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Schedule
7.21 SUMMER SUN PRINCESS '25 @ Ota Ward General Gymnasium, Tokyo (LIVE)[14:00 JST]
7.27 12th Tokyo Princess Cup 1st Round @ Shinjuku FACE, Tokyo (LIVE)[18:00 JST]
8.2 12th Tokyo Princess Cup 1st Round @ Act City Hamamatsu Exhibition and Event Hall, Shizuoka (VOD)[12:00 JST]
8.5 Hyper Misao Produced Show "HYPE!3 (rerun)" @ Kitazawa Town Hall, Tokyo (VOD)[18:30 JST]
8.9 12th Tokyo Princess Cup Quarterfinals @ Shinagawa The Grand Hall, Tokyo (LIVE)[13:00 JST]
8.17 12th Tokyo Princess Cup Semifinals @ EDION Arena Osaka 2nd Stadium, Osaka (LIVE)[12:30 JST]
8.23 12th Tokyo Princess Cup Finals @ Korakuen Hall, Tokyo (LIVE)[11:30 JST]
8.30 Holy Light Ranbu~Kyoto Glass Chapter~ @ KBS Hall, Kyoto (VOD)[12:30 JST]
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>>18264133
new pomsister pics dropped
Texas couldn't have handled Uta anyway
for the price of about 2 portraits + international shipping you could have an actual player fellate you
I've lost a lot of respect for Hikari over the last year but I'll never hate her. As long as she's genuinely happy
Alright why did Arai and Moka do an interview together? What does this mean? Are they going to win? Are they both going to lose? Usually the person that does an interview loses. This is the first time 2 challengers have done an interview together.
>>18268394damn.... she's like that
shoutout EgoPanik, avid lurker
I sent Tokyo Story an email this morning thanking them for putting on such great shows and got a very Japanese response back.
>>18268400Daydream didnt do an interview but they did a video training for their match. Suzume did do an interview. I honestly have no idea who will win now.
>>18268413that's very based on both parts, anon-san
>>18268393Nobody is genuinely happy doing that kind of work. They'll lie (either to you or themselves) and say they are. But no.
Moka did interview for this pep guy, so she is going over in 30 seconds squash
>>18268400It means nothing, it's just someone (definitely not Koda) trying to promote the upper card matches a little more and since they're a tag team too they may as well film theirs together
>>18268400>>18268415for the last time
arai is losing
there has never been a pop winner at ssp because the tpc starts a few weeks after it
daydream were practically going their separate ways but there are no credible opponents for kyokyo so theyre clearly losing too
moka has a high chance of winning because shes someone koda has an interest in just like with aino
>>18268451and aino will win the tpc :p
Arai has done like 10 interviews for this match, Mizuki has done one. Moka has done several, Suzume has done two I think. Neither KyoKyo nor Daydream have done any interviews yet. Interpret all this as you will
>>18268443>since they're a tag teamdo they have an official team name?
>>18268490the pop and chop connection
>>18268472>Neither KyoKyo nor Daydream have done any interviews yet.https://x.com/tjpw2013/status/1944262934575939721
daydream has and it was reported by various news sites
>>18268490They usually call themselves MokaYuki I think
>>18268496BACK THE FUCK OFF?
>>18268513That's not an interview, it's a transcript of a youtube video
koda knows better than to give the belts to someone that threw a bitch fit
https://forms.gle/vSdVoQ2FzhLfxUhc7
Predictions form for SSP '25
youtube version is higher resolution than the twitter version shared in the last thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtgCMheB8qs
>>18268561remember guys. when voting take what i said
>>18268451 into consideration. you have a higher chance of winning.
>>18268565fumirin my one true love
>>18268568>OMG EW 4CHAN>continues to post here anonymouslyMost twitter trannies use this as a mystery vortex chatroom while they wait for their discord to ping
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>>18268568Yes, we're the nasty fucks. Retarded cunt.
I believe I called that dyke bitch a tranny
>>18268582don't worry I'll just vote for my favorites like always
We are 3 days removed from the Dallas show and not a single Japanese media outlet has reported on it at all
>>18268610They're pissed it was so successful.
>>18268610ok? blame takagi and cf for not using their connections.
