No console wars please: Why isn’t she succeeding the way Giulia, Stephanie, etc. did?

>>18305711 (OP)
I mean just look at that face lmao

>>18305711 (OP)
cos she's a mark

>>18305711 (OP)
Because she is generic blonde #49873098750387

>>18305719

>>18305711 (OP)
Giulia and Stephanie started wrestling right away. Mariah mostly doing skits.

Toni Storm made

>>18305733
both cases can be true, it's so fucking strange how someone with a face like Stephanie's has so many simps who see her as some sex symbol lol

>>18305744
She has a pretty face, shame about the huge ass.

>>18305711 (OP)
I'm real fucking tired of stupid ass niggas going "WHY HASN'T SHE BEATEN RHEA ALREADY" on bitches that have had 1 match on the show

>>18305711 (OP)
She was never over, Toni was over.

>>18305760
She was over with Japanese.

>>18305711 (OP)
Jesus what a busted face

>>18305711 (OP)
Bryan said it best

https://youtube.com/shorts/L3ZgTISTGU0?si=LGjq6_3L9ioyihVP

Her gimmick is nonsense

>>18306295
man, Bryan looks & sounds so fed up with everything

>>18307369
what Micheal (Mike) does to a mf

>>18305711 (OP)
No Toni Storm there to give her character meaning.

>>18306295
>when she was in AEW, they atleast pushed her as a serious top heel
He's right about that...except he doesn't tell you how long it took for that to happen. She was a goof until she finally got to kill Toni Storm. The majority of her first year on the roster was feuding with nobodies and doing goofy lesbo shit.
If this is still happening a year from now, it's a fumble. But it's been a month and they're introducing you to the character. It's exactly where she was when she started in AEW.

>>18305711 (OP)
they weirdly made her a face, shell probably do well from now on if they actually book her as the mean girl shes supposed to be

>>18305711 (OP)
>No console wars please
But in all sincerity that's the only reason she "isn't succeeding."
>Debuts to a big reaction
>Debut match is a ppv main event
>Pins the NXT champion
>Is promoted during SNME
>Gets given a prominent role and moment at Evolution
>Speedruns through a babyface program to set up the heel run everyone was already anticipating and wanted her to be doing so WWE has their own background for her and reasoning that doesn't have to acknowledge AEW
>Has her first big feud underway with Jordynne Grace
This is all within not even 2 months of her being there. There isn't a single thing wrong with her booking or character or any of that. Sure there's gonna be people who aren't a fan but other than that the only reason people are down on it is because they're wanting it to fail and they need it to in order to fit their narrative of being mad that she left AEW for WWE. Be it smarks or talking heads like Alvarez who profit off driving discourse like that
She's gonna be fine

>>18305711 (OP)
Ugly

>>18306295
Another expert buries Blake

https://youtu.be/RClm9weQCHM?si=JMWtzBHoboyX2i9v

Why did they not just have her debut in the main roster as a top heel for smackdown or raw?

>>18307739
Twittertards and Redditors hyping her up doesn't make her valuable enough to debut on the main roster

>>18307429
Look at that crowd reaction. Wow.

>>18307739
They JUST called up Giulia, Roxanne, and Vaquer with rumors of Jordynne Grace on the way. NXT needed at least one heavy hitter to fill out that space which she's done exactly that so far. Plus she came in at the start of June. That's two months out from Summerslam with most of the big feuds going on around that already pretty deep into their stories. Iyo and Rhea have their thing which Naomi just became a part of. Roxanne has her thing with the Judgment Day. Jade has her match with Tiffany. Becky and Bayley and Lyra have their thing going. Anywhere that you could slot her into would just be a midcard title spot which at that point would be worse than placing her at the top of NXT

>>18305711 (OP)
She looks 10 years older than she is

>>18307879
no shit she is british

>>18305744

>>18305711 (OP)
Because the gimmick that got her to World Championship status is literally unusable in the sanitized environment of the Fed. Everything that made her a big deal she isn't allowed to use.
It's like signing Rey Mysterio but telling him he needs to take off the mask.

