We might actually be witnessing the death of WWE. Barely anyone is watching this shit on Netflix

>>18187054 (OP)
Reminder that they are getting like 2 million global viewers. Dynamite, NXT, and Smackdown may unironically be beating Raw every week

>>18187054 (OP)
2.5 million people watched it live+same day
That's 5 Dynamites. If that is "barely anyone", then I guess AEW is only watched by Tony and some arab clan members?

Only 2 million more than dynamite, it's over

>>18187054 (OP)
Doesn't Seff always kill ratings? Like I genuinely don't understand why booking isn't based purely on who actually draws viewers.

GRIM

>>18187064
In the US yes, very much within metric reason

>>18187054 (OP)
the funniest part was WWE hoping netflix india would give them a boost in global viewers. turns out all the pajeets just watch WWE via social media clips

>>18187054 (OP)
Tick-tock, You about to stop livin'
Tick-tock, I want you to remember me
Tick-tock, but the day don't have no memory
I'm comin'!
Nobody could stop me, nobody could hold me
Nobody control me
I'm comin'!
I'm here to do my thing, I'm here to bring the pain
I'm never ever gon' change!
I'm comin'!

>meltzer

>>18187054 (OP)
The Pendulum is real AEW is on the rise

>>18187054 (OP)
>center raw around seff
>ratings crater
U DA MAN SEFF!!

>>18187072
Afraid so

The Bitch with Tits is not having a good time

the pendulum is now swinging to the juggalos

https://wrestlenomics.com/tv-ratings/2025/wwe-raw-jun-30-on-netflix-2500000-global-views-tv-ratings-analysis/

Damn so Raw is still doing 1.5 million viewers live in the USA, looks like the AEWtist bad week is only getting worse

>>18187315
Floppy tits is squealin

another massive backfire after 48 hours of All In derangement

>>18187430
that nigga spent the entire July 4th weekend necro bumping his empty ratings threads lol just him talking to himself

>>18187072
/thread

DAVE SAYS
HE'S DONE WITH TOKYO
TREATS IT LIKE A D SHOW
HE SAYS
THE TELEVISION... DEAL
DIDN'T GO DOWN CAUSE VIEWERSHIP'S AT AN ALL TIME LOW

We witnessing the decline of the once great WWE

raw in the mud

The pendulum............... has swung

The pendulum has swung last night

>>18187072
That’s worldwide. In the US, where it matters, raw is doing like 200k live viewers. AEW is unironically raping Raw, even without the 500k on Max

>>18187072
>Raw literally has 2 million more viewers than Dynamite
kek why so uppity lil 'cord bros?

>>18187072
>>18187315
>>18187373
>>18187430
>>18187628
The crippled pedo had nothing for this, not a good look.

>>18187686
See
>>18187673

>>18187673
>all speculation by Big Dave
yeah no that's obviously bullshit

>>18187054 (OP)
makes sense. the new gay v JD match was good but the rest of the matches were ass

>>18187299
I hate seff

>>18187673
Cray cray how bitchtits finna have no response to this

>>18187673
I don't watch RAW live so I can skip all the potato and seff shit

>>18187693
>>18187704
>>18187711
>Answers to crippled pedo
Every fucking time lmfao

>>18187693
See
>>18187315

>>18187072
these are wcw nitro numbers, yikes

>>18187072
OH NO NO NO NO ANOTHER BACKFIRE

>>18187072
yup

>>18187727
See>>18187673
You’re looking at like 200k live in the US

>>18187732
See>>18187315

>>18187673
aw sweet new cope just dropped

>>18187693
>>18187723
>>18187732
>>18187743
See>>18187749

>>18187743
Debunked by actual math
>>18187673

>>18187769
Debunked by actual math
>>18187315

>>18187769
>Dave
>actual math
kek

>>18187769
Dave doesn't even know how to read a Google trends chart anon. Your source is a retard. You're dumb but even you could read a Google trends chart

>>18187072
5 whole Dynamites? To match the viewers of one (1) Raw?
lmao aewxirs are so cooked

>>18187054 (OP)
calculating everything = make up numbers?