>>18268630>having to use "connections" to actually get the media to report on the biggest joshi show ever held in the usAnd that's the problem
>>18268568I think someone posted the fan art not the 2 shots, idk what you are crying for
>[This Time's Shadow Announcer
>The "Shadow Announcer" who makes announcements about precautions and other information at the venue during the opening time of the Big Show.
>On July 21 (holiday) at the Ota City General Gymnasium, Toya and Haru Fushiro will be performing this role.
>This is an experience exclusive to those who come to the venue, as it cannot be heard on the broadcast.
>Fans of the two should take their seats early.
>>18268653do they even cover tjpw in america? i only remember seeing an article about miyu's aew title match after it happened and it was just 1 article.
>>18268653those connections also got them the US show in the first place
>>18268393It's already been concluded by someone with vast real life experience that those places dont hire bescarred degenarates with gaping lobes.
>>18268653Mr Sao has Shupro connections since he used to work there. Maybe we will get one later.
>>18268686They wrote several articles about the Houston shows
>>18268693Connections to the Japanese media got them the US shows?
>>18268706the bescarred degenerate with gaping lobes had no trouble getting hired by a respectable massage parlor though
reverb girl had her 15 minutes already. fuck off back to your normie life.
syuri showing up at all in got multiple articles
theres levels to this
I said months ago that Hikari Noa was giving handjobs in her new job but nobody believed me then.
So real question: how many of you would book a handjob from Hikari if/when you went to Japan?
>>18268565>referee does a better job announcing than the announcergrim
Quincey and the rest of you need to be in JAIL!
>>18268917i was always praying for her downfall so it would bring me great pleasure
>>18268917I do not engage with sex workers.
The probably want to do an interview with a player that was on the show thats why no one has reported on it. They barely got back to Japan yesterday.
please be respectful and don't post about my wife's massive titties (Fumirin)
>>18268810>reverb girlkeeeek
https://archive.palanq.win/pw/search/filename/1750648116592262/
I want to FUCK Haru Kazashiro and I don't care f that makes me a pedo.
I do engage with sex workers
helping haru-chan with her homework
>>18269196finna post this on X and complain
>>18269213woah its the same spot they did on night one. how original.
>>18269241Some real American specimens.
Chikashizo is spamming again
Is Chika debuting new gear at SSP?
One of the maids made me horny as fuck
>>18269316Twitter won't like this one
>>18269316Which one? The fat one?
the filipina tubster with the giant titties
>>18269333they were all fat
Can someone please tell me who or what is reverb girl? Last time I asked someone basically told me not to worry about it. I tried to google it but nothing seemed relevant. Want to know what everyone is laughing about.
>>18269241>80% of the fans are shitskins and niggersAmerica
>>18269390one tranny thinks that calling namba reverb girl is an epic own for some reason
CyberAgent is worth $5 billion and they make our precious girls fly economy, what an evil fucking company.
>>18269475cyberagent didn't buy the tickets
the insane allure of the friendly girls
>>18269510it's the responsibility of the host to purchase tickets
Why TJPW doesn't produce cookbooks like Stardom or Maricold?
>>18269601Coombooks*
stupid auto correct
>>18269608Nah fuck that, you were right the first time.
Better question, why don't the friendly players hold cooking competitions like what happened 2-3 years ago
would buy a joshi cookbook
https://files.catbox.moe/7d6jsl.mp4
>>18268472It's almost as if Arai is the biggest name in the company
Had a match in AEW and multiple matches in ROH and didnt bother posting any baka.
>>18269684she is totally signed though
>>18269687how ungrateful to attend a show and instead watch a dying sport.
>>18269684either she doesnt want to make it obvious that she got a contract or she did in fact not get a contract and shes mad.
>>18268917First thing I would do after landing and checking in at my Yokohama hotel
>>18269647I miss those. Maybe someone could think up of having that competition again in the fan appreciation shows.
I would love a cookbook from the players. It seems cute and wholesome. We'd get background on why they chose their dish and possibly some personal stories, which we don't often get from some players. We'd finally get Pom's homemade kimbap recipes
Would you want in character recipe's like Shoko dropping knowledge on perfecting a T bone steak? Or dishes the girls personally like?
>>18269745Little bit of each would be cool.
>>18269721I'm sad that it will never happen.
