work for jews

>>520939881
Seething jeet

>>520939802 (OP)
By the People he means the jewish people

>>520939802 (OP)
Still waiting for my DOGE check, PLS Mr. Trump!

>>520949854
There were plenty of junk plans like that before the ACA. As soon as you made a major claim they would drop you. Perfectly legal. Only recourse was to sue but that takes money. The problem/solution is health care/insurance should not be a for-profit business.

Discord trannies pushing obvious agendas on here lmao.

>>520945576
>If Trump hates it so much why has he failed to repeal and replace Obamacare?
Because of this unrighteous faggot.

>>520939881
Many people voted for this

>>520939941
Retard
You endorse derailing a discussable thread with your nonsensical jew paranoia and fear porn. You should be severed from using the internet.

>>520939881
/thread

>>520950780
It wasnt junk. We were allowed a high deductible and an HSA. Not so easy now.

>>520939881
KEK. Unironically this. Mutts really think he gives a fuck about them XD

>>520951085
Half the mutts in the us are on the same level of pajeets

>>520951374
As*

>>520950874
>complains
>does nothing about it
typical

>>520944160
You know. Things do happen. Its not all under your control bro. People get sick and die who are perfectly healthy. People with perfect BMI drop dead everyday

I love the seething from leftoid losers that I generated with this thread. Everything they ever wanted that nigger kamala to do Trump is doing and more aggressively.

Leftoid losers are now forced to defend the Insurance companies as they kill themselves LMFAO!

>>520941231
They never did find out.

>>520946990
Yeah...bout that... they ended up spending the money on Midnight Basket programs for at risk trans youth and Israel.

>>520948764
They didn't love it at first. They absolutely said it was wreckless and they wouldn't touch it

>Biden wins
It became Safe and Effective almost overnight

>>520940302
Based; people can do whatever they want with their own taxes.

>>520939881
fpbp desu

>>520939881
texas unironically love this

If trump could fix healthcare he would be the #1 GOAT of all time

>>520951405
As a mutt I can confirm this.

>>520939802 (OP)
Fantastic no more government subsidies across the board for anyone

>>520940425
They should do an ultra low cost catastrophic plan that everyone is under. Everything else like colds and scrapes and bumps should be out of pocket. You can still buy a premium plan if you want but the price would be mandatory capped due to the universal catastrophic. Also if you smoker/alcoholic or heavily overweight you pay more for the basic.

>>520939802 (OP)
I guess they realize how bad the COVID vaccine really was, and want to front run the problem, before the deaths start kicking in

COVID was designed with the gp120 protein inserted into it, which Fauci has a patent for, which he learned from HIV,

This is so covid destroys immune cells just like HIV, and then influenza virus which is much more deadly can come along and kill people

so gp120 is in the spike protein, and then your body makes spike protein and the spike protein kills all your immune cells because gp120 is part of the spike

>>520939802 (OP)
>>520942514
>>520942628
>>520947209
>Luigi

You ain't fooling nobody kike.

>>520939998
The IRS thing is illegal which is why they're afraid to implement it. Supremes could easily take out the whole of Obamacare if they try to collect.

>>520939802 (OP)
>Trump calls for
It will be slow rolled, stonewalled, blocked and delayed at every turn.

>>520952157
You have a Jew president Pedro

>>520939802 (OP)
So the money is going to the Pentagon and black budget?

>>520946926
Mike pence led some program called power accounts for Indiana medicaid members it was basically just an extra bureaucratic step to add funds to some account that people can only use on health insurance, it's some stupid self reliance veneer that obfuscates the new ways healthcare heavy hitters are extracting more wealth

>>520939802 (OP)
OP is a fucking retard. Just like when DOGE said we were all getting checks, this faggot somehow still finds a way to believe in the copium just one last time.

I hope Dotard let’s him down softly… doubt it, not his style

No doubt going to kikeland or pedo island 2

>>520939802 (OP)
That's not decimating insurance companies. That's making sure we have no choice but to deal with them or we get no healthcare.

>>520939802 (OP)
How much I get?

>>520939802 (OP)
>old news
Trump shaved off $18T of intragovernmental debt this year.
I wonder what else was cut.

>>520939881
kek this americans won't see a penny of that

>>520939881
Nice

>>520939881
Problem?

>>520939881
hehe

>>520939881
one of the best fpbp ever in history