Thread 18307841

BIG DAVE FROM THE TOP ROPE

>>18307841 (OP)
Kek based gotta love Big Davester

>>18307841 (OP)
What polls Dave

>>18307841 (OP)
>poll after poll
Show me the polls, Dave.

>>18307841 (OP)
Dave keeps talking about these polls but never posts the source or results of a single one

>>18307855
No.

>>18307841 (OP)
Dave just pulling shit out of his ass, as always.

>>18307841 (OP)
I mean, folks... where's the lie?

>>18307841 (OP)
may I see the polls?

>>18307852
>>18307855
>>18307860
>>18307866
>>18307872
So, how's your sex life? Nonexistent, I bet. You're here 24/7 crying about AEW, after all.

>>18307882
Gonna cry?

>>18307882
'fraid so

>>18307882
Better than GayEW's ratings

>>18307841 (OP)
I don’t think dave wants to bring up tickets now that they’re doing residencies in 1000 seat theaters

>>18307841 (OP)
That part

>>18307897
Or ratings charts now that they are getting murked by HGTV

>>18307897
>WWE never did house shows

>>18307906
>comparing your flagship television program to house shows (which still sold like 4000 seats in bumfuck nowhere)
anon why are you like this?

Dave quadrupling down on the mythical Max viewership after that Netflix mid year report came out and completely shit on his headcanon has been hilarious

>>18307882
You're the one simping over some 70 year old divorced boomer who watches wrestling all day

>>18307841 (OP)
>ticket sales
Vindicated
>ratings charts
Vindicated
>profitability
Vindicated
>max viewership
hmmmm we’ll see :)

>>18307841 (OP)
>attendance and Tony bought all the tickets
We've been saying this for years

>>18307926
>that Netflix mid year report
What a worked mark.

People think that Dave is pro-AEW but he is just pro-truth. And the fact is that no other company has hundreds of dedicated spergs and liars generating fake news and cope about them as AEW does. Nobody cares about WWE enough to lie about it, but AEW makes the numbermonkeys go ballistic which forces Dave to have to correct their lies.

>>18307841 (OP)
>Nobody ever said Tony bought all the tickets, but he certainly bought some to pad the stats. 10,000 people dont just stay home
>Just because something charts high doesnt mean the ratings are good, just that their shit ratings are a bit better than the other shit ratings
>They have not turned a profit, not a single cent. They will have to make more than they spend for a few years to dig themselves out of the 5 years running at a loss and the initial $100 million before they can claim a profit.
>WBD already told us the most watched NBA game peaked at 48,000 viewers. AEW does not draw 10 times what the NBA does, no matter what Meltzer says.

Dave's entire justification for "Poll after Poll says" is the polls he sends out to his subscribers. Not only is that such a limited number to have no statistical significance, he is talking about people so retarded they pay him $15 a month. That is the definition of a biased sample.

>>18307841 (OP)
does he just ignore the ratings and empty buildings or what? Like everyone else I don’t listen to or read his schizobabble

>>18307957
facts

>>18307841 (OP)
They aren't making any money. The only real money coming in is the tv deal. The shows aren't making a dime and I doubt the money from the tv deal per year is enough to cover:
>Contracts
>Employee wages
>Licensing fees for music
>Building rent
>Travel
>Etc.

>>18307841 (OP)
The show has gone down in ratings, and in attendance, but Dave and Tony want to tell you it's a success. How does that work? They want to tell you it is financially viable but no one knows how much money Tony spent before getting a TV deal, or how much he continues to spend, so there is nothing to prove it. Tony set out to be the opposite of WWE in terms of transparency with the fans and people around wrestling. He has become the same thing and worse. This is the guy hitting people with NDA's. This is the guy having people reporting videos to Youtube and issuing takedown notices.

>>18307957
>Nobody cares about WWE enough to lie about it
Well dave does.

>>18307841 (OP)
Tony buys all the tickets, only one show left to be cancelled over bad ratings, AEW makes no money and no one is watching on MAX.
Anything else, raped bitch?

>>18307841 (OP)
How do you respond to Big Dave without sounding mad?

>>18307852
He asked a few of his friends and they said they watch MAX which equates to 6 million overall viewership. I don’t know why it’s so hard to understand these facts.

How is Dave wrong about literally everything? Who would pay for this shit

>>18307882
Probably better than yours

>>18307957
>People think that Dave is pro-AEW
Tony calls Dave every day telling him what script to say. He's literally just a jewish mouthpiece that marks like you simp over.
>is just pro-truth
Is that why he's never said a negative thing about AEW after being on the payroll?

