Thread 18384491

Highlights:
>AEW, along with countless WBD properties, will be greatly affected by the WBD split.
>“You don’t know what’s good or bad,” said Dave Meltzer on “Wrestling Observer Radio,” in a vague—if not obvious—outlook. Meltzer, who has had his own issues with AEW numbers, was inclined to believe AEW adds an additional 500,000 viewers on Max. These estimates came from a NOW DUBIOUS report from BJ Bethel of SEScoops
>While nobody knows what the actual numbers are, Zaslav’s comments on Monday’s investor call seemed to throw cold water on AEW’s viewership on Max being significant.
>“Inside the U.S., sports has been less critical,” said Zaslav. “It’s viewed, but it hasn’t been a real driver for us.”
>Zaslav went on to note that HBO Max viewership accounts for for 25% of programming spun off from the WBD networks. This means AEW, which is not part of TNT Sports though is currently listed on Max’s sports page, would fall WELL BELOW below the 500,000 additional viewers on Max.
>“If AEW is doing really good in late 2026, I think they’re pretty safe. If [AEW] is doing bad, it wouldn’t be good,” said Meltzer, once again stating the obvious. “It could be great, depending on different factors. It could be terrible, depending on different factors,” said an increasingly vague Meltzer.

IT'S OVER

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alfredkonuwa/2025/06/10/wbd-split-will-affect-aew-but-nobody-knows-how/

>>18384491 (OP)
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>18384491 (OP)
The WBD split is expected to have a minimal impact on AEW. AEW's current contract with WBD, which includes TV deals with TBS and TNT, and streaming on Max, is set to remain in place until 2028. AEW's shows will continue to air as planned, and there are no immediate changes planned for AEW's media rights. The split is anticipated to take effect by mid-2026, and AEW remains a priority for WBD, indicating that the promotion will not lose any of its TV deals with WBD.

>Alfred Konuwa
shift + click

>>18384491 (OP)
>If [AEW] is doing bad, it wouldn’t be good,”
Won't be good confirmed

>>18384491 (OP)
>cant even get 1,000 people to attend live
>but somehow 500,000 people are watching on some obscure internet channel

>>18384491 (OP)
meltzer LIED? WHAT!?

>>18384503
How strange. I can't seem to find a source for that. You wouldn't be making it up, would you?

HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAH I LOVE LAUGHING AT AEW

>“If AEW is doing really good in late 2026, I think they’re pretty safe. If [AEW] is doing bad, it wouldn’t be good
>It could be great, depending on different factors. It could be terrible, depending on different factors
There are actually people who pay this retarded, jesus christ

>>18384568
Your syntax says you're below 85 IQ.

>>18384503
>>18384615
Figwheels already squealing.

>>18384491 (OP)
MASSAH, I SHO DID POSTED IT, I SAYED DAT AEW GONE DIE JUSS LIKE YOU ASKEDED

>>18384491 (OP)
>ham and cheese nigger
No thanks

>>18384615
what kinda geek says syntax lmao do you say that irl?

>>18384615
Your IQ says you're below 85 IQ.

>>18384650
>>18384677
>stooping to racism because you can't find any flaws with Konuwa's journalism
Pathetic

>>18384701
This article has nothing written that we don’t already know.

Aew is signed until warner decides it’s fate in 2027 that’s when it matters. More fear porn from the edrones lol

>>18384718
>Aew is signed until warner decides it’s fate in 2027
WBD can cancel AEW before 2027 if it wants to.

>>18384725
Learn what a contract is pal- wwe was dealt with a similar spilt from Comcast

>>18384491 (OP)
DELET THIS

>>18384491 (OP)
OOO MASSA HUNNA
PLEEZ GIB MOAR CHEEZ

>>18384701
I will accept this if you message that hogan is a chud

>>18384819
Learn that TV industry contracts have out clauses.

>>18384851
Hogan was a chud and that's a good thing BROTHER

>>18384866
You have to massively underperform to get a no fee cut.
Inb4 LoL rAtInGs or some other cope

>>18384491 (OP)
>“It’s viewed, but it hasn’t been a real driver for us.”
This should be printed on AEW business cards, put on shirts, and spammed to Meltzer. It'll be fun seeing how the devout AEWtholics spin this.

>>18384819
Not all contracts are fully guaranteed, in fact 99% of NFL multi-year contracts aren't (notable exception: 1st round draft picks)
Do you really think Tony Khan left money on the table in order to get a fully-guaranteed deal? Or was the aim to get as much money as possible, "prove" AEW can draw high numbers, and if the station cancels (with 3-6+ months notice) go walk right to their competitor with a #1-5 ranked show and mid-teens demo every week
I can't prove anything but I'm certain it's the latter. Tony has enough money to not need guarantees, especially if that guarantee could lead to Dynamite airing at 11pm to get their "full pay"

>>18384875
Nice! Racism is based and that’s why I don’t listen to the salami eating nigger dude!

