Thread 18341999

and it ain't even close. cry about it, smark FAGGOTS.

>>18341999 (OP)
Post it, faggot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRg_vJvyMC8

>>18341999 (OP)
>>18342045
Zoomie here, never watched it before, but I will do it today to honor the goat HH

>>18342083
>never watched it before
I'm shoot jealous that you get to watch it for the first time

This thread is now about posting essential Hogankino.
https://youtu.be/MEuQRggqU7A?t=151

>>18341999 (OP)
I will take the nastiest diarrhea shit possible on his grave

>>18342045
>When the match is so entertaining the crowd just decides the heel/face part goes out the window

>>18342083
Here you go. Hogan beating Inoki to win the founding lineage of the IWGP. It's essential Hogancore.
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9kwae4

>>18342045
looks phoney and not like a real fight

>>18342298
nigga you don't have the core strength to squat

>>18341999 (OP)
OP here: forgot to post the match
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhS4ZDnRqJQ

>>18342083
Based

He really was the GOAT

HEAVEN IS ABOUT TO FINALLY DRAW DIMES FOR THE FIRST TIME

>>18342045
fuck bros that match is so fuckin good

>>18342874
Next time you hear thunder thats just Hogan bodyslamming Andre.

>>18342874
it'll be funny when these redditors celebrating the hulkster dying breathe their last breaths and realize that they're looking up at Hulk from hell with their leftist faggot heroes

>>18343031
90000 screaming Hulkamaniacs in the HeavenDome baby

>>18342672
yup

>>18342045
Never watched it and never will

>>18341999 (OP)
>>18341999 (OP)
>Two actual CHARACTERS, not shopping mall employees in briefs
>Their aura is so powerful entire arenas are entertained just by them standing there
>the match feels big time organically, not because hipsters count how many flips they did in the past and calculated how technical they are
>just two cool guys doing storytelling in the ring

AEW can't do that.
Current WWE can't do that.
Rock vs Hogan Wrestlemania is the greatest pro wrestling match of all time and nothing you say can refute that fact.

>>18341999 (OP)
I still say it's a tie between this and the Andre match. The crowds were different right? WM3 had more people that still thought it was on the up and up. The Rock match wrre marks that grew up, then muh, childhood hit

>>18343318
>HeavenDome

Based beyond belief

>>18343491
Agreed

>>18343485
too bad. Hogan draws more times and is more entertaining by just flexing his muscles than every aew wrestler put together and multiplied by 100 ever has or will be

>>18342045
literally miles better than anything aew has ever done

>>18342083
Enjoy zoombro

>>18341999 (OP)
Hogan Vs Savage was better.
>>18342426
This is something a lot of people don't know, Hulk Hogan was the first IWGP champion.

>>18342083
based zoomie

>>18343675
What did he draw for TNA? He's an 80s merchant.

>>18343199
amen brother

>>18344678
nigga you dumb

>>18342428
That's 99% of wrestling matches if we're being honest with ourselves

>>18342428
but enough about aew

>>18343485
You divisive chud

>>18342045
so fuckin based. why can't wrestling companies make kino like this anymore

>>18341999 (OP)
SLAM 'EM, HULKSTER!

>>18341999 (OP)
im a smark and shoot love this match

I just watched it, start to finish. It kind of sucks ass, except for the small 30 second bit of Hogan kicking out and Hulking up. Everything else is pretty terrible, and I'm not even a guy into gymnastics shit

>>18345281
because the marks are in the ring now, and it's not an insult or speaking figuratively, the marks are truly in the ring now
The marks have also changed too, edgy young masculinity is seen as a bad thing and the onions have driven previous fans away

>>18345281
No stars

also this >>18345605

>>18345549
You're retarded though.

>>18345629
Maybe but maybe monarch was this hulkmania and ozzy osbourne

>>18341999 (OP)
Mega face, ultra mega heel, no one comes close

>>18342428
So wrestling

>>18345549
nigga you dumb

>>18341999 (OP)
I saw it live, fellas.

>>18346642
holy based, you better not be working me

>>18346705
nope not a work. you can see me and my brother a bunch during this match, marking out for the hulkster. we helped bring back Hulkamania, brother.