Tony might not have investors to lie to but he has an old jewish guy who worked thousands of smarks into thinking he's the go-to guy when it comes to pro wrestling and I bet Tony feels more pressure from meltzer than he would felt from an investor

>>18307994
that's all just your fat schizophrenic headcanon I'm afraid

>>18307980
I just laugh at the demented schizo smark

>>18307957
>he is just pro-truth

>>18307961
Dave's on the AEW payroll. He would never bring light to the continually small crowds. The fact that he never mentioned the Mexican arena booking is evidence.

>>18308001
You're the one simping over some e-celeb jewish liar. AEW trannies really are this dumb.

I just now realized that shills are being paid to spam this board.

>>18307994
If you weren't scared of listening to Meltzer you'd already be aware that he criticizes them all the time

>>18307841 (OP)
where are the poll results

>>18308013
>pay 15 dollars a month to have dave reprint thurston's numbers and wresletix spreadsheets
>he can't even read them

>>18308027
The "ToneZone" thread that gets bumped with one word posts every 3 to 4 hours didn't tip you off?
>>18308034
Keep simping over your favorite e-celeb jew, retard.

>>18308013
>making a mistake means you don't care about truth
Just stop lying about people

>>18307841 (OP)
>poll after poll has said different
What polls are he talking about?

>>18308048
>>18308039
The polls that Tony gives him because Dave is on the AEW payroll to be told what to say.

>>18307942
>>ticket sales
>Vindicated
Tony has been caught lying about attendance multiple times
>ratings charts
>Vindicated
See above
>profitability
>Vindicated
Not verified

>>18308039
They are emails Dave sends to his retarded subscriber base. I could ask 1500 homeless people if they would like a hot dog, and if most of them say yes, that means hot dogs are the most popular food in America!

That is how absurd Dave's claim is.

>>18308034
You're not very good at trolling are you

Are polls on the wrestling observer message board considered scientific?

I watch on the Maxster and I'm not the only one

the drones that obsess over HBO Max ratings are the same ones that sent death threats to SambaTV over them accurately reporting how fucking terrible Raw on Netflix is doing lmao

>>18308083
Wanting proof isn't obsessing. You're the one obsessing over the fake 500k number that's been the same every eeek for the past 8 weeks in a row.

>>18307959
>They will have to make more than they spend for a few years to dig themselves out of the 5 years running at a loss and the initial $100 million before they can claim a profit.
Exactly. They lost about 70 million last year. So 5 times seventy million is 350 million. Plus another 100 makes 450 million. It's going to take a long ass time

>>18308089
>wanting proof
for what? oh right, for your obsession. get a life, and stop watching a PG slop program for kiddies, ya fat creep

>>18308083
just show the poll results and the pain will end

>>18308101
>for what?
Your lies.

You keep shilling this magical 500k number that's never been proven. Over 8 weeks straight of "500k" that's never gone up and never gone down once.

We're just sick of your fucking lies.

>>18308091
Not the chance they'll be around long enough for that. Chances are they don't make it to 2027 at this rate of decline

No Meltzer cope will ever eclipse him saying AEW fans are simply too rich, hip, and happening to watch TV. That was the Austin 3:16 of Dave copes

>>18308070
Why do you think I'm trolling? I'm completely sincere

>>18307957
dave reported the rock and hhh were building a feud because he saw a 2014 smackdown clip on twitter and got confused

>>18308066
>They are emails Dave sends to his retarded subscriber base
This is such a bullshit way to gauge viewership, yet I totally believe Dave is doing it

>>18308069
Why do you lie about everything? Just stop lying. It's not hard.

>>18308112
you really need to seek professional help

It's quite literally a dimeless promotion. Literally cannot draw a dime. They will die having never made any money at all. Fucking kek

>>18308120
>although it was they would love to each other
Dave is a jeet now?

>>18307841 (OP)
what is this schizo going on about

Isn't NXT doing like 100k viewers on Netflix which is significantly bigger than HBO MAX?
Tiny R. Khan's slop is doing 10k at best.

>>18308128
>Just stop lying. It's not hard.

wrestling fans are bigger boomer than model train collectors

>>18308150
>since removed the inaccurate post
And the reason he did so? Because he cares about the truth.

>>18308133
People hate aew because of liars like you.

classic Dave

>>18308128
Dave lies about everything little simp.

He's unemployed. His entire business model is just pushing rumors and lies to marks like you.

>>18308161
That's not true. You hate AEW because you're a fucking loser and you have no life.

