Thread 521210249

I'm so fucking tired of people reducing depression to "your brain chemicals are broken, take these pills". Yeah, serotonin exists, obviously depression manifests neurologically, but WHY are so many people's brains broken in exactly the same way at exactly the same time? You think it's just coincidence that depression rates have exploded under neoliberalism?

We live in a system that tells us we can be anything if we just work hard enough, that our worth is measured by our productivity and success, and then when we inevitably crack under the pressure of this impossible standard, we're told it's OUR fault, our defective brains, our personal failing. The achievement society has turned us all into entrepreneurs of ourselves, grinding away with this feeling of "freedom" that's really just self-exploitation. You're simultaneously the boss cracking the whip and the worker getting beaten, and when you finally collapse from exhaustion, when you literally cannot achieve anymore, the only person to blame is yourself. That's the auto-aggression that creates depression. It's not a chemical imbalance that fell from the sky, it's the psychological injury of waging war against yourself in a system designed to extract maximum performance until you burn out. Pharma companies make billions convincing us this is a medical problem requiring medical solutions, deliberately obscuring the social and economic roots because acknowledging those would require actually changing the system instead of just medicating its casualties.

>>521210249 (OP)
before antidepressants there weren't school shootings.

>>521210249 (OP)
these actually create chemical imbalance, ironic
>>521210351
this

>>521210249 (OP)
so far as i heard theres no real evidence regarding brain chemistry changes in the mentally ill at all.

>>521210249 (OP)
Tldr

Mental health wouldn't even be a thing if we still had strong communities

>>521210439
Everything is upside down. The air dryer in the bathrooms make your hands even dirtier than before washing your hands.

>>521210249 (OP)
Weed fixed my depression

>>521210537
This , so much this

>>521210249 (OP)
depression is a healthy response to the current outside world
of course they'd want you to course correct with chemical injections that make you indifferent to the current outside world

>>521210249 (OP)
didn't read

antidepressants are bad news. don't

>>521210249 (OP)
Demoralization by the communists.

>>521210249 (OP)
> we live in a system that tells us that our worth is measured by our productivity and success
Thought about this on my walk tonight. Saw the northern lights and went and listened to the river. Do you know who Terry Fox is? In Canada he is like a hero. He got cancer, lost a leg and then tried to walk across canada with one leg and a prosthetic. If you think about it, that could have just as easily been achieved by a few days in a car or a few hours in a plane.

Obviously people realize it's not the getting from one place to another in Canada that's impressive. It's not really what he accomplished. It's more what he individually overcame and how that is inspirational. It show the grit of the human spirit. I don't think in the objective, sterile, disenchanted, material world we normally live in like quote related that what Terry Fox did would really actually be important at all. Obviously everyone realizes it is though, so it kind of acts to disproof that worldview.

>>521210581
> A jew

>Needing chemicals to function
Lmao at your LIFE!!!!

>>521210249 (OP)
Life has always sucked. We are at the peak of human satisfaction with peace, abundant food, medicine and technology yet people dont enjoy it

>>521210249 (OP)
SSRIs dont even work on me they just make me rage out at the slightest thing. I wosh they did work because at this point i would be fine being an oblivious zombie npc

>>521210249 (OP)
Take the sun, eat fermented foods and healthy foods, train yourself, sleep well, an the depression will disappear without medication

They're supposed to be a short- to medium-term fix to stabilize the psychoemotional state of someone who's literally about to kill themselves while they get their life and brain sorted, not something you take permanently

>>521211840
Because we werent meant to live like this dumbass. For thousands of years survival was a constant struggle now we just stay inside and avoid niggers.

>>521210249 (OP)
Pills are for pussies I've been depressed for years yet I'm soldiering on fr fr no cap

>>521211973
You can move to a third world country and struggle like your ancestors

>>521212016
Honestly kind of based. I will white knuckle my way through life until i drop dead from a heart attack at 65 just like my father and his father before him.