>>18342045
holy FUCK I love this match so much

>>18341999 (OP)
this isn't Hulk vs Andre though

>>18341999 (OP)
There are about 30 Mitsuhara Misawa matches alone which blow this turd match out of the water.

>>18346727
Kek he jobbed the the title to Haitch a month later after his nostalgia run flopped, then tapped out like a bitch to Kurt Angle and got mogged by Lesnar. Good job humiliating the old geezer on the way out.

>>18347901
that match was also gigabased. 93,000 screaming hulkamaniacs watching the hulkster bodyslam that big stinky giant.

>>18341999 (OP)
I'm so glad he died,
Now I can collect my $2000 bet

>>18342083
This wasn't a great match by modern standards. If you're used to watching Okada, Ospreay, Sabre, you'll find this quite paint-by-numbers. To appreciate it you have to realise these were the biggest names of their generation (you could argue Austin too, but I think this match made more sense). It was something that hadn't happened before.

>>18342045
brought tears to my eyes. wrestling will never be this fucking great again. GOAT. what a match man. not the first time i've watched it and won't be the last.

>>18342426
How come today's NJPW fans don't throw streamers at wrestlers? Did they forbid it or did the tradition just di

>>18347941
I rented WM3 VHS so many times as a young lad I can't believe Dave Meltzer gave it -5 stars
but now every other shitter has a 5 star match weekly that is immediately forgotten

>>18341999 (OP)
Checked. Saw this live with my dad. First live wrestling event I had ever been to. It was a great night.

>>18348265
Because it just isn't that exciting any more. Hell you can watch the Chono/Onita match and see the audience losing their minds from entrance to bell. Nothing like the modern day where they just sit passively in their seats and clap.

>>18348162
>Okada, Ospreay, Sabre
even in their wildest dreams, these literallywho shitters could never pull off what the hulkster pulled off that night.

>>18342045
Nothing really comes close desu. This is pure professional wrestling in all of its essence.

>>18347933
thanks for the history lesson ya fuckin dork but the fact is nobody other than fat virgins like you remembers any of that but everyone remembers Rock vs Hogan.
>>18348295
based

even jim cornette did a commentary watch of this match and said how great this match was.

>>18341999 (OP)
>>18342045
Overrated. This smark crowd wasn’t as hot as people say it was

>>18341999 (OP)
I just watched it for the first time ever. Hogan's ring psychology was an easy 10.

>>18342426
This right here.

>>18341999 (OP)
Not even gonna deny it. It was the two biggest stars in pro wrestling history having a great match that they called in the ring the old school way. Insanely hot crowd too. GOAT comment team calling it. We didn't know how lucky we were.
>>18348453
Ok thx for sharing anon kys.

>>18348453
nigga you dumb

>>18348186
He looks like a smart dude, probably a mathematician like Herb Kunze, so he knows Hogan can't work his way out of a paper bag

>>18348623
>watch Rock vs Hogan
>say that Hogan can't work
maybe you don't know what these words that you're using actually mean, anon

fuckin love this match

>>18348162
What a dork.

>>18348162
austin vs hogan was panned first, but they had heat and couldn't work together

https://youtu.be/Rgf0WQf7pcw?si=_qw4BzqPbRh9Rupw&t=66

I think the match would have been different, i think austin wouldn't get the same crowd treatment rock got

His matches with HHH are very underrated too especially the one they had on smack. His last run was surprisingly good.

>>18342125
I ain't gonna let some greenhorn work me. Gotta be honest though, I wish I could recapture that moment in time and lock it in the Figure Four. What a night.

>>18348290
Who cares what UNCA DAVE has to say. That Jabron thinks he's Roger Ebert. Who put him in charge?

I thought Hulk was going to live forever, I really did. This is an unbelievable loss.

>>18342045
Hogan hulking up in that match still gives me chills. modern wrestling can never be like this. RIP legend.

>>18350720
Austin vs Hogan in 1998 would had drawn dimes to oblivion, but by the time of WM X8 austin's body was giving up on him due to stress, and Hogan wasn't in full shape due to WCW's shenanigans and staying 1 year at home due to the AOL contract
Both knew they would work into a shoot, and even Austin would go through the emotional rollercoaster HBK went during flair's retirement match, and not even hogan's politics would save him either and deliver a terrible and sour result.

