Dave Meltzer, 40-year wrestling journalist, confirms hundreds of thousands of fans of AEW are watching on MAX.

Well this will certainly make him seethe even harder.

>>18291409 (OP)
>we don’t know

>>18291409 (OP)
>hundreds of thousands of fans of AEW are watching on MAX.
Afraid not. TNT Sports accidentally let the cat out of the bag. Max viewership is DIRE.

>>18291409 (OP)
He is right though. Unlike you faggots he isn't exagerrating. He isn't saying that they are doing 2 milly including MAX. So when you piggiE bitches and raped victim Nujamals insist that AEW is doing 10k viewers on MAX then you out yourselves as gotten to retarded bitches with AEW derangement syndrome.

>>18291409 (OP)
crazy that AEW has one of the most successful streaming to live ration ever and neither AEW or WBD ever talk about it.

>>18291409 (OP)
>low end
>885k

he is out of his fucking mind as they weren't doing this before the MAX deal

I’ll just put the question here too, I guess. genuinely asking where they came from. They were getting the same numbers basically the weeks before and after going on MAX, so where did these hundreds of thousands of extra viewers come from? Going on MAX did not make a couple hundred thousand new fans if it did we'd hear about it in two ways one being AEW and two being MAX both entities would be very happy about viewership and subs and shit. I genuinely want to know where Dave thinks these fans came from. No, your friend watching on MAX is not proof or a poll, it's one person.

>>18291468
It's also crazy how AEW never ranks on Max. It's not in the top 10, not in the top 20, nothing.

>>18291409 (OP)
again do these people also.watch collision or are these mystery 500k new viewers that appeared out of thin air only watching Dynamite? And if they are watching collision why is the network still and it's that successful why is the network still.working the schedule?

>>18291440
KEKW

>>18291409 (OP)
>500 thousand more people watch every week
>selling less tickets than ever
does he every explain the contradiction here?

>>18291475
>I genuinely want to know where Dave thinks these fans came from
Dave is simply making it up and he's doing a poor job of it because his mind is mush these days. "We don't know what the Max numbers are but here's an estimate based on ????????".

>>18291498
>does he every explain the contradiction here?
Never.

I think he’s including DVR and just saying DVR people must have went to MAX with no proof. The reality has always been AEW gets over a million in a week with DVR, and that’s not just trying to help AEW, WWE gets in the 2 millions with DVR so WWE still beats the shit out of them and no Milly is still about LIVE ratings because that’s what Tony would tweet bragging about. Dave is never ever clear what he’s talking about and never has proof and if 300k signed up for MAX to watch AEW(no clue why they would if their DVR still works perfectly fine) we’d have heard about it from AEW and MAX. I don’t think there’s some magical number hidden away on MAX but I do think every wrestling show on TV gets a noticeable bump from DVR numbers and I also think Dave is retardrd for trying to give all those to MAX and also DVR numbers get you zero new advertising dollars because those brands only want live viewership.

>>18291409 (OP)
>We don't know

Could have stopped there

>>18291475
Dave has intricate inside knowledge of a streaming service that no one else reports on but also didn’t know WWE was signing with Netflix
He’s full of shit

>>18291425
>we don't know but I can guess
WHAT ABOOT THE PLAYSTATION VUE NUMBAS, DAVE? EH?

>>18291440
hard to dispute this jpg

There's a BIG difference between live, live+1 or even live+7. I don't think Dynamite is doing a milly live but you can easily get a big number with live+1.

>>18291567
Yes, but you’re also a faggot if you’re talking live+ and not making that clear which is what Dave is doing repeatedly

>>18291409 (OP)
>millions of fans
Ah, so that's why they're wrestling in Mexican cantinas now

>>18291475
A guy working for WBD in a prominent position CONFIRMED that AEW gets 500k viewers on HBO MAX. His name? We call him Big BJ Bethel, the map who mindraped piggiE bitches.

>>18291409 (OP)
>we don't know
>we have no fucking idea
>no clue whatsoever
>so I'll just say 1 million

>>18291425
This is the face she makes when she shits on my chest

>>18291475
I have no doubt there are some international viewers that watch on MAX. Do I think it is around 500k? Nah. Only maybe NBA gets that. But the thing is AEW has always had international viewers; same with NXT. Meltzer is just trying to pull any numbers he can out of his ass since NXT started beating AEW in the only ratings that can actually be confirmed. KEK.

>>18291440
people who watch sports have cable packages, anon
aew fans by contrast are broke and can't afford live tv

>>18291498
Bryan asked him what you just asked and his response was classic Dave
> Bryan : it just doesn’t make sense , one show is selling out their NBA arena venues weekly and its number is “dying” according to you . The other show is struggling to sell tickets and somehow the number is thriving . According to you dynamite is viewed more than WWE
> Dave : I know it doesn’t make sense.
> Bryan : ……..

