>“This is the same thing that happened with Malakai. This is the same thing that happened with Rusev. It is now happening with The Hurt Syndicate. They don’t want to come to AEW and do jobs. They just want to come in, destroy everybody and hope that someday they go back”
>>18164826 (OP)Also the same as Sasha but they won’t admit that until she squashes Trani clean at their biggest show
>Bobby Lashley and Shelton should be losing to the Young Bucks
wew
>>18164826 (OP)Why shouldn’t they do that?
mvp pretty thoroughly burned his bridge with hunner, so he thinks shelton and bobbo want another shot in the e?
>>18164862You know he’s not their shoot manager right?
>>18164842It is weird how them and Sapp have been running damage control for Sasha. Why?
Most promoters are pussies
If somebody refuses to job, you punish them or kick them out making clear and loud why.
>>18164826 (OP)Are they really facing speedball and Kevin "Who" Knight at All In? And MJF is just in the casino bullshit making his angle with the hurt syndicate meaningless... What a fucking fumble.
>>18164872They've reported Sasha has not refused to lose, unlike Lashley, whose match with Swerve was memory-holed
>>18164826 (OP)In what universe does Hurt Syndicate jobbing for indie shitters make any sense.
>>18164826 (OP)Hurt Syndicate should be destroying Death Riders and Bobby should be challenging at Texas.
>>18164872because they're all on the aew payroll
>>18164878>If somebody refuses to job, you punish them or kick them out making clear and loud why.No promoter has done this
>>18164826 (OP)I really hope that's not true. I've been a fan of MVP and Lashley since TNA invented the idea of booking Lashley as an unstoppable monster, making MVP be his mouthpiece, and building a dominant trio.
If it is true, it would explain why TK has been a lot more selective with who he hires from WWE lately. Let some of those future endeavors go to NWA, TNA, MLW, or overseas, expand their crafts, and maybe learn some humility.
>>18164887The universe that Tony's homeland, planet retard, is in. Imagine Speedball pinning Lashley kek Tony is definitely retarded enough to do it
These two clowns bryan and dave do so much damage to aew its unreal.
Like the hurt syndicate is suppose to look tough they are building teams. Like they look like legit bad asses. I don't get why tony doesn't see how much daave hurts aew.
>still crying about Malakai when he got his butt slimed and his whole group spent 80% of the time jobbing
>>18164913>planet retardYour home planet, apparently. The complaint Dave has been making is that Tony is obviously not having them go over, so it only hurts them to book them against The Hurt Syndicate
>>18164916>they are building teams they're making the teams they have look like geeks.
Are there any credible teams that these guys can look good losing to? Maybe Brody and cucky? Takeshita or Kyle? But they’re going for singles stuff probably.
>>18164928Jetspeed is a retarded thrown together tag team that would never get over even if they went on a 50 match win streak
>>18164928How? Can teams not have advertisity
There's only two teams edge and chirstian or swerve and osprey.
Why anyone thinks speed ball is ready to win tag team gold dave get his poor ideas from aew.
>>18164872I would imagine that as of right now it’s true that she hasn’t refused to job because Tony hasn’t asked her to. Then if he gets any ideas about Trani winning at small in, Sasha and her personal writer will argue that it makes more sense for Sasha to win to complete the belt collector gimmick. And then once she has the belt, any ideas that Tony has for title programs will be shot down unless it’s something that she’ll clearly win. I mean, she’s pretty much beaten everyone with a shred of credibility in that division already, right? So once she’s an undefeated world champion, why would it make sense for her to job to them down the road?
>>18164883>Are they really facing speedball and Kevin "Who" Knight at All In?Speedball was a big get from TNA and one of their most popular wrestlers during his tenure. Kevin Knight is ridiculously good in-ring and is a shared talent with NJPW.
Are they going to job to Hurt Syndicate at the PPV? Absolutely but they're also pushed and in AEW's spotlight each week.
>>18164883The best part is that this whole squirt business angle only makes sense if it leads to a Lashley/MJF feud. And good luck convincing lashley to job to a Jewish midget
>>18164928They shouldnt go over end of unless they are doing a come from behind underdog story like Hogan did with that junky in WCW.