Austin put over The Rock because not only it was the safest choice seeing that Austin got heat during the invasion, but mainly because Hogan would return as a face, and Dwayne was willing to help him, Austin on the other hand, managed to help Scott Hall, through scott himself began having problems again, and the flight of hell was the last straw.
Hogan ended up being the last WWF champion, and also the first True WWE champion.

>receives a 5 minute long gigapop simply for existing in you're path
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4kojtr_OQQ

>>18350866
we let these fuckin faggots drag his name for the last five years too brother. forgive me Hulkster.

>>18342045
>HE BEAT ANDRE THE GIANT WITH THAT MOVE
KINO

>>18342083
well what the fuck you dumb zoomer where's the fuckin update

>you will never be the plucky babyface who gets beaten down by the foreign heels only for Hogan to come out and save you
>with Hogan's help you route the foreigners with your signature move, followed lf course by a host slam and the atomic leg
>as the heels flee Hogan brandishes an American flag
>and then as Real American plays he raises your arm up and invites you for a seven minute posedown in the ring
Its all I ever wanted to do...

I didn't realize how good this match was until rewatching it

>>18350970
it'll never happen again. nobody will ever be that over ever again.

>>18342045
The fans, whose apathy turned Hogan heel years ago, finally turned him face again mid-match as represented by the hulk up spot. 1000 visual pleas could never top an actual good in-ring story.

>>18351014
facts

It's up there, it's pretty fucking good, but my vote goes to Hart vs Piper, Wrestlemania XIII.

>>18342045
this is why we laugh at you aewtists with your retarded indy garbage wrestling. you fuckin idiots will call some match the greatest thing in the history of the world, your God meltzer will give it twenty stars or whatever and then a week later, nobody even remembers it happened.

Here we are 25 years later and people are still talking about Rock vs Hogan. People still remember Hogan vs Andre, Hogan vs Savage, Hogan vs Sting, Hogan vs Goldberg.

That's a mother fuckin GOAT pro wrestler. You stupid fuckin marks don't even know what good pro wrestling is.

RIP GOAT

>>18351182
TRVTH NVKE

watched it with the sound off, workrate wasn't even good. I give it 3.5 stars

>>18351240
but enough about your mom and dads sextape

>>18351182
based.

>>18342045
fuck bros I just can't believe he's really gone

>>18342045
wwetty slop...KWAPC

>>18341999 (OP)
Proud smark here...
I absolutely agree. 100%. Wrestling is aura and nothing I've ever seen comes even close to this match, and I've been watching since '99.

>>18351182
lose weight bitchtits faggot

>>18342428
Dang, I can't believe it looks like a wrestling match

>>18351182
You're 48 years old Timmy. Isn't it time to grow up? Maybe get a job and think about finding a place of your own to live?

>>18351464
>>18351476
>aewtist faggot triggered by the truth
grim

>>18342045
this is the Codester's favorite match btw

>>18350890
Austin was seething because Hogan came back and pushed him down to midcard.

>>18342426
Best part about this was it wasn't supposed to happen but they had to call an emergency audible after based Hulkster literally killed Inoki and they had to inject him with adrenaline to restart his heart.

>>18342045
Hulkster did everything for the business and then roody poo Rock can’t even show up to wrestlemania

>>18351745
>a man that partied in the 80s and roided for decades falling to cardiac arrest in his 70s is suspicious

>>18341999 (OP)
>greatest match ever
>involves an attitude era scrub that would have been a jobber in the 80's Golden Era

>>18341999 (OP)
>>18342045
>DUDE LE AUDIENCE STARTED BOOING THE FACE AND CHEERING FOR THE HEEL

Okay...?

>>18341999 (OP)
I don't even watch wrestling but I really liked Hogan vs Vince. Felt like an ultimate match between ultimate rivals

>>18351476
>>18351464
You having a wheely good time looking at our posts? Stop hogging the limelight

>>18348453
> wasn’t as hot as people say it was
>Hogan merely pushes the rock over after a lockup
>massive pop
go do some more backflips in your wheelchair

sad that his last wrestling appearance was met with boos and the real kind of boos kek compare it to Ozzy

>>18351804
Honestly my favorite match either one was in, surprisingly good and Piper returning was a great moment even if it didn't amount to much

>>18341999 (OP)
Although people moaned about it at the time, I think him being Hollywood for this enhanced it. I can't see the red and yellow in this match.