All depression can be cursed with a regular dose of wellbutrin (not an SSRI, won't make your dick limp) and a small dose a speed.
It would be give you energy, and not turn you into a zombie.
This is the god tier combo and what all doctors should be doing.
However, it's just putting a bandaid over the issue.
Of course lots of people will be depressed when the economy is shit, surrounded by niggers, stressed, shit diet, etc

>>521212301
God tier combo is touching grass, niggerchud.
Or making jews unfertile, since killing jews is terrorismo or smthng.

>>521212196
There are no thirld worl white countries sorry nerd

>>521212215
I just smoke weed to help me laugh at the retarded clownworld

>>521210553
Lol no it didn’t
You could cope better not having your pain in full 8k HD every day, but your problem is still there

>>521210249 (OP)
>>521210468
Antidepressants just work; because they work, okay!?
You better believe it

>>521211951
Except for when they give you the energy needed to KYS yourself. Check the black box warning. Increased chance of suicide during initial treatment.

>>521212301
There's only 1 class of REAL antidepressants

>>521210249 (OP)
>WHY are so many people's brains broken
because society is broken. humans were never meant to live in societies this large and interconnected. people eating nutrient deficient foods, lack of fibre, causing a bunch of health conditions. there is no single cause it's an accumulation of many different things.

>>521210249 (OP)
>WHY are so many people's brains broken in exactly the same way at exactly the same time?
cause they live in dangerous low trust urban hellholes?

>>521210249 (OP)
There's not a single case where ssri's were prescribed that couldn't have been solved with simple lifestyle changes. Instead of fixing their life, they take pills that delude them into thinking life's problems aren't so bad. But they are. The conditions that cause the depression never went away. That's why so many on ssri's commit suicide or other violence. Their life still sucks but now they have less inhibitions about ending it. The way they give every single medical patient a questionnaire asking them if they're sad in order to prescribe them mind altering drugs is actually insane. The only thing more insane is the number of people that actually go along with it.

>>521210249 (OP)
Parasites.
I'm not kidding.

>>521210249 (OP)
>why are there so many mindbroken people
picrel read his manifesto

>>521210249 (OP)
>reducing depression to "your brain chemicals are broken

It fucking is, Wellbutrin is the shit

>>521213944
>living in such an unnatural world that youre forced to emotionally labotimise yourself with jewish pharma
>its the shit
Lol

>>521213710
Bullshit. I agree with your point for 75% of the time however modern society is so completely fucked there is no fixing our condition when our brains know we are living in a fucking zoo. I am not on ssris btw i just suffer through it.

If anything gives it away that it's all bullshit, the doctor's behavior speaks volumes:

>doctor I'm depressed or anxious
>Dr: Omg your serotonies are broken! Try this medicine
>I feel even worse and now have both symptoms really bad
>Dr: Thats because we need to try another medicated (picks one randomly from a list)
>makes you take one medication while reducing another, symptoms go wild
>doctor every time I look around too quickly i get brain shocks now
>Dr: I dont know what those are so they aren't a thing. And no, I won't google it. Lets try another medication *throws dart at spinning wheel*
>the new medication is just a remix of one of the others you've taken
>this process repeats for months or years until the doctor finally recommends the same drug you started on in the beginning

It's actually fucking insane. And if you dare bring up that recent white papers can't even conclusively link serotonin to any of these issues, they look at you like your an asshole, and of course refuse to look it up because the average doctor hasn't actually read a medical study since they were in school

>>521210249 (OP)
I would literally never be depressed again in my life if I had a goth gf who let me suck on her titties every day. Oxytocin is a hell of a drug.

>>521212992
Based poppy-bee :3

>>521212967
It amazes me that this is so little recognized and spoken about. It's frustrating to hear discussions about how all these school shooters were taking some kind of SSRI as if that was the agent of their action. It was the enabler; energizer and disinhibitor. Take someone in a dark place, in a deep trough and suddenly give them a temporary restoration of their agency and ability to act. Think they might do something destructive? The debilitation of depression may actually be nature making a pro-social adaptation preventing the sufferer from harming self or others.