This thread today
>Man gets turned on by women, gets kink shamed by normie nuns
>Wrestler promotes their new sex work after losing her job, somehow Koda is to blame
None of this shit is drama, it's normal life. What happened to the Rika/Misao comments from 5chan, now that's real shit
>>18269745Why do they all look like ugly aliens.
>>18269768We should talk about feet instead
>>18269768You got (deservedly) shamed for being a complete fucking degenerate in a Discord server with other people, Quincey. Not for being turned on by women. Straw man harder though, it's working out great for you.
>>18269768bro that's nothing, one twitter tranny keeps trying to cancel random fans at shows that take pics of the wrestlers wrestling
>>18269768those jap uncles want to see misao and rika have a shoot fight or something
>>18269770turn on your monitor
>>18269665I hate america so much
>>18269804Misao could beat up Rika desu
>>18269826the brownoid european cannot conceptualize masculinity and dominance
>>18269804if rika and misao breakup then i fear tjpw will no longer be the tjpw we know and love
>>18269804drama = entertainment
simple as
>masculinity and dominance
>guns as phallic overcompensation
>can't refute being brown and european
>therefor can't conceptualize
enjoy the rape gangs and muslim prayer hour
>>18269349Aries isn't she's just got a big nose.
MISAO VS RIKA TEXAS DEATH
I donโt think this girl is Hikari, her earlobes donโt look stretched out
>>18269874those feet and tits don't lie
>>18269874I can't tell if you're joking because her right ear looks elongated as if she's had large gauge piercings
>>18269843How does Rika counteract Misao's pepper spray?
It's a shame @sena_aino got suspended since it looks like she was regularly posting pics
>>18269889Choking Misao to death
>>18269897Maybe she started a new account under her new name
I also don't understand these workers starting social media accounts. They're going to get shut down if they're any good. You can't really advertise what you sell. Half the time they get deleted anyway.
I was going to drop some copypasta but I'll save it and say discord goon faggots OUT
>>18269889>Misao's pepper spraylethal tactics
I like how you people let Twitter and reddit win by destroying this thread with your nonsense discussions.
This was supposed to be a friendly thread.
fuck pepper spray she should have chemical x or some ridiculous gimmicky substance
>>18269987it started in /stardom/ but when jumbo was revealed to be a teej fanatic the discussion moved here. go post in /neotjpw/ oh wait...
pepper spray isn't canon it's just something whoever was running the tokyo story social media made up
>>18269687Wow, if I imagine really hard its like I can look down her blouse!
Uta-Goblin got in the sugar again.
>>18269837>>18269853Americans originate from euro land
did we ever figure out who the other two are
>>18270061>@toga__tjpw @uug_p_uta
>>18269993bring on the slime to trap the players
>>18270056what does this have to do with misao and rika breaking up?
new Namba vlog
https://youtube.com/shorts/GyCis-JXh7A
>>18270194Namba's new numba
I am shoot in love with fumirin
>>18269241>all those people with their phones out recordingthe hypami dd is a draw!
>>18270326>people with their phones out recordingI will never understand why people do this.
>>18270332people want that 90 second video memory theyll never watch again
>>18270326i want to ride it
>>18269881Yea she has that droopy earlobe when her gauges aren't in. Also besides the mole on her arm, her right eyebrow has the same dip in height around the middle and that patch with less hair. Also if you compare pics of Hikari, the eye shapes are the same (like the corners and shit). In that pic of her in the black, they went out of their way to not just cover up her face, but her ear as well.
Some nigerian or kurdish pimp probably got her hooked on drugs and has her turning tricks
>>18270430no, she just wants to make more money and rubbing oil on salarymen while wearing something sexy is an easy way to do that
https://archive.palanq.win/pw/thread/17247698/#q17251722
>>18269684after ssp, miyu will announce her graduation. its not a coincidence that shes facing billie. enjoy the view.
>>18270517wish shino would choke me desu
>>18270550ok butt like why did she post this random ass shot in her wholesome and thankful post and who took pic?
>>18269997Now that is a name I haven't heard in a long time
>>18269793is he in the room with us right now? Seek medical help and go back to twitter tranny.