>>18384880
>I can’t prove anything but it’s definitely this
Vintage /pw/

>>18384882
I really hate how close you little shit-eating faggots are to TPTB who let you get away with this racist dog shit if it means banning everyone you lure into saying the same (or worse)

>>18384896
No idea what this means
Meds now

>>18384891
Feel free to explain what you believe AEW's TV situation is, we both know you won't do it because you're a little cocksucker who can't put together coherent arguments and you know nothing about Contract law

>>18384491 (OP)
>hogwheels crashing out at a journalist for quoting Zaslav
it’s over

>>18384909
You already admitted you have no idea if what your blabbering on about is true or not. Take the L

>>18384905
you're just making yourself look like a bigger faggot every time you reply, keep going

>>18384878
TV shows get canceled whenever a network feels like it. That's how it works lil bro. Whether or not they'd have to pay a fee to AEW is besides the point.

>>18384922
That's what I thought, little faggot. Keep licking Dave's asshole clean because you're too stupid to form your own intelligent guesses about what might or might not be the case

>>18384924
Post 7 examples of a TV show not made by that network getting cancelled for reasons that are not ratings. I’ll wait

>>18384909
>contract law
lnao you live with your mom you dont know shit about tv contracts

>>18384933
>I can’t prove any of this
>it’s true though
Take the L

>>18384939
>I get to add unnecessary caveats heh looks like I win yet again
Faggot behavior

>>18384880
I’m sure Warner is ready to cancel aew as we speak.
Meantime let me
Enjoy the flips and Indy wrestling that’s not your crap shoot wwe crap. If aew dies so let it be. I doubt it but stranger things have happened

>>18384951
I accept your concession

Console wars are the only reason I come to pw. Still Tony. It's unironically over

>>18384952
People here are so mindraped they can't even process what I'm saying, they just go straight to their "fuck edrones" playback
AEW's rights can't be sold to another party, so if WBD can't afford them, they get canceled. Simple as. But that doesn't mean they couldn't immediately go to Paramount or Disney/FX and get paid MORE (not less) than their current deal.

People fucking care more about what /pw/ roasts would look like more than they care about common sense. WWE cut Swerve and now he's a world champion and main event level talent. Shit happens, executives make mistakes, not every firing/cancel/expiration is some humiliating experience that ends careers and businesses.

>>18384939
>for reasons that are not ratings
What are you talking about? When WBD cancels AEW it'll be for low ratings.

>>18384988
All those stations you mentioned are wwe fan Boys the only realistic net would be Amazon streaming for aew

>>18384988
Swerve is a corny nigger thats why the pedofed fired him and now he is HangMaams rival lol

>>18384924
TV contracts for shows are entirely based on performance and what is actively in production. The contracts are set up so that each season there is an out. The contract isn't "ironclad" as the length of it is an agreement based on the assumption that the show performs well and, most importantly, the network it is on believes it should continue. We've seen both sides of this issue. We've seen shows cancelled by a network, only to find a new home for its entire crew on another network (See the "Lucifer" series as one example). We've seen the cast of shows also refuse to continue working unless their contracts are reworked. The main point is that TV contracts cover what is in production. That is the most important thing. Once a season is ordered by a network, a set number of episodes is put into production. That is what the contract covers. The confidence in a show can be reflected in that order, as in ordering 2 seasons of a show instead of just one and then waiting to see the performance. For a live scripted show like AEW that still holds true. WB would order a season's worth of content from X month to X month as a season.That season would be under production and under contract. Anything past that is not guaranteed. Tony can foot the bill for production and film shit anyway and then try to sell it to another platform, but WB would not be beholden by some contract to have to be forced to air or pay for it.

>>18384988
Good post my man

>>18384988
>Simple as. But that doesn't mean they couldn't immediately go to Paramount or Disney/FX and get paid MORE (not less) than their current deal.
>MORE
LOL. I appreciate that you're trying to be reasonable here but AEW has lost so much value that there's no way in hell they'll ever get a better contract than the one they negotiated last year. Imagine Tony going to Paramount or Disney and saying "so yeah our flagship show averages between 500k and 600k viewers and the number won't stop dropping so give us over $185 million dollars per year now please".

>>18385034
Again dude I don’t know what is with wrestling fans but do you honestly believe nobody watches on streaming?

>>18385030
>The confidence in a show can be reflected in that order, as in ordering 2 seasons of a show instead of just one and then waiting to see the performance. For a live scripted show like AEW that still holds true. WB would order a season's worth of content from X month to X month as a season.That season would be under production and under contract. Anything past that is not guaranteed.
I didn't know that. Legitimately insightful and interesting post.

>>18385034
Also they have two shows
Ppvs warner hasn’t given aew the green light for hbo max that’s the only thing that boost this company. If the ppv gets on hbo max or not, without that this company can’t grow

>>18385054
MLS on Apple TV was bragging about getting 120k viewers on average with Pissi.
Tone Dog isnt getting anything near that on Max.

