Thread 18170706

WWE will be releasing WWE: Unreal, which is a 10-episode series that will delve deep into the creative process of the company and how they write storylines. Jake Roberts recently criticized the show for damaging the business but now Ryback has come to the show’s defense.

The Big Guy took to Twitter and said he believes WWE: Unreal is one of the best things to happen to wrestling and wrestlers. He described wrestling as physical acting and called it the hardest job in the world. Everyone plays a role and it takes the whole roster to make it work.

Ryback said there are no real winners or losers, and he thinks it is time for fans and wrestling media to stop the hate and see it for what it truly is. He compared it to movies where actors are given roles, sometimes laid out in detail and other times decided week by week, and no one criticizes them for playing a bad guy or having small parts. It takes every person involved to bring the show together, and wrestling is ultimately one huge production.

>“I truly believe WWE: Unreal is one of the best things for wrestling and wrestlers. This is physical acting, the hardest thing in the world. We play roles and it takes all of us. No one really wins or loses. It’s time fans and dirt sheets stop the hate and understand what this is. It’s no different than movies, you’re given a role, and depending on your contract, sometimes you know exactly what it is, other times it’s week to week. No one shames actors for playing a bad guy or a small part. It takes everyone. Wrestling is one giant production.”

This comes after Jake Roberts slammed WWE: Unreal for damaging the business as he stated that no amount of money will ever warrant the harm it will end up doing to the industry.

>“I think it’s foolish. I don’t think that product will ever warrant enough money being made for the damage that it’ll do. So that’s just my own thoughts.”

https://www.ringsidenews.com/ryback-defends-wwe-unreal-jake-roberts-claims-it-will-harm-business/

>>18170706 (OP)
Jake we all know it’s scripted already

I don't see how this show is different from the 1236 behind-the-scenes documentaries that have been made over the past 20+ years

>>18170706 (OP)
The snake is right. Peeling back the curtain too much is not a good idea. It's already been peeled back far too much as is. However, I don't think it will hurt the business as a whole. I think it will more likely just hurt WWE by making the booking even more predictable.

>>18170716
Still, there's a loss of mystique. It's the reason wrestling is dead.

Why people so upset about this when it's gonna be a worked behind the scenes

>>18170843
Mystique about what? Everyone knows there was a giant writers room where Vince would pick on pencil neck dweebs. And then at the last minute he’d change the lines they wrote.
Heyman already revealed they’d write out the arching storylines from wrestlemania to wrestlemania, an entire years worth, like 15 years ago. You make the goal and you fill in the blanks week to week.
Patrice O’Neal used to talk about writing for WWE on the radio for fucks sake.
Mr Robert’s is getting upset over nothing. There is no mystique or allure to nerds at a table scripting a promo for midget jobber #54 to recite on SMACKDOWN. This isn’t the old days where you’d have a booking committee and the agents would pitch ideas to Dusty Rhodes.

WWE is NOT wrestling, is acting or some shit

>>18170873
here's the thing, we hear all these rumors and reports but we never really know what's true and what's not. So, there's still a little bit of mystery to it. If they just blow the lid off and reveal everything, that goes out the window.

>>18170828
Of course it's not a good idea but Jake and really no one from AEW is in a position to talk.
Jake was in fucking Beyond the Mat. AEW did AEW All Access

>>18170873
>>18170889
I do think hearing some nerd writer reciting the same promo as Drew McIntyre or whoever word for word would be a bit illusion breaking. Even today

>>18170873
Why don't all the wrestlers shout out their calls during the match, when we know they make calls?

>>18170911
I honestly wasn't aware of that, but if those documentaries exposed the business then I would agree that was a bad idea too. I don't think anyone should be trying to kill the last tiny remnants of kayfabe, we need to keep those.

>>18170873
>Patrice O’Neal used to talk about writing for WWE on the radio for fucks sake.
ten minutes of "i worked for stephanie who fired and vince was crazy" followed by cumia doing his vince impression for 40 minutes is hardly some giant behind the scenes expose dude.

>>18170921
Kayfabe was basically dead by the time Beyond the Mat came out but Beyond the Mat nuked what was left of it from orbit.
Jake is full of shit. And no, this is not me defending this show, I hate the idea of this show and HHH is a cocksucker for doing, I'm pointing out that no one's hands are clean and Jake of all people shouldn't be crying about kayfabe, the fucking crackhead.

>>18170926
Put your fucking turban on DAMN IT

>>18170947
Fair point, but at least Jake turned his crack addiction/recovery into a good side story lol.

It's a terrible idea because it wont be honest. Itll show shit like the Young Cucks basically sucking each others cocks and going on about how great shit is.