>>18351894
>booed in california aka libtard central by a bunch of Xhitter-dwelling lefty smarks who bought tickets with their welfare check
ok bro

>>18341999 (OP)
This is what I call a "get in the living room" match that back in the day would get the normies playing rummy in the kitchen or the kids out of the bedrooms playing their nintendos to watch the match because the names alone told you it was going to be mega-hype.

>>18351909
I'm not talking about states or mutt politics though directionbro

>>18351909
That's interesting. Can you explain his reaction ay Wrestlemania 37?

>>18351926
Because WWE were stupid enough to put him with Titus and try and force something that was unnatural + Tampa is a blue shithole.

>>18351954
>>18351926
>inb4 b-but 2020
here's 2024 HoR.
Tampa has a very liberal core

>>18351954
>W-well you see if he appeared at the Cletusburg Municipal Armory in front of 300 hicks with an average of a fifth grade reading level he'd be cheered!

>>18351968
>>W-well you see if he appeared at the Cletusburg Municipal Armory in front of 300 hicks with an average of a fifth grade reading level he'd be cheered!
I accept your concession and congratulations on revealing yourself as one of these welfare recipients.

>>18351980
>one of these welfare recipients.
I'm not from a rural red state nothing town like Cletusburg where the welfare queens live.

>>18351954
interesting, why are all the places I've heard of or seen before blue while all the other random stuff red?

>>18351986
>t. inner city chicongo

>>18351991
Because the media you consume (MSM) has a left-wing bias.

>>18351993
But enough about your mom's boyfriend.

>>18352008
>immediately thinks of cuckoldry
yep. low-income low-intelligence liberal welfare recipient

>>18350942
JR is an underrated part of this amazing match.

>>18352017
>cuckoldry
You're fucking your own mom, Cletus?

>>18352003
FOX is part of the most mainstream news umbrella in the world. You're no minority. You're no victim. You're no underdog.

>>18341999 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RimQMJ5Mw50

>this was supposed to be Austin/Hogan
>Austin was in full retard mode
>he had a forgettable match with a drunk Scott Hall
>Rock/Hogan became not just one of the best WM matches, not just a great WM moment, but one of the all time greatest things in all of wrestling.

>>18342426
i'm not very familiar with nooj can someone help me out and explain the hebbyQ lineages to me?
hogan is not listed in the lineage here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IWGP_Heavyweight_Championship
but he is listed as the inaugural champion of an earlier version of the hebbyQ... which seems to have been called the exact same thing and came right before the main hebbyQ without a significant length of time between them so idk why they aren't considered one line.
then there's the IGF hebbyQ that angle had but that was like a different belt because brock wouldn't bring the real one back right? but they got unified later so would you count kurt as a hebbyQ holder?
then they merged the hebbyQ with some other belt and it like destroyed the lineage and everyone hates the new belt? why not just continue the main line? like what WWE did when roman or cody unified the WWE and universal titles.
maybe this would be better suited to the njpw general but i figure i should ask here while the topic of the IWGP lineage is discussed.

no 5 stars for either

Bret Hart said he was overrated as a wresler

>>18350951
i loved it. every time i watch old matches i wish i was born earlier to enjoy it live. everything about it was so much better than modern slop

Bret Hart said he was overrated as a wrestler fuck him he killed WCW im glad he is dead

>>18342045
>HH takes like 7 bumps
>crowd is on fire
Workrate bros, our response?