>>18384503
>>18384557
It's an AI generated summary

>>18384988
The problem with AEW shopping itself and getting more than what WB offered is who would be interested? While everyone wants some sort of live sports content, not everyone has a budget to afford it. Amazon, Netflix, and Apple are the biggest players looking for that sort of content and have shelled out to buy it. The issue is those three companies only want major audience driving content. Like how Amazon went for the NBA and NFL games rights, Apple went for MLB and Soccer, and Netflix has gone for the NFL, WWE and is looking to get MLB content as well. Those parties are holding their money for that content and not spending it on anything else. At least not spending more than what WB spent on AEW. Smaller platforms are available but that is why Tony really swung and missed with CW. That NXT money could have been secured for at least one of his shows. Instead he wanted to show allegiance to WB, which made sense since he had a personal relationship with the guy running it. Not diversifying his contracts and content over multiple platforms though has hurt him, because major players will not offer more than WB did, if anything at all, and the smaller platforms will for sure not spend more than WB while also being a smaller potential audience and a perception that AEW is on a smaller network.

>>18385083
Okay lmao
I’m sure only 10 ppl watch on hbo max

>>18385093
It’s 500 thousand actually

>>18385054
The NBA's all time highest streaming number on Max was under 50k.

>>18385093
Might as well otherwise Tone Doge would be spamming a chart on twitter like he already did over the plummeting 18-49 demo. Ruthtless ways kek

>>18385098
it's 50 thousand at most

>>18385054
It’s not that nobody watches on streaming, it’s that the number is likely not significant enough to take into serious consideration

>>18385104
You wwe fans are true clowns lol

Bjs report never mentioned live viewers he mentioned specifically overall viewers. Streaming is like YouTube per view is what they look at.

One more things so you clowns admit they are now hitting 50k is that the final number you clowns came up with in your discord for your argument lol

>>18385130
Do Max cucks really pay to watch ads like on jewtube? What a mess.

>>18385093
It's not 10 people but what do you think is a number that would be worth investment for WB. It has lost the rights to the NBA, and even its highly rated NBA pre and post game show is now being split with ESPN. That was a major blow. Why does that matter? Because live sports n a platform is looked at as a bundle to create cross exposure and improve overall viewership. Losing something like the NBA diminishes the prospective total audience for all of a platform's live sports content. It's the reason why shows a platform is trying to set for success are given lead ins by big nationally televised games. A big prime time NFL game will often as the lead in for a new show they want to highlight. Likewise, a big NBA game can act as a lead in for another live sporting event. Right now Max only has F1 racving and a collection of alternative sports like biking and Redbull competitions as well as AEW as its live sports offerings. None of those things has a large following fans. None of them will entice a large number of people to subscribe to that platform to watch them either, which is the whole point of investing in their content.

>>18385130
>>18385138
We’re looking for actual refutations here samefag

>>18385138
No one with two brain cells believes gayew is getting 50k on max. That was what the NBA was getting you fucking weirdo.

>>18385130
Nigga I don't know what point you think you're making but TNT Sports accidentally outed the Max number.

>>18385138
>One more things so you clowns admit they are now hitting 50k
If AEW can't even get 1k people in the audience, why the fuck do you think this is even remotely true?

>>18385138
AEW is doing way, way under 50k on Max.

>>18385161
>>18385159
You proved my point 38 milly subs no no guys only 5k people watch aew lol meanwhile any random clown can just click aew dynamite on Wednesday and guess what that counts as viewer

>>18385159
AEWtists won't like this

>>18385181
>meanwhile any random clown can just click aew dynamite on Wednesday
And yet nobody does

>>18385164
We went through befor with you clowns. Aew lacks marketing in ticket sales they hired Kosha and Jeff Jarrett who don’t know how to market

Aew can easily sell 2500

>>18385181
>source: Grok
Just stop posting bro.

>>18385189
You edrones really lack critical thinking. Can triple h open up a wwe scholarship program for you clowns

>>18385204
>clowns
Get new insults junior

>>18385196
Meanwhile your post is some edrone that you clowns follow in the iwc lol what’s next jd is a source too

Let’s use the same lotif

>>18385193
yet you believe MAX has 500,000 people watching every single week?

>>18385204
Not my fault AEW is a dimeless, faggot promotion that nobody wants to watch

The nba is averaging only 50k on hbo max why are they selling out every arena?

>>18385214
I think you've had a little too much to drink my dude.

>>18385224
AEW is getting 1k viewers on Max just like their Taco Bell "residency" attendees.

>>18384491 (OP)
hmmm sweaty? dave asked a high level mathematician about this, so he knows the truth.

>>18385219
Again edrones. Bj stated the overall viewership. You take tv let’s say 500 and then you add hbo max. But Alfred told me that mr zaslav is not happy lol yeah 500k isn’t good look at raw lol so you guys could just troll that 500k number. Why else you think Netflix is desperate for more eyes and is telling wwe to expose the business in a doc.

However, you guys keep trolling on a lie made up

>>18385248
Lazy ass trolling. Go back to posting gay shit about womens wrestling.