>>18305711 (OP)
they stuck her with jordynne grace who is total antidimes. you can't do a lesbian angle where one of them is ugly i'm sorry you just can't.
i don't watch AEW but i really get the feeling that toni was the michaels.
also ghoulia flopped too don't worry.

>>18308328
oh she HAS to make out to get over? Wow how talented

Blake Monroe

>>18305740
>immediately copying the mariah/toni storyline
wwe fucking sucks lmao

>>18305711 (OP)
>Why
I mean we already know why. She became a global sensation when she was in AEW. Clearly she has the potential and the talent. But then she went to NXT and she flopped. This is NXT's fault. NXT can sign gold and still manage to turn it into turd.

Well, we AEWgods have already forgotten all about her anyways. We got the Toxic Spider, THEKLA now. Yeah, so. You know. We don't care about Mariah GAY anymore. Yeah. We got a new toy now. Uh-huh. Yeah, that's right. Thekla is way better than this Mariah slut anyways. Give us 1 year and we will turn Thekla into a bigger than the Mariah. Easy work for us EliteTITANs. Yep.

>>18308370
this is such a stupid fucking name
mariah monroe was right there

>>18307429
The problem is, when she got to AEW many did not know her even though she was in Stardom so it was more tolerable for her to start at the bottom. When she left AEW she was pretty well known due to her feud with Toni.
To treat her like a new rookie with no prior experience and put her in wrestling academy is pretty disrespectful, WWE has no excuse for this.
Even Vaquer who had a less known carreer than May was called immediately to the main roster.

>>18308389
Anon are you OK? What are you mumbling about? Have the voices returned? The meds should be on the left side of your desk.

>>18308340
Yes that's why she got over, you expect a serious response to your low IQ comment?

>>18305711 (OP)
She has been there for one month
One month

>>18308305
That isn't her actual face though. That's some instagram or tiktok filter they all use to make themselves look better

>>18308434
And it's been dull. Good work rushing her on to TV and not knowing who or what shes supposed to be.

>>18308328
Forget unusable. Why would WWE want to do the EXACT same thing as AEW anyway? Better yet why do fans want to see the exact same thing? I loved her AEW run but we've seen it now. We don't need to run it back all over again. I'm completely in favor of her mixing it up and doing something else. I was even fine with her as a face. It's hilarious that the same people crying how she isn't doing the exact thing she was in AEW are for the most part the same ones calling her a Toni Storm ripoff in the same breath

>>18308391
And Mariah Monroe would've gotten the same eye roll as Ricky Saints and still leave people calling her Mariah May out of habit the same way everyone nearly calls him Ricky Starks still. If you're going to rebrand it makes more sense to full rebrand than to half ass it like that. Mariah Monroe is an Impact Zone name. Blake Monroe is a rebrand

>>18305711 (OP)
Unironically carried by Toni and RJ City

>>18305711 (OP)
she was always mid. Toni elevated her.

>>18308498
I disagree on it being dull. I've enjoyed it. Also they clearly know what she's supposed to be. That's why they ran through the face run and Jordynne alliance so they could quickly build something for her to stab in the back. In one month she came in, got the big warm reception, ran with it and had her debut match in a ppv main event, and the night later stabbed her partner in the back and established who she is which is what everyone expected her to be in the first place

>>18308517
This would be true if Toni hasn't completely floundered since their story ended and her writing hasn't completely fallen off a cliff
>THIS THUNDER THIGHS THAT'S BEEN FLANDERIZED

>>18308532
>In one month she came in, got the big warm reception, ran with it and had her debut match in a ppv main event, and the night later stabbed her partner in the back and established who she is which is what everyone expected her to be in the first place
This. It's called telling a story. Which I'm not surprised aewtismos wouldn't understand. Instead of just expecting all of their viewers to automatically know she's an evil human or assuming they've seen some random internet lore, WWE played out a quick story to establish and reveal her as being one so you could actually watch it play out

>>18305711 (OP)
Thekla is 100x more over than Mariah right now, and wrestling in front of more people

Everyone is excited to see her murder Wren on Tuesday

>>18308572
>Thekla
>over
>100x more over than Mariah
>wrestling in front of more people
kekla

>>18305711 (OP)
Steph’s got a fat arse and meaty thighs, Ghulia is a cute hapa. Mariah is a bloke thirsty for fame

>>18308417
Huh? Did you say something to me? Oh, okay. Yeah. Uh-huh. Yep. It's about Thekla now. What? Maria? Maria Hayes? Who? Uhhhh...No. Huh?? Yeah, no. Yep, we have Thekla now.