>>18187054 (OP)
>will have a story up after calculating everything

YAYYY THANK YOU DADDY MELTZ

FINNA CALCULATE

The reign of ZEST must end

>>18187673
pEdrones hated this post

>>18187072
my sources say the 'cord is boiling over this one

Dave critical'd this piggie with a Meltzer Driver.

>>18187797
KWAB

>>18187834
they keep trying and trying with seff and it just aint happening, he is not the guy and never will be

>>18187072
Ya seethe, Piglet. Fraid so

>>18187834
>>18188025
they got confused by dronies going WOAH-OHHH to his song and thought he was over

>>18187072
He keeps trying to refute this but has nothing kek

>>18187308
>>18187664
>WWE got beat by ICP
Definitely KWAB

>>18187054 (OP)
OHNONONO

>>18187072
This got 'em crashing out.

I can't believe that in ~2021 I used to refresh that ratings site where you grab the link and change the date so you get the image before the article is posted. Now I couldn't give a single fuck which show how much viewership it has

I love that wrestling is full of weirdos talking about unknown numbers (tickets distributed based on some algorithm, PPV buys that come from the promotion, ratings estimates from a place that doesn’t release them).

Here’s what you know…audited financials, audited ratings from Nielsen and merch sold (WWE only). The rest is just console war faggotry.

>>18187054 (OP)
dear oh dear oh dear......................

>>18188009
kek what are you talking about? Meltzer completely missed the joke in the most hilariously autistic yet passive aggressive way

>>18187072
another backfire for the gender challenged discord dwellers? fraid so!

>>18187797
Thaz rite

We cookin and we eating bro you guys are starving someone call the UN lmao

>>18187673
It's a Dave quote so I question it like we're in Nuremberg.
Having said that...
TV ratings have been worked for decades.
There's no reason to assume that Netflix isn't working their ratings. I mean all ratings, not just the WWE.
They're a publicly traded company. They have a strong incentive to put themselves over as stronger and more popular than they actually are.
How many people subscribe to only watch old series and movies from the last century? How many watch live?
Only the insiders have those figures, and they're professional stock salesmen. They might as well be wrestling managers, their whole business is cutting promos to draw stock marks into their share house.

>>18187072
2.5 is not even newsworthy, they have been bumping from ~2.5 to 3.5 since the debut on Netflix
This retard is full of crap as usual

Raw will be airing on TikTok by 2028

>>18187054 (OP)
They decided to cater to international audience and they took the people that make them actual money(that arent the saudis) for over 60 plus years. Netflix has killed wwe

>>18187054 (OP)
Fellow fat, retarded, disabled, virgin Edrones... How do we spin this to make it about AEW? I'm literally too disabled to come up with something. I'm typing this with that straw thing in my mouth, it's attached to a computer on my wheelchair.

>>18187054 (OP)
>We might actually be witnessing the death of WWE
Two more weeks

>>18187054 (OP)
They had so much this week I skipped over .
Seth open
Sami promo
New day 2x
If sami didn't get destroyed I would have skipped
Diva match
Becky promo
Penta sneed
Bella

>>18190345

>>18187308
AEW vs. JCW Forbidden Door when?

Never watched AEW, don't care, but Raw on Netflix is a bust. Wrestling (or any weekly show) is just poison for a streaming service. If Raw went to NBC (the regular broadcast channel) every Monday night the ratings would be huge.

>>18187054 (OP)
No sliding!

>>18187072
That part.

Grim

>>18191787
No?

>>18187673

>Netflix releases it's numbers

On the take Dave - I don't believe you. Oh and by the way Dynamite did 36 million people last night on MAX!

>>18187054 (OP)
all WWE has to do is to make actually good angles again, how is this so hard?