>>18164826 (OP)Why does this company have SO many issues with wrestlers refusing to job or do angles? And why is nothing ever done about it...?
>>18164896>because they're all on the aew payrollDid you just start watching wrestling? You must not remember when Dave was dickriding Black and Gold NXT so hard it was embarrassing.
>>18164958>There's only two teams edge and chirstian or swerve and osprey.Yes, they've been complaining about how the whole division has been booked for months
>Why anyone thinks speed ball is ready to win tag team gold dave get his poor ideas from aew.You faggots are doing the WHY DO YOU HATE WAFFLES meme
THEY ARE NOT SAYING THEY SHOULD WIN they are pointing out it's questionable to have two new guys that had gotten good responses being put in a no-win situation here, just like the Outrunners
>>18164965>spotlight each weekThey’re getting KWAB’d each week. This is typical of the aewtist mindset. If Tony puts someone on tv for four straight weeks then the fans start blabbering about star making pushes and runs of a lifetime.
>>18164975A wrestling company that signs guys and guys just refuse wtf how can you even build stars
I rather have britt and may
>>18164971Cage is injured
Rush jobs
Kommander is a ROH shitter
Outrunners are jobbing comedy geeks
>>18164965Sorry but putting a genderless midget and a nobody against one of the only over acts on the show on the biggest show of the year is retarded and you know it
>>18164975>why?Hiring too many WWE-brained shitters
>And why is nothing ever done about it...?He iced several people for what, a whole year? You can cry that's not what he should od, it's not doing "nothing"
>>18164975Tony has no leverage because he’s petrified of cutting someone just for them to jump ship to WWE. So if you refuse to job, the absolute worst case scenario is that you get free paychecks to sit at home for the rest of your deal.
>>18164946>Are there any credible teams that these guys can look good losing to?The Golden Lovers, Christian Cage and Cope (if they ever pull the trigger there), Takeshita and Okada are both in the same stable.
>>18164988Ive never liked Miro and I fully believe he is a shoot cuckold but he was right to refuse to job after he ate a pin against Sammy Gayvera.
>>18165015Kenny and Ibushi are too busted to go over healthy giga niggas
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>>18165009It's so easy to manipulate Shahid Khan's money out of Tony. Even CTE carnies are doing It with ease.
>>18164826 (OP)I don't think they want to go back to WWE, but it's definitely an obvious case of Tony being a little bitch and letting everyone Hogan their own booking.
>>18164975Have you look at the people in charge? they are wimps that will not take a stand, can you imagine Tony Khan yelling at Bobby Lashley? lmao
>>18164966>good luck convincing lashley to job to a Jewish midgetBy all indications, Lashley is a good employee who has jobbed in his career when asked. I don't watch WWE, so I don't know about his run there but in TNA, he had no problem putting over EC3, Alberto El Patron, Matt fucking Sydal (lol), etc.
>>18165037that guy's tattoos are the most cringe inducing shit I've seen. At least Mr Cool Ice is funny as fuck. This is just some loser larping satanist
>>18164994Okay now when private party and Gunn club they are gone to nxt
>>18165050I know but he’s big so he’s automatically a good match for the HS
>>18165021Miro is a 40 year old, failed ex-WWE midcarder.
He's in no place to refuse to do jobs.
>>18165080WWE midcarders are infinitely more famous and much more successful pro wrestlers than aew main eventers
>>18165049Shelton has jobbed quite a bit. Lashley inexplicably went over Swerve and everyone has kind of forgotten since
>>18165080Tiny didnt see it that way. He only jobbed him out to Sammy and Daniels. maybe midjf too i dont rember
>>18164980>If Tony puts someone on tv for four straight weeks then the fans start blabbering about star making pushes and runs of a lifetime.I'm old. I remember WCW suddenly giving month long pushes to jobbers (Prince Iaukea) before feeding them to the champion (Jericho) then relegating them back to jobber status.
This isn't that. I'll be the first to admit I'm wrong if Speedball and Knight get relegated to jobber status after this feud. I think TK's plan is to keep Hurt Syndicate as champs for a long time, gradually upping the quality of challengers, until something special (Golden Lovers or Christian and Copeland reunited) finally end their reign of terror.