>>18308572
>and wrestling in front of more people
More people? At the Taco Bell?

>>18308666
Oh no........

>>18308666
>we have Thekla now
This is maybe the saddest cope yet. No one gives a FUCK about Thekla

>>18308715
I do.

>>18308737
nah

>>18308737
Because when I care about a wrestler the first thing I'm going to do is use them as a console warring pawn and needlessly compare them to someone whose shoes they will never fill

>>18305711 (OP)
Temu Tiffy
Simple as

>>18308861
Bait

>>18308542
Cope

>>18305711 (OP)
Look man, I'm an E-drone but even I don't watch NXT anymore. Most of the NXT shitters end up getting released anyways. I still remember when they hyped up Indi Hartwell and her little love story with that guy who's now in Wyatt Sicks. It was even like a main event of a NXT episode and everything. What happened? Bitch got released. No one gives a shit about her anymore other than the losers who coom to her OnlyFans. Didn't they also make a huge deal out of Carmelo Hayes? What happened? He turned out be a mid-card shitter. Cora Jade? People thought she was going to be a huge deal because CM Punk fucks her ass and Bron Breakker creampied her. She was supposed to sleep her way to the top of the mountain. What happened? Another slut lost to OnlyFans.

Now look, I'm not saying whoever this blonde slut is will end up the same way. Maybe she is actually good. But if she manages to make it to the big leagues of Raw and Smackdown, then you can come back and we can talk about her. Until then, she's a nobody. We already have a young blonde girl on Smackdown anyways and she is pretty good. Tiffy got herself over very quickly and she is popular among the young girls below the age of 12, you know, the kind you guys coom to. Anyways, Tiffy has a target audience that buys her merch and cheers for her. That is why she is a success. NXT shitters need to learn from her.

>>18309085
that makes way too much sense
you are supposed to be console warring on this board ya newbitch
nobody will read all that

>>18305711 (OP)
Mariah's gimmick was much sexier than WWE would ever allow Blake to be.

>>18309085
>NXT sucks and there's no one good in it
>Let me suck Tiffany Stratton's cock
>Tiffany Stratton who came from and was built entirely in NXT

>>18305711 (OP)
>guilia
>succeeded
Kek good one, with a name like Julia she was always DOA. Blake will be fine. Didn't she just have her first match last week?

>>18305711 (OP)
>Giulia, Stephanie, etc. did
They aren't, especially Giulia. And to answer your question WWE cant build anyone, Cody only succeeded because he was already main event ready made out of AEW

>>18309224
Stephanie is doing fine

>>18305711 (OP)
She hasn't done anything

>>18308434
And it's been horrible.

>>18309261
So dramatic

>>18305711 (OP)
WHO

>>18308953
No need to sign your post

>>18305711 (OP)
who the fuck is blake monroe? should have kept her mariah may name

>>18312593
so you do know

>>18305711 (OP)
Throw the nose down the well
So my country can be free

>>18306295
>>18307429
>when she was in AEW, they atleast pushed her as a serious top heel
wasnt she still shaking her tits with mina after turning heel? do they consider toni and mercedes to be serious characters?

>>18313512
>wasnt she still shaking her tits with mina after turning heel
she sure was. more of them trying to rewrite how her aew run went just like they tried to say tony booked her as some super prestigious champion

>>18308542
the fuck? toni has continued to get by on her gimmick as always. she's over as fuck.

