Thread 18128040

during the height of the attitude era, if a star wrestler from the 70s or 80s did a promo battle with Steve Austin, the crowd would scream for Austin and boo the old guy. But today, if Austin came out and did a promo battle with a top guy from the current era, the crowd would cheer for Austin again. That is proof that the wrestling business has been dead since he retired and no amount of zoomer cope can deny that the current product is inferior.

>>18128040 (OP)
>the crowd would cheer for the biggest star in the history of the business
What a high iq revelation

>>18128040 (OP)
>That is proof that the wrestling business has been dead since he retired
This is obviously a fact but zoomers will cope by saying "record profits" because they think they understand how a corporation as huge as WWE was makes money.

>>18128040 (OP)
>they wouldn’t have popped for hulk hogan
I don’t know about that brother hh

>>18128040 (OP)
Literally if they had Bron Breakerr come out and beat up black guys every week he'd be more over than Austin. That's the only reason casuals watched back then, they wanted Austin to beat up Nigger Rock.

>>18128108
That's the point: it's been over two decades and no one after Austin/Rock has come close to matching their star power. And that includes Cena, Batista, Roman, Punk. But before Austin you had Hulk Hogan.

>>18128162
If they pushed Penta as an ICE-killer adjacent character he'd get over. Literally it's "hate speech" that made Attitude work, it sells more than sex which they have been relying heavily on even with the PG audience.

Stone Cold showed up at Wrestlemania and almost killed a woman in the front row.

>>18128162
Well they're two kinds of wrestlers that are damn near once in a lifetime, so you shouldn't just take it as a given that we should get someone on their level. We'd be lucky to get even another Cena.

>>18128040 (OP)
Not really, the 90's were about destroying tradition. The whole Anti-hero thing got pushed hard in all (((media)))

>>18128040 (OP)
Wrestling is dead, says the retard who keeps repeating it in hopes that it will come true

>>18128324
You have to admit even if you like it and it's thriving that "wrestling" doesn't resemble anything of its previous former selves from the carnival to public access television to cable and the global stage. It's as dead as any other long standing live action art form.

>>18128138
a shitload of those profits were from people subscribing to the network to watch past generations of wrestling

>>18128352
>it's alive and thriving, but it's dead
Shut the fuck up already

>>18128361
The Kathleen Kennedy Model.

>>18128324
why would I want wrestling to be dead? that makes no sense. you are retarded m8.

>>18128147
>Nigger Rock.
Somewhere in Australia, isn't it? In all seriousness the majority of people watching back then didn't even know The Rock was black. Nobody knew who the fuck Rocky Johnson was.

>>18128373
My point is that it's something else now, it's not wrestling, the same way people from previous generations had legitimate claims to the same observation. You'll find out.

>>18128040 (OP)
>if a star wrestler from the 70s or 80s did a promo battle with Steve Austin, the crowd would scream for Austin and boo the old guy
This never happened though so how you know?

>>18128379
Eh, you're wrong..Stone Cold's popularity originated from his feud with The Nation of Domination after his rivalry with Bret Hart concluded. It was a pseudo skin head vs black supremacist racial fantasy that only wrestling and Jerry Springer could tell. That's what got them press along with telling people to suck their dicks.

>>18128385
My point is you are a whining faggot
You would have cried about the Attitude Era if you grew up on 70s shit

>>18128472
this nigga is so mad that his zoomer slop got called out lol

>>18128472
Yeah and I'd be right. Wrestling keeps evolving. Soon enough all of these kayfabe-breaking dramatic acting scenes with endless run-in are going to open matches instead of end them. You'll see, nigger.

>>18128409
Stupid racist faggot wit his revisionist history
Austin got over with his feud with Bret and The Hart Foundation, his promos, coming back from the neck injury and stunning Vince, all of that happened before his Nation feud

>>18128491
>zoomer
Fucking retard with is buzzwords
>>18128497
No, you'd just be an old faggot complaining about shit like you are now. Imagine hating something and yet still watching it, what a fucking cuck

>>18128503
Damn, you're right, I guess an entire four to five months story-arc where he won a championship and got shoot injured and came back doing regular promos hurt never happened.

Am I getting worked or how has nobody mentioned that Hogan came back and got cheered over Rock

OP seems mad everyone thinks he is a dumb faggot.

>>18128534
I don't watch it. Why would you assume that? For being the most cucked and neutered generation you sure like to say faggot a lot. Projection?

>>18128534
are you typing through tears right now lil buddy? take it easy, life is short lmao.

>>18128571
>I don't watch it.
Fuck off

>>18128227
Based Rattlesnake. Don't trust anybody

>>18128040 (OP)
I will say this in all honesty, I don't think you realize how badly Cena would have mogged Austin on the mic. And I say this knowing Austin was great on the mic and much better than Rock.