>>18308168
lmao

>>18308175
There's a difference between speculation, being being inaccurate and later correcting yourself, and lying. Dave does not lie, unlike you.

>>18308176
Imagine posting on 4chan all day defending some jew in a wrestling thread saying someone else doesn't have a life

>>18308168
mans cares about truth

>>18308083
Nobody sent emails to Samba you retard. If I remember correctly from.6 months ago, what happened was this:

1. You searched for something you could post to FEDBAD here
2. Other people here told you Samba is only reporting on I believe it was Samsung Smart TVs
3. It was only the Samsung Smart TV users who opted in to sharing their viewing content
4. By their own estimation, only about 12% of Samsung Smart TV users choose to opt in to that monitoring

All of this was easily available information once anybody here, who before you started posting about it, had never heard of Samba.

>>18307961
He’s just willfully obtuse. The attendance and tv ratings have continued their steady decline and they are implementing drastic cost cutting measures like running shows in the same El Torito for a month straight. Yet Dave clings to a few shreds of cope to try and believe that they are a wildly profitable company that has doubled their viewership since the move to streaming.

>>18308185
>cope, the post
These cultists really are unhinged. Dear leader Dave can do no wrong apparently.
>h-hes not lying, he speculated!
Absolutely pathetic.

>>18308185
should a journalist not check with sources before reporting? the backlash in tokyo tweet could have been avoided with one text in five minutes. he is a journalist right?

>>18307959
His refusal to come to terms with the fake small in number is one of those things that really reveals his bias. He really believes that 10k people bought tickets but decided not to attend. Either that 80k number is bullshit or Tony personally paid for 15% of the tickets to bump up the number, there’s no other way around it. But he was citing shit like convos with baseball executives as to how it’s totally normal for 10k to pay money out of their own pocket for something they have no intention of actually attending.

>>18308211
That's what he did. He did exactly what you're complaining he didn't do.

>>18308114
>TWO MORE WEEKS MUH FELLOW FED TROONS I'M SURE THIS TIME I BET MY NEOVAGINA ON IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

maybe /pw/ needs to btfo Dave again

>>18307973
Now type that without dilating

>>18308223
He's right though. Your argument is that people's opinions don't matter if they align with Meltzer. You're just wrong.

>>18308239
nigga wut

>>18308219
huh? He reported bad info without checking first and had to correct himself. That’s the opposite of how it works

>>18308118
This but replace "sincere" with "homosexual".

>>18308252
Dave cultists really are braindead.

>>18308258
Kek cooked that tranny pig

>>18308252
>he corrected himself
Because
He
Only
Cares
About
The
Truth

Meltzer simps are the lowest caste of the IWC

>>18308195
yes famously Nielsen has a box hooked up to every single device
jesus, you pigs are fucking stupid
and yeah for the record samba did have to stop doing ratings for wrestling in general because e-drones had such a melty over 664k day kek

>>18308219
He did AFTER he already reported the bullshit news, only after people started mocking him for it.

E-tards still trying to trash Samba. Meanwhile it's respected in the industry

>>18308265
why did he report it as fact before knowing if it was true?

>>18308265
Then why did he lie about aew being the #1 cable show when it was proven to be the 4th?

>>18308265
legitimate reporters don't post their sourceless headcanon as fact and then claim they're credible because after they find out that they're wrong, they report that too

>>18308271
>664k
what is it about this number specifically that made them so angry

>>18308279
>sourceless
he had a source he saw a random tweet and thought it was real kek

>>18308265
>report something as fact
>get debunked
>lie and say you care about the truth
>repeat until you die

I now understand the typical Davedrone. You guys are morons

>>18308290
bro you're seeing red because some guy online said something slightly negative about a PG (re: for literal children) show. evaluate your life.

Does anyone honestly think Dynamite has ever cracked 300k total viewers?

>>18308299
AEW (All Empty Wrestaurants) will be canceled by Christmas 2026.

Unconditional Meltzer victory ITT

>>18308269
Show me anywhere that says Samba was harassed and had to stop measuring, or is it just more madeup bullshit from you?

The entire point was the number of people with Samsung TVs that opted in to sharing their viewing habits is a bullshit sample size and you know it.

Netflix themselves release the same date, but for every viewer they have, not just people with Samsung TVs who choose to share.