>>18313560
more matches than Sky

>>18308589
Wrenfren here we are not

>>18313730
neither of them should be blamed for their respective bookers booking their title reigns like shit

>>18313736
Kek my condolences in advance Wrenfren. Unless they use the match to have Jordynne interfere and cost Monroe the match as a receipt for costing her at Evolution then I fear it's going to be a massacre. Her services don't go unappreciated

>>18313727
I never said she isn't still over. But look at the quality of work since the Hollywood Ending. She had a nothing paint by numbers feud with Bayne. She had a re-run angle with Mina just so they could get footage of them without Mariah in it. Even to the point of redoing the post-match kiss. And then there's the abortion of a feud with Mercedes. Her promos have dwindled down to nothing but repetitive catchphrases and tiresome sex jokes and vaginal references. She used to cut actual promos with those things sprinkled in. Now it's innuendos with a side of promo. Her writing has gotten extremely lazy and she had her worst promo to date with the Timeless character this past Wednesday. I watch the shows anon

>>18305711 (OP)
Is that a tranny?

>>18313845
you sound interested

>>18313814
all of these things are more issues with AEW than with Toni imo. it reads like a mad libs criticism of nearly any wrestler on their roster that had a hot feud and what happened after

>>18313910
I agree. I like Toni. I think she's done an incredible job with the gimmick which is why I am so critical of the way it's gone and how far it's fallen off since then. It's not at all unlike what happened to Mariah's title reign. The same way once Hangman won the title the first time it felt like they had zero follow up planned out either. It is a very repetitive issue with AEW and it sucks that it seems to be hitting even Toni now

>>18305711 (OP)
Posters here have explained it better. My two cents: smarks watch NXT, correct? At least that's the thing i get told repeatedly (tony fumbled chants, the fans popping for wrestlers who jumped ship from aew even though they say they don't watch it, etc.) Yet, Mariah May can't use her real and recognized name and instead saddled with BLAAAAAYKE Monroe like she just popped out of nowhere, we're supposed to recognize her yet she has a completely different name than she did just a few months ago so it's not really her? You want to pander to the smarks? OK then, but don't give them a stupid name to work with. If you wanted to trademark her name, then you might as well just brought her to the main roster as Blake Monroe. The kids wouldn't have been the wiser, and if raw and SD fans are all causal viewers dishing out hundreds of dollars a week to watch coconut theater, they would gladly have accepted a blonde wrestler popping out of nowhere to challenge for the belt. Pick a lane.

it's because her gimmick is basically Toni but without any humor, so it just comes across creepy and Weinsteinish

>>18308434
Her literal 1st segment in AEW instantly established her character & direction for her entire run.

It was a 2-minute long backstage promo.

It's very funny to me that each AEWtist demands you know all 19 of their pronouns but can't seem to handle one wrestler's name change without sperging the fuck out

>>18313993
it's not just AEWtists that think Blake is a shit name

>>18313971
>It was a 2-minute long backstage promo.
It was one minute kek. And she had a vignette in NXT that did exactly that too while introducing the new name
The week before that on her actual debut she cut a promo that established her character and direction as well
What's your point?

>>18313931
yeah frankly this is my biggest beef with AEW. it produces great moments that seem like natural momentum, and then nothing is done with those moments.

>>18314009
If she was in AEW as Blake Monroe and went to WWE and changed her name to Mariah May I promise you the reactions would be the exact same as they are now. It's reeks of actual autism

>>18313961
>it's because her gimmick is basically Toni
In what way is her gimmick now in any way like Toni Storm? Have you seen Timeless Toni Storm before? Is Blake Monroe coming to the ring in black and white? Is she cutting promos in old timey transatlantic voice? Is she making constant references to her pussy? Go on and explain how

>>18313993
kek it do be like that

>>18314030
I disagree. had she always been Blake monroe, and that's how people were introduced to her, the change to Mariah May would be less jarring because Blake Monroe isn't a good name.the consolewarfags would try to shit on it regardless, sure. but they aren't even really human anyways.

>>18314094
The only reason you question the name though is because you've been calling her Mariah May for the past however many years. That's the point you're missing. You say the name Dolph fucking Ziggler without thinking twice. People are even used to the Copester by now. This shit is, has, and will always be 100% reactionary and performative. People cried when Kevin Owens changed his name. People cried when Finn Balor changed his name. People cried when they first heard Daniel Bryan too. And guess what? Each time the world kept fucking turning and eventually everyone got used to each one of them the same way they will with Blake Monroe. Plenty of people already have

>>18314130
this for sure. no one even thinks to call him walter anymore but holy hell was there a bunch of fake hysteria when he announced his name change

>her gimmick is that she's hot
NXT has like twenty girls like that. If she has an angle she had better start playing it up.