>>18385248
Those aren’t good numbers. Just because you obsessively bring up WWE on every post does not detract from the fact that those are still not good numbers.

>>18385248
>words words words
Do you believe MAX gets 500,000 people watching live or not?
It's a really simple question.

>>18385248
>Why else you think Netflix is desperate for more eyes and is telling wwe to expose the business in a doc.
Netflix ordering more WWE related content is a sign that WWE is doing well and bringing viewers. Netflix is notorious for canceling content because it doesnt meet expectations or shutting down projects that aren’t working. When WB was ordering more content from AEW that was a good sign (more wrestling shows, the reality tv stuff etc). Fans even stated that. But that has gone the other way lately. WB has been cuttign AEW content and has not asked for spinoffs or more adjacent content. That is not a good sign.

>>18385267
>>18385271
Streaming is different. Consider ishowspeed I watch his live for like 10 minutes do I count as a viewer? Also ishowspeed hits about 500k live viewers and overall 5 Milly per video

>>18385278
Aew contract is peanuts compared to wwes and yes maybe your right or wrong nobody know s

>>18385288
You can't compare the content of a Youtube creator to a streaming platform, because on you're paying a premium for and the other is available for free. Getting hits on Youtube content can be beneficial to a fed for exposure, which is why WWE has a machine to do so, but WWE isn't sustaining itself financially through those views like a Youtube creator is. They aren't the same thing. What counts for a 'viewer' to an AEW episode is something WB knows exactly the number of. It does not need Nielsen or some 3rd party to know the number. It can see exactly what each of its subscribers watch and for how long.

>>18385288
>Streaming is different.
I accept your concession

>>18384491 (OP)
>>said Meltzer, once again stating the obvious

>>18385316
And the debate I’m having with these clowns is on bjs report of 500k which I have already stated it’s accurate because it makes perfect sense.

>>18385326
Bayley is the best womens wrestler.

>>18385288
Yep, you’re a dipshit

>>18385335
>>18385341
Seems like I cracked the edrones I’m going to go enjoy a nice blueberry smoothie

>>18385326
>bjs report of 500k which I have already stated it’s accurate because it makes perfect sense

>>18385326
What is the bjs report? I'm not familiar with that. The only way a number would be correct for a show on Max would be if WB shared that info on a conference call, earnings call, stockholder report, or PR release. That doesnt happen often because they dont like sharing info that can affect ad sales. So unless it is an obvious success those numbers are rarely seen. That being said, half a million views for AEW doesnt sound right. Apple TV purchased MLS to add viewers. Each MLS match has been annunced to draw 120k unique viewers. Soccer is not football but it is also not wrestling. I dont think AEW is garnering 4 times the viewers

>>18385326
>bjs report of 500k which I have already stated it’s accurate because it makes perfect sense.
500k can only be accurate if you think AEW has 10 times more Max viewers than the NBA which is something that only a crazy or extremely drunk person could think.

Talking to AEW fans is like talking to actual cultists

>>18385382
Wrestling routinely outdraws hockey in burgerland. Do you really think divegrass is anywhere near that?

>>18385014
The last wrestling to air on Disney, from what I can tell, is AWA on ESPN in the late 80s (then replays on ESPN Classic 20 years later). AEW wouldn't get a deal with the Disney channel, obviously, and probably not ABC or ESPN, but ESPN2, or FX or one of their other networks could be an option.

Amazon would be an intriguing option of AEW wanted to cancel Collision, move to 3-hour Dynamite, and do monthly/bi-monthly Amazon super-shows to go along with their ~10 yearly PPVs. Good place for Toni/Mercedes to main event a commercial free show short of a $50 PPV.

>>18385027
For the purposes of this conversation, Swerve is a draw and main eventer for AEW

>>18385030
I can already tell you AEW fan's argument: AEW contracts are exactly the same terms as WWE, the only thing different is the dollar amount. So if WWE is fully-guaranteed, no exit clauses, then so is AEW. If WWE needs a full year notice before cancellation, then so does AEW. This is insanely unlikely to be the case given the number of WWE partners compared to AEW's 1 individual media partner, however this is what they will argue.

>>18385034
The biggest hurdle for Disney would be agreeing to a TV rating - would Disney+ want AEW at TV14, using words like prick/shit/whore, violence against women? Probably not. Would ESPN+, also no. But for Paramount+ it wouldn't be an issue, and they need content.


>>18385054
A lot more AEW fans would watch on MAX if it were commercial free, but WBD won't agree to that with AEW Plus still floating around. If MAX were the exclusive way to watch AEW without ads, they could make a deal.

>>18385472
>all this effort posting
Grow up, there’s 30 people here and 25 of them are trolls

>>18385472
>Swerve is a draw and main eventer for AEW
Come on spammer that nigger crashes the ratings worse than Moxley.

Anyone ever try to watch AEW on HBO Max? Shit is buried beneath clutter. Point and click adventure trying to watch Dynamite.