>>18187054 (OP)
Liv was the draw all along

>>18187054 (OP)
all WWE has to do is to book good angles again, how is this so hard?

>>18187054 (OP)
How do you have such a large platform and fail this miserably. GRIM

>>18193697
WWE has to collab with Netflix to do a Kinnikuman special for WWE 2k25.

>>18191406
>Raw on Netflix is a bust. Wrestling (or any weekly show) is just poison for a streaming service.

Huh? It's been a huge success for Netflix, always in the top ten as a weekly show, competing with thousands of old and new movies and miniseries. Look at the wrestlenomics link above - for June 30, top 3 in the USA and top 5 worldwide! Netflix now has a live a weekly program they can count on and they took it away from their cable competition. A streaming service that woman would use to watch romance movies is now playing with the big boys in the weekly TV game.

>A streaming service that woman would use to watch romance movies

>>18187054 (OP)
wow bitchtits hated this

>>18188009
Why did Dave refer to himself in the 3rd person in his first sentence?

>>18187054 (OP)
Anon I offer this advice in complete sincerity, turn your life around
If you dedicated 50% of the time you invest in this tonedog fanfiction on working out I can GUARANTEE you will lose weight in a year
Well not all of it but enough to look normal. It doesn't matter you're already 55 you can settle down with a nice woman yet

>>18187054 (OP)
no slidey!

>>18187054 (OP)
Back to Page 1 you go ahahaha

>>18198372
and again

>>18187054 (OP)
>2.5 Million is lowest ever!!!
>AEW does 580,000, That is AMAZING!!!

I hope Dave chokes to death

Very alarming

>>18187079
Its cuz they don't respect you and know there's enough people like "Trev!" who are so deep in it that they spend their whole day doing pr to make their fans come off as unhinged mentally deficient abrasive psychos instead of getting a job, or taking a shower
Cultists will gobble up whatever shit you serve and beg for more. After they killed their comp, they had no reason to try. Put cena where he is, and never cared how many people he ran off. It was half of the audience. They got a blue print from that and we had the horrible roman face run. It wasnt until they harvested enough bad faith from their consumers , some one to attack, and some luck that they started bouncing back

>>18187292
The kast person they centered around that grew the rating was either stone cold or the rock.
Mayyyyybe lesnar or Goldberg during his last run
Maybe they should learn how to get a guy popular and make people want to watch him. It ain't that fuckin hard. Theyre not building a rocket, they getting guys over in a fake sport

>>18187054 (OP)
dear oh dear oh dear

>>18201138
>slid down to P8 in 1 hr
YOU CANNOT SLIDE IT FAT TITS
xD

>>18187054 (OP)
>watch wrestling maybe a handful of times a year
>every single show is
>guy from 400 years ago or guy from the last 10 years
>guy from 400 years ago always works the mic
>new guy fucking sucks donkey dick
>500 ads everywhere i look
>actual wrestling starts
>it's godawful
>watch wrestlemania
>it's all this times 10
>but now there's a bunch of random z tier zoomer celebrities from twitch
>it's fucking 19 hours long
>there's 2 good matches
>both matches were carried by the old guy
and that's just wwe. every other brand is the exact same shit, but with a smaller budget. when did it get this bad?

>>18199245
You're fucking retarded. If an MLB team can only score 3 runs against the Dodgers, it's fine. If a high school team scores 2 runs against the Dodgers it's astounding.

>>18194564
>Huh? It's been a huge success for Netflix, always in the top ten as a weekly show,
This means nothing. Netflix is a massive platform and it's content is very fragmented. Doing 2.5 million views on a WORLDWIDE streaming service that has hundreds of millions of subscribers is really bad. When the first Raw ep on Netflix did like 5 million the word was "It was only go higher as countries like India are added". Turns out it only went down.
>A streaming service that woman would use to watch romance movies is now playing with the big boys in the weekly TV game.
It's not. The ratings are garbage. And most agree that WWE went into Netflix during a boom period but that boom period is over.