>>18353264
it's because Hogan knows how to actually work and all of these retards today don't

– The Rock v. Hulk Hogan. I get the feeling that this is one of those matches that’s gonna earn me hate mail no matter which side of the fence I go with. I also would’ve thought that this would go on last, since it was being promoted as the main event and all. Hogan gets a MONSTER pop, as I once again worry about the future of mankind. Rock gets a big heel pop. Hogan wins a lockup and the crowd ROARS. JR interprets this as a “mixed reaction”. I’d hate to hear what they’d sound like if they were booing Rock, then. Hogan pounds away and gets a clothesline, but Rock back with the forearm and gets roasted by the crowd. This is just vicious. Shoving match and Rock slugs Hogan down and out. Back in, Rock with the lariat, but Rock Bottom is blocked. Hogan gets the elbowdrops. That limp is getting really pronounced on Hogan’s part. Backdrop suplex gets two. Abdominal stretch rollup gets two. Man, that was his rear special in WCW v. nWo World Tour, but that’s the first time I’ve seen him use it in real life in like the past 20 years. Hogan goes to the BACKRAKES OF DOOM (which Rock sells like he’s being clawed by the fingernails of a Sinanju Master) and of course the crowd eats it all up. Rock chops him, but Hogan chokes him out for a while. Rock gets tossed and Hogan beats on him outside. Table is prepped but goes unused. Back in, ref bumped, and Rock gets a spinebuster and Sharpshooter, no ref, but a big heel reaction. Jesus, Toronto, just because the Leafs suck, don’t take it out on someone who CAN win the big one. The crowd just completely turns on Rock, so Hogan goes low and gets a huge face pop and then uses his own Rock Bottom for two. Hogan uses the belt, but Rock DDTs him and fires right back. JR is still insisting that the reaction is mixed. Stuff like that makes him sound like Tony Schiavone.

>>18353400
Hulk Up time. It’s so sad to see Hogan out there at 75 years old acting like his act means anything but nostalgia. Big boot and STINKY WART-INFESTED GIANT-KILLING LEGDROP OF DOOM, but Rock kicks out at two. Big boot again, but the legdrop misses. Rock gives him two Rock Bottoms for good measure, and finishes with the People’s Elbow at 16:22. That was one of the best-booked bad matches I’ve seen – I’ve gotta admit, even I was cheering pretty vociferously for Rock (more than usual) by the end and getting into it. The match itself, as a match, was spectacularly horrible, but the booking was good and both guys were jazzed to be out there, so call it **. And before all the Hulkamorons start writing in and whining about how it was a **** match because they were so entertained by it, try going back and watching Hogan-Warrior from 1990, which was a similarly-structured match and not only featured a better storyline, but also had some psychology in it and more credible offense. They did everything they could here to polish the proverbial turd, but Hogan’s backrakes and choking are just not going to provide me with entertainment after months of Angle & Austin suplexing the shit out of each other.

>>18353400
>>18353409
Scott Keith is a big fat faggot anon.

>>18351641
oh fuck really? I thought it was a work the entire time I watched kek. I remember thinking “man what a weird finish but I guess Japan likes to keep it realistic”

they had the perfect ending RIGHT THERE and they blew it.
rock winning is so underwhelming and disheartening. people don't admit it bc it was still a great match before that but that ending sucks.
would've been the greatest moment ever if Hulk won. instead it's just one of the greatest moments.

Fags

>>18353724
The older one is supposed to pass the torch in a passing the torch match.

>>18353724
Rock won the match is the right call, Hogan said it as much.

>>18353754
turn your monitor on

>>18342045
Could modern wrestlers pull off and on-the-fly turn like this? Would they even be allowed? Like come SumnerSlam, the crowd is going nuts for Cena and booing Cody. Would they just say fuck it and change the entire match?

>>18341999 (OP)
WM 6 with Warrior was better than 18, bigger feel too

>>18354067
no. it's one of the many reasons why Hogan was the GOAT.

>>18351636
And yet later we learn that Austin wasn't seething at all, his entire damn body was at the verge of collapsing, and you can blame owen hart for this, who also almost crippled dan severn that stupid unsafe fuck.

>>18353567
I guess now we will never fully know

>>18341999 (OP)
>>18342045
and meltzetty only gave in 3 stars

>>18341999 (OP)
It's the greatest wrestling match ever and an amazing filter to see who actually understands wrestling and who is an AEW fan

>>18354439
kek I’m a moron.

>>18345549
imagine being this retarded and then wanting other people to know you are this retarded by posting.

>>18346642
could you feel the electricity

>>18353452
>botches and terrible psychology are good when it's my childhood hero
grow up faggot

>>18348453
imagine not even understanding wrestling and then spending your time posting on a wrestling board.