>>18385463
>Wrestling routinely outdraws hockey in burgerland. Do you really think divegrass is anywhere near that?
One sport out drawing another is true abut anything. The NFL out draws the NBA, which out draws MLB. That doesnt lend credence to AEW gaining 4-5x times the number of the average MLS game. The amount something is outdrawing is important. MLS is also a major draw for Apple, it actively pushes it as a reason to get the service. AEW is not pushed by WB as a major reason to subscribe to Max. It would be even more incredible for AEW to then draw 4 times more viewers than an MLS game. Apple would probably be asking AEW to create content for it, if that was the case,

>>18385472
>Swerve is a draw and main eventer for AEW

>>18385562
He is dedicated but I can't prove him wrong

>>18385565
Wrestling has much higher ratings then divegrass on TV so it’s obvious it has much higher ratings on streaming.
Very low effort bait but have a you

>>18384880
>I can't prove anything but I'm certain my feelings are right
This board in a nutshell

>>18385610
NTA but I heard American soccer was catching on and I haven't heard shit about AEW except from you guys so I see it being a tempting target for the market which isn't driven by tv ratings
Weird that WWE was ahead of the game with the network when I think about it. Glad they came up with it torrenting shit was a fucking pain

>>18384491 (OP)
CM Punk won

>>18385159
>Retardblade97

>>18385089
I appreciate your comment a lot and I just want to stress, knowing we're right here on /pw/ (huge pop) that this is legitimately high-value discourse and I'm very thankful for it.

On the whole, I agree with you but for one thing in particular, that streaming giants are the only ones bidding for content, when traditional TV still gets roughly 2/3 of ad dollars (roughly $146B in 2024). Disney/ESPN still has a huge footprint on TV, so if they can convince wrestling fans who otherwise wouldn't subscribe to cable without their wrestling show being on a channel, then it has to be done.

The biggest question continues to be, if AEW wasn't on cable, how many subscribers would providers lose (out of AEW's likely well over a million Live plus 7)? If they only lose 100k or so, because the other 900k either watch other shows or ALSO need cable to watch WWE, then likely nothing happens. If it's closer to 300-500k - and cable/satellite providers would be able to prove it by cross-referencing viewers who watch one/other/both/neither - then it could be worth it to keep AEW even as an (on paper) loss-leader. Traditional and Streaming TV these days is all about loyalty, how many loyal fans do you have, how many will travel with you, how do we keep them loyal to both you and to us.

I didn't mean to sound like I was GUARANTEEING AEW would get a better deal if WBD dumped them, I'm just saying, they're unlikely to end up on the Bass Fishing channel at 3am, doing shows out of bowling alleys. Major broadcasting companies out there would offer AEW a replacement deal and it would be for a substantial amount of money.

>>18385741
CM Punk lost

>>18385772
RAW is sold out tonight

>>18385610
>Wrestling has much higher ratings then divegrass on TV
Again generalities apply to everything and nothing at all. We're talking about a particular soccer league, MLS, and a specific wrestling fed, AEW. To say AEW is doing 4-5 times the number that MLS is doing with Apple marketing MLS harder than WB advertises for AEW is not a low bar. If that were the case AEW would be able to shop other shows that were cancelled on WB, onto a platform like Apple and they would be interested. That isn't the case.

>>18385562
I feel bad for this generation of kids who never posted on bulletin boards, who have never seen a [quote][/quote] in their lives. This is standard operating procedure to respond to multiple takes at once.
>words
response
>quote
I agree
>what about thing
Not concerned about thing
There's more to the internet than one-at-a-time Twitter and Instagram discussions

>>18385747
Can you refute his finding regarding Max? Or are you seething because you can't?

>>18385816
He sucked the Saudi blood money dick and bent the knee to Saudi and proved himself a spineless hypocrite and whore for sale.
And didn't even get any extra money for it
KWABOTY '25

>>18385853
>baked into their contracts
He got paid out the ass for that saudi show, and he only cares about money. He doesn't care about being a hypocrite

>>18385766
>doing shows out of bowling alleys
They actually aren't far off

>>18385772
>>18385853

AEW is fucking dead without him, how did he lose exaclty?

>>18385921
>how did he lose exaclty?
look at this broken cuck
lmfao

Hi guys, I'm a morbidly obese smark. When I'm not eating sugary snacks or masturbating, I like to pretend that I know something about TV ratings and entertainment contracts.

>>18385411
There are a lot of troll "AEW fans" who make critiquing or even discussing AEW a chore, and they do it on purpose. Literally they do it to dissuade you from doing anything other than discussing your favorite AEW wrestlers/matches. Discussing booking, ticket sales, revenue, ratings, anything else at all, they will attack you personally because they don't want those things to be discussed in ANY context, not just AEW vs WWE. I wish they would fuck off and let people talk about what they want, but unfortunately most of them have a zero tolerance policy, even if/when you make it clear you're doing so in good faith. They simply don't care.

>>18385500
You're not wrong. My mind is like a prison sometimes, and one of the things I'm incapable of doing is assuming that the average person, wherever I'm at at the time, is unreasonable and a troll. I give the average online person far more leeway than they deserve.