Rough. The bad news just keep coming for the fed

>>18201594
>when did it get this bad?
The Invasion Angle.

>>18201970
>ringboy scandal
i don't get it, that's just the way it works. when i was 16, my boss was opening my ass up pretty much daily. i made more than everyone because i knew how the game was played.

If any of this were true you wouldn't have to necrobump.

>>18201960
>Being top 10 every week means nothing
Do you ever listen to the stupid shit you say?

>>18202069
>Do you ever listen to the stupid shit you say?
So you admit that Netflix is a shitty streaming channel for women watching romance movies and Raw making the top 10 in this shitty group is somehow a big deal? And I guess losing 50% of your viewers from the first ep (and that's with the expansion into other countries) is good too, right? They also paid billions for this. You're delusional.

>>18199245
Hope you choke to death on Triple K's blood & oil covered cock.

>>18187054 (OP)
Huh? Why aren't zoomers opening the Netflix app and watching fake wrestling? Who could have seen this coming

Oh no

>>18202805
look at the demo
only boomers watch wwe

where are the calculations?

>>18204022
What demo? The smackdown one that triples AEW's demo?

>Raw being in the top ten most popular shows on Netflix every single week since January is a bad thing
>AEW getting fewer viewers than HGTV reruns is pretty good actually

>>18187054 (OP)
the Downfall of Monday Night Raw will be studied for generations

>>18187054 (OP)
BASED
FUCK THE FED

>>18206576
Raw gets a lower rating than HGTV too, PigTits

FUCKING KEK
https://x.com/PWC_3/status/1942685350234661291


it's over for anyone involved with seth's riders KWAB

>>18187054 (OP)
To the surprise of only retards. WWE have basically been scamming every company they've done deals with over the past 20 years. It's amazing they've been able to keep it up for this long desu.

>>18207972
G R I M

>>18187054 (OP)
Yikes

>>18187054 (OP)
Holy shit

>>18187054 (OP)
lmao WWE is fucking DEAD

>>18187315
>Raw doing less viewers than it did on cable is.....a good thing?

Kek Pigtits in the mud

>>18211181
Dynamite did 600k viewers and their next PPV is only going to do like 150k viewers KWAB, that means they'll die soon, their PPV is only getting 1/4 of their TV audience

This thread is a perfect example as what mental illness looks like. This is why smarks need to take the wrestling figs out of their anuses already.

Kek Pigtits having a melty

>>18187072
2.5 Milly worldwide across 7 days is grim

>>18211291
Now add in the numbers from Germany, France and Japan, where Raw is available on local TV instead of Netflix. You have those numbers available, right?

>>18211258
>Pigtits
You're looking in your mirror right now?

>>18187054 (OP)
yikes
Raw is dying for a shoot

Grim

>>18187072
killshot

>>18187054 (OP)
Badola

Netflix will cancel their partnership within 5 years. Same thing happened when Smackdown went to FOX they promoted the hell out of it, shoved every legend they still had on payroll to boost the viewership, lied to FOX pretending this momentum will be continuous and 7 months later they're barely even a blimp on the radar. Unless you get another lightning in a bottle angle RAW will end up back on cable on the USA network

>>18201960
>Doing 2.5 million views on a WORLDWIDE streaming service that has hundreds of millions of subscribers is really bad.

Bad relative to what? Broadcast stuff like CSI or whatever is popular nowadays? Sure, but nobody was expecting that. NHL games on cable getting 200,000 or cooking channel shows getting 100,000? How can anything getting in their own top ten not be viewed as huge for Netflix? Not a special like Tiger King or a movie or a pay per view, but a WEEKLY SERIES exclusive to Netflix. This is an absolute game changer for Netflix. 52 weeks a year. Streaming just needs to get more live sports and a few other things away from cable. They don't even need to be in a top 10, but clueless negative people would say NHL on Netflix was a failure without it, blah blah blah.
>The ratings are garbage.