>>18270517I shoot wanna marry her and start a family together
>>18270550>billie and miyu have an intense match>billie wins>miyu is laying on the mat>billie gets the mic>you fought well miyu. you are an elite wrestler but to be truly elite, you need to be all elite>billie hands her an aew contract>miyu grabs it with tears running down her face>miyu stands up and gets the mic>ay em arr erito>crowd politely claps>the end
>>18270605>miyu wakes up>it was all a dream >miyu then jumps out of her apartment Kino
>>18270550anal in the fucking ass with miyu yamashitas bum
I look forward to seeing the confidence inspiring games of Shino Suzuki
>>18268413Email them to ask where the VOD is
we will find you. we will post your brown mug. we will make a collage of your horniest moments.
I also look forward to seeing the confidence inspiring singing and dancing of Shino Suzuki
>>18270767You can't find me nor will you ever. Now if you excuse me I will ejaculate onto more Haru portraits
watching the us show now. it's kino. miu vs wakana was a great opener. seeing th e players so happy at the turnout is very wholesome
>>18270814Their reactions to the huge crowd in Dallas was cool to see, it would be nice to watch it.
>It's not a men's massage
>Of course, that kind of delusion is no good.
>Stop slandering retired people. Why do you write such lies?
>This person is probably sick so ignore them
>It's a head spa, but I guess my brain translated it that way... Poor thing.
>I guess he couldn't face reality and just translated it in his head... Poor guy.
>In reality it was a head spa, but I guess I didn't understand what a head spa was so I mentally translated it into men's esthetics...
our 5ch cousins were coping hard this morning
i can't wait until Uta gets fired and starts working at a men's massage place
>>18270845Does she only do handjobs or does she get naked and squeeze your dick between her tits too?
STOP TALKING ABOUT HIKARI SHE'S FUCKING RETIRED
>>18269665waitโฆmaki was shooting at the cows??
>Today I worked a little more hours than usual, and as a result, my muscles were already sore on the way home
>(I was just warming up the mat for my brother who was coming home, so I guess I was warming him up)
>>18270884the hikari fag used to spam her all the time
>>18270884It took these retards years to shut up about Maho and only cyberstalk her in private cuz people here stopped caring. Good luck.
>>18270884>he says as he posts a retired ring announcer
>>18270458She's working at a headspa, a cockspa, and a bar. It seems like she's struggling to make the same amount of money she made if she had stayed with Cyberfight
pom in the buccee suit was kino
>>18270925if you look at the 5ch thread, even some of them are annoyed by the conversation. some guy said it has nothing to do with pro wrestling so go discuss it elsewhere and hes right.
>>18270954>someit's one guy seething about Hikari being a hooker
the cum police are here watching, taking notes, writing you up for your horniest moments
Are the predictions for SSP up yet?
>>18271018All the tits distracted me
>>18270845You can see it's her in her eyes
>>18270936She sold the most UUG and TJPW merch, so obviously it's not the same type of money. But it's also probably less expensive when you don't need to look or dress a certain way as a public figure. And she has her boyfriend to support her now.
Remember, she was being accused (and you could sorta tell by watching) of not caring about wrestling anymore. Maybe the money wasn't worth it.
I'd be very surprised if anyone gets all the SSP predictions right
who sold the most merch in texas?
https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/652816258522067c104ca3373475a409f305428e
>Tokyo Joshi Pro Wrestling attracted 2,540 people to their Dallas event on the 13th, the largest number of people in the organization's history. Tokyo Joshi held three events in Texas from the 10th to the 13th, all of which were sold out. In particular, the event held in Dallas on the 13th attracted 2,540 people, breaking the previous group record of 2,349 people at the Ryogoku Kokugikan event on March 31st last year. Princess of Princess champion Mizuki (30), who defeated Maki Ito (29) with a Cutie Special in the main event of the day, vowed to return to Texas, saying, "Throughout the Texas tour, I thought Texas was a wonderful place, and above all, being able to fight Maki Ito today at this timing really warmed up my heart, which was very nervous about Ota Ward , so I will definitely defend my title in Ota Ward with this momentum. And I will return to Texas with the belt again." Ito, on the other hand, smiled at the "Dallas boom" and said, "About 2,500 people came and it was incredibly exciting. 2,500 people, that's amazing. And merchandise sales were good too. I'll come again."