But when all bets are off, Cena is a machine at stripping you down to your core, making a mockery out of you, elevating you briefly just to knock you down even harder, and putting your remains for laundry display.

Cena is not the GOAT in the ring but he is on the mic.

>>18128040 (OP)
>if Austin came out and did a promo battle with a top guy from the current era, the crowd would cheer for Austin again
LA Knight and CM Punk would turn the crowd against Stone Cold.

>>18130339
Nah, not Punk. He has too much irl baggage to still be taken seriously.
If he brings his A game Knight could stand toe to toe with Austin though. (Nostalgiafags who says otherwise are delusional because Knight LITERALLY does the same thing as Rock and Austin.)

>attacks his boss
>literally hunts the boss and puts a gun to his head on live television
>pours concrete in your car
>tries to kill you with a forklift
>literally tries to run you over with his 4-wheeler
>drinks beer in the ring before kicking you in the nuts
It's so easy to get someone as over as Austin if they just drop the PG shit

>>18128216
>If they pushed Penta as an ICE-killer adjacent character he'd get over.
you never know. they tried to get heat on zeb and his crew or the west texas rednecks hating rap but people cheered anyway

>>18128040 (OP)
Bruno would have smoked this kid on the mic.

>>18128040 (OP)
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Remember when Austin walked out the night after WrestleMania 18 because he didn't like his place on the card?

Remember when Austin skipped the brand split draft in 2002 because he wasn't going to be the first pick?

Remember when he no showed a bunch of Raws in Fall 01 because he had to put kurt angle over for 9/11 reasons and he didn't want to?

Remember when he walked out again because he was seething over lesnar and vince was trying to move on from Austins old ass?

Remember when he didn't want to put The Rock over at WrestleMania 2000 so he got his neck surgery faster than he was supposed to?

Remember when Austin came back in 2003 and got embarrassed by Triple H for being a pretend sheriff. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuNAYdcgRcc&t=41s

>>18130550
Yeah and he was right with all of those
Why should white hot top guy lay down for a brown la knight ?
Not making any sense anon

>>18128138
>because they think they understand how a corporation as huge as WWE was makes money
child sex trafficking?

>>18130550
>vince was trying to move on from Austins old ass?
It's crazy that nowadays, that the majority of the main eventers are older than Austin was back then and a lot of them will stick around for at least 3-4 more years.

>>18128409
Absolute bullshit. You were not watching wrestling then. Quit the LARP. Nobody knew who The Rock was then. He was still known as Rocky Maivia at this point, just transitioning into The Rock.

>>18130550
Remember when nobody gave a shit cuz the dude is still dimes incarnate? lmao

>>18128562
Senile boomers forget a lot of things about wrestling in order to make these tired old good new bad trash threads.

>>18130821
Austin would have probably kept more going for at least 5 more years as a full time in ring competitor if his neck and spine wasn't so utterly fucked up by WM19, remember that he's about the same age as Undertaker and Shawn Michaels, and those guys retired WAYYYYY later

>>18128040 (OP)
Austin has been a parody of himself as early as mid 1998. His promos were all catchpraises and no substance. He’d get destroyed in an actual promo battle.

>>18131190
>He’d get destroyed in an actual promo battle.
Who exactly were these promo warriors?

>>18128040 (OP)
You are correct.
The way i think about this is, you take a top guy from one era and put them in different eras and think about if they could be a top guy, Austin with the Stone Cold gimmick would be a top guy in any era.
But you take some today's 'top guys' like punk and put him in any other era and he would be a fucking mid card comedy jobber tops.

>>18130488
El Grande Americano should be calling ICE on all the luchadores.
>I'm all for immigration, but they have to come the RIGHT way: LEGALLY
but they can't risk him becoming a babyface.

>>18131315
Miz if he was allowed to shoot

austin's weakness in a promo is too cruel to actually bring up
>you had to sit on the sidelines as a fake wrestler while guys 10 years older than you had comebacks, watch linda machmon take bumps you couldn't, because you were spooked you'd end up paralyzed in a hospital bed
it's like the miz accidentally shooting on Daniel bryan that time, it's just sad.

>>18131954
Austin retired 3 years before the Miz was there. You're talking shit.

>>18128138
lol it's not the zoomers squealing "record profits"

>>18131951
But he's also a luchador

>>18128040 (OP)
And that's the problem. They weren't giving Sammartino tv time in 1998. It'd rightly seen as ridiculous, but look where we are in WWE now. kek.

>>18128361
and also from massive live show contracts with the Saudis who requested them to book Randy Savage and Yokozuna in 2018

>>18130335
No he's not