>>18291409 (OP)
Netflix's own released numbers indicate
>Smackdown averages 800k viewers per week (meaning live AND post broadcast viewership combined) while being available to the entire world besides America and NXT averages 200k viewers per week
Somehow, magically, with Max at less than half of the base subscriber base Netflix has, and by Dave's own admission that streaming audience's aren't trained to turn it to shows at specific times, Dynamite gets at minimum 3-400k live only viewers in a single country according to Dave

>>18292174
Max is also the least used streaming service vs netflix who only loses to youtube

>>18292172
So? Big Dave is able to read beyond what *does* make sense. That is what he is saying. Big Dave has insight that only someone like him, who has been working in this industry for 50+ years, can have. It's Big Dave. He is always right. Bryan Alvarez is a nobody. No one cares about what Alvarez has to say. This is all about Big Dave. This is Big Dave's world, baby. Bryan is just livin' it in.

>>18292172
Bryan finally realising aew is a cult

>>18291475
Also, let's say that theoretically Max did make AEW thousands of new fans, then why has the attendance been down across the board?

>>18292257
ppv attendance seems up. all out and forbidden door are selling well compared to double or nothing earlier in the year

>Edophiles are melting down over this
LMAO damn it feels good to be ELITE

>>18291409 (OP)
>We don't know
Meltzer for the past five years in a nutshell. Should have stopped here.

>>18292276
Its been an extra bad week for Edrones

>>18292290
No 600k

>>18291440
Aew gets 16 times more viewers than the NBA the pendulum has swung

>>18292290
Screen on and mirror away fatty

>>18292257
>attendance been down across the board
Man, you E-drones are so fucking disingenuous. We just filled a stadium in Texas with over 30k people. Meanwhile your little "Evolution 2" PPV flopped so hard that it lost to some joshipedo promotion, didn't it? And you have the gall to talk about attendances?

Did you already forget? Elimination Chamber this year was selling so fucking badly that Nicketty Khan BEGGED, yes he BEGGED, Dwyane THE COCK Johnson and Travis FUCKED YOUR MUM Scott to show up and save the company. Then all that dumbfuckery led to the worst Wrestlemania main event of all time. Your company became an object of mockery. We all laughed at you. All because YOU piggiE bitches were struggling to sell tickets at Elimination Chamber.

So you don't get to talk about attendance counts. You just don't. EliteTITANs sold over 30k tickets without needing a movie star and nigger rapper to bring in the normies. We sold those tickets to REAL wrestling fans. Sit down, little boi. I just dropped some TRUTH SUPERNOVAS on ya ass. You got cooked by facts and logic.

>>18292326
HOLY BASED

>>18292326
COOK THAT PIG
(UH HUH)
COOK THAT PIG
(I LIKE IT)
COOK THAT PIG
(HE'S COOKED Y'ALL)

>>18292326
damn...
there is no coming back from this one

>>18292326
smelled like pork in here
i see it was this post huh
you cooked that pig

>>18291475
MAX has 120 million subscribers worldwide. It's not USA only. An extra 300,000 really isn't that difficult. UK viewers alone are probably 150,000.

>>18292326
kek
based

>>18292366
Stop the cap

>>18292326
this
e-drones are seething because even the most pro-wwe podcasters and e-celebs admitted that all in texas was better than wrestleslopia
this destroyed their narrative that only big dave shilled aew

>>18292366
Subscribers are one thing. People watching is another. This is only for US

>According to Nielsen data for June 2025, YouTube is the most-watched streaming service in the US by percentage of total TV viewership.
YouTube held 12.8% of the total TV viewership, followed by Netflix at 8.3%.
>Disney+, Hulu, and ESPN+ combined for 5% of viewership.
>Amazon Prime Video accounted for 3.5%.
>Other streaming services include The Roku Channel, Paramount+, Tubi, and Peacock.

>>18291475
Dave STUDIES and READS so obviously he can calculate what the viewers are for streaming and it just happens to be that the company whose EVPs are his friends have millions of viewers while the company that treats him like a retard is losing viewers. And if you have an issue with that, you're obviously a grifter who wants AEW to fail because his friends watch on streaming, so that's definitive proof Because anecdotal evidence is the best evidence.

>>18292172
> Dave : I know it doesn’t make sense.
Kek, how does anybody take this guy seriously?

>>18292257
Young people watching the show for free on MAX in 2025 now that AEW is no longer relegated to expensive boomer cable does not automatically translate into immediate ticket sales. AEW has to put on a good TV show every week and grow their weekly audience and turn casual viewers into fans willing to spend money on tickets and PPVs first.