>>18165089Nah, nobody knows who Miro/Rusev is and you're far from in touch with the outside world
>>18165104When he says "fans" he means one twitter account that is his obsession because he's a turbosmark consolewarrior dipshit
>>18165104>old ass tag team holding the strap hostage and will only drop it to another old ass tag teamBased anon shitting on Tiny Cunts booking
Buddy never cries about jobbing. :)
>>18165107rusev is far far far better known than ospreay, okada, omega, hangman or swerve.
>>18165006>He iced several people for what, a whole year? You can cry that's not what he should od, it's not doing "nothing"I agree and I'm glad he does or he'd have more instances of
>Hey uhhhh Andrade. . . I'm uhhhhh in charge now so why don't you uhhhhh start a fight backstage, get fired and come on back.>Si, Jefe Narizota
>>18165080>He's in no place to refuse to do jobs.Agreed.
Also, that whole Redeemer gimmick was based and I liked the story about Fuego figuring out his neck was his weakness.
>>18165126Fine. I could see Swerve and Ospreay unseating them.
Better?
>>18164872>Why?Because they're not actual journalists. They're paid off PR mouthpieces. If AEW wants them to push a narrative they will. Just like all the times SRS has publicly come out entirely unprompted to say that Mercedes doesn't have creative control. And that she's totally open to losing matches only she hasn't been asked to yet. Which in that case how would they know she's open to it? All of that in spite of Mercedes saying herself she does have creative control and now Deonna Purrazzo saying she does as well
>>18164872Because they're trying to get fans behind her so when she inevitably buries Toni Storm as well it won't be a complete shitshow and their own fans won't turn on the product. They even had Toni cut a promo where not even kidding she essentially said she would be happy to lose her belt to Mercedes. It's the most transparent bullshit I've maybe ever seen at trying to get ahead of something and controlling the discourse around it. The saddest part is it's working
>>18165201No it’s not aew fans will start chanting Mercedes hogan if it happens and tony khan also risks losing Toni storm to wwe which now it seems like Mercedes is a plant.
>>18165175Urkel and Bruvspreay isnt a tag team. Allah forgive me for making this comparison but that is like calling Rock and Sock Connection a proper tag team.
>>18165091Lashley going over was a good call because it made him feel legit and Swerve could take a loss
>>18165140millions of people watch rusev in WWE and 500k people watch the aew guys
>>18165140The dinkiest midcard comedy jobber in WWE is more well known than AEW's top draws. Sorry reality has broken your brain.
>>18165220>No it’s not aew fans will start chanting Mercedes hogan if it happensI really, really, really hope you're right. I just don't see it happening. There may be some who will. But there's such a large portion of their fans who are so indoctrinated to the company that no matter what they do they'll lap it up. It's the difference between actual AEW fans and full on AEWtists. The same way edrones exist beyond just WWE fans
>>18165229Take your waifufag bullshit to one of your containment threads.
>>18164902CMLL does it ALL the time
>>18165221>but that is like calling Rock and Sock Connection a proper tag team.Didn't they win the WWF tag team belts like 3 times though?
"Improper" tag teams have won tag team gold in AEW too.
>Hangman and Omega>Starks and Big Bill>Darby and Sting
>>18165239>waifuYou're the one simping for Horsedes Poneigh here bud. Don't forget to send her your monthly $100 while you're at it
>>18165231I literally couldn't tell you who any current champions in WWE are right now. It's not my thing. If it's yours, more power to you but I can guarantee I'm not the only fan who likes wrestling but dislikes WWE to the point of not paying it any attention.
>>18165311Congrats? No one's asking you to watch anything you don't like. But also just because you don't know something personally doesn't mean the world gives a shit or that everyone else is the same
>>18165311you can just tell us you're a fat virgin straight up, anon. it'll save you time.
>>18165301You are mentally ill and need serious medical help. I dont give a shit about womens wrestling.