>>18308299
I'm just laughing at how gullibly stupid the average Davedrone is

>>18307841 (OP)
Was amazing when Bryan asked him to explain why the increased max numbers were inversely proportional to attendance and he said he didn’t know lmao

>>18308312
The streets are saying this

>>18308299
>(re: for literal children)
The fact you constantly use this phrase but get worked here so hard about anything you don't like related to the same subject is a dictionary definition for projection. "Wrestling is for kids hurr durr." Then why are you watching it and participating in a niche forum devoted to it?

>>18308014
>The fact that he never mentioned the Mexican arena booking is evidence.
Because it's nothingburger that drones like you were having a meltdown for some autistic reason

>gets hacked by literal pajeet scammers
>davedrones still simp over this boomer retard
They're a lost cause like every other inbred tranny.

>>18308330
>having a show with less than 1000 people in attendance is a nothingburger
The average Davedrone, everybody.

>>18308271
So respected that no source is named on a random screenshot that could have been typed by literally anybody LOL!

Cripple really thinks there is a person named "Entertainment Strategy Guy"

>>18308325
wwe specifically is for kids. this is a pro wrestling board - which, given that, wwe probably shouldn't even be discussed here. but that's a different conversation. either way you really need psychological help.

>>18308122
It's less pathetic than referencing Cagematch ratings as an evidence about how hot AEW is.

>>18308325
I watch pro wrestling for adults you fucking moron

why come Dave isn't talking about Google trends lately

>>18307884
Of laughter that you don’t know what pussy feels like? I am actually.

>>18308064
See >>18307882

>>18308354
Clashes with what Tony tells him to say.

>>18308075
Your thousands alter-egos don't count, wheeltits.

>>18307841 (OP)
>they were going to get canceled over bad ratings
Rampage has already been canceled over bad ratings and Collision is circling the bowl.
>poll after poll
lel. Nice metric, Dave. By the way, can you point to any of these polls? Are they in the room with us right now?

>>18308187
So how's your sex life?

It's survey time

Which is more accurate? Judging Raw streaming numbers by Samba TV or judging Dynamite streaming numbers by Meltzer polling WON subscribers?

https://strawpoll.com/GJn446o63nz

>>18308380
We don't believe in democracy here

>>18308314
>Redditspacing
You have to go back.

>>18307957
>he is just pro-truth
Wow, so Shibata really had his brain removed and put back in?
>no other company has hundreds of dedicated spergs and liars generating fake news and cope about them as AEW does.
That's correct. And the spergs and liars, like you and Dave, are all on AEW's side.

>>18308145
NXT isn't available on the American Netflix

>>18308399
We're on the side of truth, and you're on the side of "I hate AEW so much I want to lie about them every day and never be corrected"

>>18308314
>bullshit sample size
>because.... BECAUSE IT JUST IS, OK????
seriously bro, consider getting a GED, learn how statistics work. it will do wonders for you in the long term, and give your fat ass something to do other than sitting around crying about AEW 24/7

>>18308267
Says the one defending an Israel-owned PG trash

>>18308414
>We're on the side of truth
You're liars on the side of lying, actually. That's why you keep lying I'm afraid.

>>18308428
Imagine trying to act all high and mighty when you're the one defending Paki-owned slop for literal gay retards kek

>>18308428
>complains about israel
>defends a literal lying jew

>>18308343
>WWE never ran house shows

>/pw/ has gone so insane with console wars anons are unironically simping Dave
Redditors are a plague

>>18308345
>psychological help.
Hilarious coming from a Meltzer subscriber.

>>18308351
All fake fighting are for kids even your obscure hipster show ya smelly lardass smark.

>>18308354
GMS

>>18308431
You are mentally ill and WWE will never be anything but a slop for retarded underage pigs.

>>18308486
>mentally ill
But enough about you and your entire family tree

>>18308447
uhhhhh aewbros just what exactly is going on here?

>>18308447
Seek help.

>>18308494
why do you like simulated gay blowjobs so much tho fr

>>18308503
>can't stop thinking about homosexuality
pig existence.

>>18308494
>trying to stalk me
>implying everybody who posts the same meme is the same person
Kek. You really aren't dodging the mental illness accusations.

>>18308510
Hey why do you simp for a company that keeps doing gay blowjob spots?

Pork with wheels having a hard time coping with the fact that TNA is ass raping AEW, can't blame him tbf if I was a AEW stan I would rope as well.

>>18308522
>E-Drone talking about stalking

>>18308510
>pig existence
kek I'm gonna start using that one

>>18308354
u tell me

>>18308543
yikes, look at those freaks
whatever happened to the E-Drone Crime general anyways?