It's just colours on the screen for you, isn't it?

>>18351106
there are goat matches, but this is the top tier, a different tier entirely because of the auras and energy.

>>18351182
exactly, they don't even know the art of the thing, they dont get it, spiritually.

>>18341999 (OP)
Just watched this again and felt so much energy i just made my wife pregnant again for the 4th time. BASED HLKSTER! WE WILL MISS YOU GOAT

>>18351794
>Dude, the Sistine Chapel ceiling is just paint?

>>18353386
The marks in the ring today can't get over even when they sawdust their necks

>>18354067
Current day wrestlers wouldn't know what to do if the crowd reaction was the opposite of what they planned

>>18355252
>Crowd turns Hogan face
>He continues doing all his heel spots
This particular match is everything /pw/ has shit on for years - two guys just going out and doing the pre-planned match instead of adjusting to the crowd

>>18355333
Rock adjusted, he started acting like a heel.

>>18355343
>he started acting like a heel
No he doesn't

>>18355333
how stupid are you?

>>18355432
You gonna cry all day or do you have an actual rebuttal besides muh childhood?

>>18355469
sorry ur so stupid :(

>>18355513
I accept your concession

>>18355539
>Hogan still acted like a heel all match!
>Hogan always hulked up as a heel!
nigga you retarded

>>18355333
Hogan always wrestled as a heel, the fans just loved him for it. Same thing with Austin.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAmzvTbqFDM
Opens the match cheating by choking Sheik with his own robe, does multiple blatant chokes, spits on him, backracks, all of it

>>18355278
Who dis

>>18355333
>>18355357
I don’t why you’re the only one to point this out, I always thought the dynamic was stupid. A great crowd and two great wrestlers with unbelievable aura undoubtedly but I could never get over that part

>>18342045
You can probably count genuinely perfect matches in the history of wrestling on one hand, maybe two.
This is one of them.

>>18355546
That's why it makes no sense,you dumb fuck.
>Hogan spends the whole match working heel while Rock fights from underneath.
>Rock gets the abdominal stretch spot for sympathy.
>Hogan ignores the ref and keeps doing back rakes
>Hogan whips him with the weight belt.
>They never even do the 'arm drops to 2' spot, because that's how Hogan as a face would actually be booked.
>Instead he just Hulked up like a good guy out of nowhere because it's a fan-service spot at the very end of the match.
And throughout all this they're botching shit everywhere and moving in slow motion. Match is trash

>>18355555
Sheik was the biggest heel in the territory. Rock went into this match as a face with Hogan as the heel literally trying to murder him with a truck, you retard

>>18343491
It's the only match I can watch over and over again and never get tired of it

>>18355590
Yeah, and then during the match the fans love and support turned Hogan and brought out the good in him signified by him feeding off of them and Hulking up for the first time in almost 10 years. You literally can't understand the most basic face turn story there is

>>18355604
>the fans love and support turned Hogan and brought out the good in him signified by him feeding off of them
Brother, this is the literal definition of headcanon.

>>18355612
Are you blind and deaf as well as being dumb?

>>18355622
Are you ten years old?

>>18355622
weird how the crowd did this at the beginning of the match but Hogan still wrestled like a dick for 15 minutes

>>18355650
Like at the beginning of the match where he won two strength tests and posed and then played to the crowd after each one?

>>18355654
>Hogan never posed as a heel
zoom zoom zoom

>>18355667
You're extremely bad at this.

>>18355677
not as bad as Hogan and Rock at telling a story

>>18355677
still waiting to hear when Rock turned heel in the match, was that you or another anon?

>>18355582
trvth nvke

>>18341999 (OP)
never seen a match like this before or since. haven't watched it in a while. never thought about what the best match ever is, but it's this or austin versus hart.

>>18342298
you are a loser and will die alone. hogan was a way better dude than you lol.

>>18352515
the original used to get defended ONLY against the winner of an annual tournament (against the prior winner, who would get the belt) inoki defended it twice, dropped it to compete in the tournament and then won it again lol
for the purposes of being correct it was technically a different belt and as such wouldn't count towards later versions