>>18165311>I don't care so much that I went into this thread about WWE, posted and replied to people in it, made sure to let them know I don't watch it, and then posted this picture I have saved to my computer specifically about how much I totally don't care about WWEBrother if you were jerking yourself off anyone you wouldn't be able to post it on /pw/
>>18165231explain why Slammiversary, loaded with WWE midcard jobbers, isn't drawing 1/4 of ALL IN's attendance
>>18165361Because it doesn’t have WWE
written if they wrote tna wwe presents
Then the zombie pigs would run to buy tickets
The name wwe Sells
>>18165311pork with wheelies you watch more wwe content than anyone here lmao, I bet you even know who the speed champion is
>>18165361>Tickets DistributedLook at the adjective, mark!
>>18165361explain why aew can't beat WWE's wrestling school
>>18165371Ah damn. I wrote anyone instead of any more accidentally. I guess that entirely negates my entire point
>>18165345>that I went into this thread about WWEI was not aware that The Hurt Syndicate was still employed by the Sloppy Shop.
>>18165404The thread is literally about guys leaving WWE, going to AEW, wanting to go over everyone, and then wanting to go back to WWE. It seems you also aren't aware of what reading comprehension is
>>18165404As far as I know, they're still with aew aka THE slop shop
>>18165400Because you pigs don’t understand the difference between free cable and subscription models
Two you don’t understand what streaming is and how aew is watched on two different networks at the same
Time.
And again if warner doesn’t like it in 2027 you can get a victory lap or go back to being depressed for aew existing
>>18165521>free cable and subscription modelshuh so why does TBS beat the CW in literally every other timeslot?
>maxcopekek aew gets like 20k viewers on Max
>>18165521The backfire on your tranny delusion is going to be insane.
>>18165536the gall of a /pw/ pig calling anyone else delusional
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>>18165535Aew gets 20k on max lmao
Good one edrone also
Now edrone critical think
And ask yourself why two sections exists
>>18165536If aew dies I go on with my life nothing changes had fun and yes it will be tony khans fault for hiring Jeff jarrett
>>18165558yeah but why does cable get so many more viewers? I thought that you said that the opposite was happening
>>18164826 (OP)they're bigger than everybody by a lot, they shouldn't be losing to mike bailey lmao
>>18164872I think its because shes supposed to be the female star whereas hurt syndicate are 50-year old midcarders
Their main motive is still to shill AEW so applying the same criticism to someone who is in a more prominent position is more detrimental to the company as a whole
>>18165614Listen edrone
I have a lemon stand I charge for a 1 lemon how many customers do I get
You have a lemon stand you don’t charge for customers your lemons are free how many customers you get?
Aew is on warner it’s subscription you call your cable company and go hey I need to add that package
Your useless show nxt which is garbage is free meaning those men in jails probably give you a rating boost when Shawn books his horned out eye candy matches.
>>18165664saar but why does TBS outdraw the CW in every other timeslot?
>>18165550I really hope AEW doesn't go out of business not just because I enjoy the hell out of it but also for driving Edrones into a frothing seethe.
>>18164826 (OP)Tonys signing less and less WWE cast offs because of this, theyre all just fucking over future releases from WWE as well as themselves. None from the last batch of WWE releases even got signed
>>18165670Saar I just answered your question you lack critical thinking lol carry on
Are they implying that Lashley should be losing to fucking Speedball?
>>18165694Then maybe aew goes back to building Indy talent atleast they want to be there and now it’s evident Mariah may left because of Mercedes
Is there even a pro in signing x wwe talent? I feel aews strength is in those indy talents but the x wwe star gives them buzz. What’s Tony khan and aew going to do lol
>>18165564The only reason you can confidently say this is because you dont care about AEW and you just waste your life spamming frog threads on all of 4chan.
Congrats fatass your parents must be so proud.
>>18165733There is something going on backstage in aew that’s an gaurantee now Mariah, Ricky, Ethan, penta , malakai, and miro
All didn’t even thank aew after deparature the only wrestler who did was Andrade. It’s like they hate aew and this is telling me aews backstage politics are back
>>18164975because tony wants to be their friend not their boss
>>18165734Lol wtf
Say what Jeff Jarrett has been a. Horrible hiring. He is selfish and couldn’t even show leadership and tame cm punk when it was needed
>>18165723you didn't answer that question.