>>18308543
>E-stalkers
Kek that's ironic because you're a literal e-stalker. Now search the archive for every instance of "kek" and pretend it's all me. You know you want to.

>>18308510
anon why are there so much man on man facehumping in aew tho? is this what the aew audience wants?

>>18308453
You have never established a single lie he has told. You've posted inaccuracies he's immediately corrected.

>>18308642
Dave lied about Shibata having his brain removed and I don't believe he ever "corrected" it.

>>18307882
they boiling over this one

>>18308655
How do you know it's an intentional lie?

>>18307976
We don’t sign our posts here

>>18308629
People don't call it GayEW for nothing. Between shit like you posted and the Toni stuff, it's obvious that AEW is targeting gay people

>>18308681
Because Dave isn't outrageously stupid enough to actually believe Shibata had his brain removed and put back in. Or are you saying Dave is that outrageously stupid?

>>18308701
So you don't know it's a lie, and you don't actually know what his statement means or doesn't mean. And you're not a brain surgeon.

shut up bitchtits

>>18308447
You just don’t understand the maturity of facehumping, e-drone

>>18308642
The simple fact that Davedrones actually believe a brain was removed and put back in makes them the kwab of /pw/

>>18308795
You need to prove that Dave knows his statement is false, and that he said it anyway for some malicious purpose. That's what a lie is. You haven't done this, because you can't do it.

>>18308642
>You've posted inaccuracies
Dave posted inaccuracies because he's a hack that gets worked by his "sources"

>>18308709
>when you have to reinvent the definition of what a lie is so can protect your favorite jewish e-celeb

>>18308709
>>18308804
Wow you're really upset about Dave's lies getting exposed

>>18308804
I don't care tranny
We're having too much fun laughing at you simps

>NOOOO BRAINS ARE REMOVED ALL THE TIME IN WRESTLERS
kwab Davedrones are retards

>>18308806
A lie is intentionally not telling the truth. It is knowingly spreading misinformation. Dave never lies. Sometimes he gets things wrong and he corrects the record. Everyone makes mistakes. He never lies.

>>18308821
>Dave never lies.
Be honest anon.
How much money have to donated to Dave?

>>18308830
$0

>>18308832
>he does it for free

>>18308832
>$0
This isn't a lie. The Dave simp simply got it wrong and will correct the record later.

>>18308849
I didn't get anything wrong. I have never given a dime to Meltzer.
>>18308843
Does what?

>>18308855
>I have never given a dime to Meltzer.
Prove it.

>>18307841 (OP)
reminder that Dave has no source for any of his claims that AEW is doing that particularly well, its mostly just xitter ramblings

>>18308872
How?
Why?

>>18308875
>sucks Dave's dick on the internet
>claims he doesn't give him money
>admits he can't prove it
Kek what a Meltzer simp who gives him money

Meltzer repeats shit he hears. The shit he hears is all agenda driven. When WWE or AEW wants a narrative out there, they get Dave (or Sapp) to repeat it. A wrestler will get their narrative out through Meltzer. Meltzer will go beyond wrestling and repeat stuff he hears about wrestler's personal lives. It's no different than TMZ and Hollywood. It's tabloid shit and there's no honor in it. Meltzer is a slimy piece of shit like Harvey Levin.

>>18307841 (OP)
Big Dave slicing and dicing PedoDrones. Fraid so

>>18308890
Who's the liar now?

>>18308899
That's how all journalism works dude

>>18308911
still (You)

>>18307841 (OP)
And Jim Cornette is right once more about dave being a retard sellout selling a product where the retards can't restle on the ring.

Dave is on Tony's pay roll just like he used to be on Vince's and Nu Jamal before. Tony's case is the worst though in a sense that Nu Jamal and Vince do it for business while Tony is just a money mark.

>>18308128
>AI Overview

>>18309077
Gonna cry?

Dave is one of the least credible wrestling "journalists" out there

>>18307841 (OP)
Isn't this guy who said some Japanese wrestler got his brain surgically removed and then put back?

>>18309044
Meds. Now. Fucking schizo.

Remember when attendance and demo were the most important thing ever? me too it was when aew was doing well in those metrics. what a weird coincidence

>>18310138
remember when e-drones said AEW was going out of business? me too, it's been every single day for the last 6 years LMAO

>>18310138
I remember when ratings were relevant back when two shows were going head to head but it hasn't been for a long time. I think something changed.