>>18385853
When you see "baked in", what they mean is that they don't sit down and individually negotiate everyone's salary and bonuses to do the Saudi shows. It's a bonus, it's a percentage of salary above the norm, and you either agree to go or you opt out. If you want to make the 120% (or 110%, or whatever) of your contract you can make in a year, you do the Saudi shows. If you're OK with only making 100% of your salary, you skip them.


>>18385900
kek I do wish the Chicago shows were more raucous, they seem to have the same energy as the 4500 fans in a 13k arena. Might as well have had the 4500 ticket sales.

>>18386012
>Hi guys, I worship the TV and people who have college degrees. Everyone who forms their opinions based on primary sources, instead of going to college, is stupid, unlike me.
If you have something you disagree with, you fucking little bitch, then start listing them off one by one. Shitty comments like these are meaningless and disprove nobody.

>>18386214
you have to end your life right now

>>18386268
I agree with your assesment

>>18385098
More like 500

>>18384491 (OP)
>would fall WELL BELOW below the 500,000 additional viewers on Max.
Only truly delusional AEW marks ever believed that 500k extra viewers on Max. It was debunked immediately. Your average NBA game only gets like 20-30k viewers and there's no way AEW is doing significantly better on streaming than the fucking NBA.

>>18384491 (OP)
Still waiting for Alfred to miss

>>18386268
>Guys I did it i said the thing again
>And then like the faggot I am I juggled my other device and agreed with myself
Why should I kill myself, you're the fucking pathetic faggot that signal boosts yourself on /pw/
If I was so lonely I had to agree with myself on /pw/, you'd find me swinging the next morning

>>18384491 (OP)
Is that bad or good?

>>18388803
It could be good depending on different factors and it could be bad depending on different factors. It could also be somewhere between good and bad depending on different factors. That'll be $14.99 please.

>>18388891
>We don't know

>NOW DUBIOUS report from BJ Bethel of SEScoops
What evidence is there that it's dubious?
>“Inside the U.S., sports has been less critical,” said Zaslav. “It’s viewed, but it hasn’t been a real driver for us.”
>AEW, which is not part of TNT Sports
So then that comment is not relevant
>Zaslav went on to note that HBO Max viewership accounts for for 25% of programming spun off from the WBD networks. This means AEW would fall WELL BELOW below the 500,000 additional viewers on Max
This deli meat nigga is just talking out his ass

>>18384534
>obscure internet channel
You're huffing some serious copium

>>18384491 (OP)
>when you've merged so many failing companies together your stream service is called HBO GO MAX NOW

>>18389030
When did you realize you're watching aew with a bunch of subhumans?

>Max has 122.3 million global subscribers as of Q1 2025, with the U.S. accounting for about 50 million (roughly 41%). Estimating conservatively, Brazil and Mexico together account for approximately 20-30% of Max’s global subscribers.

>>18389019
>What evidence is there that it's dubious?
a bunch of schizos screaming on Twitter
That's literally all the "evidence"

>>18389146
Hahahaha a edrone meeting lol

>>18389168
They had these every single night for about 4 days straight afterwards too. They were mentally ruined by a news story about streaming viewership numbers for a pro wrestling company. All of these people need emergency psychiatric intervention. Not even memeing there.
I am almost certain that the rovert chasing poster on this board that people call bitchtits is 1 of these people in both that & this screengrab. when you see what they labelled this edition of their group therapy cope conferences.

>>18389146
>>18389340
pig existence

>>18389146
>>18389340
>>18389359
>>18389168
And you can't disprove their evidence because it's 100% correct. It's based on Nielsen ratings, info directly from TNT Sports, and adding two numbers together. it's literally impossible to refute so you deflect and seethe. AEW does under 48k viewers on Max and that's a proven fact. You can't change reality no matter how much you cry and talk to yourself.

>>18389552
>live sports numbers
>AEW is under live entertainment
pEdrones are stupid

I've never seen AEWtists this scared before

>>18389340
Sup rovert

>>18389570
>the singular AEW fan doesn't understand what I said because I used too many syllables
>formulates a nonsensical response
I've noticed this happens a lot.

>>18384567
fuck off laughanon

>>18384491 (OP)
>Alfred
>"Forbes"
He literally wrote this for free.

>>18389773
>Permanently mindbroken by Konuwa and a couple twitter users
>Will defend AEW until his literal death on a board with 12 active users

>>18384491 (OP)
Alfred is the king of making trannies seethe

>>18390332
Best part is that he gets paid to do it

Bumpuwa for Konuwa

>>18390350
By who? Does he actually work for Forbes?

>>18391426
He's horrible @ being a carnie, that's why he never made it in actual prowrestling

>>18384491 (OP)
Wow

>>18385054
He's right though. If you're truly being reasonable you have to understand that every single metric we are privy to shows AEW in a massive slump, consistently going down in ratings, ticket sales, and hype/excitement. There is literally 0 chance they'd be able to get a better deal than their current one at this point. They'd have to take a worse deal and hopefully build up their brand again to look towards the future. And I say this as someone who doesn't really care for WWE and wants AEW to succeed because monopolies are bad regardless if I prefer one or the other.