>>521210249 (OP)
>im tired of science
>what do you mean the brain and all of us are made of chemicals
>what do you mean the brain needs calcium and magnesium in order to form memories
>what do you mean not everyone has the same brain make up either
>what do you mean the brain is literally who I am
I’m sure you’d rather believe that some gay dragon sent by god to fuck you up the ass is the cure for non existent government psyop depression, that’s fine, you just can’t be in charge of anything and deserve to be poor.

>>521210249 (OP)
your brain is perfeclty fine
your brain senses the bullshit and toxicity in the world
thats why you are depressed
they tell you to take that shit so you no longer notice their bullshit
and so you become a subservient drug addict to them and their bullshit factory
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Based

>>521214422
checking double digits of truth
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verdict: legitness confirmed

>>521210249 (OP)
>we're told it's OUR fault, our defective brains, our personal failing.
Who the fuck else is to blame for your personal failure? Nobody owes you anything, you fucking child. Your ancestors went through poverty, famine, war, etc.
Yes taking antidepressants is (for the most part) retarded. They were created to make pharma companies rich. But using this to complain that society makes your life too hard is equally retarded

>>521215620
Shut up mutt.
Nobody should be allowed to live among mutts and be ruled by jews.
That's the origin of all mental illnesses, and it's justified.

>>521210249 (OP)
If depression is caused by society, then society needs changing, not the depressed people.
They get drugged into fitting into society. It's like hitting a gear with a hammer because the machine has broken to the point that the good gear doesn't fit anymore.

>>521215620
>poverty, famine, war

Still better than:

>3x increase in rent prices within 5 years
>inflation fucking you from every angle
>most people are now corporate slaves who make just enough to go to work the next day
>indian battle royale
>companies now incentivized to hire foreigners through subsidies
>everything you drink, eat, and breath is made of poison
>worse homelessness and drug problem in recorded history, even worse than when entire cities were leveled by bombs

You still have your poverty. It's worse than ever.

You still have famine, it just looks better under fluorescent light.

You have even more war than ever before thanks to our nose friends.

>>521210249 (OP)

Yeah it's shit culture, lack of meaningful community and lack of higher metaphysical purpose but it's also biological.
Shit food, poor quality sleep and lack of exercise.
Remove sugar and seed oils from your diet, remove sources of blue light a few hours before bed and get checked for sleep apnea, and go for a 30 min jog 3x/week.
It won't fix the external social factors but it will definitely improve your brain function and thus mental health.

This advice is basically free so you won't hear it from a psychiatrist. They're trained to prescribe you an expensive pill for life

I am upset for good reason, I don't go to the doctor or psychiatrist for "help" because that will just trap me further; there's also depression but that only affects very few people, it's rare, that's when you're so upset and without hope that you will stop eating and/or taking care of yourself, but apparently, because depression has become an excuse to get paid welfare, it has been reduced to a questionnaire or check-box exercise.

They will throw you on the anti-depressants just because your dog died and they rather you get back to work. No, you will not be allowed time to mourn your dead grandparents - it's fucking evil, that's why I get double-upset or for some people, they go depressed and shoot their brains out or suicide. It's political because this happens so often now, that most women are on anti-depressants, they are not supposed to be working AND raising the kids, they should pick one or the other and stop eating pills, they need to find their balls (or whatever female equivalent) and face the suffering, live through it, accept it.

>>521215620
Then nobody owes anything.
*withholds taxes and rent*

>>521210614
>healthy response
Wrong, it's a symptom, and the final solution is >>521210488

>>521210249 (OP)
>pills not to kill yourself
damn it sucks being white

>>521214721
This is an interesting idea. Thanks for sharing.

The serotonin thing is a meme, they don't know how it works. The chemical imbalance is total bullshit.

>>521214819
If a “non existent” dragon from God fucks me in the ass and cures my depression, was it truly non-existent? It existed to me- it acted on me- it cured me. So what is it to exist? Reality is but perception, so if it was real in my mind, it has all the same effects as if it were real in “agreed reality”. Right?

Ever seen Shallow Hal? It’s kindof cringe, but very accurate. Who gives a fuck that you’ve deluded your world view beyond what society agrees on? So long as you’re happy, why should society give a fuck?