We finally got an article!
VOD
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We want the VOD though
>>18271125while its obviously amazing that they got that many people in there, i hope the wrestlers realize it wouldnt have been possible without all in. i dont want them thinking they will get anywhere near as much the next time they work with tokyostory. they cant even crack 1k during mania week.
>>18271144TJPW was the draw for All In.
>>18271174Hangman Page is just a Bucees Tribute act.
>>18270674She's never had a game that inspires you to not forget it as soon as it, much less confidence.
>An additional show, 'Additional Attack '25', has been scheduled for Saturday, October 18th at Korakuen Hall!
with Neko gone and Miyu getting signed who will be our designated fat player now?
>>18270562everyone loves miyu yamashita's bum
https://battle-news.com/?p=133993
>In the end, it was a great success, but it was by no means smooth sailing. When they sought support from the J-LOX+ subsidyโfunded by the Ministry of Education, Culture, Sports, Science and Technology and the Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry, and aimed at promoting the overseas expansion of Japan-originated content to create a 'Japan boom' and expand related industries abroad as well as increase inbound tourismโthey were rejected on the grounds that 'womenโs professional wrestling does not fall under the eligible content.'
>Although womenโs pro wrestling has become a culturally rooted form of entertainment in Japan, and despite reapplying with additional evidence, such as the international success of Iyo Sky and past instances where pro wrestling had been recognized by the Ministry of Education in other projects, they received the same response: 'womenโs professional wrestling does not fall under the eligible content.'
>Regarding this matter, Koichi Hagiuda, a member of the Liberal Democratic Party and chairman of the nonpartisan Parliamentary League for the Promotion of Martial Arts, stated that while he is โnot in a position to comment on the eligibility of individual applications,โ he also emphasized: โThe overseas expansion of Japanese martial arts and sports, including womenโs professional wrestling, is extremely important for Japanโs industrial competitiveness. We would like to have thorough discussions with the relevant government agencies on how such efforts can be supportedโnot only through content policy but also through broader policy measures.โ In doing so, he pledged future support.
>>18271444>Due to the recent appreciation of the yen, the total cost including transportation and accommodation amounted to nearly 400,000 yen per person. Despite this, around 20 peopleโincluding wrestlers and staffโtraveled to the U.S. While additional costs such as local staff and venue fees were also incurred, it appears they were able to avoid operating at a loss for this first attempt, including through revenue from streaming and other sources.
Imagine the scenes in the tjpw lockerroom when it was unceremoniously revealed that Hikari senshu was now turning tricks
>>18271444Fuck politics trying to suppress our girls, but they succeeded in the end!
>At the ranch, I had some rare and special experiences you don't often get to haveโlike relaxing in a hammock, riding in a wagon, and meeting the cows.
>Apparently in Texas, it's common for wealthy people to own ranches as a hobbyโฆ!! That's amazing!!
>>182714093 korakuen halls in august, october, and november and wrestle princess is in september.
no idea why koda would do this but now he has to book multiple title matches. i think by the end of november, all 3 titles will have changed hands.
>>18269940She made another account, @ainosena_, but that one seems to have been suspended too. She doesn't have a twitter account under her new Rin name. Idk how the other women are able to maintain accounts when Hikari had two accounts suspended in short order
>>18271108Itoh by a mile, but I guess the others did well. Pom didn't have any shirts left after the Houston shows.
>>18271144I think with proper advertising 1k is easily doable. I won't deny that All In helped in Dallas, but that doesn't explain the success of Houston. And wasn't Vegas around 800, even with gcw's lack of advertising?
>>18271476There's probably some pent up demand for a TJPW Korakuen show, so it should be fine. The August one will be headlined by the TPC final, so he only has to book title matches for October and November
does TJPW have an english twitter account?
>>18271643No they just occasionally post in English on their main twitter account
>The draw for the matchups will be streamed tomorrow on our official YouTube channel. Look forward to seeing what matchups will be drawn!
>>18271643better shot of the audience
I'm glad Koda wouldn't book a 56 minute double ko main event
seems kinda dumb to fuck up the filming and then stall for ages putting out the vod when they had so much hype and momentum around this show
>>18271762What a crazy crowd for TJPW. Truly amazing.