>>18314130
High quality post

>>18314018
>established her character

She literally just turned because her character FLOPPED so hard lmfao

>>18314130
You're literally crying over people mocking WWE slavenames lmao

>>18314224
except her gimmick is clearly that she's a self-indulgent backstabber who uses people for her own gain. if you think she's hot you can just say she's hot

>>18314246
>WWE slavenames
>Cope™
Wanna try that again?

>>18314248
>except her gimmick is clearly that she's a self-indulgent backstabber who uses people for her own gain
You just described every female heel ever.

>>18309205
>>18309224
Women's midcard title holder making these bongs seethe

>>18313727
you're arguing with mariah man's single lone simp

>>18314246
>She literally just turned because her character FLOPPED so hard lmfao
of all the retarded takes in this thread this might just be the dumbest. everyone with two brain cells expected her to come in as a heel. her vignettes screamed heel character from the start. the entire jordan grace thing was just them speeding through building her an alliance that she could turn on to actually establish her as a heel so she'll get booed instead of just throwing her out there and telling you she's a bad guy expecting people to not like her for no reason

Remember that moron talking about how invested WWE are in this slag because they made her change her name and theme song which apparently means WWE wants to push you?

>>18314267
exception that proves the rule

>>18314296
So you're saying WWE sucks at storytelling? Yeah we know.

>>18305711 (OP)
She mogged Toni Storm (not difficult) and was the pretty one to the point she was carrying Storm whilst being featured in the only real women's storyline AEW had the always got plenty of TV time. None of that is happening in NXT. She moggs Roidyanne and is turning on her but so does every other woman and there are plenty of them getting TV time.

>>18314489
>so you're saying
>(person didn't say anything like that)
You sound like that noodle-haired stupid bitch feminist from the UK

>>18305711 (OP)
She hasn't even wrestled nigga

She came into NXT at a time where all its good talent left. They'd best move her up ASAP

>>18305711 (OP)
She hasn't even had a singles match on NXT yet nigga, calm down

>>18314935
I have literally no idea what the fuck you're talking about. Good luck with the brainrot lilbro.

>>18315181
Hasn't she been there for a month already? KWAB

desu i hate that entire bunch of indie hires, cept for Zaria, she's ok.

I just want to see #greygraps on tv more desu :/

Toni carried her

>>18314130
performative? what's with all the faggy buzzwords? Cope is a shit name, Blake is a shit name. that's not me being performative. obviously as time passes, the new names come naturally. it doesn't change the fact that Blake is a shit name for Mariah May.

>>18314246
>make informative post
>DUDE YOU CRYIN!
Kill yourself retard

>>18316081
Correct on both points. Too much consolewar faggotry's clouding their brains, anon.

>>18316092
Nothing about your post was informative. Lead by example.

>>18315393
>Hasn't she been there for a month already? KWAB
She debuted in AEW November 2023. Her first match in AEW was in January 2024

>>18316741
And she still managed to have a more established character + direction than NXT? Is HickenBOTTOM the worst booker ever?

>>18308641
>>18308678
Kek

>>18305711 (OP)
Giulia is succeeding.....KEK

>>18316761
Within those first two months in AEW? No the hell she did not. You clearly didn't see them if you're saying this. She's done more in WWE and has more of an established identity in the month and a half she's been there than she did in AEW

>>18316780
why are you spamming this cope lmao

>>18316780
She had them within her first 2 minutes of appearing on camera.

>She's done more in WWE and has more of an established identity

Piggies lie more comfortably than they breathe.

>>18316791
He isn't wrong though
First 2 months in AEW
>Shows up as a Toni fan girl backstage
>Chases Toni around backstage
>Follows Toni around to the ring
>Cuts all of one promo the week before her in-ring debut
>First singles match next
First 2 months in WWE
>Arrival to NXT with a big reaction
>Vignettes promoting her character and new name
>Entire show focuses around her contract signing and her feud with Fatal Influence starts
>Aligns herself with Jordynne Grace
>Has her in-ring debut in a ppv main event
>Pins the NXT champion
>Promoted on SNME
>Featured on Evolution where she turns on Grace
>First singles match next
I don't give a shit about all of the name stuff but she's miles ahead of where she was in AEW by this point in her WWE run

>>18316822
>developmental

fucking lmao it's hilarious how you're clinging to this apples-to-oranges shit.