>>18164902>>18164878that mostly applies for the midcarders, all of the top guys in every single promotion ever have varying levels of creative control they can use to influence their booking
>>18165694>None from the last batch of WWE releases even got signedTony generally prioritizes the wrestlers from WWE that have a background in other companies as well. He's a huge mark for Chikara and loves to see that on a WWE release's resume.
AEW's backstage culture sounds like hell to deal with, its like WCW all over again where wrestlers constantly wrangle with the booking, except this also extends to the midcarders
say what you want about WWE, but they wont tolerate this shit, especially not in Vince's time with a few exceptions of the most toppy top guys, anyone there who spergs out of their booking will be buried and shown the door
>>18165733>Is there even a pro in signing x wwe talent?Occasional name recognition. If I were AEW, I certainly wouldn't sign a wrestler that ONLY had experience in WWE as someone who only knows that that style alone probably couldn't keep up with the better westlers on AEW's roster without getting carried a lot in matches.
>>18164826 (OP)Because the AEW faces are dweebs. If the top faces were guys like Wardlow and Big Bill, they'd have less of a problem.
>>18164826 (OP)The only people who will ever be in AEW are
>1. Indieshitters who would never ever make it anywhere else like the Bucks or Omega>2. Legit marks like Ospreay or Danielson who just want to have bangerinos and don't care if 3/4ths or the arena is tarped off as long as Meltzer jerks off to it>3. People working Tony like the money mark that he is who only are there because they want to go back to WWE, or got paid a shitload of money like Okada or Jericho.Tony is too incompetent to actually run a business, so thats all the federation will ever be.
>>18165852This, there’s no guys positioned to beat them who realistically should
>>18165907>who would never ever make it anywhere else like the Bucks or Omegasee
>>18165671 and stop being so salty. There's a lot of different flavors out there.
>>18165852i could buy Archer and Cage beating them but Cage is made of glass
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>>18164826 (OP)Ok so judging by what Bryan and Dave have said by talents not wanting to lose, DO THEY OR DONT THEY HAVE CREATIVE CONTROL????
>that doesn't work for me brother
- about half of the AEW roster
>>18165970The Klique openly brag about Shawn cursing out Vince and him not doing a fucking thing kek
>>18165983Brody is a filthly shitlib with a god awfully fat physique so big fat no and Buddy is too vanilla to ever be a serious contender
>>18164826 (OP)Say what you want about Billy Corgan, but when he books a WWE guy, he makes them lose just because he thinks it's funny.
>>18166030You know what wwe guy always loses?
Buddy.
>>18166030>Say what you want about Billy Corgan, but when he books a WWE guy, he makes them lose just because he thinks it's funny.I've said it before and I'll say it again.
Billy was always based.
>>18165220>Mercedes is a plant.Hmm. She just referenced Brawl Out this week
>>18165220AEW fans are ultimately bootlickers that wouldn't dare hijack a show
>>18165983Buddy is never wrestling again bro
>>18164826 (OP)If they cared about AEW, they would complain about booking Shelton and Lashley to lose or struggle against those dimeless skinny retards.
I just listened to Bret Hart tell the story about Vince telling him he's going to champion for years, Hogan coming back, taking the belt from Bret, Vince telling Bret he's going to beat Hogan with the sharpshooter at SummerSlam, film promo shots for the match, then Hogan telling Vince Bret's not in his league and he won't put him over. Then when Bret confronted Hogan about it, he went to Vince and they concocted a story about how it was never going to be a title match etc.
Point is, guys refusing to job has been a thing in wrestling for 100 years, and there's a million stories like that in WWE and WCW and everywhere else.
All that said, I don't think The Hurt Syndicate should be jobbing yet? They're over, and no other tag team is credible enough to beat them besides Ospreay and Swerve.
I agree that Jet Speed has been damaged by them, but that's more because of the absolutely retarded booking than THS refusing to lose. When they came out on Dynamite and took THS out, hit some dives, looked cool etc. I was like cool, they're building this match pretty well. Then THS went and beat their ass. Then they beat their asses again. Then they beat their asses AGAIN.
What type of crack was Based Tonedog doing when he came up with that?