>>18270923Truly an insane and twisted psychopath.
>>18271862Yeah the VOD would already be out if they let our trusted partner GCW handle things instead of some oil mark
There's a rumor that they lost the micro sd with the show on it
>>18271993Who's saying this? 5chan uncles?
I doubt they've lost the footage, it's probably just going to take a while to air. The TJPW in Santiago took 16 days from being filmed to being uploaded to WU
>>18272014the invite only /tjpw/ splinter gooncord
>>18271643no they have an official english bluesky account
>>18271864Looks normal to me, they were always popular
>>18271902I was at the first show on Thursday and the dude running the stream had a GCW hat on.
>>18272139Ah, and the camera guy on Sunday had a Collective shirt on, so maybe
I would bet money that they have no local copy of the live produced OBS feed (as normally the WU streaming server would save the VOD) and now some takeshi is re-editing the show from the different cameras
I hope Moka wins the belt
>>18271862Oil-sama spent every penny on highway advertisements, not a competent production team. please understand
https://x.com/koda0202/status/1945483672955826362
>Unfortunately, the Dallas event's live stream on WRESTLE UNIVERSE was interrupted, but preparations for its release are underway, and it seems you won't have to wait too long to watch it. Please wait a little longer for the official announcement.
>>18269973It never gets old.
When is Misao doing her online signing
>>18272356that was before the GCW intern left with the USB containing the show file before handing it over to WU staff.
>Over the past two days at the #ddtpro Shinjuku FACE event, we were selling tickets for SUMMER SUN PRINCESS '25!! Some people learned about Kazashiro for the first time, and some already knew โ I was so happy either way!! Seeing so many people pick up tickets really fired me up!! To everyone who bought tickets today, to those who bought them yesterday, and to those who already had them โ thank you all so much!! Next Monday!! Letโs meet at Ota City General Gymnasium!! Tickets are still on sale! If youโre still on the fence, come on out!!
>>18272435This is for her marketing elective.
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SSP portrait pre-sales
I am going to get fumirin to admit she's a leftist during the sainkai
>>18271476He said he wanted WP in October but the only date he could get Ota Ward booked for was in September. As for this Korakuen, I think they were given the slot by DDT or NOAH
>>18272655Mifu Ashida's inability to draw dimes needs to be studied. It makes no sense to me
>>18272704Give her some time to find a character that connects with the fans.
>>18272704It's been discussed over and over that the Japanese uncles are afraid of womanly wiles. They are mostly lolicon
>>18272425Haru busting her hump to try and beat that Dallas attendance record, what is the initial attendance forecast for SSP?
>>18272729they literally could not beat the dallas number even if they sold out every seat (which they won't)
>>18272704what dat tongue do
>>18272725And that's pure cope since Nao Kakuta (38) was one of the biggest merch sellers and Kamiyu (32) is #7 here
>>18272756>Mizuki 70>Suzume 70
>>18272756kamiyu is a slutty whore, that has more appeal than a pretty woman to uncles
I thought Kamiyuโs sales mainly came from women. Also, why is Toga so low? Fans are always marking out over her, but they donโt pre-buy portraits?
>>18272775>Rika Tatsumi 57>Yuki Kamifuku 49>>18272783She really isn't though. She shows less skin than most of the roster now
>>18272822Women don't buy merch
>>18272725Mifu can't even beat 34 year old cat hag Mahiro
>>18272704She's highly visual and that's it, she has zero appeal or personality outside of that.
>She shows less skin than most of the roster now
>has an onlyfans
you literally make this shit up
>>18272891An OF barely anyone is subbed to. And yes, her gear covers up more of her body than most of the roster
>>18272897Iโm still subbed to her patreon, I think she only has about ten people subbed to it, I say this becaus Iโve never seen more than 10 likes on any of her pics.
>>18272912her onlyfans posts get maybe 30 likes and always have 3 comments from the same 3 guys
>>18272927Is one of them german?
jannies on irc are thinking of punishing you chuds who make new before page 10
you've been fighting that losing battle for a long time fampai
I dont like that tokyo story are gun-toting japanese rednecks
>>18268568But this thread is fine..?
>>18272655aino has momentum
miyu not being in the bottom 5 is a shocker
>>18274325aino is in the exact same place she always is