>pins the NXT Champion

And it means nothing because she just turned heel to feud with a TNA refugee lmao.

>>18316881
>apples-to-oranges
How so? Both NXT and AEW are WWE's developmental

>>18316887
If you're going to be a clown, don't be surprised when nobody takes you seriously.

>>18316899
If you're going to be butthurt over the truth, don't be surprised when nobody listens to your version of it.

>>18316933
Explains why nobody's buying into the headcanon you're screeching everywhere lmao.

At least you never even tried disputing that Mariah's big win over the 5th-most important women's champion in her promotion means nothing.

>>18305711 (OP)
She's literally had 1 match.

>>18316973
>At least you never even tried disputing that Mariah's big win over the 5th-most important women's champion in her promotion means nothing.
>Explains why nobody's buying into the headcanon you're screeching
Kek

>>18315393
Well, you're a retarded faggot foreigner who doesn't follow US news and trends, so that would explain it
Takes 10 seconds to google "so you're saying meme" but you're too much of a lazy faggot to even do that

>>18308389
Yupp

>>18305711 (OP)
Because she kind of sucks

Giulia's a champ, this man isn't

>>18316822
Oh boy she got vignettes I'm sure she's gonna be a big star

this demented simp will do the most insane amounts of mental gymnastics for his waifu, it's quite sad to see over the past couple of years seeing someone defend a wrestler that doesn't know they exist on.....4chan

>>18319395

>>18319407
Yes you will cry about consolewarring when you're defending your crush but deep down you're an aewtistic simp

>>18319403
you've stalked an anon's posts for years who doesn't even know you exist... on 4chan? there's definitely one demented simp doing mental gymnastics here. i hope your /pw/ waifu notices you

>>18319432
>stalked
>projecting this hard
is it stalking like how you've followed some british tart on twitter for years and tried to unsuccessfully shill her on a mongolian basket weaving forum whilst developing a parasocial relationship?

>>18319423
Holy boogieman

>>18319449
>whilst developing a parasocial relationship
i don't know who you are but i see your grasp on irony is looser than your butthole after mariah blake or whoever she is these days is done with you

>>18319454
>>18319489

>>18319454
SARRRRR PLSSSS WRESTLING THE BOOGIEMAN SCARY

>>18305711 (OP)
Bogged bitch, already hurdling towards the wall. Also a huge mark for herself and the company, almost as bad as Mercedes. Just comes off as pathetic.

>>18305733
She’s a spicy Latina- Mariah’s a bong

Basically wwe never had plans for her they just didn’t want AEW to have her- the AEW guys they actually want go straight to the MR

>>18320594
>Basically wwe never had plans for her they just didn’t want AEW to have her- the AEW guys they actually want go straight to the MR
Steph or May?

>>18305711 (OP)
>Why isn’t she succeeding the way Giulia did?
Giulia succeeded?

>>18305775
>She was over with Japanese.
Are you uh....chat is this genuine?

>>18308407
>Even Vaquer who had a less known carreer than May was called immediately to the main roster.
What the fuck are you talking about?
Stephanie Vaquer was a double champion in NXT.

>>18318288
Yes, tell me more how I'm retarded for not knowing /pol/ brainrot lmao

>all the results are some Peterson shit from 7 years ago

wow the /pol/ cel is a giant loser stuck in the past, who knew

this bitch was overrated by tweetards and redditors

>>18319544
True

>Blake... Monroe
LMFAO

>>18319544
If she was a huge mark for herself she wouldn't have let them give her a slavename lmao

>>18325571
or taken a pay cut
She's more of a mark for WWE than she is for herself.

>>18325571
>>18325578
The Vaquer special

>>18305711 (OP)
bogged face

>>18305711 (OP)
>Carried by Mina and Club Venus in Japan
>Carried by Toni Storm in AEW
>no one to carry her now, fails miserably
you tell me