>>18164961this, she should never lose or be in a position where she seems weak or inferior. Tony should also make more belts for her to win
I don't think Bobby and Shelton are refusing to job. I think the tag division is just that fucked at this point and Tony isn't sure who to have them drop to. Golden Lovers could be credible enough but then you have to have Kenny lose to Okada and pray neither his health or Ibushi's health blows up before the PPV match.
>>18164826 (OP)Why come Tony won't job FTR to The Hurt Syndicate?
>>18167598Tony's special boys get segregated from the titles when someone goes on a run
>>18165089You people always talk that good shit until niggas are number four at the Royal Rumble.
>>18164826 (OP)Meltzer and Alvarez have been running a weird smear campaign on them for months. Why the fuck should Bobby Lashley or Shelton Benjamin sell for people like Mike Bailey?
>>18167284STOP FORGETTING THE HOUNDS
Kevin Knight pinned Shelton today so this whole thread is basically worthless
>>18164872>It is weird how them and Sapp have been running damage control for Sasha.Meltzer was the one pissed off before anyone else because he wanted Harley to beat her
>>18164965>Speedball was a big get from TNA and one of their most popular wrestlers during his tenurehe's also like 5'4 and looks like a literal kid with a goofy costume next to lashley and shelton.
>>18164846Buck on buck violence is truly the buck community's greatest untold tragedy.
>>18164966People like Lashley have jobbed to Jew midgets before. It's a generational thing for them.
to be fair who the fuck is going to say no to bobby lashley when he says he doesn't want to job lol
>>18164846Where did they say that, retard?
>>18164826 (OP)The problem is they also won't sell for guys either
>>18164826 (OP)hurt syndicate shouldn't fucking be jobbing to anybody on the roster at all
you should have someone like powerhouse hobbs or whoever to at least be competitive with lashley in the ring but fuck if you think lashley is gonna be pin me pay me for the vanilla midgets you have all over that promotion, fuck you
>>18167598FTR always seems to disappear when it’s time for them to feud with the tag champs but not win the titles
>>18164826 (OP)Everybody wants to be the next Cody lol. Except Cody probably knew from his dad where the skeletons are hidden.
>>18164942Because they are lmao. Cornette said this would happen, how the fuck do you book the jobber geeks in AEW to look like real competitors against someone like Lashley? Who realistically on that roster even looks like they can hurt him?
>>18164975Nobody respects Khan and fully believe they can walk all over him.
>>18164862Bobby said he was hoping to retire in WWE and was sad when he wasn't given another contract
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>>18175987He’s going back for sure . It’s why he doesn’t say anything negative about them, he refuses to lose to fucking literal who’s and Shelton will be the one eating the pin.
Good for Bobby, got the bag and still retires in wwe . If you’re smart you know that Tony isn’t going to push anyone in the main event but his favorite toys . Bobby isn’t one of them.
>>18164826 (OP)Yeah, I already saw this on Squarecircle, ya slowpoke. All of us EliteTITANs debunked this horseshit from Alvarez. We made of him all of that thread. We had a good laugh mocking him. Yeah. Shelton loses a bunch. So, yeah. Alvarez should shut the fuck up.
>>18176032You E-piggiEs are so fucking pathetic. You're always beggin for OUR toys...
Oi, piggiE bitch. You listen to here and you listen good. You oinkies are NEVER EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVER getting OUR Big Bobbo back. Why don't ya cry about it ya piggiE bitch.
>>18167663Considering how weirdly obsessive Dave has been about this I'm assuming they were supposed to job to the Bucks and immediately shot it down in a "lmao fuck those midgets" way which has Dave seething
this is all cm punk's fault, leaking shit to dave meltzer about what's going on inside aew
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>>18176064titwheels having a melty oh no
>>18176032>He’s going back for surehe was fired during roster cuts like a pile of garbage, he's not going back, because it's not up to him
>>18176164There's no need to leak shit when the owners are meltzer subscribers and friends with him
>>18164846Where did they say that ?
>>18164826 (OP)Imagine being Malakai and thinking you deserve to go over anyone.
Malakai should be jobbing to refs and commentators.
Malakai should be laying on his back for fans out of the audience, who pay an extra $100 at a house show.
>>18178415Same guy who got slimed btw. Kys Dave.