They've done ok so far at navigating the TNT to MAX jump, I'm sure plenty of new people are watching their show now that they're on streaming, I know I'm one of them. But I usually don't watch the shows live. I still haven't bought a PPV. It isn't even that good of a show that I'd recommend it to anyone who doesn't already love wrestling. These next 2 years are extremely important to AEW's future. It's nut cutting time. Gotta leave the silliness and the poor production errors behind.

No more cramming 59 different wrestlers onto every episode of TV in endless run-ins, rushed paint-by-numbers backstage beatdowns which segue into 8 man tags that end with various factions running in and fighting, and none of it recapped or allowed to breathe before yet another high-octane beatdown happens between a completely different set of people unrelated to any seen before on the show, with none of this referenced after it happens whatsoever and often not followed up on for weeks at a time.

They've been better than they used to at this where it felt like 95% of the roster was seen once or twice a month or less, but it's still just too many people coming and going randomly. Just need more consistency and an informal roster split. Keep the Paragon shit on Collision, decide which shows are going to feature what hierarchy of talent and build from there. As is it's always just too fucking random and rushed feeling.

>>18292326
>WWE's Evolution 2 event in State Farm Arena, Atlanta, Georgia on July 13, 2025, is expected to draw a crowd of approximately 8,351 fans. This figure is based on the seating configuration of 12,785, with 10,731 tickets distributed, according to FOX 5 Atlanta. The event is a special WWE Network event focusing on women's wrestling.

10,000 tickets sold, only 8,000 showed up. I guess they realized it was women's wrestling and stayed home.

>>18292413
>8000 showed up
Thats 4 Trannymites.

>>18291530
No matter how hard Dave tries to convince people otherwise, he will always be biased towards AEW. He cherry picks his data because he has an idea first, then finds data to support that idea. It's like that graph that showed the comparison in viewers for AEW from this year to last year but it conviently leaves out a fiscal quarter and it's within a certain demo instead of total viewers. Or when he talked about the fake "internal memo" that turned out to be an estimate from someone in a message board. Dave was jumping the gun on putting that out as evidence because it supported AEW instead of doing the basic thing that any actual journalist would do and find the source of the information.

>>18292438
Sorry, but it got trounced by All In. We won't be seeing another Evolution for many years. WWE humiliated again.

>>18292326
BAAH GAWD
SOMEBODY STOP THE DAMN MATCH
HE BROKE THE PIGGIES IN HALF

Loads of people gave up cable so I can believe it. Sports doesn't do big numbers on streaming services because the stream is always behind. Not good when you have money on games and shit, but no big deal for wrestling. AEW likely doing at least 250-300k every week on MAX and that's a fact Jack

>>18292513
I like watching NXT on my antenna because I’m way ahead of cablecucks and streamtrannys

>>18291475
piracy people? if you have hbo max then you don't need shitty illegal streams and there are a lot of them.

wowe

>>18292513
>250-300k extra every week
>still no milly
KWAB

>>18292172

>>18292326
OH NONONONONO
THIS DESTROYED THE PIGGIES

>>18291409 (OP)
How much did Tony pay him in "consultant fees" to post this?

If the NBA can only get ~20-30,000 live viewers on HBO Max, there's no fucking way AEW is getting 500,000 additional viewers through streaming. Meltzer already shot down this rumor before. Why would he suddenly change his tune on this?

>>18292326
>We just filled a stadium in Texas with over 30k people.
>We
First, you aren't part of AEW, you fat mark

Second, All In Texas didn't "fill" a stadium. They literally had to tarp off half of the available seats. The venue was at half capacity at most, and didn't even sell out. It was a massive bomb compared to attendance at the All In shows in London.

I'm not even reading the rest of what you posted because it's just babbling autistic nonsense.

>aewtist believes the event that had 15k tickets distributed one week before the show "sold" another 15k in the last week

>>18296857
Not reading your schizobabble ya oinkin piggiE bitch, lmao! Ya got mindraped by ALL IN TEXAS. Oink more.

>>18292326
>We just filled a stadium in Texas with over 30k people

>>18296857
Kek, this piggiE-drone is oinkin'
He bubblin'

>>18291409 (OP)
Does this include the people at the Casa Bonita?

>>18296904
KEK

>>18291425
>What are the numbers, Dave?
>So you don't know?
>You tell me.
>We don't know.

What's his source for those numbers?
HBOMAX themselves or someone like Tony Khan?
I could say they had a 2 million viewers the same way he does.

>>18297371
Big BJ

I watch on MAX every week