>>18308223
Lol no way that's real, how he doesn't see it

>>18307957
Dave posts facts but its always a soft landing for AEW "AEW down lowest demo, lowest ratings in years" but the reason is X,Y,Z it's never because of booking or disinterest in the promotion it must always be some uncontrollable outside source never the booking

>>18310155
aew would be out of business if it wasn't being used as a way for Shad Khan to keep his sperg son away from the businesses that actually matter. the money he sinks into aew is eclipsed by the money he saves by keeping Tony in his retard pen

>>18308128
I dont think Ive ever seen an AI overview used as evidence on 4chan. This place is really going down the shitter.

>>18310754
Do you not understand that it's a written summary of other sources?

>>18307841 (OP)
where are the polls being conducted Dave

>>18307959
Don't worry pal, he can lie all day long but the hell wil freeze before they turn a profit. They can't even dream of hitting 800k anymore
AEW is bound to fail, every little shit they do, the lies, the stupid shills. It'll make it so much better, we are talking about a kwab of unprecedented proportions

>>18311018
on his echo chamber message board that is full of the most disgusting smarks on earth

Based, AEW is so great

>>18311112
You don't know that it wasn't planned
You don't know that they didn't change it on the fly
You can't prove that he knew that wasn't true and said it anyway

>>18311112
why does Dave just make shit up

>>18311144
The opposite is also so true, which means Meltzer is not a journalist and is essentially guessing.

>>18311157
>journalists are right 100% of the time
how are drones this fucking stupid

>>18311157
You don't know where his info came from
You don't know if it was a guess

>>18311144
>You don't know that it wasn't planned
neither does Dave
>You don't know that they didn't change it on the fly
neither does Dave
>You can't prove that he knew that wasn't true and said it anyway
not my job. Dave is the one who calls himself a journalist. maybe the should be more responsible.

>>18311146
Because he lost all of his sources within WWE years ago. Two of his main leakers were Chris Jericho and Zack Ryder, and they haven't worked for WWE in years.

>>18311144
Meltzer's been hiding behind the "Plans must have changed" line for decades now. He just guesses and makes shit up based on how he thinks the storyline is going to go and everyone assumes he has insider info. He's no different than the average fan watching at home.

>>18311146
Dave has zero (0) WWE sources, but his business depends on engagement and WWE is the big leagues, so he has to make shit up about it to try and hold on to the last shreds of relevancy that he has

You'll have to forgive the edrones. They thought they won before it came to light that AEW was doing milly after milly. Its like thinking you won a title but it was only a 2 count and then you get pinned because you let your guard down. Theyre having a hard time accepting that they lost and Tony won

>>18311176
In reality, if someone's latest info is X and then later they update it to Y, nobody cares. This is the job of all journalists. Only when it's Dave Meltzer does this become a cardinal sin.

>>18311225
>f someone's latest info is X and then later they update it to Y, nobody cares
no. legitimate reporters and journalists care about their credibility and don't just make shit up, or they try to independently verify sourced information before reporting it. Or, they phrase their reporting as speculation and make sure that everyone knows that's what it is. Dave makes shit up, states it as fact and then says "plans changed" when he's wrong. you're a shoot retard if you believe anything he says.

>>18311254
Proof he made shit up?

>>18311223
kek this is a really good point. everything they believed for the last two years was torn asunder by the MAX numbers. obviously, they don't have the emotional maturity to handle this disappointment so of course they lash out in anger instead.

>>18311261
the burden of proof isn't on me, ya fuckin tard. Dave is the one saying it. All the shit he says turns out to be wrong, so why would you think he's not making it up

>>18311144
You realize that Raquel and Roxanne were on SD and they did Charlotte vs Raquel, right? Which means they had been told days ahead of time they were needed for SD. The report from Meltzer about Flair/Bliss being planned came out hours before SD
They had also been promoting Charlotte vs Raquel for the house shows in Texas this weekend the entire week.
Meltzer flat out made it up based on his own speculation

>>18311225
>someone's latest info is X and then later they update it to Y
That's called lying and trying to cover up the lie when people notice.
>This is the job of all journalists.
Dave isn't a journalist.

>>18311311
If he says something and it turns out not to be true, that doesn't necessarily mean he made it up. It could mean he's gullible and someone had wrong info, or that someone lied to him, or something changed. You're the one saying he's making things up and you don't have any real proof of it. This is why I like to ask Meltzer detractors to really know what makes them tick and they always have fuck all.

Dave Meltzer is a lying fucking retard

>>18311363
No it isn't because if you genuinely believe X is the case then you're not lying when you say X. Lying is knowingly spreading misinformation. Please understand the words you're using before you say them.