>>521210553
weed doesnt fix shit. introspection and spirituality(even if it's delusional) do help with beating depression.
t.pot smoker for 14 years, never took any ssri crap

>>521210249 (OP)
The reason they are depressed is because drug use causes permanent damage to serotonin receptors. The concept that brain altering chemicals causes no permanent damage is absolutely fucking absurd. Every time you come across one of these permanently depressed leftists, I guarantee you it is always paired with a history of long-term drug use.

>>521216199
The important take away is that there is “situational depression”, then there’s “predisposition for depressive states”. Some peoples minds probably are wired very wrong, given that evolution is just survival of mutations that benefitted the species in question, and given that every damn genius on this god forsaken planet had a “mis-wired socially fucked brain”, ie Asperger’s, it’s not such a far leap that some people’s brains may be mutating in different ways, becoming better psychopaths and liars, while the buttburger mind naturally seeks truth and lifting up society rather than themselves.

A wise psychologist I once spoke to outside of his place of work once told me that he’s quite certain he would be out of a job if the populace would just find a way to be OK with recognizing that they are under stress and need a break, learning to either manage their home-work life balance or to at least take a vacation at the end of completing the big, stressful project they’ve been killing themselves over. He was adamant about it, that people just need to take vacations from their lives if they can’t manage to put together a life they can be content with. He lived in MA where one can check themselves into and back out of mental health facilities, they cannot keep you without your consent- that being said, in MA, there are ways to get involuntarily committed, but it takes several independent boards of people to do so, not just the word of one stranger backed up by a cop. So YMMV if you try to check into a facility down south- as in, don’t do it dog.

>>521217610
>lmao, conservatives are immune to depression becanse we have God and live right, never ever being tempted by the beer-Jew, coffee, or cigarettes. I’m totally happy with my life living under usury and see nothing wrong with it at all!

>>521217255
This is the advantage of the “ever-present nigger”. No concept of his past or future selves- those are other niggers, not his problem. No concept of the fact that doing right by society IS doing right by oneself. I envy you in this way- you are probably capable of true contentment and happiness in this world, because you cannot see how fucked it is, how deep the tendrils of usury reach. You are a peoples still enslaved, yet you do not know it, demanding reparations for what has never ended.

>>521214422
This is what happened to me
They are now suggesting the same shit they suggested 10 years ago
Nothing has changed
Nothing
They've perfected the wealth extraction formula
So why change it

>>521210249 (OP)
Too long didnt read. Drugs dont work. Do not trust someone offering SSRIs, or SNRIs. Vyvanse? Might work. Seroquel? That shit works. Rexulti? Not only does it work, it will permenantly change your brain.

The cure to depression is improving your situation, positive internal dialogue, and grandually improve your situation, despite feeling like shit. Ssris have a DIRECT correlation to increased suicide rates, violent outbursts and lower quality of life. Worst part? This has been known for decades.

>>521218859
I’d like to tell you to find a different doctor, but it seems like you would have if you could. Does Canada not allow you to choose your own GP, your own psych or therapist? Are you stuck with the providers they suggest, or is it an issue of uniform medical standards that would lead to the same outcome no matter who you chose to see? Or perhaps something else, like waitlists being years long? Maybe a mixture of the above?

>>521218933
>I condemn effort posting and greatly look forward to the dissolution of this website.

>>521218795
blablablah
the rope calls for you, whitey

>>521214422
Can confirm. And they make a shit load of money doing it. Absolute scum of the earth.

>>521219194
Oh, it calls for me alright. Calls for me to string up people like you.

>>521219446
“People”
I meant negroids

>>521210249 (OP)
First paragraph: Yes.

Second paragraph: No, in nuanced ways.
The reason for stress is modern society stresses Renaissance man education, engineers take archeology, political science, in the hopes the more concepts in their brain, the more sources of alternative solutions. There’s also the person that can’t convey their nuanced insights in a way that others can understand will never have a group capable of assembling the pieces to adequate standard because they don’t know what the pressure tolerances are for.