Are you confused? We're talking about Raw. There's a wrestlenomics link in here that shows how super successful it is. Easily one of the most watched things on cable or streaming. More watched for the year at this point than last year on USA when it's been trending downward year after year.

>And most agree that WWE went into Netflix during a boom period but that boom period is over.

Yet by far a top watched program as it would be with 800,000 weekly viewers. Unlike the NHL or college baseball or skateboarding, wrestling is always in the top for any platform it is on. Yet NHL fans don't whine and complain when regular season games get lower ratings.

>>18187072
>>18187077
>>18187797
>>18211291
2.5 million Netflix VIEWS = 3.4 million VIEWERS because not everyone watches TV alone, brother

>>18212670
Fox is a broadcast network that focuses on providing 20 hours a week and is highly dependent on maximizing advertising revenue. Netflix is a different business model with lots of short term focus on getting people to drop cable. About Smackdown Fox said "we were not hitting the advertising numbers due to the audience of WWE".

>>18187054 (OP)
>after calculating everything
what is he calculating? is he gonna pull some numbers out of his ass just like the fabled MAX viewership?

>>18187054 (OP)
Slap the belt on Hulk Hogan, a proven draw, and watch ratings skyrocket

>>18201960
How is it bad? It has been in the top 10 Netflix chart since it debuted. Netflix doesn't have that kind of shit, they have seasonal shows that pull good numbers every 2 years when new content is available
Originally raw was reported to have around 3.5 milly on its debut which was a huuuge failure we wouldn't hear the end of it. Turns out it was actually 5 which is now a huuuge failure because they lost so many viewers since then!!
If you see raw ratings on Netflix since debut they have went back and forth between 3.5 to 2.5 with the peak on wrestlemania then settling down again
The whole abysmal decline thing is only over in planet retard
The show may be crap but ratingwise it's a success for netflix

>>18213289
Netflix was fed all the fluff pieces WWE has to offer they make up numbers due to WrestleMania or specialty shows like RAW 100 or Legends night or some shit they don't show an average monday night raw viewership number because those aren't impressive. Nick Khan sweet talks these execs with fake numbers, social media numbers boosted by Indians and venue ticket sales he's a con man and before him it was Vince doing this. You can bullshit for a while but eventually the truth unfolds and RAW isn't delivering on the numbers they initially promised when WWE was red hot with the cody, roman and rock angle

>>18187054 (OP)
kek Raw is dying

>Raw and Smackdown look the same (oh wait, one is blue and one is red)
>both are booked the same
>everyone wrestles the same style and does the same match
Gee, I wonder why no one is watching one over the other.

>>18215193
It's not even a success compared to its premeire

>>18187054 (OP)
Something always comes along to save them, but that was when they had Vince, the human 4-leaf clover. kek. Wonder what Jim Cornette will say about this. He's obsessed with ratings. Surely, he'll make a video. Surely!

>>18187315
So 2.5 million out of 300,000,000 Netflix subscribers are watching RAW over a week's time? Yikes.

>>18193668
i think 500,000 worldwide is more accurate.

>>18215511
So let me get this straight, your cope is that Nick Khan specifically has conned and tricked a company worth 530 billion dollars (that's with a B, not an M).

Nick Khan
Outsmarted an entire company worth over half a trillion
They just didn't have the resources or money or ability to fact check his "made up numbers"
This is your cope

This is why we call AEW fans mentally ill, it's not just some insult we flippantly throw out there. You are legitimately mentally ill to not merely believe the things you do but to so readily present them to other people as though they are fact.

>>18217676
Which puts it in the top 0.1% of Netflix programming available, yes. I don't know how brain-damaged you have to be to not be able to understand and recognize this reality, but that is in fact the reality of the situation.

>>18217720
is that good or bad? i know shrek gets bigger ratings than raw.