Imagine if the show was honest and showed what a massive entitled prick shawn Michaels was. Showing the tantrum he had over the match with the British Bulldog were he refused to go out and lose the intercontinental championship. Showing backstage drama over stories hes given.

Imagine showing bret hart and the crap during the stone cold feud where he had arguments backstage practically every week.

The show is only going to show the most bland generic wwe guys being told to do boring story A followed by B and them saying 'how many flips you want me to do?'

>>18170706 (OP)
>called it the hardest job in the world
llllllol

>>18170873
This why wrestling can't attract new fans. Imagine you as a kid now or when you were a kid. Wrestling is like today. Would you have still gotten into it, or would you be thevkid saying it's fake? Part if the appeal was defending wrestling cause you believed.

>>18171019
Good reason to at least check out RAF. It's the only hope of ever bringing kayfabe back.

>>18171019
its kind of cool how, especially here and reddit, smarks have gone from 'i want to know more about this thing i like so i can like it even more!' to 'i want to know more about this thing i dont like so i can hate it even more'

>>18170716
It's called suspension of disbelief, retard. We all know movies and games are fake too, we don't need someone to tell us it is in the middle of it.

>>18171115
>ITS STILL REAL TO ME SAAAR!
Really Sanjay?

>>18170706 (OP)
Kek gotta love The Big Guy
Ya just gotta!

>>18170706 (OP)
As if this show and the footage it'll show won't be as worked as the wrestling itself

>>18171115
Breaking kayfabe in the middle of a show can be grating, but that's usually not done and rarely the plan.
But it's alright to talk about the production of a wrestling show, why not? No movie producer is trying to pretend the next Star Wars is based on real events and goes "ohhh I'm so glad we had a camera in the next universe over that just so happened to film all the war ohhh I wonder what will happen next".

>>18170985
Constantly moving every week and can get life threatening injury anytime.
Not most but it is hard.

>>18172105
Tell that to the saudi constructions workers who die every single day cause their retarded government had a plan of a city thats impossible to achieve kek

>>18172493
No one cares about pajeets plummeting to their deaths

>>18172527
Doesnt matter. They have harder jobs.
If you disagree you're just wrong

>>18170882
Wrestling was ALWAYS a Act.
Shakesperian to say at least

And anyone claiming that it will kayfabe, is nothing but a bunch of carnies who deserves to be assfucked by the carnival's lion

Ryback is never right, guy has the taste palette of an octogenarian .

>>18173189
so says the fat fuck with a batista fig shoved up his ass

>>18170706 (OP)
Is the show going to be a work?

>>18170706 (OP)
I read this as
>Ryback Defends WWE:
>Unreal, After Jake Roberts Claims It Will Harm The Business

>>18172772
American wrestling is less about wrestling every passing day.

Just endless promos and "long term booking" and prima-donnas and social media and shit

People defending the destruction of the last shred of mystery helping to keep their fav modern shitters alive. Even most of the so called Old School boomers who constanrly cry about kayfabe, would rather shit on AEW, NWA, TNA fr flips, than collectively crap on WWE for killing wrestling. This tribalistic faggotry is worse than meth.

>>18170980
This. That's one of the worst parts of it. They'll work people into thinking it's a shoot, even though it won't be, but will still do the same damage as if it was, anyway.

>>18170947
>Beyond the Mat
Paul Levesque
>WWE Unreal
Paul Levesque
>Curtain call
Paul Levesque

Always in the middle of the bullshit.

>>18175095
Paul "The Snake" Levesque

>>18170911
At least Jake was famously upset with BTM, and not just because of the way he was portrayed. Potentially doing further harm because harm was already done doesn't make it better.

>>18175095
Don't forget Montreal. He was a key player in that and it exposed the business harder than anything

>>18170706 (OP)
they won't hire you, Rybitch.

>>18175470
If you aren't some smark nerd Montreal looks like a work

>>18175509
And no one til this day claims if it was or not

>>18170706 (OP)
Based

>>18175509
It probably was, but the fallout from that event exposed the business to a lot of marks that were still none the wiser and frankly, it made wrestling look more carny than it already did. Gonna shout out Bret going to the fucking papers and exposing the business more than anyone involved.

kek

>>18170706 (OP)
based

wwe doesnt get enough shit for exposing the business. ppl will criticize everyone else for exposing the business but it’s all a symptom of them coming out and calling it fake in the 90’s. it’s been all downhill from there

>>18178178
Literally every smark on the planet criticizes WWE for that. People point out curtain call, Bret shoot interviews, and the Attitude Era intro vignette as the holy trio of breaking kayfabe

>>18170706 (OP)
While jake is right only smarks and british ytbers will be affected,5 normies that watch wont care and will forget in a week
Rychad should wear a hyperrealistic wig in public so he can be like bigfoot of wrestling