Universities are not a place I’d recommend for people passionate about STEM. I’d recommend staying at their local colleges that will even let you take a test all day if you have the psychologist paperwork.

Pharma only puts bandaids on people that refuse to change their routines for fear of reduced earnings, and lifestyle prospects. Continuously changing is somewhat stressful. It’s akin to letting 15 strangers in your house for the reason their interesting and are open to informing you of, and letting participate, in their hobbies and work, you’d have to prioritize one, but you already got to know them all and let them in. Feels bad to exclude them.
Part of it is actually socialism. Your buildings are masterpieces of insulation, electric wiring, ducting, refrigerator, dishwasher, microwave, plumbing for 3 bathrooms and a kitchen, septic tank to process waste (public and self good not allowing an outhouse), lighting, clothes washer, dryer, even the foundation dug out and filled with sand and gravel and topped with concrete. You are not allowed to build subpar housing even for yourself because it creates a dichotomy between those that have all amenities and those that don’t. The gov will not allow that to happen. Cities are stricter because statistics of stupidity become 1 in several million causing a fire or explosion that takes complexes. Fire is primary reason European cities were built out of stone.

>>521219489
I'm not the one getting remplaced.
Keep coping white genocide is ongoing.

>>521210249 (OP)
The chemical imbalance theory was never proven. It was created in the 1970s to push people onto drugs.

>>521219124
Bruh, after your post, I read it. It was a semicoherent rambling post that could be summarized in three sentences, and I agree with the fundamental premise. This is not "effort posting". The fact you think it's "effort posting" in any capacity speaks to when you came here, and your intellectual capacity.

There is no theory, there arent any stats, there is no support. This is one guy's opinion in a paragraph THAT I AGREE WITH, not effort posting.
>t. Guy who spent almost two decades legitimately teaching gibbering anonymous retards post structural philosophy

>>521210249 (OP)
Truly it is a mystery.

>>521210249 (OP)
> Yeah, serotonin exists, obviously depression manifests neurologically,
You should try to be aware that certain things are repeated means that you're saying because you were trained. They debunked serotonin imbalance as a source of "depression" already.

>>521210249 (OP)
>>521219604
Why the relevance? Necessary Costs of modern living, and the necessity of not merely passionate education but Renaissance man stressful standards, all these stresses are a result of needing to communicate, understand governing structures, keep organized in paperwork, capable people, and fostering repertoire with supportive and uplifting in mood and capability friends.

Honestly, England is closer to keeping old ties between aristocracy and plebeians, in that if plebeians feel they are being displaced or their voices cauterized, they’ll mass revolt. They’ve flipped the entire UK from solidly labor, to solidly conservative, to some semblance of what was before, to giving Reform UK control of 12 local councils.

>>521218933
Seroquel and vyvanse are garbage.

My depression is that I didn't have gf when I was 20 and now I'm 30 and poor. That's it. You can't fix it either because I won't ever be 20 again, thanks for nothing.

>>521220956
Vyvanse? Bretty gud, help you get shit done; unmedicated adhd often causes clinical treatment resistant depression so it's worth a shot. Seroquel? You'll gain 100lbs, sleep all day, and generally not give a shit, but you wont be depressed.

fuck depression, how does one fix anxiety

>>521221529
Nah, vyvanse and seroquel are trash.

>>521222022
Go on then, show your work.

>>521212196
>You can move to a third world country and struggle like your ancestors
Why move? The third world is coming to us!

>>521210249 (OP)
They have no way of testing your brain chemistry. So for them to insist there's a chemical imbalance would require them to be able to prove it first. Or at least define what a chemical balance is supposed to look like. Since they can't do either and they're still using the same 4 decade old marketing jargon to justify the so-called medicine they're selling, it's safe to say this is one big massive ruse on a level not even the manufactures could've predicted. You will never convince me back then they really thought people would be retarded enough to believe their bullshit this long since its entire reason for existing is held together by this untestable idea of some imbalance of magical chemicals inside your brain.

"You don't cure depression. You just learn how how to live with it."