>>18217710
Entertainment suits are some of the dumbest people on Earth.

>>18217739
>Netflix has a vast library of content, including both original and licensed programming. While it's difficult to pinpoint an exact number, Netflix offers thousands of movies and TV series. For example, the US library is known to have consistently offered around 7,000 titles over the last three years, according to Ampere Analysis. Netflix also has a substantial number of original productions
>7000 titles
>Raw is routinely Top 10
I would have to think producing a new title every single week, and staying in the Top 10, would be a good thing. But I understand it's too much effort for you to put together words, phrases and sentences to explain why it would be bad, so you will troll instead.

>>18217749
So your legitimate argument is that Netflix is at the mercy of Nick Khan

But you would deny being profoundly mentally ill

>>18217815
No I'm saying that suits got carnied.

>>18217826
Netflix has somehow never before and never since been carnied, weird how that works

>>18188009
>loses to HGTV School

>>18187054 (OP)
UH OH STINKY DOO DOO!!!!!!

>>18187054 (OP)
BT did a PP

>>18187054 (OP)
LE RENAISSANCE ERA

PAUL LE WECK ERA

>>18217802
>I would have to think producing a new title every single week, and staying in the Top 10, would be a good thing.
Netflix cancelled Jupiter's Legacy even though it was the #1 show on their top 10. It just cost too much. I bet they have buyers remorse for WWE. In their mind they could have made 4 Squid Game like shows and 5 more Love Island shits for the same money and gotten more return. Raw is a flop on Netflix. And I love how retards when from "It debuted with 6 million viewers and this number will only go up as new territories are added!" to "Ok the numbers are down more than 50%, but the show is in this arbitrary top 10 list, I guess". SAD.

>>18220023
WWE Raw has already produced nearly 4x more episodes than Jupiter's Legacy, thanks for trying though

>>18187072
That's 2.5 milly worldwide. lmao. You know they used to be based and do 10 milly in the USA alone, right? They've lost a milly since wrestlemania, too.

>>18220023
>Despite replacing DeKnight as showrunner with Kim halfway through production, the show still ran massively over budget, totaling $200 million to produce, with its hefty price tag being one of the main factors in the decision to forgo a second season
You're such a gay fuckin faggot, you know nobody except you follows this gay shit, but you can't even tell the truth on the first run through, you make people fact check your gay ass to show how much you're lying

>>18187054 (OP)
Didn't Alvarez say that meltzer's been wrong about the number every single week?

>>18220046
>WWE Raw has already produced nearly 4x more episodes than Jupiter's Legacy, thanks for trying though
And it cost a lot more. The point stands. Netflix cancelled Jupiter's Legacy (even though it had over a billion minutes viewed) because it cost too much. If the Raw deal was for 1 year only it wouldn't be renewed.

>>18220079
>You're such a gay fuckin faggot, you know nobody except you follows this gay shit, but you can't even tell the truth on the first run through, you make people fact check your gay ass to show how much you're lying
It was too expensive. Even the one billion minutes viewed and being #1 in the Netflix top 10 wasn't enough to save it. Raw does less numbers than that.

I had to work during raw last week. Also I don't watch it with Netflix ;)

>>18220235
>>18220251
Jupiter's Legacy cost $25,000,000/episode you fuckin retard, Raw costs under $10,000,000/episode, stop with the gay troll act

>>18187054 (OP)
Very dark times

Dire numbers. Less than 3 million people are watching this slop worldwide. I bet half of them are watching on a second profile too so nobody can see that they've watched this garbage.

>>18220840
Yeah, Jupiter's Legacy cost more, but it got MUCH MORE viewers and minutes viewed.
So based on your logic
>high cost + high views = BAD for business
>medium cost + low views = GOOD for business
Both are bad for business.

>>18188009
the best kind of lolcow doesn't realize they're a lolcow

>>18225418
Hmmmmm

Oh no

>>18211181
its called premium broadcasting
they figured this shit out with hbo