>>18384505
This. Even as a WWE fan I can't take anything this guy says seriously

>>18392606
I take everything he says seriously because the Konuwaster never misses. You're just a jealous no-deli-meat-having little BITCH

>>18391387
WWE pays him tens of thousands of dollars worth of charcuterie every year.

>>18392954
Nice. Meanwhile your fatass shills AEW for free

>>18392924
TRUTH
NUKE

Bump

>>18389340
MJ from NJ (a legit schizo Jew) and Switchblade97 both 100% post on this board.

Meltzer has bigger things to worry about right now

>>18384491 (OP)
Bad news just keeps coming for AEW

>>18391387
Yes Konuwa does work for Forbes. Some people try to spread disinformation saying that he doesn't but they have no facts to back it up.

>>18397308
The AEWfags have backed off saying Konuwa doesn't work for Forbes because then they'd be forced to admit that the "sports illustrated" report of BJ Dickhead's fake numbers also doesn't count because it only made the SI contributor website

>>18395555
Like what?

>>18384491 (OP)
Bad news for the trannies

>>18397972
Must be a day ending in y

>>18389030
Lakers/Mavericks drew 2% on MAX compared to its cable audience a few months ago.

>>18384491 (OP)
loool

>>18398739
Grim

No slidey

>>18384503
>AI slop
is this what /pw/ discussion has fallen to?

>>18398739
>2% of the TV equivalent
>Dynamite averages 580-640k ish
>best case: 12800 on Max
>worst case; 11600 on Max
Oh no

Slide status?

>>18384491 (OP)
Damn Dave will hate this!

>>18384491 (OP)
Insider here. WBD regrets picking up AEW for 3 years. Ratings are way below expectations.

>>18384491 (OP)
Meltzer and his double talk nonsense is cringe

>>18402501
Based non insider knows more than the actual insider

Not going to paste my entire fucking study on this here but Max is doing at best 40k. Probably somewhere between 25-35k. I have no idea how they got the 500k number by any method. Maybe 500k people viewed the fucking thumbnail.

>>18400653
And that was for one of the most hyped games in recent NBA regular season memory. Dynamite would be lucky to do 1% of its Nielsen numbers on MAX.

>>18402494
Good thing they already owned a shit ton of equity in the company so they're basically paying themselves with AEW's TV revenue.

>>18403905
Their short Hogan tribute got more YouTube clicks than anything else on that show lmao. AEWtist headcanon is crazy.

>>18403905
They got it because BJ Bethel is a pathetic liar who wanted to feed the Twitter gremlins some red meat
Just announcing a blanket 500k bought AEW another year of "over a million!" before TV inevitably dips below 500k
And even then, the dickhead will just claim that as TV has shrunk, MAX has grown, and it's now 600k per show

Such a transparent, fraudulent little bitch. Zero credibility.

>>18405686
KWAB

>>18405176
Who is BJ bethel?

>>18404715
No wonder Tony did it. He wanted a ratings boost.

Good, the faster AEW gets completely cancelled the faster the AEWtrannies find a rope

>>18407013
They already did which is why ratings keep going down every year.

>>18384491 (OP)
The only reason I wish Rampage was still a thing is because Alfred would post the fast nationals and trannies would seethe.

Unfortunately Rampage was cancelled

>>18384505
>>18392606
Holy samefag

>>18384491 (OP)
WBD wants to get rid of AEW

>>18403905
>no idea how they got the 500k number
"they" didn't get anything, Dave did and he got it by pulling it out if his ass.

>If AEW is doing good in late 2026, I think it would be good.
>If [AEW] is doing bad, it wouldn’t be good.
That'll be $14.99/month, thanks.

>>18410424
AEW has never done good. Always been bad.

>>18384491 (OP)
Wow. Stinky.

>>18385159
Ya just gotta love Switchyblade

Grimoli

>>18384491 (OP)
Why does Alfred make the trannies seethe so much?

>>18384491 (OP)
>“If AEW is doing really good in late 2026, I think they’re pretty safe. If [AEW] is doing bad, it wouldn’t be good,”
>"That'll be 9.99"
Picrel is WON subscribers

>>18384491 (OP)
MELTZER stopped mentioning imaginary "MAX" numbers in his ratings tweet(s)

Looks like another one on his list for KWABOTY - now we just need Meltz to be named as part owner in AEW in that lawsuit

>>18414658
He was just tired. He will bring them up tomorrow morning.

>>18384701
He's a "journalist" in the same way Cornette is a "swinger"

Alfred still making the trannies bubble!

>>18415293
>e-drones caping up for the buck who was considered a joke on B/R over a fucking decade ago

Shouldn't have pissed on the yard of the big dog Tony. Shouldn't have tried to wank dogs either

>>18415388
Mmmm

Still Tony?