>>18311387
nah you are

>>18311353
I don't see how that changes anything or is proof he definitively made something up.

>>18311387
he's jewish so y-y-ou know

Seff made meltzer apologize, capitulate and admit he was a lying little shit

>>18311364
>If he says something and it turns out not to be true, that doesn't necessarily mean he made it up. It could mean he's gullible and someone had wrong info, or that someone lied to him
so he's just a really shitty journalist?
>something changed
kek you fuckin mark

>>18311434
That was a case of someone directly lying to Meltzer to see if he could get him to report it. This is how WWE talent treat Meltzer because they have no respect for truth like he does.

>>18311364
>If he says something and it turns out not to be true, that doesn't necessarily mean he made it up.
You're right. Dave only makes things up 90% of the time. 10% of the time he parrots false info because he's a fraud who doesn't care about verifying anything kek.

>>18311450
Newspapers report corrections literally every single issue. It's extremely common.

I watch on MAX and I never miss a show

>>18311397
Dave doesn't genuinely believe anything he says. He lies, he guesses, he uncritically repeats whatever "sources" tell him because he has no integrity and gives zero fucks about the truth. Wasn't his coverage of Dragongate completely made up? Or was it another promotion?

>>18311466
>Newspapers report corrections literally every single issue
yeah, they report corrections on street names or addresses or mild oversights. newspapers don't straight up report shit as fact, get proven wrong and then make excuses about why they were wrong. a newspaper incorrectly reported that Dewey beat Truman almost 100 years ago and it's still a fuckin meme you dumbshit

>>18311521
I have no idea where this bizarre hostility comes from. Truly. All journalists rely on sources, speculate, get things wrong. Only when it comes to Meltzer do you guys act like he's Satan for doing what every journalist does.

>>18311466
I'm still waiting for Dave's correction on his "they removed Shibata's brain" fairytale.

>>18311533
imagine tuning in to "Wrestling Observer Radio" and think you're getting some sort of gold standard of reporting excellence

E-drones need to be turned into protein goo and fed to cattle

>>18311533
They do. They do corrections on all kinds of stuff all the time. Stop lying. There is nothing singularly egregious about Dave Meltzer. In fact compared to most journalists who are total fucking scum he's actually an above average one.

>>18311557
i like this shape shifting argument where dave Meltzer is an award winning journalist sometimes and other times it's just a podcast bro lol. typical jewery.

>>18311566
This divorced boomer also got his YouTube account hacked by pajeets

I lol at any retard who simps over this grifter

>>18311557
>imagine tuning in to "Wrestling Observer Radio" and think you're getting some sort of gold standard of reporting excellence
tell that to meltzer. he guest lectures at Stanford, you know.
>>18311559
>They do corrections on all kinds of stuff all the time.
yeah, but they don't have to issue corrections on shit that they say is going to happen, and then the exact opposite things happen and they say "plans changed". are you fuckin retarded?
>There is nothing singularly egregious about Dave Meltzer. In fact compared to most journalists who are total fucking scum he's actually an above average one.
sorry you paypig for Dave, ya pathetic fuckin simp.

>>18311538
>you're pointing out that Meltzer is a blatant fraud?
>wow where's this bizarre hostility coming from
You argue like a jew

>>18311577
it's so hypocritical of him that he does acclaimed newsletter reporting and also does a podcast. what an evil man.

>>18311577
He's a reporter who's sources are carnies in the wrestling business. Of course he's going to get things wrong, either because le plans change or because he's getting fed dogshit. Only e-drones seethe about this for some reason, but then again he's made millions and you're watch a show for children.

>>18311597
>acclaimed newsletter reporting
>acclaimed
LMAO by who

>>18311577
>dave meltzer
>award winning journalist
This anon's weight starts with a 4

>>18311617
By me

>>18311596
I wish you guys could just be honest for once in your life. Wrestling fans are genuinely, and I really mean this, genuinely some of the dumbest people on earth.

>>18311597
>acclaimed newsletter reporting
His newsletter isn't good enough to be used as toiletpaper I'm afraid

>>18311607
>Dave doesn't even attempt to verify his stories
>of course he gets things wrong
>stop bully him!
lel
>he's made millions
Has he? How many subscribers does his dirtsheet have?

>>18311607
>he's made millions
Donald Trump has made billions. According to your logic Trump is one of the most successful people alive.

>>18311664
nah that's you

>>18311664
I'm not being dishonest at all. You do, in fact, argue like a jew. And that's a shoot.