Watch him seethe

Bump

>>18384491 (OP)
Everyone in the hogcord has been deployed to slide this and still they can't get rid of it lmao

>>18417081
>Now watch him gape-gape

>>18416257
Afraid so

>>18384491 (OP)
Zaslav is going to get fired (they will just let him step down) and a big reason will be picking up the failing AEW

Nope

Why does he hate this thread so much?

>>18384491 (OP)
cancel this shite

>$14.99 for "if the show is good then its good if the show is bad then thats not good"

People genuinely pay for this?

>>18422803
Not anymore

>>18384491 (OP)
Alfie is the best

>>18422803
They pay for it because they have to know what to think about a certain match.

>>18384491 (OP)
OOF

>>18384491 (OP)
Stinky

>>18384491 (OP)
>If AEW is doing really good in late 2026, I think they’re pretty safe. If [AEW] is doing bad, it wouldn’t be good
Thanks for the insight Dave. If AEW are doing good, it's good. If AEW are doing bad, it's bad. $14.99

>>18384491 (OP)
kekaroo

>>18426412
I said exactly this

>>18421797
You tell me.

>>18384491 (OP)
So even with Max NXT wins? Grim

>>18384491 (OP)
So did Zaslav really confirm it? Or is this just head canon

>>18384491 (OP)
LOL

Another thread he wants gone .

>oinking epiggy's show going so badly they have to dig shit up from last month
go back to listening to yearly financials lmao

>>18433343
ROVERT IS MAD BUT HE WILL BE EVEN MORE MAD AFTER THIS BUMP

>>18434638
Yup

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO AEW is so fucking pathetic. What kind of fucking pathetic faggot even watches it in this day and age

>>18435392
Pretty much only cripples, especially from ireland

>>18384491 (OP)
Doesn't sound good for us tranny sisters

>>18384491 (OP)
Wow

>>18384491 (OP)
I knew it. Thanks Alfred

>>18384491 (OP)
Meltzer btfo

He does not like this thread at all huh?

>>18384491 (OP)
Would be a shame if someone bumped this to make him upset

>>18384491 (OP)
The singular AEW fan hates this

He is enraged

I wonder why he wants this thread gone

>>18384491 (OP)
Zaslav is talking about SPORTS not doing great numbers.

AEW is NOT sports. It just has a sports like presentation.

>>18445536
No it doesn't

Slide status?

>>18384491 (OP)
WBD will cancel AEW. It will be this year

>>18449540
>Year 6 of saying this now

>>18384491 (OP)
What a failure

>>18449550
You've been saying that WWE is going down for decades you fat crippled fuck.

>>18449550
WBD canceled Rampage last year and they're definitely cancelling Collision this year. I wouldn't be surprised if they say "fuck it" and cancel Dynamite too.

>>18450564
Rampage was cancelled?

>>18451616
'Fraid So

>>18384503
Just another Nothingburger

Never seen him this angry before. Big Fred must have pushed him over the edge.

>>18451943
Grim

>>18384491 (OP)
Lol

>>18452411
He's a master when it comes to working the smarks

>>18452880
He never misses

This is a really informative thread

>>18453315
Yup

>>18384962
Feds aren't consoles retard

Meltzer always defending AEW

>>18453899
I hope he gets paid to do it.

>>18384491 (OP)
He hates this!!

>>18453899
It's suspicious

>aew is totally dieing for real this time
I don't even watch it anymore but it's really pathetic you guys do this every week

>>18455734
AEW is already dead.

>>18455734
You are so mad that you sent 10 hours trying to slide this thread and failed lol

>>18384491 (OP)
>“It’s viewed, but it hasn’t been a real driver for us.”


Oh on no. Reddit sistahs, our response?

Hahaha

When this company is finally dead I will laugh for days.

>Not a single person is talking about AEW

Damn you know its bad

>>18458480
BT is

>>18458480
>>18458506
You got the crippled one bubblin in dublin with this one.

>>18384491 (OP)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>18384491 (OP)
KEK WHAT A CANCELLED BITCH

>>18384503
@grok is this true

>>18384505
You obviously clicked and posted in here just to say that you didn't click, when you did

>>18461906
Afraid not

>>18461935
Cook that tranny

>>18384491 (OP)
Very grim indeed

>>18461906
The post that post was responding to had a post number ending in "91". 91 could be referencing the year 1991, which 1992 follows afterwards. 1992 was an interesting year, which included an infamous incident from the professional wrestler, Kevin R. Nash.

To answer your question, yes, Kevin R. Nash was sexually assaulted during the summer months of 1992.

>>18384491 (OP)
RIP to the tranny rodeo

>>18384491 (OP)
Bad news for gAyEW

Very embarrassing for the singular AEW fan

>>18384491 (OP)
Wow

>>18384491 (OP)
>If AEW is doing good, they'll be good. If they're doing bad, it'll be bad.
Wow, thanks jew.

>>18384491 (OP)
Dogshit is being generous

>>18384491 (OP)
KWAB

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>>18468468
nigga you can stop now