>>18311684
I'm arguing like prime Socrates out here. I'm being patient, courteous, asking follow up questions, not putting words in people's mouths, not making outrageous claims, I'm not lying about anything. Genuinely trying to understand why some simple minded fools have such misplaced antipathy for a random wrestling reporter and hearing what people say.

>>18311667
kek you are unhinged
sorry for your pain
>>18311676
what?

>>18311720
forgot pic

blud's been defending dave meltzer's honor for six hours straight

>>18311720
Nah, you're arguing like a jew.

>>18311720
>reporter
Dave isn't a reporter, he's a shyster duping dumb marks like you

>>18311750
A real jew would argue like this >>18311754

>>18311728
>what?
Imagine being so dumb you can't even follow your own argument. Davedrones, amirite?

>>18311766
sorry, we were talking about dave meltzer, not whatever polcuck thing you're about to sperg out about

>>18311804
>making money is all of a sudden no longer a factor of success
I debunked you in less than 3 minutes
KWAB

>>18311822
what the fuck are you talking about? what have you "debunked"?

>>18308388
So because somebody posts something that blows all your bullshit out of the water, instead of any kind of comeback or actually conceding, you go full bitch mode
>OH NICE SPACING, REDDIT, WAAAAAAH
Classic FAGGOT AEWTIST move

>>18311880
Shut up retard

>>18308421
You are straight retarded

JBL was rigjht, WWE should be paying this dude. Not only does he give their show more intrigue by posting shit like Seff's injury being a work, he also makes their competition look like a joke by defending them to the point of delusion. He's such a huge asset for them still.

>>18311962
So WWE are simultaneously outraged at Meltzer getting things wrong, and also deeply proud of intentionally misleading him with false information? Classy stuff

>>18311972
When the fuck were they outraged?

>>18311982
When they forced Meltzer to apologize over Seth giving that speech that never happened that Meltzer only reported because Orton lied to him

>>18312004
forced him how? nobody forced him. dave is just a coward who is desperate to be liked

>>18312032
Seth started cooking him on twitter over it

>>18312004
Nah they were still just fucking with him to kill his credibility. No wonder he has a hate boner for them and overrates their biggest competition to cope.

>>18312052
how is that forcing him to apologize? How could they even force him? He could have said that's what my source said and moved on.

>>18312065
Well you can't complain about Meltzer getting things wrong if you're going out of your way to lie to him
>>18312082
I feel like you're just typing shit to argue because you want to argue. Just shut up.

>>18311223
>>18311264
>WBD already bragged about the NBA doing 48,000 viewers on Max.
>WBD has never bragged about the number of viewers get on Max, even though it is "supposedly" 452,000 more than the NBA
>THAT IS JUST HOW THEIR BUSINESS WORKS DRONIES, BUT TRUST ME ITS MILLIES AND MILLIES!!!

AEWTISTS really do not see any flaw in this logic kek

>>18312052
>Seth tells dave he's wrong
>OMG HES FORCED TO APOLOGIZE
Davedrones really are stupid ass marks

>>18307841 (OP)
haven't read a single post ITT but i guaran DAMN tee the slop consoomers aren't happy about this one

>>18312228
accurate

>>18312202
It's just literally what happened lol. what are you even contesting? You know you don't have to disagree with everything I post right

>>18312090
Why can't you answer the question? How can WWE force Dave to apologize?

>>18312260
Seth cooked him on Twitter
They also did the same thing to him over the Peyton Royce thing too

>>18311759
sorry you're seething because it's true

>>18312427
All I can say is that you must have met some very charming, sophisticated, compelling and highly persuasive jews, which I find hard to believe

shut up hogwheels

>>18311112
KWAB

>>18308973
>And Jim Cornette is righ-
Stopped reading there, cuckmark.

>>18310138
Metrics change just like how you changed your gender, fed tranny.

POST THE POLLS DAVE YOU FUCKIN LIAR

This is a long thread for discussing stuff like max viewers that can't really be proven either way

>>18310700
KIDBLT

>>18313702
What can be proven is that Dave Meltxir is a certified bitch boy and that’s that on that

>>18307841 (OP)
>then were never going to make money

Dynamite's debut on Max only got 17k. No way they're getting 500k now

>>18307882
Kek this tranny seething

>>18307991
>every single anon posting a meme is 1 guy

Bitchtits level IQ

>>18313186
rather be that who is always right than a sellout

>>18315888
Cucknette is the latter and never the former.

>>18314226
You're his bitch lmao

>>18316168
Sorry faggot but that anon's trips of truth proved him right, and ur a fag who sucks on dave's microcock